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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by PDPGuy: 4:05pm On May 03
I’m sure this piece by David Hundeyin would resonate with most of us here 😅





“The basic issue with P.O. is the same issue I had until 2024 - he refuses to acknowledge that his platform is fundamentally anti-imperial. The idea of moving Africa's largest population "from consumption to production" is a fundamentally anti-imperialism idea.

The existence of Nigeria as a consumer-import-dependent, natural resource exporter that spends resource export revenues on imported finished goods without having an industrial base to manufacture its own, is not an accident of "poor leadership" - it is the direct goal of neo-colonialism.

When instead of manufacturing goods, Nigeria instead haemorrhages its natural resources and human talent, and only receives some insufficient USD resource rents in return, this ensured that Nigeria and its African contemporaries remain artificially poor, while people who live in places where for 6 months every year, the ground freezes solid and daily sunshine is only 5 hours, remain artificially wealthy.

That is the core of the Euro-American imperial system. The military branch of this imperial system is called NATO. The governance/policy arms are called IMF/World Bank. The economic arm is called WTO. The academic/social arms are the Foundations, NGOs, policy research institutes and universities. This is what P.O. is actually up against.

So if P.O. says he wants to "move Nigeria from consumption to production", it is the same thing as declaring war on Europe, its sugar daddy in Washington, and its spiritual leader in Tel-Aviv. And if you're going to do that, you need to be fully locked in, and you need to be prepared to lose everything of yours that is under the empire's control.

I finally realised this in June 2024, and that's why I quit my £40,000/year project management job in Newcastle, packed up all my shit, withdrew all my money, gave up my 5-year UK visa, and bought a 1-way ticket back to Accra. As I am now, if and when I end up in a position of power, there is zero leverage that any white man anywhere on earth can use to blackmail me into maintaining this imperial system. I don't have property in their countries. I don't have money in their banking systems. I don't have children in their schools and universities. The most they can do is ban me from their social media.

P.O. does not want to do the same. His children are comfortable and integrated pseudo-westerners. He has property in the UK. He has money in their banks. He enjoys that regular suite at the Hilton Paddington too much. He's trying to run on a revolutionary, anti-imperialist platform while pretending that he is a friend of the Western world who doesn't want to pick a fight with them.

The problem with this is that oyibo people don't play those games. These people murdered Patrice Lumumba over a speech. You might not see yourself as their enemy, but they DEFINITELY know on what side their bread is buttered, and they know that a Nigeria where ships berth everyday, offload consumer goods, and sail away only with natural resources or empty, is a Nigeria that remains strategically poor and profitable to their empire.

They KNOW that a Nigeria under Peter Obi where education and health are properly funded, where Chinese-inspired industrial policy is enacted, where railways and steel production move to the top of national priority, and where those ships eventually start sailing from Nigeria laden with manufactured goods for export to the world, is the Nigeria that will destroy their entire parasitic way of life.

And I'm sure P.O. knows this too, but he's invested in pretending that he can play both sides, the same way Patrice Lumumba wasted valuable time doing "I am not a Communist" and trying to play nice with the same people until they killed his ass, dissolved him in sulphuric acid, and kept his gold tooth as a souvenir.

That's why I've moved on from the Obidient thing. Both he and his supporters don't know what they want and I'm exhausted.

Even his Bible says "How long will you be limping between two opinions?"
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 4:06pm On May 03
This guy is right after all
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Sportsweb: 4:09pm On May 03
Like you said they are paying to get caterers cook meals in bulk for them. They have the money for that..
BlueRayDick:
It's actually not funny.

When I was in the university I was on the streets hustling to keep body and soul together and cater for my immediate needs as a guy. One of the hustles I engage in was working with caterers either as cooking help, waiter/server at functions and disher(the guy who dishes food which servers/waiters take to guests on their seats)

I worked with a particular caterer who has a gig which she does for some of her clients on quarterly basis. At least I remember going with her on 3 different ocassions.

The caterer is contracted to cook large portion of soups ( efo riro, egusi, ogbono, ewedu, ọfàda sauce, and buka stew), porridge, jollof rice, fried rice and diferrent protein types(turkey, full goat meat, half cow, fish and even snail).

The food are portioned in different sizes and stored in the fridge and freezers. Anytime they want to eat swallow, they will bring out preferred soup, microwave it and turn their desired swallow within the next 3 months.

I doubt the woman of that family have any reason to cook for the next 3 months before the caterer comes in to cook another batch.

These are well to do families living in some of the coolest estates in Lagos mainland. Nothing suggests those families are not happy whether the wife cooks or not.

Since yesterday I've just been laughing seeing people arguing as if there are no rich people who don't cook inside that Redeemed church where Adeboye made the statement. It's not like his statement will scatter their marriage that has survived test of time despite the woman of the house not cooking.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 4:13pm On May 03
iamoyindamola:
This guy is right after all
The age long cry of my Oga is using me and giving me peanuts.

If he's dissatisfied with what he negotiated and got prior to entering the ring he should setup his own thing, afterall according to him na im start celebrity boxing for Naija grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:14pm On May 03
MorataFC:
Those are already-made, high-net-worth families. They didn’t start life like that. Many of them built their wealth first, succeeded in business or career, and then outsourced domestic tasks like bulk cooking. By the time they reached that level, their marriages had already survived the early years when money was tighter.


But the man was speaking to young men preparing to start a family, especially those one operating on Nigeria's salary wages structures, so using these elite households as your reference point is misleading. How many Nigerians man can start his life with that examples?
The ratio of families who can comfortably afford consistent, quality quarterly catering like what you posted here versus those who cannot is probably 1:10,000 or even lower in Nigeria today.( These are the ones the man is talking to)
When you are just starting out, with rent, bills, school fees (when children arrive), and the general cost of living, constant outsourcing is not sustainable. You cannot build the foundation of your marriage on a lifestyle that only becomes feasible after you have “made it.” That is his advuce.

The crucial point people miss in this Pasror Adeboye’s advice is,
He wasn’t speaking to the Billionaires who live in Ikoyi or Banana Island. He was speaking to the millions of young men in the congregation who are still trying to build something real from the ground up,( which are made of 90-95% of men who want to marry) .
Who told you anything about being extremely wealthy or having to build their wealth before they can do bulk cooking?

I'm talking about couples in their thirties who are extremely wealthy but have good jobs that can allow them enjoy what others call luxury as necessity.

See Adeboye's tall is his personal opinion which is highly subjective. A 28 year old graduate who works with Shell will be fooolish not to marry his beloved fiance who works with PWC because She can't/won't cook when there's option of batch cooking which their income can afford them.

There's nothing wrong in marrying a woman who can't cook once it's the joint decision of the man and woman to go ahead with the marriage. They can always arrangements like batch cooking take care of that.

Batch cooking doesn't mean you are a multi-billionaire. The cost of batch cooking is nkt even up to some people's quarterly bonus and they are not even rich rich like that
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 4:17pm On May 03
Theflint1:
The age long cry of my Oga is using me and giving me peanuts.

If he's dissatisfied with what he negotiated and got prior to entering the ring he should setup his own thing, afterall according to him na im start celebrity boxing for Naija grin
That's not what he's saying
I guess he wants recognition not looking at him like Sango tout, although he over do it too
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:19pm On May 03
Sportsweb:
Like you said they are paying to get caterers cook meals in bulk for them. They have the money for that..
Na normal funds for people wey get good work na
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:21pm On May 03
Sportsweb:
Like you said they are paying to get caterers cook meals in bulk for them. They have the money for that..
Yeah,so you see that's why not knowing how too cook does not necessarily need to be a deal breaker.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 4:24pm On May 03
BlueRayDick:
Yeah,so you see that's why not knowing how too cook does not necessarily need to be a deal breaker.
Like how much would typically go for that sort of expense, say for a family of five.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 4:26pm On May 03
Can we start campaigning for Atiku 2031?

I would like to lead the team here.

I am game, if that's okay with Atiku's fanboys
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 4:47pm On May 03
BlueRayDick:
Yeah,so you see that's why not knowing how too cook does not necessarily need to be a deal breaker.
Batch cooking in Nigeria? How many households can afford that?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:49pm On May 03
izzou:
Can we start campaigning for Atiku 2031?

I would like to lead the team here.

I am game, if that's okay with Atiku's fanboys
Lets sort out Asiwaju 2027 first then we can do Atiku 2031
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 4:49pm On May 03
BlueRayDick:
Who told you anything about being extremely wealthy or having to build their wealth before they can do bulk cooking?

I'm talking about couples in their thirties who are extremely wealthy but have good jobs that can allow them enjoy what others call luxury as necessity.

See Adeboye's tall is his personal opinion which is highly subjective. A 28 year old graduate who works with Shell will be fooolish not to marry his beloved fiance who works with PWC because She can't/won't cook when there's option of batch cooking which their income can afford them.

There's nothing wrong in marrying a woman who can't cook once it's the joint decision of the man and woman to go ahead with the marriage. They can always arrangements like batch cooking take care of that.

Batch cooking doesn't mean you are a multi-billionaire. The cost of batch cooking is nkt even up to some people's quarterly bonus and they are not even rich rich like that
This is where you are getting it wrong. The man is not talking about the few men working in Shell or similar top-tier companies, who represent an extremely small fraction of Nigerian youths, probably not even up to 0.000001%. He is speaking to the vast majority of young men who are just employed within the normal salary structure, often earning less than ₦200k per month and still trying to build a foundation for family life.
The point of his advice is grounded in that everyday reality, not in the lifestyle of a rare, high-income minority. When you shift the reference point to elite earners, you end up distorting the message and making it irrelevant to the people it was originally meant to guide.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 4:55pm On May 03
Jamiuokolaa:
If Obi had aligned with Atiku as running mate, I think they would have defeated Tinubu in 2023.

P.O as VP in 2023 would have positioned him better for Presidency next year or 2031.
If Akitu hadn't been self centred, allowed power return to South by supporting Obi, maybe Nigeria will be in far better hands right now.

Akitu with structure and Governors pooled 6m votes.

Obi without structure and Governors pooled 6m declared votes, add the stolen Rivers and Lagos votes and he would be president today.

It is very clear Atiku should have shelved his ambition and support Peter Obi in 2023.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:58pm On May 03
MorataFC:
This is where you are getting it wrong. The man is not talking about the few men working in Shell or similar top-tier companies, who represent an extremely small fraction of Nigerian youths, probably not even up to 0.000001%. He is speaking to the vast majority of young men who are just employed within the normal salary structure, often earning less than ₦200k per month and still trying to build a foundation for family life.
The point of his advice is grounded in that everyday reality, not in the lifestyle of a rare, high-income minority. When you shift the reference point to elite earners, you end up distorting the message and making it irrelevant to the people it was originally meant to guide.
You are the one who is getting it wrong in your bid to defend Adebaye. If he's a pastor to all members of the congregation Irrespective of their class in the society, their income level and social status, then he shouldn't be making such absolute statements.

He should not be saying as a young man don't marry a woman who cannot cook.

Since we've all agreed tha there are indeed some strata of his congregation that can afford to marry a woman who cannot cook and still have a wonderful married life, it shouldn't be difficult for you to see how subjective his personal opinion is on the matter.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 4:58pm On May 03
TrebleChamp:
If Akitu hadn't been self centred, allowed power return to South by supporting Obi, maybe Nigeria will be in far better hands right now.
It is very clear Atiku should have shelved his ambition and support Peter Obi in 2023.
grin grin grin
This is what Atiku is also thinking that Obi should have done😂
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 5:02pm On May 03
Good
BlueRayDick:
It's actually not funny.

When I was in the university I was on the streets hustling to keep body and soul together and cater for my immediate needs as a guy. One of the hustles I engage in was working with caterers either as cooking help, waiter/server at functions and disher(the guy who dishes food which servers/waiters take to guests on their seats)

I worked with a particular caterer who has a gig which she does for some of her clients on quarterly basis. At least I remember going with her on 3 different ocassions.

The caterer is contracted to cook large portion of soups ( efo riro, egusi, ogbono, ewedu, ọfàda sauce, and buka stew), porridge, jollof rice, fried rice and diferrent protein types(turkey, full goat meat, half cow, fish and even snail).

The food are portioned in different sizes and stored in the fridge and freezers. Anytime they want to eat swallow, they will bring out preferred soup, microwave it and turn their desired swallow within the next 3 months.

I doubt the woman of that family have any reason to cook for the next 3 months before the caterer comes in to cook another batch.

These are well to do families living in some of the coolest estates in Lagos mainland. Nothing suggests those families are not happy whether the wife cooks or not.

Since yesterday I've just been laughing seeing people arguing as if there are no rich people who don't cook inside that Redeemed church where Adeboye made the statement. It's not like his statement will scatter their marriage that has survived test of time despite the woman of the house not cooking.
Obligatory picture of BlueRayDick

So you actually know Amala turning for reals

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 5:04pm On May 03
raumdeuter:
Lets sort out Asiwaju 2027 first then we can do Atiku 2031
Are we still on that matter?

2031 should go to the North, and who else will sweep their votes if not Atiku?

20 million votes for him alone in the NW and NE, excluding the ones who have died.

APC should just throw in the towel in 2031. It's a done deal
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:07pm On May 03
GloriousGbola:
Good

Obligatory picture of BlueRayDick

So you actually know Amala turning for reals
Yes, I did this and more.

I dey go lectures Monday to Friday (sometimes I no dey go on Friday sef if na inconsequential course), then go turn Amala, prepare salad, fry small.cjops, etc over the weekends.

Better hustle wey dey put money for pocket steady.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 5:07pm On May 03
MorataFC:
grin grin grin
This is what Atiku is also thinking that Obi should have done😂
It was general knowledge that power will return to South after Buhari disastrous 8 Year misrule..
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 5:08pm On May 03
TrebleChamp:
If Akitu hadn't been self centred, allowed power return to South by supporting Obi, maybe Nigeria will be in far better hands right now.

Akitu with structure and Governors pooled 6m votes.

Obi without structure and Governors pooled 6m declared votes, add the stolen Rivers and Lagos votes and he would be president today.

It is very clear Atiku should have shelved his ambition and support Peter Obi in 2023.
It's not clear to them oh.

Let's see how Atiku will fare with no Governor and Senator this time.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:15pm On May 03
Emaprince:
Batch cooking in Nigeria? How many households can afford that?
Anybody who is gainfully employed can afford to cook food that will last 3 good months without having to eat outside or buy fast food.

It's same amount you buy food stuff in the market that they will buy the foodstuff. The only difference is the cost you will pay those who will do the cooking once. It might not even cost you up to 150k to pay the caterer and his/her boys that will do it.

Na Una dey look am with big man eyes.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 5:20pm On May 03
izzou:
It's not clear to them oh.

Let's see how Atiku will fare with no Governor and Senator this time.
ADC still has issues cos the Supreme Court judgement also referred the matter back to the High Court, Kwankwaso and Obi saw the the problem ahead and did the right thing by leaving..
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by livelongprospa: 5:22pm On May 03
izzou:
Hopefully Atiku wins since he has the force
Are you happy now that Obi has left those guys? 😁
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 5:24pm On May 03
livelongprospa:
Are you happy now that Obi has left those guys? 😁
Absolutely!
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 5:26pm On May 03
TrebleChamp:
ADC still has issues cos the Supreme Court judgement also referred the matter back to the High Court, Kwankwaso and Obi saw the the problem ahead and did the right thing by leaving..
It was very clear who should have supported who in 2023, and even 2027.

They know the numbers are there. The only reason is that "The North will not vote".

The way Tinubu will sweep the votes in the North in 2027, will even shock Late General Buhari (Peace Be unto him)
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by livelongprospa: 5:27pm On May 03
izzou:
Absolutely!
Lmaoooooo


So atiku could not handle Kwankwaso joining ADC.
Baba know say primaries Don blow up as Kwankwaso team up with Obi.
Hence that stupid Arise TV interview.

Anyways.
I need him to do well in the North.
Lets see what the Kwankwaso reception will be up north.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by livelongprospa: 5:28pm On May 03
When campaign season dey open?

Whoever advised Dickson to create the NDC get vision.


Meanwhile OBJ hates Atiku man.
Kai
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Olowunl01: 5:32pm On May 03
raumdeuter:
If your aim is to remove Tinubu, the next best thing to do at this point is for Obi not to be on the ticket of his new party

Otherwise you are just splitting anti APC votes

Its basic logic
I respect Obi more for not being desperate for power to revert to being VP especially when it is the turn of the South.
This is same thinking lead you people to the unmitigated disaster personified in Buhari, Like everyone else, I would rather Tinubu continue that an Atiku, the south is not servant to the North, the reason Tinubu is president is due to the both Northern & importantly southern governors insisting on fairness that power return to the south after 8yrs of Buhari, it's an insult to southern part for Atiku to have insisted on contesting in 2023, that's the original sin.

Also between Atiku vs Tinubu, though not his greatest fan, I prefer Tinubu, though both are equally corrupt, so what can you Atiku people point to suggest that he is better than Tinubu? Atleast with Obi you can point to him being younger, perceived as being less corrupt & not frivolous.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 5:32pm On May 03
livelongprospa:
Lmaoooooo


So atiku could not handle Kwankwaso joining ADC.
Baba know say primaries Don blow up as Kwankwaso team up with Obi.
Hence that stupid Arise TV interview.

Anyways.
I need him to do well in the North.
Lets see what the Kwankwaso reception will be up north.
Shebi I said it here that Kwankwaso joining ADC was to ensure that Obi runs, but because I no dey wear big cross for neck, Raumdeuter doesn't take me seriously.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:38pm On May 03
Olowunl01:
I respect Obi more for not being desperate for power to revert to being VP especially when it is the turn of the South.
This is same thinking lead you people to the unmitigated disaster personified in Buhari, Like everyone else, I would rather Tinubu continue that an Atiku, the south is not servant to the North, the reason Tinubu is president is due to the both Northern & importantly southern governors insisting on fairness that power return to the south after 8yrs of Buhari, it's an insult to southern part for Atiku to have insisted on contesting in 2023, that's the original sin.

Also between Atiku vs Tinubu, though not his greatest fan, I prefer Tinubu, though both are equally corrupt, so what can you Atiku people point to suggest that he is better than Tinubu? Atleast with Obi you can point to him being younger, perceived as being less corrupt & not frivolous.
All is fine as long as Tinubu wins

By 2031 no concern me
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:39pm On May 03
izzou:
Shebi I said it here that Kwankwaso joining ADC was to ensure that Obi runs, but because I no dey wear big cross for neck, Raudeuter doesn't take me seriously.
How i go take you seriously when Nollywood actresses never begin drag you say you give dem belle
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