₦airaland Forum

aswani:
I am talking about LP votes, where did I mention APC votes? Can't you Obidients have a discussion calmly without conflating matters?

givedemwotowoto:
Whether you're talking LP or NNPC or PVC, you're talking about Peter Obi's votes + Kwankwaso's votes.

You're talking about the people that will get up from their homes on election day and vote for Peter Obi and Kwankwaso over Tinubu and Atiku

So you think that someone who voted for Peter Obi in 2023, after seeing how Tinubu has performed, will go and put their votes for Tinubu?

As in, you weren't convinced when they were hyping Tinubu in 2023, now you're convinced after seeing his performance?

More people have probably left him than those who joined him for specific personal benefits, that's the point.

One thing we know is that over 80% of Nigerians have lost rather than benefiting from Tinubu, and people know it's going to get worse. They also know that this was you guys hyped Buhari for 8 years, only to say later he messed up the economy. People know these things.

aswani:
I think you might want to take off your Obidient goggles and take a look at APC votes in bye elections all over the country since 2023. That party, and I am not a member or voter of, have not seemingly lost any ground at all.

I don't know where your 80% is coming from but something that steep would have been reflected in elections by now.

The totally useless opposition we have, and they are still showing their uselessness daily, means while less people will vote, APC are likely to improve their percentage share.

givedemwotowoto:
Now you're going to APC instead of focusing on the Presidential elections I was talking about.

Tinubu lost Lagos to Obi but Sanwo Olu won the same Lagos.

Peter Obi had almost zero elected official but he got 6 million votes including winning Lagos, Abuja and so on.

So let's focus on Presidential election as data has shown that voters vote differently

Even if voters are voting APC at their local elections, voting Tinubu, Obi and so on, is different.

aswani:
Interesting point about Presidential elections being different to others, however, Peter Obi had a huge momentum nationwide to get that third place push in 2023.

Mainly thanks to his Obidients abusive and insultive behaviour, that he refused to acknowledge and curb so is complicit, that push no longer exists.

Peter Obi's vote share will drop the most. The party hopping and rancid Obidient tribalism being a factor too.

aswani:
Interesting point about Presidential elections being different to others, however, Peter Obi had a huge momentum nationwide to get that third place push in 2023.

Mainly thanks to his Obidients abusive and insultive behaviour, that he refused to acknowledge and curb so is complicit, that push no longer exists.

Peter Obi's vote share will drop the most. The party hopping and rancid Obidient tribalism being a factor too.

givedemwotowoto:
By what measure or poll did you determine that Peter Obi's push no longer exists?

You go just de throw your emotions out there anyhow but still at the same time be accusing others about what you're doing.

It's the same way you're accusing Obidients of abuse and insults when you're masters of it (See attached evidence)

Freetech:
Peter Obi is a very terrible leader and very crude and cruel.

Everyone close to him are leaving in droves, bcs he's dubious

Too desperate that he's ready to sacrifice anything, anyone for his fraudulent ambition.

They claimed 10m in NDC bcs of Obi. However Uche Montana also have more than 10m view on his Monica debut, within same.

The reality is that many will watch a mad man entertaining @ market Square but no one will agree to take him home

Many registered with NDC to watch Obi and his headless mob creating contents and jokes

Kukutente23:
So you mean those who registered with APC also registered to watch Tinubu and his zombies creating contents and jokes

aswani:
I am talking about LP votes, where did I mention APC votes? Can't you Obidients have a discussion calmly without conflating matters?

naptu2:
He said,



There is a massive campaign among some northerners, particularly supporters of Atiku Abubakar, Nasir El-Rufai and some people that call themselves Elite Buharists that they will work against Dr Rabiu Musa Kwankwaso. They believe that there was a great opportunity to remove Tinubu from office and return power to the north, but that Kwankwaso is sabotaging that opportunity by attempting to split votes.

These people have been spreading all kinds of conspiracy theories that Kwankwaso is working for Bola Tinubu and that's why the Kano State governor defected to the APC. They say that Kwankwaso has struck some kind of deal with APC so that he would become president in 2031.

They say that they are going to work against Kwankwaso in the north and they want to see how he will sell Peter Obi in the north.

Image123:
As old as you are, you also believe that 10million joke?

aswani:
First off, I am not aligned with any party, especially ADC, so I can't be masters of insults and abuse anything.

I was alive in 2023, I saw the force behind Peter Obí then and as an avid political enthusiast (SeeWahala take note), I can tell from discussions in real life and on line that Peter Obí circa 2026 is a shell of Peter Obí 2023 and It is not even close.

Quite frankly, with what was behind Peter Obi in 2023, by now, Atiku and even Wike should both be begging him to collapse their support into his own in order to have an opposition with a true chance of doing to APC what AC and CP did to PDP.

That was the trajectory he was projecting towards, not the third place, lesser votes scenario unfolding for him.

success1smyn:
Add the religious aspect to it. In 2023 Obi got a sizable percentage of the votes he got because he used the church and the so called Muslim/Muslim ticket of the APC, that will be different this time.

givedemwotowoto:
I wasn't expecting you to admit that you people including the leaders you respect and listen to, are the masters of insults and bigotry. Many of your colleagues praised Buhari for 8 solid years as the best, then dismissed him as the worst soon after he left office. They changed monicker and swear they were never Buhari supporters. We have seen worse with Tinubu supporters so I won't even argue with you on that.

Meanwhile, So the PO push no longer exists even when Peter Obi has not insulted anyone, but Tinubu's push still exists even after he caused extreme hardship and insecurity on Nigerians? His push still exists?

Your emotions are all over the place. Use your logical and factual thoughts in this discussion, not your feelings.

omoredia:
Haha who knows this one? Senu the money wey Tinubu dey give u for these Ur propaganda wilI become a big waste

stuffs2002:
Open your eyes and you will see that Peter Obi is being massively deserted by the few non-Igbos that stood by him

stuffs2002:
Whatever you are smoking...

All the strong non-Igbo supporters are massively resigning yet you say he fit still win.
How exactly is Obi going to win when everyone is deserting him?

givedemwotowoto:
I wasn't expecting you to admit that you people including the leaders you respect and listen to, are the masters of insults and bigotry. Many of your colleagues praised Buhari for 8 solid years as the best, then dismissed him as the worst soon after he left office. They changed monicker and swear they were never Buhari supporters. We have seen worse with Tinubu supporters so I won't even argue with you on that.

Meanwhile, So the PO push no longer exists even when Peter Obi has not insulted anyone, but Tinubu's push still exists even after he caused extreme hardship and insecurity on Nigerians? His push still exists?

Your emotions are all over the place. Use your logical and factual thoughts in this discussion, not your feelings.

tiger28:
Ppl don’t understand what is going on here.

Obi has been CAGED AGAIN!

He fell into NDC trap…….. NDC was formed for this reason. Seriake Dickson ( who is half Yoruba) had a private visit to Aso rock 2 days before the defection.

ONLY Atiku/Obi alliance can threaten APC but it’s been successfully foiled.

Landslide for Tinubu!

Kalashnikov49:
That esnbrutality really exposed you people.