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Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by Kpongolo: 1:54pm On Apr 10

Right of children? Hahahahahahahahahah

At least don't teach them Israel is the devil and Islam is the first dictionary

Got it ?

Again

Hahahahahahahahhahahahaha

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Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by TenQ: 1:55pm On Apr 10

BlackfireX:
You should have asked him ....which of the sons?

Allah mixed up alot of things

Dont mind him. They speak from total ignorance and they think it is wisdom!

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Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by TenQ: 1:58pm On Apr 10

BlackfireX:
You dey look for trouble...who go answer you...

Ordinary who wrote the Quran ? No answer
Who pays for your sins? No response
Allah has a colour? No answer
Allah has an Allah? No answer
Who is Allah? No response
Allah committed the 1st shirk? No response
Where is shahada in the quran ? Problem
Quranic miracle? No evidence
Proof that Jesus is a Muslim? Insults
Jesus bow down , to whom his father , is Allah a father? No

Ok let's wait for response
All those who are reporting me and hacking my line... continue

Back to the topic .....

It is generally a big problem in Islam. So many things are imported from Christianity and Judaism without understanding the bases for them.

Till tomorrow, they do not know why
1. Allah made Jesus a co Creator of Life with Allah
2. Why Jesus was born without a father
3. Why Jesus has not died but in paradise with Allah

All they know is that Jesus is a prophet of Islam

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Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by TenQ: 2:00pm On Apr 10

DeepSight:
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So you think it's alright to ask a parent to kill his child?

Answer my questions or admit that you are dumb and ignorant at the same time.

I will like to know
1. What does Sacrifice mean in Islam?
2. Who do you sacrifice to?
3. What is the sacrifice for?
4. Why do you sacrifice Life in Islam?
Four questions: What, Who, Purpose, Why

What is death to you?

To my God, Death is homecoming back to the Source of Life.
If the owner of life recalls you back to Himself, is it barbaric?

Do you think you are also barbaric because you have in your life killed millions?

Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by DeepSight(m): 2:16pm On Apr 10

TenQ:
Answer my questions or admit that you are dumb and ignorant at the same time.

I will like to know
1. What does Sacrifice mean in Islam?
2. Who do you sacrifice to?
3. What is the sacrifice for?
4. Why do you sacrifice Life in Islam?
Four questions: What, Who, Purpose, Why

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I am not Muslim.

What is death to you?

To my God, Death is homecoming back to the Source of Life.
If the owner of life recalls you back to Himself, is it barbaric?

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Natural death is what you can justify in this manner, not one human being asked to kill another. Its even contradictory for God has a command against this, does he not? But aside from this, is it not innately evil to ask a parent to do that to his child?

You know the answer but your bias will not let you admit it.
It is beyond barbaric and shame on anyone who worships a God that asks them to kill their children.

Do you think you are also barbaric because you have in your life killed millions?

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When did I kill millions?

Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by TenQ: 2:20pm On Apr 10

DeepSight:
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I am not Muslim.

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Natural death is what you can justify in this manner, not one human being asked to kill another. Its even contradictory for God has a command against this, does he not? But aside from this, is it not innately evil to ask a parent to do that to his child?

You know the answer but your bias will not let you admit it.
It is beyond barbaric and shame on anyone who worships a God that asks them to kill their children.

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When did I kill millions?

Are you barbaric for eating beef of all types

Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by hakeem77: 2:31pm On Apr 10

May almighty Allah bless you brother for educating us more on our responsibilities as Muslims

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Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by DeepSight(m): 2:37pm On Apr 10

TenQ:
Are you barbaric for eating beef of all types

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1. Who told you I eat beef?

2. Your bible authorises the eating of beef.

3. Even among animals the killing of their own kind is rare.

4. Even among animals the killing of children by parents is an abnormality.

5. Among all creatures there exists a natural instinct of parents to protect their offspring. Why would a loving God give barbaric and evil instructions against that natural instinct.

You know in your heart it is devilish but a lifetime of indoctrination will not allow you to admit it.

I will only leave you with this question, to which I don't expect an honest answer.

Would you kill your child if so commanded?

Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by TenQ: 3:56pm On Apr 10

DeepSight:
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1. Who told you I eat beef?

2. Your bible authorises the eating of beef.

3. Even among animals the killing of their own kind is rare.

4. Even among animals the killing of children by parents is an abnormality.

5. Among all creatures there exists a natural instinct of parents to protect their offspring. Why would a loving God give barbaric and evil instructions against that natural instinct.

You know in your heart it is devilish but a lifetime of indoctrination will not allow you to admit it.

I will only leave you with this question, to which I don't expect an honest answer.

Would you kill your child if so commanded?

Will you answer my direct questions and stop playing the clown!?

Lets assume you dont eat beef (which is most likely a lie).
Lets see how dirty you are:
Do you clean your toilet?
Do you wash and disinfect your toilet?

Let's see how truthful a godless person like you can be!

Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by DeepSight(m): 3:58pm On Apr 10

TenQ:
Will you answer my direct questions and stop playing the clown!?

Lets assume you dont eat beef (which is most likely a lie).
Lets see how dirty you are:
Do you clean your toilet?
Do you wash and disinfect your toilet?

Let's see how truthful a godless person like you can be!

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You are not serious.
Enjoy.

Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by Hussein035: 4:15pm On Apr 10

TenQ:
Answer my questions or admit that you are dumb and ignorant at the same time.

I will like to know
1. What does Sacrifice mean in Islam?
2. Who do you sacrifice to?
3. What is the sacrifice for?
4. Why do you sacrifice Life in Islam?
Four questions: What, Who, Purpose, Why

The answer to this your questions are on this same Google but because you just hate Islam you will not do research

Meanwhile, if Jesus came to die for your sin why was he still begging for help on the cross and still crying 😭 😭 😭

Pls don't bring holy Spirit response here

What is death to you?

To my God, Death is homecoming back to the Source of Life.
If the owner of life recalls you back to Himself, is it barbaric?

Do you think you are also barbaric because you have in your life killed millions?

Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by TenQ: 4:24pm On Apr 10

DeepSight:
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You are not serious.
Enjoy.

Since you cannot answer my questions,
A fool says in his heart that all existence came from NOTHING!

Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by TenQ: 4:24pm On Apr 10

[quote author=Hussein035 post=139056642][/quote]Mr Hussain has no answer!?

Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by DeepSight(m): 4:36pm On Apr 10

TenQ:
Since you cannot answer my questions,
A fool says in his heart that all existence came from NOTHING!

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You are the one who could not address my posers which were too much for you. Thats why you threw a fit.
And no, I dont believe that all existence came from nothing. I believe in an uncaused cause which I still call God.

Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by karmaolu1(m): 5:12pm On Apr 10

Islam religion of war war and war

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Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by Antlisiam: 5:19pm On Apr 10

Na rightful something between 53 vs 6 marriage

Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by TenQ: 6:30pm On Apr 10

DeepSight:
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You are the one who could not address my posers which were too much for you. Thats why you threw a fit.
And no, I dont believe that all existence came from nothing. I believe in an uncaused cause which I still call God.

There are many "Gods"
Your God doesn't have a name?

Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by DeepSight(m): 6:34pm On Apr 10

TenQ:
There are many "Gods"
Your God doesn't have a name?

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God is ineffable. IT can no more be named than it can be seen or comprehended.

Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by Bimpe29(m): 6:38pm On Apr 10

Well articulated. Aameen Yaa Rabbi

Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by TenQ: 8:38pm On Apr 10

DeepSight:
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God is ineffable. IT can no more be named than it can be seen or comprehended.

Such doesn't exist as what has no identity nor can relate with his creation cannot be God.

Such as you described is just an Idea!

I can tell you about my God based on what He has revealed about Himself
1. My God is ONE Being
2. He is the Uncaused First-Cause of Everything
3. My God is the Omnipresent Invisible Holy Spirit. The whole Universe physical and spiritual are inside Him.
4. Because my God is a Trinity, He makes Himself visible in the Spiritual Universe as the Father .
5. Because the Physical Universe is a Subset of the Spiritual Universe, My God makes Himself Visible in the Physical and Spiritual Realms as the Word
6. At a point in time, the Word became Incarnate as Human known in the Earth as Jesus Christ.
7. My God created Humans as a special kind of beings with freewill that would by their CHOICE be the expressions of His image (Sons) through their Love, Loyalty and Submission to Him.
8. Humans who reject God are given exactly what they wanted: an eternal termination of relationship with Him in a place where God's presence will NEVER EVER disturb them.

Is your God a Being or an Idea?
Does your God interact with humans?
What is his objective for creating humans?
Is your God of Justice?

I wish you answer each ot these questions!

Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by Occurstaem(m): 9:04pm On Apr 10

It's a shame that Seun watches as Islam section is returning to hateful old days where non-Muslims flood any Islamic thread with hateful comments which led him to impose declaration of faith before commenting.

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Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by DeepSight(m): 9:07pm On Apr 10

TenQ:
Such doesn't exist as what has no identity nor can relate with his creation cannot be God.

Such as you described is just an Idea!

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Any clear and rational understanding of the concept of God must conclude that being transcendent, IT is beyond the grasp of humanity. It is incomprehensible and ineffable.

Since you only reckon with scripture, let me use scripture to land the point:

1 Timothy 6:16: "Who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen."

Isaiah 55:8–9: "'For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,' declares the Lord. 'As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.'"

Romans 11:33–34: "Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out! 'Who has known the mind of the Lord? Or who has been his counselor?'"

Job 11:7: "Can you fathom the mysteries of God? Can you probe the limits of the Almighty?"

Psalm 145:3: "Great is the Lord and most worthy of praise; his greatness no one can fathom."

I can tell you about my God based on what He has revealed about Himself

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The so called revelations are just the writings of men which include their fantasies, lies and imaginations.

[i]1. My God is ONE Being

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I agree.

2. He is the Uncaused First-Cause of Everything

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I agree.

3. My God is the Omnipresent Invisible Holy Spirit. The whole Universe physical and spiritual are inside Him.

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This is a pantheistic view.

4. Because my God is a Trinity, He makes Himself visible in the Spiritual Universe as the Father .
5. Because the Physical Universe is a Subset of the Spiritual Universe, My God makes Himself Visible in the Physical and Spiritual Realms as the Word
6. At a point in time, the Word became Incarnate as Human known in the Earth as Jesus Christ.

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I thought you said your God is one. How come he is also three.

7. My God created Humans as a special kind of beings with freewill that would by their CHOICE be the expressions of His image (Sons) through their Love, Loyalty and Submission to Him.

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Scripture does not teach freewill. Or rather, it teaches predestination.

Ephesians 1:4–5

"For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will."

Ephesians 1:11

"In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will."

2 Timothy 1:9

"He has saved us and called us to a holy life—not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time."

Romans 8:29–30

"For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son... And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified."

Is your God a Being or an Idea?

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I dont know. No one can know what God is beyond acceding that there is a source or root of all things and that is God.

Does your God interact with humans?

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I am not sure. I know that humans interact with the spiritual and many people might call that interacting with God, but I am not sure that it is. It might be, it might not be.

What is his objective for creating humans?

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I cant tell, but my best guess is that it is self expression and to experience ITSELF.

Is your God of Justice?

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I dont know and if at all God is just, we will not be able to see the big picture that IT sees to understand its justice.
What i feel sure of is that the man made God described in scripture is manifestly unjust.

I wish you answer each ot these questions!

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Done!

Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by Angelindisguise(f): 11:45pm On Apr 10

And a very curious question, does the Quran forbid your imams and sheiks from bathing and looking good? They are always very dirty and tattered. With full unkept beards. They scare me each time I see one.

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Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by TenQ: 7:40am On Apr 11

I appreciate that for the first time you answered ny direct questions

DeepSight:
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Any clear and rational understanding of the concept of God must conclude that being transcendent, IT is beyond the grasp of humanity. It is incomprehensible and ineffable.

Since you only reckon with scripture, let me use scripture to land the point:

1 Timothy 6:16: "Who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen."

Isaiah 55:8–9: "'For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,' declares the Lord. 'As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.'"

Romans 11:33–34: "Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out! 'Who has known the mind of the Lord? Or who has been his counselor?'"

Job 11:7: "Can you fathom the mysteries of God? Can you probe the limits of the Almighty?"

Psalm 145:3: "Great is the Lord and most worthy of praise; his greatness no one can fathom."

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The so called revelations are just the writings of men which include their fantasies, lies and imaginations.

Since you chose to respond by my bible, you should understand that
1. My God chose men to write about Him in the Bible AND most of these were given superhuman abilities by which we could believe them. So, your claim of men's fantasies, lies and imaginations is preposterous
2. You will also agree that even though My God is infinitely everything, He had many times entered His creation to interact with men as Human or Angel etc
3. Examples include God with Adam, God with Abraham, God with Jacob, God as the Pillar of Light and Cloud, God as Jesus etc

So, it is part of the Greatness of my God that He can be Somewhere and Everywhere at the same time. He can be Finite and Infinite at the same time: there is NOTHING impossible with Him.

DeepSight:
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I agree.

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I agree.

No problem!

DeepSight:
+This is a pantheistic view.

No sir. My God isnt pantheistic. I told you He could be somewhere and everywhere at the same time. This is because the whole existence is within Him
Act 17:28:
"For in Him we live and move and have our being; as some of the poets among you also have said, ‘For we are His offspring.’"

We live inside God
Eph 4:6:
"One God and Father of all, Who is over all, and through all, and in you all."

God even though over us is in us

This is why God is Omnipresent : this isn't a pantheistic view, it is God's description

DeepSight:
I thought you said your God is one. How come he is also three.

Your misunderstanding about the Trinity sir. God isn't THREE, He is ONE.
Trinity is a description of the Omnipresence of ONE God Being existing Simultaneously in the Three Dimensions of Existence.

1. God's Exists in His Dimension which is the Totality of Existence as the Holy Spirit.
2. God made a Spiritual Heavenly Dimension or Universe wherein He built a realm of Existence with Angels. God as a Spirit made Himself visible in this realm as the Father who sits upon His throne.
3. The Physical universe is a subset of the Spiritual Heavenly realm. God as a Spirit made Himself visible in this realm as the Word.

Here is a limited explanation in scientific mode.
An Omnipresent Three dimensional being will equally exist to beings existing in the two dimensional space and the one dimensional space simultaneously

DeepSight:
Scripture does not teach freewill. Or rather, it teaches predestination.

Ephesians 1:4–5

"For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will."

Ephesians 1:11

"In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will."

2 Timothy 1:9

"He has saved us and called us to a holy life—not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time."

Romans 8:29–30

"For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son... And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified."

There is only ONE class of Predestination in the Bible and it stems from FOREKNOWLEDGE of God. Foreknowledge means that the Creator of TIME is NOT constrained by the flow of Time as He could see ANYTHING, ANYONE and ANY EVENT.

Rom 8:29-30:
"Because those whom He did foreknow, He also predestinated to be conformed to the image of His own Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. Now whom He predestinated, these He also called; and whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified."

Those who God Foreknew are the Ones He predestined
Rom 11:2:
"God did not repudiate His people whom He foreknew. Don’t you know what the scripture says in the account of Elijah? How he was pleading with God against Israel, saying,"

God will not reject Israel in spite of their behaviours because He already know (foreknowledge) that at the end there would be an awakening that will cause a restoration

All Predestination in the Bible is because of provision for Salvation

DeepSight:
I dont know. No one can know what God is beyond acceding that there is a source or root of all things and that is God.

So, how do you know even the limited knowledge you have of your God?

One can know ONLY that that God reveals about Himself. God revealed Himself through men whom He backed up with supernatural abilities by which we can trust their claims. This is the essence of the scripture.

BTW
Any God that doesn't relate with His creation doesn't exist. Because if He is Transcendent and a Being , He must have a Purpose and He must care about the morality of His creations.

DeepSight:
I am not sure. I know that humans interact with the spiritual and many people might call that interacting with God, but I am not sure that it is. It might be, it might not be.

Yes, God does interact with Humans.
Do you think God should care if a Human being lives a Wicked life?
Do you agree that the source of Mortality should be God?
The purpose of the gift of our Conscience is that God inputs His will in us. Our conscience warns us that we are violating devine rules.

DeepSight:
I cant tell, but my best guess is that it is self expression and to experience ITSELF.

The objective of God for creating Humans on earth is for SELECTION of "sons" who would represent His will by their Freewill. Everything was created for God's pleasure
Col 1:16:
"Because by Him were all things created, the things in heaven and the things on earth, the visible and the invisible, whether they be thrones, or lordships, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by Him and for Him."
Heb 2:10:
"Because it was fitting for Him, for Whom all things were created, and by Whom all things exist, in bringing many sons unto glory , to make the Author of their salvation perfect through sufferings."
Rev 4:11:
"You are worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power: for you have created all things, and for your pleasure they are and were created."

DeepSight:
I dont know and if at all God is just, we will not be able to see the big picture that IT sees to understand its justice.
What i feel sure of is that the man made God described in scripture is manifestly unjust.

Ask yourself, If God is a Being and He made creations who could choose to be good or wicked, should He not be Just?[/quote]You need to first identify if God is a BEING or NOT.
If He is a Being, then you will have logical clarity to move ahead knowing and understanding His purpose.

If God is NOT a Being, existence is purposeless

Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by TheRealOwner(m): 5:00pm On Apr 11

Occurstaem:
It's a shame that Seun watches as Islam section is returning to hateful old days where non-Muslims flood any Islamic thread with hateful comments which led him to impose declaration of faith before commenting.

The big question is this... Why aren't you reporting it to Allah? Afterall, Inna Allaha 'ala kulli shay'in qadeer

. It's strange that you are indirectly appealing to a mere man to do something (again) about the comments when you can simply make dua about it today and watch Allah stop them permanently

Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by mamawin(f): 6:42pm On Apr 14

BlackfireX:
Can you tell me 1 good thing about Islam that is so spectacular and wonderful?

Please just 1 not 2 or 3

Just 1

It is hard to pick one good thing about Islam, when they are countless. I do not know if you are a muslim or not. If you aren't, try and forget everything you've heard or read in the western media, your muslim neighbours or all acquaintances of yours; then read about Islam yourself; albeit with an open mind. You will discover that Islam means peace. That Peace (of mind and soul) is one thing that's most spectacular and wonderful!

Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by BlackfireX: 1:24am On Apr 15

mamawin:
It is hard to pick one good thing about Islam, when they are countless. I do not know if you are a muslim or not. If you aren't, try and forget everything you've heard or read in the western media, your muslim neighbours or all acquaintances of yours; then read about Islam yourself; albeit with an open mind. You will discover that Islam means peace. That Peace (of mind and soul) is one thing that's most spectacular and wonderful!

How are you today?
My question is very simple and I am asking from you to tell me out of the countless good thing about Islam to name just one... habibi this should be the most easiest for you to do

Don't you think?

So let me ask again, please stay focus...name one good spectacular thing about Islam? Just one?

Please don't be confused stay focus

Re: Rights Of Children In Islam! by mamawin(f): 8:17am On Apr 15

BlackfireX:
How are you today?
My question is very simple and I am asking from you to tell me out of the countless good thing about Islam to name just one... habibi this should be the most easiest for you to do

Don't you think?

So let me ask again, please stay focus...name one good spectacular thing about Islam? Just one?

Please don't be confused stay focus

I guess you missed the last line 'That Peace (of mind and soul) is one thing that's most spectacular and wonderful!'

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