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| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 6:15pm On Apr 24 |
izzou:Baba go answer call tire! But......I will always give Oyedepo a break on issues like these because unlike most with his level of influence, he has been consistently vocal about the sorry state of the nation. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 6:18pm On Apr 24 |
semid4lyfe:Timi na standup guy! |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 7:43pm On Apr 24 |
A40:I'm not a healthcare specialist but I've heard a doctor say it. Sorry for late response, just seeing this. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 8:19pm On Apr 24 |
A40:I just checked. Michael Naaa bro! Nothing when she wan tell me. Are you kidding me? I hope her husband gets a DNA done asap because that breakfast dey cook! When the story broke out and she was trying hard to explain, I knew something was off. Her previous comments about her marriage did not help either. Omo make dem two just forget about their careers. Mike is definitely losing that job, the pressure and distraction will be too much for R. Kraft and the Patriots. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 9:34pm On Apr 24 |
BlueRayDick:The reality is that Dapo is seen as an akagum while Gbenga is bùjẹ bùdànù and truly a man of the people. Many state workers employed today secured their jobs through Gbenga’s efforts. He has created multiple opportunities, especially for the youth, which is why he enjoys broad support. Dapo, on the other hand, has no notable achievements to his name, he's the "worst of the worst". The only tangible project linked to him is the airport, which was actually initiated by Gbenga Daniel. He likely wouldn’t have embarked on it if the project site weren’t in his hometown. ( even governor Ibikunle Amosun sidelined the project completely because the proposed site will not benefit his people ) Dapo political relevance has largely come from leveraging the APC’s federal influence. Without that federal backing, he would not have won a second term. He lacks grassroots support. If President Tinubu were to allow a free and fair primary election between the two without interference, Dapo would struggle to secure even 2 out of 10 votes. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by CrystalTiger(m): 9:55pm On Apr 24 |
Nigerian politicians are very lucky walai lol.. We're now at the point of doing photo ops for branded pants.. There's no low that's too low for the average Nigerian.. Line up, sew asoebi to collect branded pant from governor's wife lmao
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| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by sconp: 9:57pm On Apr 24 |
semid4lyfe:Kudos chief, this is quite commendable. Just out of curiosity, does madam contribute financially to the home (significantly)? |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:04pm On Apr 24 |
A very useless TV station. Is this professional? ![]()
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| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 10:07pm On Apr 24 |
izzou:What a caption? ![]() |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by reccy(m): 10:08pm On Apr 24 |
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| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:10pm On Apr 24 |
MorataFC:I just tire |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 11:08pm On Apr 24 |
I just stumbled on a post by a certain Danny Nsa which encapsulates what I've always believed, preached and theorized about Nigeria's music industry. Here: 👇🏼 "Nigeria decided a long time ago that noise is talent. The louder the 808, the bigger the star. So when a man steps into a room with nothing but his voice and the audacity to mean every word he sings, the industry squints at him like he arrived at the wrong party. Johnny Drille arrived at every wrong party and somehow became the most important person in the room. There is a cruelty in how Nigeria treats its finest male vocalists. Chike can make your chest hurt with a single note transition. Ric Hassani sings like a man who has loved deeply and lost beautifully and somehow made peace with both. Praiz has been carrying this conversation on his back since the 2010s, when afrobeats was still finding its feet and he was already doing things with his voice that made producers nervous. Johnny Drille writes songs the way your most emotionally intelligent friend talks, slowly, carefully, like every word costs something. These four men represent a standard of vocal excellence that most of the Nigerian mainstream has collectively agreed to ignore. And the funniest part is Nigerians know every word to their songs. They just don't want to admit it publicly. This is the strange double life of the Nigerian alternative R and B lover. In public, they are defending whatever name is currently trending. In their car at 11pm, Johnny Drille's Wait For Me is on repeat and they are having a full conversation with their ceiling about a relationship that ended in 2019. Chike's Roju has resolved more unspoken grief than therapy sessions that cost thirty thousand naira per hour. The music works. People just refuse to give it its flowers in broad daylight. What separates these men from the rest is not just technical ability, it is emotional specificity. Anybody can sing about love in the general sense. Chike sings about the particular weight of loving someone who is still figuring out whether they love you back. Ric Hassani writes romance the way old school Afro soul used to be written, with a sincerity that now feels almost rebellious in a market saturated with songs about money and women who are suspicious of both. Praiz has a rawness in his delivery that sounds like the song is happening to him in real time, not something he rehearsed. You might think these are just singers but to me they are documentarians of the human heart. The industry comparison is damning if you sit with it long enough. Nigeria celebrated Burna Boy winning a Grammy, rightfully so. But the same music culture that holds up international validation as the ultimate standard has spent years giving these men crumbs. Chike appeared on Voice Nigeria, came out as a runner up, and then built a career largely on the strength of people who heard him and could not unhear him. Just so you know, he built everything with no label machinery and no industry placement. It was just voice meeting ear and refusing to let go. That is a rare and almost unfair kind of talent. Honesty demands we also name the gap. These men are not struggling in obscurity because Nigeria has bad taste. They are navigating a streaming economy, a social media algorithm, and a cultural appetite that currently rewards energy over interiority. It is not that Nigerians cannot appreciate depth. Behind the Scenes just proved that a film with genuine emotional weight can pack cinemas and make grown men cry beside strangers. The appetite for feeling is there. Someone just needs to make it loud enough that the algorithm notices. The talent is not in question. Nigeria's priorities are. Right now Nigerians prioritize Mavo and the likes and all I can say is it is well. 🤦♂️" https://www.facebook.com/61584980522965/posts/pfbid02XsbkSvTpi4xdPf32mZYLg6P4WECkvrsCu8QSG6qaYTxrT68BgiioibZpuaA4E74Ll/ -------++-----📍----📍----📍---- Succinctly stated. Over the years I have done my part to promote these guys as much as I can. I've been following Johnny Drille since 2016, wrote lengthy blog op-eds he endorsed on Twitter in 2018/2019, joined a team of volunteer alternative music lovers who divided themselves into regional publicity teams to push his album in 2021; organizing ourselves in Telegram groups. I follow and push the works of Bez and Praiz, evangelizing to anyone and everyone to listen to their music. For Ric Hassani, we had a ragtag group of fans push his music through 2021/2022 on Twitter...until I had to stop because it was messing with my algorithm (which to be tech-heavy). These are the artistes I stream on Spotify and binge-watch in picture-in-picture mode on YouTube. I'll rather interact with Styl Plus and Jeremiah Gyang's Instagram posts than the biggest artistes out there. But we can only do so much. For the relatively few of us, it's never enough. Johnny Drille, Bez, Chike and the likes do have the repertoire to sell out stadiums...in a country which appreciates actual talents. Maybe the problem is, they do clean music in secular contexts? Three weeks ago, the Oba of Benin hosted Shallipopi in his palace, while his Chiefs sang along to the latter's songs. Shallipopi sings about fraud and has a mugshot arrested for the same crime yet the Oba validates him. Same way a Young Jonn will sooner get recognition by another southern state over a Cobhams Asuquo. I know the Oba is father to all but Johnny Drille never gets such invitation...and he's an ambassador any would be glad to have: educated, well-spoken, refined, peaceful, expresses civility and dignity in his art and life... Nigeria does treat its most talented male vocalists like dung. Sad reality. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 11:13pm On Apr 24 |
CrystalTiger:So much meme potential here From redcap geng to red pant geng. Sanitary pad alleviation program Is new Nigeria panties party an inclusive party? Why only underwear for matrons? Where are the nnpp g strings, thongs Brazilian and boyshorts underwear? Why is nnpp sharing unsexy unshiftable underwear? Are they the party of no nacking panties party? Are they taking a page from trump? Make the north great again? MNGA pants? Where is izzou former red cap maga and man about Nigeria to comment on if these pants are womb shifting compliant? Someone should send this to whoever provided these You need the youth demographic Maybe this will be a trend and we can get yes daddy bras, asiwaju boxers for the Yoruba 😈 (Asiwaju is a Yoruba word meaning "leader," "pioneer," or "frontrunner". It literally translates to "one who opens the front" or "he who goes ahead". It signifies a trailblazer, champion, or someone taking the initiative)
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| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by WhoDeyHause: 11:14pm On Apr 24*. Modified: 2:30am On Apr 25 |
CrystalTiger:If any lady I know been try enter this setting she no even suppose bother carry phone call me for this life again. Bro wetin be this? |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by WhoDeyHause: 11:27pm On Apr 24 |
raumdeuter:If na me be this your guy man opp for election once I match enter campaign ground na to tell dj make e play imole de o okunkun parada make una mind dey. Dark knight wan chop governor? Oya nau.
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| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 11:37pm On Apr 24 |
izzou:Very necessary detail which cannot be overlooked |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 11:42pm On Apr 24 |
raumdeuter:Must be Oyo area boys looking forward to the new lucrative market of harassing civilian commuters. The man entered the state and strarted directing traffic. Very clear where his priorities lie. Get him a reflective vest and a task force crew |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A40(m): 12:23am On Apr 25 |
Ibime:I just started the second part. The Fall Off Video. And I trowey salute. Elite storytelling. My favorite aspect of rap. Yeah he definitely took his time to cook this. The production, the variety and numerous ways he switched up flows, switched up cadence. As someone that always preferred Cole on features than his own full length albums this is definitely his magnum opus Makes his backing out of the Kendrick beef even more puzzling because this album clears GNX easily and he brags about how he can smoke anyone. This album clearly showed that. So why the hell did he duck the fade? Strange guy 🤷🏾♂️ |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A40(m): 12:26am On Apr 25 |
CrystalTiger:Where did we go wrong as a people? I won't put this on poverty cos there are countries and people poorer than Nigeria Is it Stockholm Syndrome or just endemic mental illness. I don't even understand |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 12:28am On Apr 25 |
A40:We know why he ducked the fade Cos Kendrick has a machine behind him, a gullible public, uses bots and has played the West coast card in the beef. You can't beef with a Ninja playing West Coast card when you only have Fayetteville card. It was not a battle about skill. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 12:40am On Apr 25 |
GloriousGbola: Ipukulu Head Coach Ibime Ayapripri Jack-Daniel has called on EFCC boss Ola Olukoyede to open an investigation into the activities of Good Kompany manager Wolfgang Raumdeuter following Wolverines ceding of their FA Cup tie to Good Kompany.i no talk am? ![]() |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A40(m): 12:45am On Apr 25 |
Ibime:My guy what machine Kendrick get wey the rest no get? They all have machine that's why they are mainstream. A guy like Phonte would go blow for blow with any of them but he has no machine Cole is the least problematic of all 3 and IMO has the most loyal followers. They would not have left him hanging if say e put body |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 12:50am On Apr 25 |
A40:You know how West Coast mindlessly ride for their coast na Invoking West Coast in a lyrical battle against Toronto or Fayetteville is cheating |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 1:21am On Apr 25 |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 1:59am On Apr 25 |
Semid4lyfe, thanks for unbanning my post. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 2:19am On Apr 25 |
Ibime:Cheating? Senior man Let it go! Each coast get him own identity and pride, it has nothing to do with your Ramsey Noah wannabe rapper. It did not start today, it is what breeds the storylines in American rap culture. Your Ramsey Noah should have stuck with singing.. What is rap music without West/ East coast pride? |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 4:39am On Apr 25 |
izzou:Na Tinubu get am and the news writer is an APC supporter What do you expect? |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by semid4lyfe(m): 6:55am On Apr 25*. Modified: 11:02am On Apr 25 |
DissTroy:DissTroy, DissTroy, DissTroy. Ore mi, how many times I call your name ![]() You cannot force your taste on everyone. No be you go decide wetin be good music, who be good/talented artiste and who Nigerians should listen to. It is called Nigerian music industry, and not Nigerian alte music industry, and different music genres and sounds dey the industry. Afrobeats, R & B (Afro R & B), Pop (Afropop), Fuji, Juju, Gospel, Highlife, Alte/indie, Amapiano, Afrosoul, Jazz, HipHop/Rap etc That all these sounds exist is a reflection of musical diversity, and how musically talented our artistes are. It's just that one sound (Afrobeats) is dominant, and appeals to the majority of youths. This phenomenon of a dominant genre exists everywhere there's a plurality of sounds. Even Yankee. I(t's the reason the Country Music Awards exists over there cos they felt their music genre was being relegated.) Now, the idea that Nigeria ignores vocalists is not true. People like Johnny Drille, Ric Hassani, Chike, Brymo, Praiz , Bez etc are not unknown underground artistes. I doubt there's anyone here who does not know them. They have loyal fanbases, sell out shows and have decent streaming numbers. It's just that they've chosen a defined lane, and stuck with it mostly. These aristes also have cross over appeal, and have featured in some of the biggest Nigerian tunes. Chike was in running with Simi, and Egwu with Mohbad. Brymo was in Ice Prince's oleku, Ric Hassanii Thinder fire you is popular. He also has a song with Portable. Johnny Drille's How are you is a big crossover tune. The same Johnny Drille probably has the best family oriented music show in Nigeria with his Johnny's Room Live which is always sold out and well attended. So they are known and well recognized in the industry. DO NOT CONFUSE THEIR NON-DOMINANT MUSIC GENRE with them being undervalued. Now Afrobeats like the name implies is a beats heavy, rhythmic, groovy and extremely danceable music genre. (Same with Amapiano). It resonates with the youths, has blown, and gotten virality in a globalized world dominated by social media. A song blowing depends on its beat, "sweetness" of the hook/chorus, "vibeability" and not the popularity of the artiste. Its the reason the Afrobeats genre has so many one-hit wonders e.g, Chella - My darling, Goya Menor - ameno, Olakira - in my maserati, Fido - joy is coming etc. and many others artistes who have fallen off. Coincidentally, its the reason I respect our big three cos they've remained relevant for decades which is not an easy thing to do in the Afrobeats music space. I don dey ramble, back to the topic. Afrobeats, is being carried by groove, beats, identity and global positioning. So expecting pure vocalists to dominate the beat-driven ecosystem is like expecting Enya to top the HipHop/R & B charts. You sef check am, our big 5 - Wizkid, Davido, Burna, Rhema and Asake, ....how many of dem sabi sing, as in vocal dexterity? Therein lies your answer. Another point, Nigerians don't hate depth. We just have a preference for music that fits our daily reality. Country is hard, economy is bitting, money no dey, people dey hustle and are stressed. We need music that will lift our mood fast and get us bopping. Whether in the home, street, car, parties or club. To quote the legendary Sir Shina Peters,,"dance dance, dance and forget your sorrows". Nobody get time to siddon dey listen to love/spiritual song done over acoustic guitar, and analyze lyrics to decipher the meaning like Brymo dey sing. Biko, no stress me. ![]() By the way, the 11pm Johnny Drille on repeat point actually contradicts your main point. It shows segmentation and time-based consumption pattern of music. In the daytime and in public, Nigerians prefer high energy, vibeable songs. At night and in private, na slow tempo introspective songs we dey play, which is logical. Bottom line, both exist and are consumed, just in different ways. On the industry being cruel. Na so life be. If anything, the alte artists have done well because they carved a niche for themselves. (Talking about niche, shey you see how Isegun Johnson carved a niche for himself with his Owambe hyping genre of music?). Not every artiste wants to be everywhere, and lots of peeps including me respect them for that. And please, the loud afrobeats artists do not lack skill or intention. Making a hit song that blows requires talent and a lot of hard work. From choosing the right producer, beat selection, layering the lyrics on the beat, the hook/chorus, mixing etc. E no easy. Lastly, real music no get universal definition. I fit no like wetin you like, and you fit no like wetin I like. Rather, J'll say all music is real music. The Afrobeats artistes are just doing the dominant music type, and excelling at it. Again, Nigerian music is diverse, and many sounds dey. Each music genre get stars, and audience. The vocalists and deep alte singers are respected and appreciated, they are just operating in a lane that will never be the dominant and loudest. And that's fine. No dey push unnecessary agenda, or talk down other artistes to promote your musical preference. I rest my fingers....... |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by KingTom(m): 7:39am On Apr 25 |
Pata Gigan CrystalTiger: |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 9:25am On Apr 25 |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 10:11am On Apr 25 |
Semid4lyfe, from your post you proved what I have always suspected – you have a 'weird' taste in music too like me. You even follow Johnny's Room Live? Only real fans get up to speed with him at that level. Great! It's unfair to lump Burna Boy and Wizkid with the horde of talentless, producer-assisted artistes so I won't do it. I suppose I just want to see artistes like Johnny Drille at the very least enjoy the same commercial success as the others. Johnny is who I rate as highly as Jon Bellion and The Weeknd, and his covers of their songs during the Lockdown will make you ditch the original. Case in point, his cover of Jon Bellion's "All Time Low" during the Lockdown will give you goosebumps. He can hold the crowd and audience as much as Passenger does. I'm glad Tems made it out and gets appreciated by a global audience for her talent. I wish Johnny made it out. I wish Praiz made it out in 2014 before it was too late, banking on his out-of-this-world cover of Rihanna's "Stay" (which is better than the original, in my opinion). I wish Blessing Tangban (who has one of the purest, delicate vocals you'll ever hear) made it out yet she rots in near obscurity. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 10:41am On Apr 25 |
GloriousGbola:Never heard of her. Will check later |
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Naaa bro! Nothing when she wan tell me. Are you kidding me? I hope her husband gets a DNA done asap because that breakfast dey cook! 