₦airaland Forum

Jangbajantis:
Loolz!! That “Trump fart” line is exactly the level of argument I expected once logic runs out.
But let’s stay on facts, not vibes.

If you believe Iran’s behaviour in the Strait was just peaceful “status quo,” then you’re basically asking everyone else to ignore seizures, threats, and repeated military posturing just because it didn’t inconvenience your narrative.

And no, nobody is saying “Trump can do no wrong.” That’s just a lazy strawman when you can’t actually challenge the point being made.
You don’t have to like US policy, but calling every counter-move “thoughtless” while pretending Iran was harmless before it all started isn’t analysis. It’s bias with attitude. Not that I expected better from a "moderate Muslim". Smh

Kemetian:
SHUT UP THERE.

SUPPORTER OF "MADNESS".

SUPPORTER OF ILLEGAL, CRIMINAL, BARBARIC, UNPROVOKED ATTACKS ON OTHER NATIONS.

TRUMP'S BLOCKADE OF THE STRAIT IS BLOCKING FERTILISERS DESTINED FOR NIGERIA AND THE REST OF THE WORLD.

BY CHEERING HIS ACTIONS, YOU ARE CHEERING YOUR OWN DEMISE IN 3 MONTHS TIME WHEN ALL THIS "MADNESS" YOU'RE CHEERING STARTS TO HIT HOME IN THE FORM OF FAMINE, STARVATION AND MALNUTRITION, WHICH THE UN IS NOW PREDICTING.

THE BLOOD OF THE THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT IRANIAN CIVILIANS SLAUGHTERED BY TRUMP AND HIS GANG OF MASS MURDERERS, INCLUDING THOSE 200 SCHOOLGIRLS AGED 7 YRS ON AVERAGE, lS ON YOUR HEADS.

YOU WILL ALL CONTINUE TO SUFFER THE ECONOMIC PAIN THAT WILL COME FROM YOUR SUPPORT OF GENOCIDE, INCLUDING THE GENOCIDE IN GAZA, WHICH YOU SUPPORT.

WHEN YOU SUPPORT THE SLAUGHTER OF INNOCENT CIVILIANS, KARMA WILL SEND THEIR MISFORTUNE BACK TO YOU, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

brain54:
The blockade really got Iran by the balls...


They really didn't see that one coming.


Watch trump do shakara and make a big mountain of this!

timilehin007:
Pained terrorist 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

Kemetian:
YOU ARE CLEARLY A FANATIC.

PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE THE PROBLEM WE HAVE ON THIS EARTH.

PEOPLE OF LOW INTELLIGENCE WHO COMMIT GENOCIDE ON GOD'S CREATION OUT OF HATRED AND PREJUDUCE.

YOU WILL PAY THE PRICE.

Kemetian:
SHUT UP THERE.

SUPPORTER OF "MADNESS".

SUPPORTER OF ILLEGAL, CRIMINAL, BARBARIC, UNPROVOKED ATTACKS ON OTHER NATIONS.

TRUMP'S BLOCKADE OF THE STRAIT IS BLOCKING FERTILISERS DESTINED FOR NIGERIA AND THE REST OF THE WORLD.

BY CHEERING HIS ACTIONS, YOU ARE CHEERING YOUR OWN DEMISE IN 3 MONTHS TIME WHEN ALL THIS "MADNESS" YOU'RE CHEERING STARTS TO HIT HOME IN THE FORM OF FAMINE, STARVATION AND MALNUTRITION, WHICH THE UN IS NOW PREDICTING.

THE BLOOD OF THE THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT IRANIAN CIVILIANS SLAUGHTERED BY TRUMP AND HIS GANG OF MASS MURDERERS, INCLUDING THOSE 200 SCHOOLGIRLS AGED 7 YRS ON AVERAGE, lS ON YOUR HEADS.

YOU WILL ALL CONTINUE TO SUFFER THE ECONOMIC PAIN THAT WILL COME FROM YOUR SUPPORT OF GENOCIDE, INCLUDING THE GENOCIDE IN GAZA, WHICH YOU SUPPORT.

WHEN YOU SUPPORT THE SLAUGHTER OF INNOCENT CIVILIANS, KARMA WILL SEND THEIR MISFORTUNE BACK TO YOU, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

uncleinans:
How about the blood of thousands of innocent iranian people killed by the Iranian regime, whose hands will their blood be on? Your hand and that of the regime right?

When Iran closed the strait and we were all suffering fuel increase what did you say hypocrite?

God bless Trump and Benjamin for their good work.

This game, two can play.

oroje1:
This one choke am!!!!!! Eyaaaaaaaa

Kemetian:
SHUT UP THERE AND STOP CALLING ARABS DEFENDING THEIR LAND, TERRORISTS.

GET OUT OF THEIR LANDS AND THEY WILL NOT "TERRORIZE" YOU.

Michaelajah:
call me what you want bro, I don't give a bleep.

DeepSight:
I am not Muslim. I am not even religious at all and I despise Abrahamic religions. All of them. Except whatever bit of them advocates love and brotherhood. Stop making assumptions.

Secondly I said the US blockage was a good tactical move in the circumstances. I am just pointing out that the entire circumstance is self inflicted to start with.

Of course you will not even avert your mind to the fact that this attack was launched in the middle of negotiations and it was the second time in less than a year that the US is doing that in the middle of negotiations.

Far be it from you to see that what the US is now trying to achieve is something they already had with the JCPOA which Trump tore up.

And oh no, it would be beyond you for us to delve into history and see what the US has done in Iran since the fifties before the Shah.

DeOTR:
Same way fooolaaani terrorists are also fighting for their Land in Nigeria abi? E be like say something dey worry your brain abi?

Jangbajantis:
You’re not actually arguing the Strait anymore? You’re stacking grievances from every era and calling it one explanation. Is that it?

Ok, let’s separate it properly.
Yes, US–Iran history is messy. No one is denying that. But using the 1950s, the Shah, JCPOA, and present negotiations as one continuous moral blame chain doesn’t answer the current question. It just avoids it.

On JCPOA: it was a deal, not a permanent peace certificate. Even under it, there were disputes over compliance, regional activity, and verification limits. So saying “they already had it” is not accurate. They had a conditional, contested arrangement, not a final settlement.

On negotiations being “interrupted”...swell point, but you’re acting like this is unique to the US. In reality, international negotiations are constantly shaped by pressure, positioning, and signalling from all sides.

That’s how leverage works. It has never been not a polite classroom discussion lol!

And most importantly, none of that changes the fact that the Strait issue is about control and deterrence in real time, not historical blame scoring.

If your entire argument only works by zooming out so far that present actions become invisible, then you’re not critiquing policy, then you’re just dissolving responsibility into history until nothing can be analysed anymore.

Nnamdini:
Strait Of Hormuz will be the next big movie 🎥 in Hollywood depicting an area famous for an infamous war

Kemetian:
THE ARABS ARE ON THEIR LAND.

THE ISRAELIS ARE WHITE INVADERS FROM EUROPE WHO HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AND FALSELY AND BLASPHEMOUSLY CALLING THEMSELVES ''GOD'S CHOSEN''.

SAME AS THE AMERICANS.

IMPERIALIST INVADERS AND THIEVES WHO NEED TO GET OUT FROM THERE AND GO BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM.

DeepSight:
Thank you, but my argument was simple and brief, namely that whatever is being gained in terms of the opening of the strait would not be something that didnt exist or wasn't already the case before the war was launched.

Simple. And indubitable. Iron cast.

As to the history, I only touched on it because it was becoming clear the school of thought you come from. That very one sided school which only sees things from a certain Western oriented lens only.

Jangbajantis:
“Simple” and “iron cast” don’t make it true.
Your whole argument assumes an open strait under threats and coercion is the same as an open strait under deterrence and reduced leverage. And I'm saying it isn’t.

So yes, ships passing before and after can look the same on the surface, while the strategic reality is completely different.

And the “Western lens” line is tired. Some of us can criticise both the US and Iran. But in the case of Iran, some people suddenly become blind to intimidation, hostage politics, and years of using the strait as leverage. That selective outrage is the real bias.

Kemetian:
SHUT UP THERE.

SUPPORTER OF "MADNESS".

SUPPORTER OF ILLEGAL, CRIMINAL, BARBARIC, UNPROVOKED ATTACKS ON OTHER NATIONS.

TRUMP'S BLOCKADE OF THE STRAIT IS BLOCKING FERTILISERS DESTINED FOR NIGERIA AND THE REST OF THE WORLD.

BY CHEERING HIS ACTIONS, YOU ARE CHEERING YOUR OWN DEMISE IN 3 MONTHS TIME WHEN ALL THIS "MADNESS" YOU'RE CHEERING STARTS TO HIT HOME IN THE FORM OF FAMINE, STARVATION AND MALNUTRITION, WHICH THE UN IS NOW PREDICTING.

THE BLOOD OF THE THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT IRANIAN CIVILIANS SLAUGHTERED BY TRUMP AND HIS GANG OF MASS MURDERERS, INCLUDING THOSE 200 SCHOOLGIRLS AGED 7 YRS ON AVERAGE, lS ON YOUR HEADS.

YOU WILL ALL CONTINUE TO SUFFER THE ECONOMIC PAIN THAT WILL COME FROM YOUR SUPPORT OF GENOCIDE, INCLUDING THE GENOCIDE IN GAZA, WHICH YOU SUPPORT.

WHEN YOU SUPPORT THE SLAUGHTER OF INNOCENT CIVILIANS, KARMA WILL SEND THEIR MISFORTUNE BACK TO YOU, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

yarimo:
since he abandoned that princeOflagos account to LagosOrigin The boy is just posting rubbish

MrFly:
Fertilizers that will be used as campaign gifts? Let the blockade continue, I enjoy what the US are doing, demise indeed! Are we really alive in Nigeria with this evil government?

Macphenson:
Honestly sometimes it takes madness to stop madness. Trump blocking Iranian ports is more effective than throwing bombs on them.
In their entire existence Iran will never think of holding the global community hostage again by blocking the strait of Hormuz. Trump just showed the world the antidote to their madness.

Kemetian:
SHUT UP THERE.

SUPPORTER OF "MADNESS".

SUPPORTER OF ILLEGAL, CRIMINAL, BARBARIC, UNPROVOKED ATTACKS ON OTHER NATIONS.

TRUMP'S BLOCKADE OF THE STRAIT IS BLOCKING FERTILISERS DESTINED FOR NIGERIA AND THE REST OF THE WORLD.

BY CHEERING HIS ACTIONS, YOU ARE CHEERING YOUR OWN DEMISE IN 3 MONTHS TIME WHEN ALL THIS "MADNESS" YOU'RE CHEERING STARTS TO HIT HOME IN THE FORM OF FAMINE, STARVATION AND MALNUTRITION, WHICH THE UN IS NOW PREDICTING.

THE BLOOD OF THE THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT IRANIAN CIVILIANS SLAUGHTERED BY TRUMP AND HIS GANG OF MASS MURDERERS, INCLUDING THOSE 200 SCHOOLGIRLS AGED 7 YRS ON AVERAGE, lS ON YOUR HEADS.

YOU WILL ALL CONTINUE TO SUFFER THE ECONOMIC PAIN THAT WILL COME FROM YOUR SUPPORT OF GENOCIDE, INCLUDING THE GENOCIDE IN GAZA, WHICH YOU SUPPORT.

WHEN YOU SUPPORT THE SLAUGHTER OF INNOCENT CIVILIANS, KARMA WILL SEND THEIR MISFORTUNE BACK TO YOU, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

MrFly:
You know a terror kingpin by his submissions....pained soul