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DeepSight:
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Please stop saying "worser."
Well maybe will agree with you.

Why are you quoting me to this thread
Have you not enough on your hands blaming God for the process of ageing?
You've not thanked God for the gift of life but you blame God for the limitations of the living
Hmmm

Kukutente23:
Why are you quoting me to this thread
Have you not enough on your hands blaming God for the process of ageing?
You've not thanked God for the gift of life but you blame God for the limitations of the living
Hmmm

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I didn't specifically blame God for old age, I questioned if the trials of age do will not make us question the mercies of God.

DeepSight:
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I didn't specifically blame God for old age, I questioned if the trials of age do will not make us question the mercies of God.

What's the relationship between old age and the mercies of God

Kukutente23:
What's the relationship between old age and the mercies of God

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The degeneration often accompanied with old age, and in many cases the painful breakdown of the body and even mind.

Kukutente23:
Why are you quoting me to this thread
Have you not enough on your hands blaming God for the process of ageing?
You've not thanked God for the gift of life but you blame God for the limitations of the living
Hmmm

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Random thought.
Has it ever occurred to you that the creator of this world (and architect of this Earth-Life) is a junior cosmic being and not the originating being or source of all existence and all reality?

DeepSight:
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Random thought.
Has it ever occurred to you that the creator of this world (and architect of this Earth-Life) is a junior cosmic being and not the originating being or source of all existence and all reality?

What do you mean by this gibberish of junior cosmic being? Who ten are his peers and who is their superior? What level are you on the hierarchy of beings?
Rest pls. It's too early in the day to give vent to your delusions

DeepSight:
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The degeneration often accompanied with old age, and in many cases the painful breakdown of the body and even mind.

That's how life is
You have to accept the sweet and the not so palatable

Kukutente23:
What do you mean by this gibberish of junior cosmic being? Who ten are his peers and who is their superior? What level are you on the hierarchy of beings?
Rest pls. It's too early in the day to give vent to your delusions

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This is why I started keeping my distance from you. Your aggression is too much. What has been said to start being so grouchy. Nothing. A mere speculative thought was offered.

DeepSight:
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This is why I started keeping my distance from you. Your aggression is too much. What has been said to start being so grouchy. Nothing. A mere speculative thought was offered.

Speculative thoughts should call for meditation and studying not blowing trumpets
If you believe in cosmology, feel free to get a good theoretical background on it instead of sold speculations that lead nowhere

Kukutente23:
Speculative thoughts should call for meditation and studying not blowing trumpets
If you believe in cosmology, feel free to get a good theoretical background on it instead of sold speculations that lead nowhere

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I don hia. Have a good day.

DeepSight:
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I don hia. Have a good day.

Peace ✌️

Dtruthspeaker:
For him to get stroke means that he did not believe.

I have always told you that when believers die, it is different and i have seen the deaths of both a believer and the others and the difference is clear.

Oh please spare me this crap.

LordReed:
Are you minding that one. He has no sense of what is appropriate. Many of them have no sense of empathy.

Who has empathy for bad people? Who is giving empathy to the boy who murdered his mother because she did not give him money to japa? You must be joking

LordReed:
Oh please spare me this crap.

Being in denial won't change the fact that there is a big difference in the way and manner Christians die as different from others.

Dtruthspeaker:
Being in denial won't change the fact that there is a big difference in the way and manner Christians die as different from others.

A difference only you knows. Abegi make I hear word.

Dtruthspeaker:
Who has empathy for bad people? Who is giving empathy to the boy who murdered his mother because she did not give him money to japa? You must be joking

Everybody is bad except you. LoLz.

DeepSight:
➜I am talking about the peculiar infirmities and vulnerabilities of old age and old age related illnesses which can be extreme and depressing.

Are non-age-related illnesses less extreme and depressing? 😒

Kobojunkie:
Are non-age-related illnesses less extreme and depressing? 😒

Sure, many are.

LordReed:
A difference only you knows. Abegi make I hear word.

Normal. Denial and atheism are the same person . And see it, the difference between a Christian's death and others is beginning to show up here

https://www.nairaland.com/8659760/rev-dr-osueke-passes-away

Dtruthspeaker:
Whether old or young when a condemd is dying, it is always a horrible experience. I just went through the experience of watching a family member die yesterday and so now I know first hand a lot more about dying and death. And i pity all those who are enemies of God. There is no escaping God and it is on that day you would real eyes why Solomon said fear God.

Cc SpyMaster1

Sorry for your loss.
You turn every discussion about suffering, old age, or death into the same broken record: “I pity all those who are enemies of God… there is no escaping God… fear God or else.”

Even in the Ecclesiastes thread, you did the exact same thing twisting a deeply skeptical book into your personal “Solomon rebelled and got crushed, so fear God” sermon.

Many Christians on here are mature enough to discuss the realities of old age, infirmity, and death without immediately using it to attack “enemies of God” or threaten people with divine punishment. The original poster was asking a genuine, human question about whether the indignities of long life make people question God’s mercies.
Instead of engaging thoughtfully, you jumped straight to fear-mongering and pitying non-believers.

That kind of aggressive, “us vs them” approach doesn’t strengthen faith it repels people. A lot of reasonable Christians here know the difference between honest reflection on suffering and turning every tragedy into a weapon against those who don’t share your exact beliefs.

The Preacher in Ecclesiastes faced the horror and futility of death honestly for most of the book. You seem incapable of doing that without adding your favourite fear-based twist.

SpyMaster1:
Sorry for your loss.
You turn every discussion about suffering, old age, or death into the same broken record: “I pity all those who are enemies of God… there is no escaping God… fear God or else.”

Even in the Ecclesiastes thread, you did the exact same thing twisting a deeply skeptical book into your personal “Solomon rebelled and got crushed, so fear God” sermon.

Many Christians on here are mature enough to discuss the realities of old age, infirmity, and death without immediately using it to attack “enemies of God” or threaten people with divine punishment. The original poster was asking a genuine, human question about whether the indignities of long life make people question God’s mercies.
Instead of engaging thoughtfully, you jumped straight to fear-mongering and pitying non-believers.

That kind of aggressive, “us vs them” approach doesn’t strengthen faith it repels people. A lot of reasonable Christians here know the difference between honest reflection on suffering and turning every tragedy into a weapon against those who don’t share your exact beliefs.

The Preacher in Ecclesiastes faced the horror and futility of death honestly for most of the book. You seem incapable of doing that without adding your favourite fear-based twist.

Now you are seeing why attack enemies of God with death bed issues because in that horrible day, all these anti Godism stops. There is no argument whatsoever. Every dying soul on that day is now in sweat filled trepidation and in crippling fear of God. I saw it all around me.

And so the question i put to the living who still have many more years on earth is why would you live your life being an enemy of God only for you to disturb the living and God when you are on your death bed?

And worse, on that day it is even over too late. (Yes, i said it and I always say it. Anyone telling you that you can repent on your death bed is lying to you and I know we have all seen many people repenting and praying on their death beds. But let's say the Truth, did it work?

I definitely say 'No! It didn't work."

So, i put it to the living does it make any sense to live a life being an enemy of God only for you to start sweating in terrifying fear when death comes?

Dtruthspeaker:
Now you are seeing why attack enemies of God with death bed issues because in that horrible day, all these anti Godism stops. There is no argument whatsoever. Every dying soul on that day is now in sweat filled trepidation and in crippling fear of God. I saw it all around me.

And so the question i put to the living who still have many more years on earth is why would you live your life being an enemy of God only for you to disturb the living and God when you are on your death bed?

And worse, on that day it is even over too late. (Yes, i said it and I always say it. Anyone telling you that you can repent on your death bed is lying to you and I know we have all seen many people repenting and praying on their death beds. But let's say the Truth, did it work?

I definitely say 'No! It didn't work."

So, i put it to the living does it make any sense to live a life being an enemy of God only for you to start sweating in terrifying fear when death comes?

You deliberately use the term "enemies of God" over and over because you know it’s inflammatory.
You’re not having a calm discussion about death, old age, or suffering. You’re weaponizing a family member’s death to label non-believers as God’s enemies and threaten them with deathbed terror.
That’s not preaching. That’s straight-up hostility.

Most reasonable Christians on Nairaland don’t go around calling people who disagree with them “enemies of God.” They understand that death is already painful and frightening for everyone believers and non-believers alike without adding extra condemnation and fear-mongering on top.
You keep doing this because it’s the only way you know how to respond when someone raises honest questions about suffering or the realities of life and death. Instead of empathy, you jump to “I pity the enemies of God” and “fear God or you’ll die sweating in terror.”

This kind of language doesn’t draw people to faith. It pushes them away and makes Christianity look harsh and tribal.
Sorry for your loss, but using a family member’s death to attack “enemies of God” and declare that even deathbed repentance doesn’t work is not only unhelpful it’s actually cruel.

Stop using tragedy to score points against people who simply don’t share your beliefs. Death is hard enough without your added condemnation.!

SpyMaster1:
You deliberately use the term "enemies of God" over and over because you know it’s inflammatory.
You’re not having a calm discussion about death, old age, or suffering. You’re weaponizing a family member’s death to label non-believers as God’s enemies and threaten them with deathbed terror.
That’s not preaching. That’s straight-up hostility.

Most reasonable Christians on Nairaland don’t go around calling people who disagree with them “enemies of God.” They understand that death is already painful and frightening for everyone believers and non-believers alike without adding extra condemnation and fear-mongering on top.
You keep doing this because it’s the only way you know how to respond when someone raises honest questions about suffering or the realities of life and death. Instead of empathy, you jump to “I pity the enemies of God” and “fear God or you’ll die sweating in terror.”

This kind of language doesn’t draw people to faith. It pushes them away and makes Christianity look harsh and tribal.
Sorry for your loss, but using a family member’s death to attack “enemies of God” and declare that even deathbed repentance doesn’t work is not only unhelpful it’s actually cruel.

Stop using tragedy to score points against people who simply don’t share your beliefs. Death is hard enough without your added condemnation.!

To me, the point of any discussion is to determine which opinion is the better/best option to be used for good living. Exactly like in car talk the argument of 20w50 oil vs 5w30 oil. Argument is for the purpose of determining the better option.

However, in religion more than every other subject, people's biases are super high and they are arguing either to attack others which is what atheists primarily do or to defend their stand. Most people are not appreciating that it is about their life and death as you yourself have seen in ecclesiastes or rather they simply do not care. (But I do.)

So, in the end the argument reveals there are 2 clear groups, God lovers and God haters/enemies of God with their biases.

And, you already know as i told you before, you can never force anyone to accept an opinion even if it is most reasonable. And this is where I have no other choice but to remind them that all these arguments have to do with life and death and that there is are certain things we have already seen which is that on death beds, anti Godism stops.

And I was actually coming to raise a thread about how everyone loses their anti Godism on their death beds only for this thread to come be raised, so unfortunately for you guys, i am already all fired up.

And your problem is that i do not fulfill the stereotypes you know for i do not really preach and i am not here to "win souls". I am here only for Truth.

I am here to learn it, test it, discover it, stand for it and defend it and that is why I am always arguing here.

And since i am not trying to win souls, i am free to say the whole Truth and nothing but the Truth not caring who might be offended by it cos

"Our society strives to avoid any possibility of offending anyone – except God." — Billy Graham

So
"If the truth offends, then let it offend. People have been living their whole lives in offense to God; let them be offended for a while." — John MacArthur

SpyMaster1:
You deliberately use the term "enemies of God" over and over because you know it’s inflammatory.
You’re not having a calm discussion about death, old age, or suffering. You’re weaponizing a family member’s death to label non-believers as God’s enemies and threaten them with deathbed terror.
That’s not preaching. That’s straight-up hostility.

Most reasonable Christians on Nairaland don’t go around calling people who disagree with them “enemies of God.” They understand that death is already painful and frightening for everyone believers and non-believers alike without adding extra condemnation and fear-mongering on top.
You keep doing this because it’s the only way you know how to respond when someone raises honest questions about suffering or the realities of life and death. Instead of empathy, you jump to “I pity the enemies of God” and “fear God or you’ll die sweating in terror.”

This kind of language doesn’t draw people to faith. It pushes them away and makes Christianity look harsh and tribal.
Sorry for your loss, but using a family member’s death to attack “enemies of God” and declare that even deathbed repentance doesn’t work is not only unhelpful it’s actually cruel.

Stop using tragedy to score points against people who simply don’t share your beliefs. Death is hard enough without your added condemnation.!

Bless you for this. I could not say it better.

DeepSight:
Bless you for this. I could not say it better.

Still doesn't change the Truth i have said

"Experience does not whisper truths; it shouts them, loud enough to shatter illusions" Anonymous

So he who would not heed to wisdom shall get the whips and clubs of life and the world and I'm gonna watch and use them for an example to other young folks. Maybe one of them may be wiser

Dtruthspeaker:
To me, the point of any discussion is to determine which opinion is the better/best option to be used for good living. Exactly like in car talk the argument of 20w50 oil vs 5w30 oil. Argument is for the purpose of determining the better option.

However, in religion more than every other subject, people's biases are super high and they are arguing either to attack others which is what atheists primarily do or to defend their stand. Most people are not appreciating that it is about their life and death as you yourself have seen in ecclesiastes or rather they simply do not care. (But I do.)

So, in the end the argument reveals there are 2 clear groups, God lovers and God haters/enemies of God with their biases.

And, you already know as i told you before, you can never force anyone to accept an opinion even if it is most reasonable. And this is where I have no other choice but to remind them that all these arguments have to do with life and death and that there is are certain things we have already seen which is that on death beds, anti Godism stops.

And I was actually coming to raise a thread about how everyone loses their anti Godism on their death beds only for this thread to come be raised, so unfortunately for you guys, i am already all fired up.

And your problem is that i do not fulfill the stereotypes you know for i do not really preach and i am not here to "win souls". I am here only for Truth.

I am here to learn it, test it, discover it, stand for it and defend it and that is why I am always arguing here.

And since i am not trying to win souls, i am free to say the whole Truth and nothing but the Truth not caring who might be offended by it cos

"Our society strives to avoid any possibility of offending anyone – except God." — Billy Graham

So
"If the truth offends, then let it offend. People have been living their whole lives in offense to God; let them be offended for a while." — John MacArthur

The delusion and self-righteousness is actually impressive.

You claim you're "only here for Truth" and "not trying to win souls", yet every single time you open your mouth, you label people who disagree with you as "enemies of God" and "God haters".
That’s not "speaking the whole Truth". That’s just arrogant, tribal name-calling dressed up as boldness.

You turn a genuine discussion about the indignities of old age and the fear of death into another opportunity to attack "anti-Godism" and threaten people with deathbed terror. Then you pat yourself on the back saying "I’m only here for Truth, I don’t care who gets offended".

Bro, if you were truly here for Truth, you wouldn’t need to constantly divide people into "God lovers vs God enemies" and use a family member’s death to score points against non-believers.

You say you’re "all fired up" to start a thread about how everyone loses their "anti-Godism" on their deathbed. That’s not courage. That’s just you being obsessed with scaring people.

The "Truth" you claim to defend is mostly your own fear-driven interpretation. You hide behind "I’m only here for Truth" while refusing to engage honestly with the skeptical parts of the Bible (like most of Ecclesssiates) that doesn't fit your narrative.
If you really cared about "the better option for good living", you wouldn’t need to constantly insult and threaten people who simply don’t share your beliefs.

Keep telling yourself you’re the bold defender of Truth while everyone else is biased. The rest of us can see it for what it is.

SpyMaster1:
The delusion and self-righteousness is actually impressive.

You claim you're "only here for Truth" and "not trying to win souls", yet every single time you open your mouth, you label people who disagree with you as "enemies of God" and "God haters".
That’s not "speaking the whole Truth". That’s just arrogant, tribal name-calling dressed up as boldness.

You turn a genuine discussion about the indignities of old age and the fear of death into another opportunity to attack "anti-Godism" and threaten people with deathbed terror. Then you pat yourself on the back saying "I’m only here for Truth, I don’t care who gets offended".

Bro, if you were truly here for Truth, you wouldn’t need to constantly divide people into "God lovers vs God enemies" and use a family member’s death to score points against non-believers.

You say you’re "all fired up" to start a thread about how everyone loses their "anti-Godism" on their deathbed. That’s not courage. That’s just you being obsessed with scaring people.

The "Truth" you claim to defend is mostly your own fear-driven interpretation. You hide behind "I’m only here for Truth" while refusing to engage honestly with the skeptical parts of the Bible (like most of Ecclesssiates) that doesn't fit your narrative.
If you really cared about "the better option for good living", you wouldn’t need to constantly insult and threaten people who simply don’t share your beliefs.

Keep telling yourself you’re the bold defender of Truth while everyone else is biased. The rest of us can see it for what it is.

You say i label people who disagree with as "enemies of God" and "God haters".
Here i am on this thread and this person disagrees with me where is the label?
https://www.nairaland.com/8660762/why-god-called-almighty#139231241

Or is it this person in this threadhttps://www.nairaland.com/8655994/what-youve-been-taught-fear/1#139198204

So, you see, you are only over reacting because you are truly a God hater which you yourself have expressed being an atheist. So I have only identified who you are which is you are a God hater and I said it.

It would definitely be a lie call you a God lover, so I am in very good order as i told you there are only 2 groups of people here in religion, God lovers and God haters. And it is, what it is.

And whereas, whilst God lovers listen, consider and measure the opinions of you anti God people, you anti God people never entertain our opinions, You only see God in your bad anti God light and where we answer and correct one of your queries, you just simply move on to raise another issue raising another bad light of anti Godism.

So, you anti God people are not here for Truth but are here to get Church goers to join you in the peril of anti Godism and God enemyship.

So, it is you who is not here for Truth and so, i won't waste my time.

And on this topic i have expressed my opinion which you do not like but I don't care as all we both have to do is simply watch and see what will happen in our lives, for i love how life and living levels and destroys every argument.

"Experience does not whisper truths; it shouts them, loud enough to shatter our illusions" Anonymous

So, i am happy you disagree with me, so now let's see what life shall do to us and let us see who laments on the death bed and who dies with smiles on their faces

https://youtube.com/shorts/VVgPYC1qdR0?si=51wjeOo-oTjKWjm3

LordReed
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A little snack

DeepSight:
https://youtube.com/shorts/VVgPYC1qdR0?si=51wjeOo-oTjKWjm3

LordReed
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A little snack

Ahhh the absolutely marvellous Fry. I wish I could meet some of these people. On the subject though senescence is another baffling aspect of this whole god business.

LordReed:
Ahhh the absolutely marvellous Fry. I wish I could meet some of these people. On the subject though senescence is another baffling aspect of this whole god business.

No it isn't.
Death (and all that is wrong with the world) entered through sin. God's creation was perfect. And it will be restored. Join us .


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