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My Question:
3. Do you concur that Allah created the Greatness Illusion in history: he made Jesus to Appear to the Jews, Romans, the Apostles of Jesus, the Mother of Jesus and the Disciples of Jesus on the Cross. The Disciples of Jesus even buried him and in their presence Jesus was taken up to heaven.
Can you explain
a. To what end was this illusion?

AntiChristian:
In Islam, it is believed that Jesus (Isa, peace be upon him) was not crucified but was raised up by Allah. The Qur’an states:
"They did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but it was made to appear so to them." (Qur’an 4:157)
The purpose was to protect Jesus from harm and to fulfill Allah’s divine plan. John the Baptist and Jesus should have been saved likewise in the Bible despite the many miracles from their God!

So, Allah didn't know that he could take Jesus to himself in the presence of all the Jews and Christians without doing the drama of crucifixion!?

Thanks to the needless drama, almost 3 billion humans are Christians.

Didn't Allah think of the consequences of his action?

And come to think of it: The Allah that saved Jesus from death allowed his most beloved and last Khātam aNabiyyīn to be unalived by a Jewish woman who gave him sweet food? Dis Alhabibi died in painful and serious agony!

Sahih al-Bukhari 4428
Narrated `Aisha:
The Prophet (ﷺ) in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O `Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that unaliving thing ."

BTW: What was Allah's devine plan here?
Was it to create a religion called Christianity?


My Question:
b. In who's presence was Jesus taken to heaven?

AntiChristian:
Jesus was raised up by Allah in the presence of his followers and witnesses, as a miraculous event beyond human comprehension.

Can you give me any Islamic evidence of this?
You are manufacturing answers that are Islamically wrong!
Talk is cheap!

So, why did All the disciples of Jesus thought that He was crucified and buried?

Your answer is different from their records sir!


My Question:
c. Why was it necessary for Allah to deceive Mary the mother of Jesus, the Apostles of Jesus and the Disciples of Jesus that He was crucified on the cross?

AntiChristian:
Islamic belief does not say Allah deceived Mary or the disciples but that the appearance of crucifixion was a divine protection. The exact nature of this event is a matter of divine wisdom beyond human full understanding. Allah does not need to explain anyone's destiny to any of His creations! Mary is a creation of Allah as well as others! And the crucifixtion does not in any way stop them from their being Muslims since they follow Injeel and Jesus!

Confess that you don't have any answer!

Let me show you what John the Disciple of Jesus wrote

John 19:25-27:
"Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother , and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene. When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he said to his mother, Woman, behold your son! Then said he to the disciple, Behold your mother! And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home."

So, again
Why was it necessary for Allah to deceive Mary the mother of Jesus, the Apostles of Jesus and the Disciples of Jesus that He was crucified on the cross?



My Question:
d. Why did Allah wait 600 years to try to explain the illusion he himself as the AllMakrunah caused to create Christianity?

AntiChristian:
The message of Islam, including the clarification about Jesus, was revealed through Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) as the final messenger, completing the previous messages. That's Allah plan to determine when His message and messengers are sent. It's like asking you why wasn't Jesus sent earlier to Israel so that more people could be saved? Or why must Jesus die?

This was not the Question:
Dont forget that you untruthfully said without evidence that (according to your knowledge of Islam) Jesus was taken to Allah in the presence of His Disciples.

This is contrary to the historical events as you well know. If Jesus was saved,
a. Why were the the disciples still afraid?
b. Why did they stop being afraid after they saw the resurrected Christ?
c. Why did almost all of them died violent deaths preaching that Jesus was crucified and rose from the dead?

Is it not logical for them to mock the Jews and the Romans claiming:
" Shame on you: You couldn't kill our Jesus!"

My Question:
e. Who was the real person Allah placed on the cross?

AntiChristian:
Islamic teachings do not specify who was on the cross but emphasize that Jesus was not crucified.

Of course as Usual of Islam: NO ANSWER!
Most probably Allah wasnt even aware of this and then the whole ummah is confused.

But someone was on the Cross isn't it?

Doesn't it prove that your God is UNJUST because He put an innocent man that shouldn't be killed on the cross to satisfy his nature as Miss director?

Is it untrue that some of your scholars (divided in opinion as usual) said the one on the cross was
a. Judas
b. John
c. Joseph
d. The youngest disciple of Jesus
e. the Disciple who loved Jesus the most

My Question:
a. Can you explain why it makes sense that Jesus who had been with Allah in the last 2000 years will return to complete an unfinished mission and die as a Muslim following Mohammed?
As usual, I expect your rambling as Islam doesn't have ANY answers to their baseless claims from the coven of shaitanians!

AntiChristian:
In Islam, Jesus’ second coming is a core belief. He will return to restore justice, defeat falsehood, and affirm the message of monotheism. He will follow the teachings of Muhammad, submitting to Allah fully, which aligns with the meaning of being a Muslim (one who submits to Allah).
This fulfills the prophecy and completes the divine plan.

I did not ask you for your core beliefs , I asked for evidences of your answers .
Can you show that Jesus first coming included all these things you mentioned before the Jews almost unalived Him?

Can you explain why it makes sense that Jesus who had been with Allah in the last 2000 years will return to complete an unfinished mission and die as a Muslim following Mohammed?

You think to high of your self
Allah praying on Mohammed
All the Angels praying on Mohammed
All Muslims, praying for Mohammed

Now Jesus will JOIN the Muslims to Pray for Mohammed!?

And this splitter of fictional moons is one of the wicked Arabian men!?

AntiisIam:
Expanse2020 wey be say you will ask him A, na D he will be telling you

I tell you
The guy behave like someone haunted.. and really Muslims lived a haunted life

1.Every night the devil urinate in the ears
2.A black dog is more powerful than angel that can hinder prayers and angels
3. DEMONS waiting for them in the toilet
4.the right foot must be outside when coming out because of demons.
5. Let me stop here
Expanse2020

BlackfireX:


I tell you
The guy behave like someone haunted.. and really Muslims lived a haunted life

1.Every night the devil urinate in the ears
2.A black dog is more powerful than angel that can hinder prayers and angels
3. DEMONS waiting for them in the toilet
4.the right foot must be outside when coming out because of demons.
5. Let me stop here
Expanse2020

Expanse2020 won't you call on your second doffman dofman to help you out on this matter

AntiisIam:
won't you call on your second to help you out on this matter

You are suffering already . Nairaland will kpai u seh 🤣🤣

doffman:
You are suffering already . Nairaland will kpai u seh 🤣🤣

dẹpẹ, help your second in answering the question wey dem ask him so as to know who is suffering between you and him?

AntiisIam:
dẹpẹ, help your second in answering the question wey dem ask him so as to know who is suffering between you and him?

I like it like that , you will kpai here seh 🤣

doffman:
I like it like that , you will kpai here seh 🤣

Sufu, to help your second now na Haram abi?

AntiisIam:
Sufu, to help your second now na Haram abi?

Kininwi bayi . You are finish seh

AntiisIam:
Sufu, to help your second now na Haram abi?

He has already finished you nah . Cry o

doffman:
He has already finished you nah . Cry o

Sebi you can read and comprehend?

Wey your second self, he is no where to be found again

doffman:
Kininwi bayi . You are finish seh

Lo bere lowo chief imam e inside your ahamo in Libya

Did it pain you after I showed your family God behind your back

AntiisIam:
Is that your olori ebi and his wife?

This is what Bible says

Expanse2020:
Did it pain you after I showed your family God behind your back

You are only showing your olori ebi and his wife

AntiisIam:
Sebi you can read and comprehend?

Wey your second self, he is no where to be found again

He has finished you already . Case close . Pele

dofman:
He has finished you already . Case close . Pele

dẹpẹ, as you can see, he no dey talk for here again. Na him olori ebi and his wife he com dey show us

AntiisIam:
Sufu, to help your second now na Haram abi?

We wil not miss you . Just kpaid first nah 🤣🤣

dofman:
We wil not miss you . Just kpaid first nah 🤣🤣

Dẹpẹ, shey na like dis you sha wan take abandon your second abi

AntiisIam:
Dẹpẹ, shey na like dis you sha wan take abandon your second abi

I like seeing you crying . You are being giving wotowoto by him . Pele

dofman:
He has finished you already . Case close . Pele

Hehehehehe

Person wey be say he no no wetin to talk again showing his olori ebi and his wife. Dẹpẹ, no abandon your second just because you were abandoned for Libya

dofman:
I like seeing you crying . You are being giving wotowoto by him . Pele

Ahahahaha

Dẹpẹ, wetin I dey talk wetin you dey type again

AntiisIam:
dẹpẹ, as you can see, he no dey talk for here again. Na him olori ebi and his wife he com dey show us

Face him nah , why are you crying to me nah 🤣🤣🤣🤣

dofman:
Face him nah , why are you crying to me nah 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Lobatan

AntiisIam:
You are only showing your olori ebi and his wife

Na your paaapaaa and Marley bíi dis e 🤣🤣🤣

Expanse2020:
Na your paaapaaa and Marley bíi dis e 🤣🤣🤣

That is your olori ebi and his wife, you kuku no denial am. Chigiidi family ẹ niyen at the background dẹpẹ