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DeepSight:
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Deep. Do you believe in reincarnation

Not necessarily, but somehow i believe we are products of energy, not created nor destroyed...

UnknownQueen:
Not necessarily, but somehow i believe we are products of energy, not created nor destroyed...

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Interesting. If I may. I am curious.

1. Do you believe in God and if so what is it/ he/ she to you

2. The above from you suggests we are eternal in the past in someway. How so.

3. What the moniker. I mean the unknown bit.

chieveboy:
Both. The created universe of matter and space cannot survive without the altruistic or malevolent or positive and the negative.

We or Observers are the ones who have all the interpretations and semantic:

Good, Bad, beautiful, ugly, tall, short.

But everything simply is 'ISing' without bias. The taster of the pudding is who now says something is negative or positive.

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There is evil, no?

DeepSight:
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There is evil, no?

There are relatively objective forces only. What paints any as good or evil is the third party.

uzhiyeka:
You fail to observe for yourself and think critically... When you do so with a clear conscience then you will realize that the white man God is just a story

Jesus loves you and every terrorist

There is no heaven or hell, but there are other places the soul goes to due to the consequences of his action.

One day,Africans shall wake up from the slumber.
Israelites ,says Jesus is a story .

We all
Know say Saudi Arabia, just Dey chop our money . Since 1000 years wey dem, Dey stoned Devil.

[quote author=CALCULUS16 post=139148423]There is no heaven or hell, but there are other places the soul goes to due to the consequences of his action.

What about the soul of the,Goat’s and all the chickens for Xmas ?

Same with those who make it to hell.

All cry na cry

I love this Trend...

Rossty:
Find money first, enjoy good life maybe you wont be too worried about judgement day. If there is any

you go like money

As a Nigerian I'm used to hell. No worries

BioData45:
I don't even know the hell fire I'm going to, Muslim or Christians hell fire?

You people must be sick in the head for this fairy tales.

Very Fairy tales

Which heaven de sky lol I wanna miss the heaven ....the only heaven I know it's on earth and hell on earth not when we die

chieveboy:
There are relatively objective forces only. What paints any as good or evil is the third party.

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I mean there are acts that would be evil. E.g: the holocaust.

UnknownQueen:
I agree with you, especially the materially poor and I dont blame them, some of them work very hard to gain earthly wealth but since we all know hard work is not a criteria for succcess and wealth, they need to cling to a hope,belief or fallacy that their possesions are in heaven since they cant get it on earth...

Those who wrote the bible are pure psychologist, I was wondering if there's no promise of heaven , mansion and other things written there in , most Christians wont believe in any Christ

Religion and law were crafted by great minds and carefully selected advanced philosophers.

cutecommend:
The greatest doom a person can have is for his soul to leave his body and appear in eternity with a judgement of hell fire.

Missing heaven is the greatest heartbreak any human can experience. It is a hopeless situation in a hopeless end of hopelessness.

Do you know some people you know that died may be in hell fire? But you are still alive with the chance to repent and accept Jesus today.

Follow Jesus today and do your best not to miss heaven.

How old are u? Lol

Im sure ure surprised by the amount of comments calling ur bluff. We are in the age of awakening. Go google it. Europe passed this stage in the Industrial Revolution.

We Africans are setting our own stage now. Religious fairy tales of damnation are now challeneged like never before.

Now all those anti God overqualified to go to hel are claiming "loving children"

JoeEeL:
How old are u? Lol

Im sure ure surprised by the amount of comments calling ur bluff. We are in the age of awakening. Go google it. Europe passed this stage in the Industrial Revolution.

We Africans are setting our own stage now. Religious fairy tales of damnation are now challeneged like never before.

Awakening where you people are counting what you eat? You ain't seen nothing yet. Tinubu would unload part 2 Tinubullyism

Revolva:
Which heaven de sky lol I wanna miss the heaven ....the only heaven I know it's on earth and hell on earth not when we die

When you die, you would know that the ones you know on earth were just the great grandchildren

FunnyDude:
Very Fairy tales

Wishes until the doctor tells you you have canca

Tboy222:
Heaven and hell are both illusions created by the Draconian god of the old testament .

Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalena the red haired lady were the first begotten of the father.

They were the first created being, portrayed by the Jewish mystics as Adam Kadmon, the primordial man, the androgynous son of God

The perfect man, the perfect square, the vitruvian man, the hieros gamos within the holies of holies, the masonic square and compass on Solomon temple.

And God created man in his own image, male and female created he them and he called their name Adam.

Jesus and Mary Magdalena are both twin flames, one soul split into two bodies, male and female.

He is the logos, she is wisdom (Sophia) seek her as silver atom no 47.

47 is the freedom code, it is the liberty code, it is the fourth of July, the silver code, the Sophia code.

Leonardo da Vinci was right after all.

Jesus and Mary Magdalena are both one and the same person.

He is the seven stars, She is the seven candlesticks, He is the seven stars, She is the seven Spirits that burn before the throne.

Two of them unite as the androgynous Lucifer, the statue of liberty , alongside the 144, 000 and the star seeds from the 12 dimensional matrix timeline , to wage war against the Draconian god of the old testament. The great cosmic rebellion.

But first we await the return of the skyGods, the return of Enki, the return of the Annunaki, who manipulated our 12 strand DNA , during the days of Noah.

In the aprocryphon of John , Jesus says, " I am the Father, I am the Mother, I am the Son.

The founding fathers of America , the freemasons adopted Euclid 47th problem of Pythagoras.

A square + b square = c square

Father + mother = Son ( Adam Kadmon, twin flames, male and female)

It is the divine triangle, it is the mark of the beast. 666.

Jesus is the prince and priest of Atlantis, while Maria Magdalena or Babalon as she is known as by the thelmites or the red goddess is the princess and priestess of Atlantis.

He is the red dragon with ten heads, while she is the scarlet lady, mystery mother of Babylon.

The book apocalypse of Adam banned by the Vatican, revealed that the God of the bible is actually the devil himself.

And that Lucifer was actually right.

Jesus and Mary Magdalena descended from the father of lights known by the Jewish Kabbalist as the ein dog, the primordial father, the androgynous father, the father, Mother.

The phycists lebniz call it the monad, the source of all human consciousness.

Please, who or what are you?.

cutecommend:
The greatest doom a person can have is for his soul to leave his body and appear in eternity with a judgement of hell fire.

Missing heaven is the greatest heartbreak any human can experience. It is a hopeless situation in a hopeless end of hopelessness.

Do you know some people you know that died may be in hell fire? But you are still alive with the chance to repent and accept Jesus today.

Follow Jesus today and do your best not to miss heaven.

Thank you, OP.

I pray people's eyes and hearts are opened.

Rubbish fear mongering. We are old enough to accept the consequences of our actions. Whatever I see on the other side (if it exists to begin with), I take.

DeepSight:
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I mean there are acts that would be evil. E.g: the holocaust.

No, its an action primarily with several permutations of effects.



Those affected and those emotionally or "rationally" invested are the ones who would say it is evil and also good. Note how what you think was evil, the perpetrator believes its good.

chieveboy:
No, its an action primarily with several permutations of effects.



Those affected and those emotionally or "rationally" invested are the ones who would say it is evil and also good. Note how what you think was evil, the perpetrator believes its good.

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All morality is therefore subjective in your view and no act can bee said to be objectively or rationally good or evil?

DeepSight:
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All morality is therefore subjective in your view and no act can bee said to be objectively or rationally good or evil?

Spot on!

chieveboy:
Spot on!

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No worries so long as you understand the implications of this, some of which are -

1. That you should never condemn any act by anyone no matter how extreme. At best you can have your opinion of it and if you have superior might, you can use that superior might to suppress it.

2. If anyone has superior might they can also legitimately use that superior might to enforce their subjective views of what is moral, even if it includes mass murder, slavery, torture of children and innocents and mass rape.

3. There is no basis for criminal law as that amounts to forcing subjective views of morality on others who may disagree with such.

4. If in my subjective view it is right to rape and torture your wife for no particular reason, I am right to do so, and your own subjective view of such an action is your cup of tea.

DeepSight:
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No worries so long as you understand the implications of this, some of which are -

1. That you should never condemn any act by anyone no matter how extreme. At best you can have your opinion of it and if you have superior might, you can use that superior might to suppress it.

2. If anyone has superior might they can also legitimately use that superior might to enforce their subjective views of what is moral, even if it includes mass murder, slavery, torture of children and innocents and mass rape.

3. There is no basis for criminal law as that amounts to forcing subjective views of morality on others who may disagree with such.

4. If in my subjective view it is right to rape and torture your wife for no particular reason, I am right to do so, and your own subjective view of such an action is your cup of tea.

That's exactly what I am saying but you seem to reason that saying morality and rationality is subjective equals tolerating any. You are not looking at it from the 'originality' view point in the sense of metal just being metal and not poison or medicine.

Derive an understanding from the following and apply it to what I say about rationality and morality being subjective and relative:

A Hot pot on fire is on its own. No one says it is hot or not yet. It is the first time a pot was placed on fire in this life.

A child touches it and gets burnt. They at that moment develop an opinion (rationality) about pots on fire. What the child found could become a religion if taken further. This is how all rationality, morality etc are formed including un-aliving, grape and all what any would call such.

The pain of having one's beloved unalived is when a negative opinion of mur.der was formed. Even at that, if the unaliving of a same person brought liberation or freedom to the observer, it is good. So all unaliving are not objectively bad or good. You just have unaliving waiting for the experiencer to paint it.

chieveboy:
That's exactly what I am saying but you seem to reason that saying morality and rationality is subjective equals tolerating any. You are not looking at it from the 'originality' view point in the sense of metal just being metal and not poison or medicine.

Derive an understanding from the following and apply it to what I say about rationality and morality being subjective and relative:

A Hot pot on fire is on its own. No one says it is hot or not yet. It is the first time a pot was placed on fire in this life.

A child touches it and gets burnt. They at that moment develop an opinion (rationality) about pots on fire. What the child found could become a religion if taken further. This is how all rationality, morality etc are formed including un-aliving, grape and all what any would call such.

The pain of having one's beloved unalived is when a negative opinion of mur.der was formed. Even at that, if the unaliving of a same person brought liberation or freedom to the observer, it is good. So all unaliving are not objectively bad or good. You just have unaliving waiting for the experiencer to paint it.

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I don't have a problem with all this. What is missing is the fact that you are not attaching an objective moral value to human judgements and acts.

So long as you don't do that, you have to accept all the implications I listed.

Because if it's all subjective, then it's fine whatever each individual believes is right for him to do. And you can only overcome or suppress it by force. Even then, you will not have changed his subjective morality. You would only have had your way. Via might being right.

Chieveboy. By the way I really like your statement of iron being iron, neither poison nor medicine. I agree. The elements are neutral. Power and capacity is neutral. What is done with it however, is a different kettle of fish. What is done can indeed be either objectively good or evil.