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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 7:56am On May 07
Theflint1:
I'm sure he didn't know we once had #750 as minimum wage when he was protesting for 86/litre.
Na the hypocrisy dey vex me pass
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 8:52am On May 07
raumdeuter:
Ask the lady to mention one specific right that has been stripped off her by Trumps administration
grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by abduleez1(m): 9:06am On May 07
See them..... Una no dey fit do pass "subsidy". Dem take subsidy swear for Una?


I always thought many of these guys love America and it's capitalist systems— the land of the free.

The country they love to make comparisons with and bad mouth others saying "whether if theem give you visa shey you go reject am?" But when it comes to the actual economic system that's where they draw the line. grin grin

Stay in one place make the thunder align well with GPS.

If we dey advocate for China now, dem no go let person rest with noise but na dem like subsidy pass Chinese citizens sef. 😂😂

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 9:21am On May 07
abduleez1:
See them..... Una no dey fit do pass "subsidy". Dem take subsidy swear for Una?


I always thought many of these guys love America and it's capitalist systems— the land of the free.

The country they love to make comparisons with and bad mouth others saying "whether if theem give you visa shey you go reject am?" But when it comes to the actual economic system that's where they draw the line. grin grin

Stay in one place make the thunder align well with GPS.

If we dey advocate for China now, dem no go let person rest with noise but na dem like subsidy pass Chinese citizens sef. 😂😂
This talk of Affordability is very funny. They make it sound like the electricity will only be for your 1 bedroom flat.

Something that will improve industrialization; lead to more jobs, more industries, more efficiency, na wetin una wan use 2 bedroom flat take dey evaluate?

grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by abduleez1(m): 10:28am On May 07
izzou:
This talk of Affordability is very funny. They make it sound like the electricity will only be for your 1 bedroom flat.

Something that will improve industrialization; lead to more jobs, more industries, more efficiency, na wetin una wan use 2 bedroom flat take dey evaluate?

grin
I swear anytime I hear that talk it vexes me so much.

They're all just concerned about individual lighting and not thinking about industrialization and nation building.

Nigerians wants everything subsidized by government for them. with the average mentality of a Nigerian, we're not much different from a socialist state.

The US they so love to associate with mostly built that country where it is from private companies/individuals, what the govt did was just enabling environment and favourable policies.

Out here na Una dey shout NNPC, NEPA, Nigerian Airways, no toll gates, subsidized education etc why will you get quality. And your idol na Uncle Sam, is that not hypocrisy or blatant betrayal of ideology?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by paiporte: 1:03pm On May 07
Which one is hantavirus again
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by livelongprospa: 1:18pm On May 07


Lmao
Apc Wan run governor street??

Oasisx howfar?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 1:22pm On May 07
paiporte:
Which one is hantavirus again
I'm tired
I'm tired
I'm tired ohhhh
So many struggles in this world


cry cry cry cry
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 1:40pm On May 07
livelongprospa:


Lmao
Apc Wan run governor street??

howfar?
But to be honest, what are they expecting?

You contested through Party A and won. Then you decamped to Party B. Are you expecting nobody to challenge you there?

So many NASS members would most likely not return. APC has already said there's no consensus for them.

So if you left LP, PDP to APC, just prepare to go home, because the APC candidate wey lose to you, go flog you well well for primaries.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 1:43pm On May 07
Spy360:
When you and other APC witches dey protest against N86 fuel price you didn't know that times change 😂
The time we protested the N86 fuel is also different from now, That is about 15yrs ago which is a different time from now, Stay updated
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by abduleez1(m): 2:00pm On May 07
Dangote don dey mention going into power sector, LNG, steel and phosphates and mining for the past 6 months oo. All are very ambitious projects and would probably disrupt some certain line of businesses.

Baba don dey do promo since, no much noise now o. Later Dem go wait until he finally builds his new empire and then begin to shout monopoly.

These things ain't disappearing on ground in two to three years. Investors and fellow market players have time to reposition themselves or adapt or counter act or leverage themselves well in their individual industries..... But no.

They'll wait until it's too late and imminent death of their business before you start seeing pushback and tears about monopoly all because we've somehow become used to the habit of rent seeking and "subsidies or concessions".

Anyways, the next 5 years will be an interesting one for Dangote, Nigeria and Africa at large.

I just love the man's ambitions:

• 20GW Power investment.... Even if na 10GW Dangote fit do for Nigeria I go too congratulate am. Dangote Refinery already has about 1500MW gas power plant feeding it's operations and the fertilizer and petrochemical plant. So there's already industrial capacity.

• A massive Deep Sea port in the works at Ogun with 18m depth for the biggest Panamax vessels.

• Steel manufacturing plant....we can finally forget about the humongous failure that is Ajaokuta.

• Expansion of Refinery to 1.4mn barrels— largest in the world.

• Expansion of fertiliser plant to largest in the world. Nigeria already is now among the largest exporters of fertiliser in the world because of the Dangote investment.


All are major projects that seriously contributes to economic development and projects majorly spearheaded by national governments in a sane climate. But one man is taking this massive risk, betting his neck and money on the line in a very risky climate like ours and yet when he finally succeeds against all odds, people go later dey shout monopoly.


What I still like about him is his investment in other African countries too....helps push his pan African views or narrative. Helps Nigeria of some sort with good visibility and soft power influence in associated countries and deepens Intra-African trade.

• Phosphates mining and fertiliser production in East Africa/Central Africa.

• Proposed refinery project in Tanzania mirroring his Lagos complex.

• Massive 1m+ tons fertilizer plant in Ethiopia with shared equity investment with the Ethiopian government.

This is what they call nation building. Imagine if we have just 10 likes of Dangote with these outsized ambitions and goal getting. Nigeria go don massively develop in 10yrs. Thankfully, BUA Group owner Abdulsamad Rabiu is following his footsteps but we need more.

These dem Elumelu, Otedola and the likes hiding in banking sector & Oil and gas with high margins needs to step up with the industrialization push. But I know say dem no go gree, since they're some of the peeps always telling Dangote his plans would fail in Nigeria.

I hope I'm alive to see these come to fruition. cool
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by abduleez1(m): 2:15pm On May 07
One of the most useless governors I've seen in my lifetime. Sometimes I really wonder what Ogun state govt does with its huge IGR. undecided angry

This one na Lamba sha.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:22pm On May 07
airmark:
Penkelemess ni agidi ju. He still doesn't know how to play Amala politics. Without Tinubu's backing he can't get that ticket.

That's how he left for Accord last time and lost. But he understands that no matter what happens, after the 2027 elections Tinubu will still find something for him. But there's Teslim to be pacified. Not sure he was happy that after the last election he wasn't given appointment in Abuja.

We see how things unfold as per the Guber ticket.
APC guber battle still ongoing as Penkele is refusing to back down

Seyi is reported to have chose Ajimobis former commisioner of finance Bimbo Adekanmbi who left APC last December
Seyi is also reported to have picked Odidiomo for Oyo South Senate, Femi Ajadi for Oyo Central and Shina Peller for Oyo North

The main news is that Seyi is trying to decide which party these people will contest under. Right now it seems like it might be APM
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 2:39pm On May 07
So Channels Television benefit from Wike's land bonanza?

Make person no tell Wike him problem. Na for National TV you go hear the solution
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:52pm On May 07
abduleez1:
Dangote don dey mention going into power sector, LNG, steel and phosphates and mining for the past 6 months oo. All are very ambitious projects and would probably disrupt some certain line of businesses.

Baba don dey do promo since, no much noise now o. Later Dem go wait until he finally builds his new empire and then begin to shout monopoly
.

They'll wait until it's too late and imminent death of their business before you start seeing pushback and tears about monopoly all because we've somehow become used to the habit of rent seeking and "subsidies or concessions".
If you build a privately funded plant , start production and the n start pushing for government to ban importation of similar products which serves as close substitutes; trust me people will shout monopoly and they are within their rights to do so.

If it is a free market like most capitalist economies are expected to run, you are not expected to be lobbying government to ban or stiffle competition.

The truth is Dangote's refinery owes the country part of its success story and Dangote himself does not deny it. It is common knowledge that FX was made available to him for the construction of the refinery at a time other Nigerian business were going through hell to access FX under Buhari's government. Now imagine you are one of those businessmen who was denied FX then and after Dangote's refinery goes into operation the same Dangote is lobbying government to stop granting import license to you just to kill off competition.

If such a person cries about monopoly , do you think such a person is not justified in his "wailing"?


This is what they call nation building. Imagine if we have just 10 likes of Dangote with these outsized ambitions and goal getting. Nigeria go don massively develop in 10yrs. Thankfully, BUA Group owner Abdulsamad Rabiu is following his footsteps but we need more.

These dem Elumelu, Otedola and the likes hiding in banking sector & Oil and gas with high margins needs to step up with the industrialization push. But I know say dem no go gree, since they're some of the peeps always telling Dangote his plans would fail in Nigeria
.

It will surprise you to know that Dangote is not the only investing in Nigeria, he just has bigger PR than others. For example Berth Nnaji already invested in Geometric power long before Dangote thought about this investment you are excited about.

Indorama has 2 train of Fertilizer plants that currently has annual capacity of 2.6 million metric tonnes of Urea prodcution and currently constructing the 3rd train that will take their production capacity to 4million metric tonnes . NB. Dangote Fertlizer plant's current capacity is 3 million metric tonnes per annum.

BUA is doing well with their Cement plant that rivals Dangote. BUA is also building an Urea Fertilizer plant to compete with Dangote Fertilizer and Indorama, the project is in its Front End Engineering Design (FEED) stage.

The various business ventures of Dangote has other Nigerian, Foreign and Institutional players who are investing in those sectors too. I guess they are all involved in nation building as you put it.

What will be irritable is for Dangote to make moves to corner any of those sectors by lobbying government to enact policies that will incapacitate competitors. Trust me, nobody will keep quite when they see someone trying to take away their food.

Let Dangote invest his money in any way he desires; but let him not start making moves like he did with the refinery when he was telling FG to withdraw importation license from other oil marketers. Simple! E no pass like that.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by chrisooblog: 2:53pm On May 07


izzou:
So Channels Television benefit from Wike's land bonanza?

Make person no tell Wike him problem. Na for National TV you go hear the solution
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 3:02pm On May 07
cc;


BlueRayDick
Ellexy
Emaprince
Ballzproblemm

https://www.nairaland.com/8667244/israeli-soldier-places-cigarette-mouth#139332210

IDF doing what they know how to do.. Tufia

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 3:33pm On May 07
[quote author=chrisooblog post=139335896] they are making his point nau.

Wike said Channels did not buy the land but got it through allocation.

Channels is saying they were allocated the land and paid the necessary fees
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DeepSight(m): 3:49pm On May 07
BlueRayDick:
Let Dangote invest his money in any way he desires; but let him not start making moves like he did with the refinery when he was telling FG to withdraw importation license from other oil marketers. Simple! E no pass like that.
Would you say this was at the root of his issue with Farouk?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by abduleez1(m): 4:07pm On May 07
BlueRayDick:
If you build a privately funded plant , start production and the n start pushing for government to ban importation of similar products which serves as close substitutes; trust me people will shout monopoly and they are within their rights to do so.

If it is a free market like most capitalist economies are expected to run, you are not expected to be lobbying government to ban or stiffle competition.

The truth is Dangote's refinery owes the country part of its success story and Dangote himself does not deny it. It is common knowledge that FX was made available to him for the construction of the refinery at a time other Nigerian business were going through hell to access FX under Buhari's government. Now imagine you are one of those businessmen who was denied FX then and after Dangote's refinery goes into operation the same Dangote is lobbying government to stop granting import license to you just to kill off competition.

If such a person cries about monopoly , do you think such a person is not justified in his "wailing"?


.

It will surprise you to know that Dangote is not the only investing in Nigeria, he just has bigger PR than others. For example Berth Nnaji already invested in Geometric power long before Dangote thought about this investment you are excited about.

Indorama has 2 train of Fertilizer plants that currently has annual capacity of 2.6 million metric tonnes of Urea prodcution and currently constructing the 3rd train that will take their production capacity to 4million metric tonnes . NB. Dangote Fertlizer plant's current capacity is 3 million metric tonnes per annum.

BUA is doing well with their Cement plant that rivals Dangote. BUA is also building an Urea Fertilizer plant to compete with Dangote Fertilizer and Indorama, the project is in its Front End Engineering Design (FEED) stage.

The various business ventures of Dangote has other Nigerian, Foreign and Institutional players who are investing in those sectors too. I guess they are all involved in nation building as you put it.

What will be irritable is for Dangote to make moves to corner any of those sectors by lobbying government to enact policies that will incapacitate competitors. Trust me, nobody will keep quite when they see someone trying to take away their food.

Let Dangote invest his money in any way he desires; but let him not start making moves like he did with the refinery when he was telling FG to withdraw importation license from other oil marketers. Simple! E no pass like that.
You know my stance on this Dangote refinery vs import ban. Well it was clearly stipulated in the PIB bill that when domestic refining reach a critical stage of fulfilling full national consumption, then import licences should be suspended. Yep, it is law. And yes it might be selfish for Dangote to advocate for that but he's actually in his right exploit a legal and regulatory oversight that is advantageous to him.

Regarding other industrialists, I stated them in my post especially BUA.

In fact, Indorama Eleme Petrochemical plant you put up I actually wrote the company's contribution too in fertilizer in making Nigeria a net exporter of fertiliser and top 10 worldwide. I later scrapped the company's name and achievements and BUA's planned fertiliser plans because my post was getting too long and verbose. I'm well aware of them.

I know of Eleme's expansion plans but Dangote is also not resting on his oars. Dangote is also expanding his fertiliser plant from 3m to 6mn metric tonnes per annum which doubles Eleme's. Also note the Dangote Ethiopian fertilizer business is going to be a 3mn mtpa facility.

Anyways, kudos to all companies and their visionary executives.

One other reason I am always at loggerheads with your monopoly shout against Dangote is that I'm well away of BUA's incoming 350,000 bpd oil refinery under construction. So, surely by 2028 Dangote wouldn't be the only major refinery operator in Nigeria if NNPC decide to remain useless. That's why the monopoly shouts doesn't faze me cos I know he's currently enjoying first mover advantage and competition is coming. A solid competitor at that.

I'm only soliciting other big wigs to pull their weight too..... Other fellow billionaires. That's why I praise BUA's Abdulsamad who also tows the massive industrial building as opposed to the financial services billionaires who mostly sit on massive funds without much industrial push.
That's why I'll always hawk Dangote and Rabiu Samad like gala for my head.

Of course I know of other billionaires inputs in their various ways in Dangote's businesses, in fact Elumelu and Dangote signed a deal a month ago for UBA to finance/facilitate a few expansion projects.
So me putting Elumelu's in my castigation doesn't necessarily mean I don't know he's contributing one way or another, especially with his acquisition of energy blocs with his Heirs Energy.


As for power I've been here in the past to commend and sing Barth Nnaji's praise in the past and his Aba Power/ Geometric achievements.

There's also Adeleke building an almost completed 1000MW of electricity gas plant in the SW.
I am just an Oliver Twist and wish to see more private participation in nation building in the scale of an Abdulsamad Rabiu or a Dangote.
They have the money, have the connections and the required expertise to do these projects in scale.... I just feel they're mostly lacking in the ambition.
I like someone who dreams crazy big like Dangote. That's why I'm pained how that Access Bank CEO died.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by abduleez1(m):
BlueRayDick:
If you build a privately funded plant , start production and the n start pushing for government to ban importation of similar products which serves as close substitutes; trust me people will shout monopoly and they are within their rights to do so.

If it is a free market like most capitalist economies are expected to run, you are not expected to be lobbying government to ban or stiffle competition.
All this shout of monopoly seems funny to me sometimes. You believe the world or the US truly runs a free market economy? Or as in China, a socialist economy?

Even the Capitalist economies you most likely bring parallels to have well known Monopolies who the government even sides with and protect with policies.

Na industry wey never mature reach five years Una dey shout monopoly. Wetin do the ones wey don dey that field for ages?

At times it's in the country's best interests to allow a supposed monopoly to grow and achieve scale for the betterment of the country and overlying economy. You'll tackle the issue of monopoly later to deal with anticompetitive practices. Everything doesn't come to perfection at once.

If not, then Boeing of this world, Amazon, Google, Apple, Nvidia, ASML, TSMC no go dey operate with this scale.

Do you know how the US government has shielded US car makers with all the tariffs against Chinese EVs— talk about free market economy.

Same way the US airlines of old had Monopolies with them Pan Am, TWA and co.

Besides some of these guys were given licences years ago to build refineries and never built one block and yet want us to keep importing trash.

What Dangote has even said, fine if you want to import, no problem. But at least import the level of quality of oil that is produced domestically or that is required by the regulators into the country. Not the substandard trash with low octane rating, several thousandths of sulfur per unit contained that don't even nearly meet up to the standards set by the regulators before you can import.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by chrisooblog: 4:27pm On May 07
He's making it sound as if they did some illegal hidden deal. If the allocation didn't follow due process he should take them to court instead of all this playing to the gallery. All this allocation talk just because Wike refused to answer a straight forward question from the Channels correspondent.

izzou:
But they are making his point nau.

Wike said Channels did not buy the land but got it through allocation.

Channels is saying they were allocated the land and paid the necessary fees
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:39pm On May 07
abduleez1:
What Dangote has even said, fine if you want to import, no problem. But at least import the level of quality of oil that is produced domestically or that is required by the regulators into the country. Not the substandard trash with low octane rating, several thousandths of sulfur per unit contained that don't even nearly meet up to the standards set by the regulators before you can import.
It is not In Dangote's place to act as the operator by determining who imports what. There is a regulator who determines the quality of fuel that can be imported. Dangote should let the regulators do their job while he minds his own business of selling refined products.

Dangote has been caught in web of propaganda in the past, so taking his word on matters that concerns competitor as the gospel truth is just you letting yourself drawn in by the antics of a cutthroat business man.

I hope you know NMDPRA actually debunked the allegations by Dangote that imported PMS had excessive sulphuric content?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 4:46pm On May 07
chrisooblog:
He's making it sound as if they did some illegal hidden deal. If the allocation didn't follow due process he should take them to court instead of all this playing to the gallery. All this allocation talk just because Wike refused to answer a straight forward question from the Channels correspondent.
Wike was trying to prove that they cannot be questioning his methods about allocation, when they also benefited from it.

But then, it shows the rot in the whole nation. A minister can share lands however he wants, and boast about it
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:49pm On May 07
abduleez1:
You know my stance on this Dangote refinery vs import ban. Well it was clearly stipulated in the PIB bill that when domestic refining reach a critical stage of fulfilling full national consumption, then import licences should be suspended. Yep, it is law. And yes it might be selfish for Dangote to advocate for that but he's actually in his right exploit a legal and regulatory oversight that is advantageous to him.

Regarding other industrialists, I stated them in my post especially BUA.

In fact, Indorama Eleme Petrochemical plant you put up I actually wrote the company's contribution too in fertilizer in making Nigeria a net exporter of fertiliser and top 10 worldwide. I later scrapped the company's name and achievements and BUA's planned fertiliser plans because my post was getting too long and verbose. I'm well aware of them.

I know of Eleme's expansion plans but Dangote is also not resting on his oars. Dangote is also expanding his fertiliser plant from 3m to 6mn metric tonnes per annum which doubles Eleme's. Also note the Dangote Ethiopian fertilizer business is going to be a 3mn mtpa facility.

Anyways, kudos to all companies and their visionary executives.

One other reason I am always at loggerheads with your monopoly shout against Dangote is that I'm well away of BUA's incoming 350,000 bpd oil refinery under construction. So, surely by 2028 Dangote wouldn't be the only major refinery operator in Nigeria if NNPC decide to remain useless. That's why the monopoly shouts doesn't faze me cos I know he's currently enjoying first mover advantage and competition is coming. A solid competitor at that.

I'm only soliciting other big wigs to pull their weight too..... Other fellow billionaires. That's why I praise BUA's Abdulsamad who also tows the massive industrial building as opposed to the financial services billionaires who mostly sit on massive funds without much industrial push.
That's why I'll always hawk Dangote and Rabiu Samad like gala for my head.

Of course I know of other billionaires inputs in their various ways in Dangote's businesses, in fact Elumelu and Dangote signed a deal a month ago for UBA to finance/facilitate a few expansion projects.
So me putting Elumelu's in my castigation doesn't necessarily mean I don't know he's contributing one way or another, especially with his acquisition of energy blocs with his Heirs Energy.


As for power I've been here in the past to commend and sing Barth Nnaji's praise in the past and his Aba Power/ Geometric achievements.

There's also Adeleke building an almost completed 1000MW of electricity gas plant in the SW.
I am just an Oliver Twist and wish to see more private participation in nation building in the scale of an Abdulsamad Rabiu or a Dangote.
They have the money, have the connections and the required expertise to do these projects in scale.... I just feel they're mostly lacking in the ambition.
I like someone who dreams crazy big like Dangote. That's why I'm pained how that Access Bank CEO died.
People don't just invest in businesses because they have billions, most of them invest in businesses they have passion for and can find enough expertise for. They also look at businesses that have chances of turning their capital over and not just because they believe the market is open.


In fact there are business you will start today in Nigeria that if you are not careful you will run out of raw materials to use in production.

I won't blame billionaires in the banking and financial services if they choose not to go into production and manufacturing.

I think our focus should be on government using money recovered from corrupt public officials to use start some of these industries. Also those money they recover from Paris club, Abacha loot, etc, that's what they should be utilizing those money for. Not for them to be sharing as one nonsense conditional cash transfer that won't really do anything for anybody. That's what It means to think from consumption to production.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by abduleez1(m): 5:04pm On May 07
BlueRayDick:
It is not In Dangote's place to act as the operator by determining who imports what. There is a regulator who determines the quality of fuel that can be imported. Dangote should let the regulators do their job while he minds his own business of selling refined products.

Dangote has been caught in web of propaganda in the past, so taking his word on matters that concerns competitor as the gospel truth is just you letting yourself drawn in by the antics of a cutthroat business man.

I hope you know NMDPRA actually debunked the allegations by Dangote that imported PMS had excessive sulphuric content?
Lmao.... Believe NMDPRA at your own peril. The same lots and bedfellows with the massively corrupt NNPC that almost want to kpai this country's collective wealth? That's why Buhari and Tinubu said they must be petroleum ministers cos of the lack of transparency in that industry.


The same useless body that can't definitively tell Nigerians how many millions barrels per day we consume. Same people who lie and inflate our actual consumption figures.
The same people saying we were consuming about 80mn litres of fuel per day?
Dangote said its much lower and about 40mn litres per day, yet since the importations reduced or when Dangote started refining we haven't had the incessant queues that threatened to uproot the economy.
So who's lying to who?? So Nigeria's population magically had half the populace die in a massive disaster that wiped off half of the national demand? With your population set to outpace the USA and become № 4 in two decades time?? You funny sha grin grin

NMDPRA debunking shït wouldn't make me trust them one bit cos they're an institution built on and thrive on lies.

Can NMDPRA tell us the individual sulphuric content of each major imports grade vs Dangote's own in Nigeria. The same regulator that allows marketers that buy far inferior Russian fuel blends for the domestic market just because they're way cheaper.

If we're being honest with ourselves and the marketers actually bring in top quality low sulfur fuel they wouldn't be able to "compete" at all with Dangote because the logistics fee and the premium for high quality fuel means it'd be unprofitable for the marketers when they bring it here.

Abeg, no dey drink that Kool aid wey dem dey feed you. The same people that allow NNPC bring in adulterated fuel that knocked people's car engines that year that NNPC had to do a public apology and recall fuel in depots. Dem dey test the quality of fuels into the country na him dem no notice that thing earlier before circulation in the domestic market till the point of destroying thousands of car engines.

Which lab does the NMDPRA has in Nigeria capable of global standards testing for refined products? Where e dey?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:24pm On May 07
abduleez1:
Can NMDPRA tell us the individual sulphuric content of each major imports grade vs Dangote's own in Nigeria.

Abeg, no dey drink that Kool aid wey dem dey feed you. The same people that allow NNPC bring in adulterated fuel that knocked people's car engines that year that NNPC had to do a public apology and recall fuel in depots. Dem dey test the quality of fuels into the country na him dem no notice that thing earlier before circulation in the domestic market till the point of destroying thousands of car engines.

Which lab does the NMDPRA has in Nigeria capable of global standards testing for refined products? Where e dey?
You are one funny individual. You believe Dangote whose refinery is a few years old, but you don't believe the regulator that has been testing and confirming the sulphuric content of Petroleum products long before Dangote thought of building a refinery?

You asked for lab where NMDPRA tests imported Petroleum products so let me answer you. They either use independent laboratory or an in-house laboratory like Dangote's at his refinery.

One major independent lab they use is intertek. See below link to intertek's website to check for yourself

https://www.intertek.com/petroleum/cargo/nigeria/

I know you are obsessed with Dangote and you believe him to be a god-in-investor-form that was sent to build Nigeria, but at least don't rubbish every other entity wey dey try while trying to praise Dangote 🙏

PS: I didn't respond to other parts of your post because you were conflating multiple issues and moving the discussion away from the initial premise
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 6:36pm On May 07
BlueRayDick:
You are one funny individual. You believe Dangote whose refinery is a few years old, but you don't believe the regulator that has been testing and confirming the sulphuric content of Petroleum products long before Dangote thought of building a refinery?

You asked for lab where NMDPRA tests imported Petroleum products so let me answer you. They either use independent laboratory or an in-house laboratory like Dangote's at his refinery.

One major independent lab they use is intertek. See below link to intertek's website to check for yourself

https://www.intertek.com/petroleum/cargo/nigeria/

I know you are obsessed with Dangote and you believe him to be a god-in-investor-form that was sent to build Nigeria, but at least don't rubbish every other entity wey dey try while trying to praise Dangote 🙏

PS: I didn't respond to other parts of your post because you were conflating multiple issues and moving the discussion away from the initial premise
After the terrible adulterated fuel debacle which kicked off and restarted nigeria's fuel scarcity I will say any lab nmdpra has is for show only.

Any major or independent who bought that ethanol tainted fuel (ie everyone) had to pump it out of their tanks, retransport to their depot and blend it with another pms batch to reduce the volume of ethanol. AT THEIR OWN COST.

Forget Dangote, most of the industry did not have anything good to say about NMDPRA, but no one has the clout, craze or lack of good sense to call out farouk that way.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 6:43pm On May 07
BlueRayDick:
It is not In Dangote's place to act as the operator by determining who imports what. There is a regulator who determines the quality of fuel that can be imported. Dangote should let the regulators do their job while he minds his own business of selling refined products.

Dangote has been caught in web of propaganda in the past, so taking his word on matters that concerns competitor as the gospel truth is just you letting yourself drawn in by the antics of a cutthroat business man.

I hope you know NMDPRA actually debunked the allegations by Dangote that imported PMS had excessive sulphuric content?
https://fij.ng/article/jungle-juice-how-europe-dumps-its-toxic-fuel-in-africa/

Way before Dangote spoke out there were multiple articles online about the low quality rejected european fuel being brought into nigeria

Also ibime had explained that Russian shadow fuel was being blended in Malta. As it is officially banned, it was being sold at below international rates. So Dangote's complaint about imports comes down to competing with lower priced smuggled products.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 6:46pm On May 07
abduleez1:
You know my stance on this Dangote refinery vs import ban. Well it was clearly stipulated in the PIB bill that when domestic refining reach a critical stage of fulfilling full national consumption, then import licences should be suspended. Yep, it is law. And yes it might be selfish for Dangote to advocate for that but he's actually in his right exploit a legal and regulatory oversight that is advantageous to him.

Regarding other industrialists, I stated them in my post especially BUA.

In fact, Indorama Eleme Petrochemical plant you put up I actually wrote the company's contribution too in fertilizer in making Nigeria a net exporter of fertiliser and top 10 worldwide. I later scrapped the company's name and achievements and BUA's planned fertiliser plans because my post was getting too long and verbose. I'm well aware of them.

I know of Eleme's expansion plans but Dangote is also not resting on his oars. Dangote is also expanding his fertiliser plant from 3m to 6mn metric tonnes per annum which doubles Eleme's. Also note the Dangote Ethiopian fertilizer business is going to be a 3mn mtpa facility.

Anyways, kudos to all companies and their visionary executives.

One other reason I am always at loggerheads with your monopoly shout against Dangote is that I'm well away of BUA's incoming 350,000 bpd oil refinery under construction. So, surely by 2028 Dangote wouldn't be the only major refinery operator in Nigeria if NNPC decide to remain useless. That's why the monopoly shouts doesn't faze me cos I know he's currently enjoying first mover advantage and competition is coming. A solid competitor at that.

I'm only soliciting other big wigs to pull their weight too..... Other fellow billionaires. That's why I praise BUA's Abdulsamad who also tows the massive industrial building as opposed to the financial services billionaires who mostly sit on massive funds without much industrial push.
That's why I'll always hawk Dangote and Rabiu Samad like gala for my head.

Of course I know of other billionaires inputs in their various ways in Dangote's businesses, in fact Elumelu and Dangote signed a deal a month ago for UBA to finance/facilitate a few expansion projects.
So me putting Elumelu's in my castigation doesn't necessarily mean I don't know he's contributing one way or another, especially with his acquisition of energy blocs with his Heirs Energy.


As for power I've been here in the past to commend and sing Barth Nnaji's praise in the past and his Aba Power/ Geometric achievements.

There's also Adeleke building an almost completed 1000MW of electricity gas plant in the SW.
I am just an Oliver Twist and wish to see more private participation in nation building in the scale of an Abdulsamad Rabiu or a Dangote.
They have the money, have the connections and the required expertise to do these projects in scale.... I just feel they're mostly lacking in the ambition.
I like someone who dreams crazy big like Dangote. That's why I'm pained how that Access Bank CEO died.
Nigerias problem is not capacity but price of energy. My thinking is that if tinubu wins this election, may 29 we will hear subsidy is gone episode 2. This will be very very very fking hard on all of us, but will start us on the road to actual growth of energy infrastructure and industrialisation.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 6:48pm On May 07
GloriousGbola:
After the terrible adulterated fuel debacle which kicked off and restarted nigeria's fuel scarcity I will say any lab nmdpra has is for show only.

Any major or independent who bought that ethanol tainted fuel (ie everyone) had to pump it out of their tanks, retransport to their depot and blend it with another pms batch to reduce the volume of ethanol. AT THEIR OWN COST.

Forget Dangote, most of the industry did not have anything good to say about NMDPRA, but no one has the clout, craze or lack of good sense to call out farouk that way.
Are you also aware that after the CEO of NMDPRA resigned, Dangote's man is now the new CEO?

I'm sure Dangote will begin to sing the praises of NMDPRA.

My point is, everybody knows what they are doing.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 6:49pm On May 07
Election season is here, LAMBA season is here

Peter Obi don start to settle fight between drivers The fight he couldnt settle at APGA, PDP, LP, ADC na for road he dey settle fight

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