₦airaland Forum

Hedonisco:
This is also another dimension of the same thing I'm saying. Tinubu can objectively 'chance' Obi, and nothing would happen to be honest, because the man is decent and his followers are also the cosmopolitan, 'no violence' kind.

Atiku would be desperate enough to raise hell. And the northern voting bloc take no prisoners and make no pretence about being civil'. Especially when they know they won. Tinubu would meet a disgraceful end if he attempts any rubbish and he would not dare.

We need a Yin - Yang combination which Atiku/Obi represents. And that's the only antidote that would work against a cancerous phenomenon like Tinubu.

Hedonisco:
Even though I am a thoroughbred 'Obidient', I must say it sternly that getting Tinubu out is more important than getting Peter Obi in.

In fact, if sacrificing Obi's presidency is what it takes to save Nigeria from another four years of Tinubu (God forbid) then that is a small price to pay.

The problem with Obi/Kwankwaso ticket is that, knowing how desperate Tinubu is, he can and will attempt to blatantly rig the election against an 'ibo man', and play up tribal/religious sentiments to douse any tension that might arise from such. Most Nigerians would simply shrug their shoulders and carry on, while Peter Obi himself would he busy singing about 'due process' and challenging the charade in the Court.

Unfortunately, we cannot afford such gentleness at this point in our lives.

That is why an Atiku/Obi ticket is IMPERATIVE.

Atiku, being as desperate as Tinubu and being of Northern stock, and knowing that he won the elections, would be able to deploy the level of madness needed to run Tinubu out of town and save Nigerians from this rubbish. And I believe that Peter Obi would inevitably become president sooner than later, during or after his spell as Vice President to Atiku.

No amount of permutation or grammar can dispute this reality.

All Obidients need to understand this and prepare for this.

AMINDA:
For the same reason that Tinubu lost Lagos. In the North, Kaduna is perhaps the only cosmopolitan state just like Lagos due to its urbanity and high population of Christians and other settlers from other tribes. This is unlike other Northern states that are very conservative. Despite this, Kaduna remains the capital of Northern politics and it sets the pace for other states. In 2023, Atiku (an influential Northerner in his own right) got 500k+ votes while Tinubu got 400k votes and Kwankwaso got 150k votes. Southern Kaduna revolted against muslim-muslim ticket and largely voted Obi who got 200k votes. Fastforward to 2027 and Atiku, Obi, Kwankwaso and Elrufai are now in the same party. Numbers don't lie.

Now, having said that, tell us why a combination of Sanwo-olu, Gbajabiamila, Fashola, Obasa and Tinubu failed to deliver Lagos despite Tinubu being on the ballot. Is it because they were not influential in their states and their influence was overrated? Why do you expect the people of Kaduna to love Tinubu more than he's loved at home? Aside Lagos and maybe Ibadan, what other SW state delivered a higher margin of votes to Tinubu than he got in Kaduna?

Lithiumite:
On your last point about tinubu's margin in the SW,i believe you joking, right? If not,you obviously arent having the correct 23 data......tinubu lost lagos and many cosmopolitan towns in the south due majorly to the APC's anti people policies at the time such as currency seizures,deliberatr power shortages,fuel hoarding connected to those in Buhari’s govt opposed to tinubu's candidacy.....its open knowledge, atiku and obi got a lot of support from the cabal in aso rock......all that is no more in 27.....the opposition benefited majorly from protest votes which was more manifest in obi's results.

The north Central votes obi got were majorly against the Muslim Muslim ticket of the apc which wouldn't be much of a factor in 27 as tge NC is seeing a balancing out of key strategic positions and policies in favor of the region.

Structure!! You can never overlook this and you can ignore at your own peril......no party in Nigeria today has that compared to the ruling party, PDP Structure got atiku so far in 23 but thats no more in 27 and you know therein lies tinubu's strength and he has always had a well oiled mechanism to make thus as efficient as possible.

Current economic realities are obviously against tinubu,I would atleast not be foolish to write that off but what I know for a certain is that it isn't always sacrosanct in the minds of voters as it didn't stop buhari in 19 and infact didn't help gej in 15.....many voters are susceptible to patronage and you did be foolish to ignore the efficacy of this in every election and everyone knows where that power lies at the moment.

Lithiumite:
How come your el rufai only got 29% of his kaduna's votes for tinubu as a seating gov lower than bauchi a pdp state.....el rufai got the lowest margin for tinubu as an apc state just second to Gombe which can be excused for being in same region atiku is from........el rufai got the lowest margin from the NW,lower than sokoto a pdp state at the time.......you can equally pretend not to take note of the oblivious fact all tinubu's allies in the NW are still with him,how many can atiku boast of in the south with any meaningful influence except obi or maybe aregbesola.....obi's votes are considered lost already if he isn't the principal candidate,obi cannot give anyone 100k votes if he isn't on the ballot as the principal candidate, anambra and fct council elections proved that beyond doubt.....aregbe on the other hand will be overwhelmed by the etnic card tinubu's people will pull thereby having pretty insignificant impact to atiku's course.

Hedonisco:
The claim that Obi would lose votes by deputizing Atiku is laughable.

The Atiku/Obi ticket polled 11.2 million votes in 2019, against the 'almighty' Buhari’s 15 million votes. For context, the despicable Tinubu scavenged, burgled, artificed and smuggled mere 8 million votes from all corners of the underworld to become a barely legitimate president, yet he is doing the most. Lol.

The simple question to ask is: If any Obi supporter refuses to vote for an Atiku/Obi ticket, what are the options? Vote for Tinubu or abstain? To be sure, abstaining is an indirect vote for Tinubu.

In Nigeria of today, nobody outside the core South West (excluding Urban Lagos), Kwara and Kogi states) would rather vote for Tinubu than an Atiku/Obi ticket. Take that to the bank.

Any high sounding political talk about 'Southern Presidency' does not resonate with the average non-Yoruba voter who can objectively see how Tinubu has destroyed the economy and just wants him to get out. Don't let anyone deceive you.

Besides, everyone can see the extreme yorubalization of the Federal Government and so it would be a joke to tell the average person in the South East or South South to support a so-called 'Southern Presidency' that has alienated them more than any Northern presidency ever did.

Hedonisco:
"Fact" is what you say it is. Otherwise, why not provide a simple, objective argument to back your claim?

The primary task is to get rid of Tinubu by any means. But that doesn't mean we would keep quiet and allow you guys ascribe more 'importance' to your side of the ticket.

The essential 'fact' now is that Atiku/Obi ticket is the only way to legitimately get rid of Tinubu without the military or a revolution. None is more important than the other, because no half of that ticket can get rid of Tinubu without the other. It is really as simple as that.

Svoboda:
The north believes this is Atikus time, as it is last chance saloon for him. This is whether you like it or not. An Atiku on the ballot would be Tinubus biggest headache. Tinubu should be wary of an Atiku without a Buhari on the horizon. Even some singing Tinubus mandate in the north are with Atiku. I fully agree that Obi/Kwankwaso stands no chance, no matter how tantalising that prospect might seem.

AMINDA:
I flipped your question back at you and you suddenly have justification as to why Tinubu failed to deliver himself in Lagos. Why then did you expect Elrufai to deliver Kaduna to Tinubu when Tinubu couldn't deliver himself in a state he governed for 8 years? If Elrufai's contribution is overrated because he didn't deliver Kaduna to Tinubu, why shouldn't we also call Tinubu overrated? Was the naira policy only a factor in Lagos? Have you forgotten Elrufai went against the Villa cabals and openly sued the Buhari government to court over the naira policy, thereby courting many enemies in the North as a result? I don't know about the SW but being ungrateful is not a virtue in other regions. I daresay that Elrufai succeeded in flipping the script and made the naira scarcity a net positive for Tinubu because he helped demonstrate that Tinubu was being victimised. Anyways, time is a gentleman.

As to your other points, I already addressed that. Tinubu's perceived gains in the Northcentral will be easily undone if he goes ahead with a muslim-muslim ticket in 2027. Plus, all candidates will get their share of the NC no matter what happens. No single candidate can win the region in a landslide.

HIGHESTPOPORI:
If you keep using fct elections or Anambra elections to judge,Obidients only Vote when Obi is contesting election,nobody even knows the people contesting local govt elections that are easily rigged.

Svoboda:
"Obi or nothing" is subtle campaign for Tinubu.

Hedonisco:
The claim that Obi would lose votes by deputizing Atiku is laughable.

The Atiku/Obi ticket polled 11.2 million votes in 2019, against the 'almighty' Buhari’s 15 million votes. For context, the despicable Tinubu scavenged, burgled, artificed and smuggled mere 8 million votes from all corners of the underworld to become a barely legitimate president, yet he is doing the most. Lol.

The simple question to ask is: If any Obi supporter refuses to vote for an Atiku/Obi ticket, what are the options? Vote for Tinubu or abstain? To be sure, abstaining is an indirect vote for Tinubu.

In Nigeria of today, nobody outside the core South West (excluding Urban Lagos), Kwara and Kogi states) would rather vote for Tinubu than an Atiku/Obi ticket. Take that to the bank.

Any high sounding political talk about 'Southern Presidency' does not resonate with the average non-Yoruba voter who can objectively see how Tinubu has destroyed the economy and just wants him to get out. Don't let anyone deceive you.

Besides, everyone can see the extreme yorubalization of the Federal Government and so it would be a joke to tell the average person in the South East or South South to support a so-called 'Southern Presidency' that has alienated them more than any Northern presidency ever did.

SuperEagles:
And what is wrong in that ?;
Why can't Tinubu continue ?

Odin13:
Atiku has gained more .. while Obi has lost some ..

This is fact

South can’t outvote North.

Svoboda:
The north believes this is Atikus time, as it is last chance saloon for him. This is whether you like it or not. An Atiku on the ballot would be Tinubus biggest headache. Tinubu should be wary of an Atiku without a Buhari on the horizon. Even some singing Tinubus mandate in the north are with Atiku. I fully agree that Obi/Kwankwaso stands no chance, no matter how tantalising that prospect might seem.

Svoboda:
Tinubu has no competence to continue.

Hedonisco:
Even though I am a thoroughbred 'Obidient', I must say it sternly that getting Tinubu out is more important than getting Peter Obi in.

In fact, if sacrificing Obi's presidency is what it takes to save Nigeria from another four years of Tinubu (God forbid) then that is a small price to pay.

The problem with Obi/Kwankwaso ticket is that, knowing how desperate Tinubu is, he can and will attempt to blatantly rig the election against an 'ibo man', and play up tribal/religious sentiments to douse any tension that might arise from such. Most Nigerians would simply shrug their shoulders and carry on, while Peter Obi himself would he busy singing about 'due process' and challenging the charade in the Court.

Unfortunately, we cannot afford such gentleness at this point in our lives.

That is why an Atiku/Obi ticket is IMPERATIVE.

Atiku, being as desperate as Tinubu and being of Northern stock, and knowing that he won the elections, would be able to deploy the level of madness needed to run Tinubu out of town and save Nigerians from this rubbish. And I believe that Peter Obi would inevitably become president sooner than later, during or after his spell as Vice President to Atiku.

No amount of permutation or grammar can dispute this reality.

All Obidients need to understand this and prepare for this.

Akpakomiza2:
Atiku in 2023 with six governors failed woefully, an Atiku with no governor won't fly.. no matter how much the north votes him, it won't exceed 60%. Atiku Achilles heel remains north central. Atiku needs a running mate with a powerful warchest which rules out obi. Amechi, Makinde, Udom Emmanuel, Seriake Dickson are the only ones available which will turn into a rout

Svoboda:
Tinubu has no competence to continue.

Svoboda:
Tinubu with over 20 APC govs won only 4 states in the south. Despite being godfather, he lost Lagos and also osun, largely regarded as his homestate.

Atiku was in fact swimming against the tide because Buhari was a factor in favour of Tinubu.

Hedonisco:
Even though I am a thoroughbred 'Obidient', I must say it sternly that getting Tinubu out is more important than getting Peter Obi in.

In fact, if sacrificing Obi's presidency is what it takes to save Nigeria from another four years of Tinubu (God forbid) then that is a small price to pay.

The problem with Obi/Kwankwaso ticket is that, knowing how desperate Tinubu is, he can and will attempt to blatantly rig the election against an 'ibo man', and play up tribal/religious sentiments to douse any tension that might arise from such. Most Nigerians would simply shrug their shoulders and carry on, while Peter Obi himself would he busy singing about 'due process' and challenging the charade in the Court.

Unfortunately, we cannot afford such gentleness at this point in our lives.

That is why an Atiku/Obi ticket is IMPERATIVE.

Atiku, being as desperate as Tinubu and being of Northern stock, and knowing that he won the elections, would be able to deploy the level of madness needed to run Tinubu out of town and save Nigerians from this rubbish. And I believe that Peter Obi would inevitably become president sooner than later, during or after his spell as Vice President to Atiku.

No amount of permutation or grammar can dispute this reality.

All Obidients need to understand this and prepare for this.

Lithiumite:
You are obviously an el rufai lackey,which i agree you have a right to.......el rufai's results out of kaduna was woeful considering how much you all arrogate tinubu's votes to his perceived influence.......kano is equally as cosmopolitan as kaduna and ganduje still bested your el rufai despite Kwankwaso on the ballot......you claim other parts of the NW as been conservative politically, what has changed in that regard now.....wamakko and the apc lost sokoto by less than 2% despite being a pdp state,badaru won jigawa against atiku and yari,matawalle,shettima,shinkafi and malafa won zamfara by over 50%......buhari lost katsina by less than 10k votes,thats still very good considering the opposition candidate was a northerner,even Bagudu did far better than your el rufai......the last i checked all of these people and many too numerous to mention didn't have same entitlement mentality as your el rufai.....what positions is wamakko holding, yari,shettima,badaru and ganduje were removed but you don't see them turning renegade against their party as el rufai.

All northen govs swore to the heavens how much they loved gej and guaranteed him victory but alas their real intentions manifested at the polls.....same thing el rufai's antics can be aptly interpreted as for the 23 polls.

Talking about betrayal not being appreciated in the north,el rufai himself typifies that with his treatment of atiku post 07 till a few months ago he sulked up back to him.....I bet that can be excused because its brother against brother but tinubu's head should hang on spike because he is a southerner......nigerians are wiser and they can see through your charade.

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Hedonisco:
Even though I am a thoroughbred 'Obidient', I must say it sternly that getting Tinubu out is more important than getting Peter Obi in.

In fact, if sacrificing Obi's presidency is what it takes to save Nigeria from another four years of Tinubu (God forbid) then that is a small price to pay.

The problem with Obi/Kwankwaso ticket is that, knowing how desperate Tinubu is, he can and will attempt to blatantly rig the election against an 'ibo man', and play up tribal/religious sentiments to douse any tension that might arise from such. Most Nigerians would simply shrug their shoulders and carry on, while Peter Obi himself would he busy singing about 'due process' and challenging the charade in the Court.

Unfortunately, we cannot afford such gentleness at this point in our lives.

That is why an Atiku/Obi ticket is IMPERATIVE.

Atiku, being as desperate as Tinubu and being of Northern stock, and knowing that he won the elections, would be able to deploy the level of madness needed to run Tinubu out of town and save Nigerians from this rubbish. And I believe that Peter Obi would inevitably become president sooner than later, during or after his spell as Vice President to Atiku.

No amount of permutation or grammar can dispute this reality.

All Obidients need to understand this and prepare for this.

AMINDA:
The North that gave Tinubu 5.6m votes. Traditionally, the NE and NW vote one-way but in 2023, they altered their voting pattern and splitted their votes 3-ways between Atiku, Tinubu and Kwankwaso to accommodate Tinubu. Northcentral will always get split no matter the permutation and in 2023, all three major candidates got over a million votes each from the region. Tinubu's win in the NC was marginal. The Christians in the North largely voted Obi in 2023 and while this may appear to have changed, it remains dicey for Tinubu and may quickly change if he goes ahead with a muslim-muslim ticket while other parties balance their ticket. The perceived support Tinubu currently enjoys among Christians in the NC is because he has tacitly implied that he will be conceding the VP ticket to the middlebelt come 2027.

Akpakomiza2:
Tinubu victory over Atiku in north central wasn't marginal, stop disgracing yourself. He won Atiku by a margin of 800k more than the winning margins in NE or NW. It will grow bigger this time. Their suport for Tinubu is due to his liberalism, his fight against insecurity esp benue plateau axis and allaying fears of marginalization and not because of any vp ticket

AMINDA:
Lol. This was Uba Sani yesterday clearly saying that the "messaging is not there" when talking about Tinubu's campaign in the North but I'm sure you're well informed on the matter than he is. Only Northern APC faithfuls can tell you about the challenges they face in trying to sell Tinubu in the North but you can continue to grandstand. The reality is that APC is struggling to fill Elrufai's shoes in the North. They are lacking an inspiring Northern figure.

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Svoboda:
Tinubu with over 20 APC govs won only 4 states in the south. Despite being godfather, he lost Lagos and also osun, largely regarded as his homestate.

Atiku was in fact swimming against the tide because Buhari was a factor in favour of Tinubu.

AMINDA:
Tinubu's margins in the NC in 2023 was because of muslim-muslim ticket, not inspite of it. The Christians in the NC largely voted Obi while Muslims splitted their votes between Atiku and Tinubu. It is naïve to think Tinubu will now win the Christian votes in the NC while running on a muslim-muslim ticket in 2027, despite failing to solve the insecurity in the region and his latest gaffe in Plateau.

Svoboda:
Tinubu has no competence to continue.

Lithiumite:
Whats wrong with what uba sani said,you expectvthem to keep deluding themselves that adc isn't a threath as you northerners deceived gej in 15.......el rufai's shoes in kaduna you mean!! We await ashiru to come win kaduna fir el rufai and lets see how much the center will be able to hold between the 2 if he wins.......el rufai will be dimistufied even further post 27......buhari was the last of them after the sadauna and there can't be any such again atleast not with this current crop of northern leaders.