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Very good idea, and Nigeria should not stop there. We should aggressively court the Chinese to invest in manufacturing in different areas of the economy.
After all, the Chinese, Singapore Thailand, Taiwan etc transformed their countries the same way.

He should also allow China (or another "advanced" nation ) manage Gombe state for 20 years.

He should further allow his neighbor to manage his household, nack his wife (and probably daughter).

Foolish goat. This is a man who does not think.

brain54:
Colonial mentality and low self esteem...


He doesn't even believe the country has what it takes to manage it's own power. He rather wants to push a sensitive and important infrastructure as power in the hands of foreigners.


And these are the people we have in government o.


Oga senator Goje electricity is not rocket science. What it takes is planning and willpower.


So many things are fundamentally wrong with these people chosen to participate and represent in government. No nation can ever grow when it has leaders with such mindset!

You are right that no nation with such leaders can grow with such mindset.

This should let you know that we do not have the Leaders with the will power to solve this power issues .

so it is not bad to refer to a nation who has the will power to manage this sector for a while.In this case China.

Truth is bitter!

SlavaUkraini:
https://www.thecable.ng/goje-why-nigeria-should-allow-china-manage-electricity-sector-for-20-years/

Okay you think they would now leave after the 20 years shebi?

Your naivete is on an astronomical level lol 😆

Goinhard:
When some people say that the British should have left around 1999 I tend to accept their point... Since 1960 Nigerian government by Nigerians could only provide darkness nation wide. National grid falls in love everyday.

SHUT UP AND STOP TALKING RUBBISH.

OUR FIRST POWER PLANT, KAINJI DAM WAS BUILT IN 1964.

THE BRITISH ONLY CAME HERE TO LOOT, AND BUILT NOTHING.

IF THEY WERE STILL HERE, YOU'D BE BE AN ILLITERATE BECAUSE THEY BUILT NO PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

ACCORDING TO AI CHATGPT, THEY LOOTED $50 TRILLION FROM NIGERIA.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TEACH YOU WHITE-WORSHIPPING NIGERIAN YOUTHS THAT COLONISATION WAS A SYSTEM OF ECONOMIC EXPLOITATION DESIGNED TO BENEFIT THE COLONISING NATION AND IMPOVERISH THE COLONISED NATION.

SO ASKING THEM TO ''STAY LONGER'' IS THE HEIGHT OF IGNORANCE AND BUFFOONERY.

gabbytabby:
Incompetent people always try to play woke. Yes let China try to help. Too many Nigerians are saboteurs.

MR MAN..

EVEN IF GOD COMES DOWN FROM HEAVEN TO RUN THE POWER SECTOR, HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CONVINCE NIGERIANS THAT THEY NEED TO PAY GOOD MONEY FOR ELECTRICITY.

WHICH IS WHAT FORCES THE GOVT TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY DISCOS CAN CHARGE FOR POWER.

LIBERALISING THE POWER COSTS, IE ALLOWING THE DISCOS TO CHARGE CUSTOMERS HIGH ENOUGH FOR THE DISCOS TO REINVEST IN, AND IMPROVE SERVICE DELIVERY - IS POLITCAL SUICIDE FOR ANY PRESIDENT.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

SO IF YOU LIKE, BRING PEOPLE FROM PLANET JUPITER TO RUN THE POWER SECTOR, IT'S THE SAME PROBLEM THEY WILL FACE!

Gbadugbakun:
Hate this man all you like Nigeria isn't ready to be independent. Nothing the government manages is productive. So if giving electricity to Chinese people to manage would make the light stable, I support we give it to them

Also give the Indians health sector to run
Give the south Africans communications
Give turkey defence
Give UK education
Give Japan railways
Give Australia mines
Etc
Because we are too daft to vote bad leaders every time!

Don't tow the line of that foolish senator. Nigerians are not useless as he thinks.

CodeTemplar:
Not entirely a bad idea.

Why not allow those successfully managing religious subsidy manage petrol subsidy? Or better yet, bring back petrol subsidy n take away religious subsidy.

Is it an entirely bad idea to ask the Chinese to colonise us

Gbadugbakun:
Hate this man all you like Nigeria isn't ready to be independent. Nothing the government manages is productive.

So if giving electricity to Chinese people to manage would make the light stable, I support we give it to them

Why should you and other Nigerians allow governments (local, state and federal) to manage businesses?

How well did the federal government manage telecom services in NITEL and petrochemicals in NNPC?

How much government involvement do you have in Nollywood and afrobeat music industries?

anonimi:
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The path forward for Africa lies in cultivating higher and adequate levels of personal and communal agential integrity as well as full personal responsibility and productivity. Not to mention creativity (including epistemic creativity), productive justice (such as merit and freedom), harmony and reconciliation at local and international levels, and a proper domestication of capitalism and other related values and institutions.

Africa must stop wasting her time on dreams of socialism because it is a system of wealth distribution primarily. Whereas, capitalism is a system of wealth creation primarily, and wealth has to be produced before it can be distributed.

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anonimi:
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Indorama Eleme Petrochemicals Limited (IEPL) has emerged as a major value creator in the Nigerian economy. It is responsible for the survival, growth and sustenance of many manufacturing companies in Nigeria today. A large number of plastic and allied firms depend on the Eleme-based company for petrochemical resins (or polymer resins) which serve as their raw materials.

The petrochemical company is just one of the several subsidiaries of Indorama-Nigeria Group, which also comprises Indorama Eleme Fertilizer & Chemicals Limited (IEFCL), Indorama PET Nigeria Limited, and Indorama Port Operations.

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The major resins used by plastic and allied companies are polyethylene and polypropylene. Indorama produces about 45 grades of these products for various industries. About 600 of such companies in Nigeria depend on IEPL for their survival. They are estimated to have over 90,000 workers.

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koxyz:
Nice idea From Goje, at least he's able to proffer solution to one of our major problem.

But we must take issues like capacity of Nigerians to pay real tarrif into consideration.As it stands today, government is still subsidizing electricity for us and it is one of the reasons investors are not willing to come in and Invest in that sector.


Many other factors to be considered. Capital flight and exploitation is another angle to it.

Complete liberalization is the solution to power problems in Nigeria and creating conducive atmosphere for investors to strive.

CHINESE SHOULD STEP IN

BUT I THINK STATE GOVERNMENT THAT IS BLESSED WITH HYDROCARBONS SHOULD ALSO BRING IN FOREIGN INVESTORS TO INVEST IN THE POWER SECTOR.

Nigeria should also allow Chinese people replace the senators because the people there have empty brains

Why not kuku let Togo colonize us. Anyhow country

As Nigerians are too daft and inferior to manage anything successfully ba? At least now even the govt has concluded that Nigerians can't run anything efficiently or effectively.

And after 20 years we will be worse off.

Look at all the achievements we recorded before and after independence until the whities gave us the country back.

Black people especially Nigerian politicians are such a disgrace.

Gbadugbakun:
Hate this man all you like Nigeria isn't ready to be independent. Nothing the government manages is productive. So if giving electricity to Chinese people to manage would make the light stable, I support we give it to them

If you want Nigeria to work privatise the presidency. Just as jobs are advertised, do that with the presidency where anybody from any part of the world can contest. Let the Chinese , American contest to be the president.

States have been given power to generate electricity......
Let start with Gone state as an example for others.....
Nobody is stopping any states from generating power now, everything have been decentralized.

chrisxxx:
If you want Nigeria to work privatise the presidency. Just as jobs are advertised, do that with the presidency where anybody from any part of the world can contest. Let the Chinese , American contest to be the president.

How does this sound to your hear....??
You must be a Gen Z for you to reason like this.
How can someone who have never ever lived in Nigeria, be allowed to rule Nigeria
How will such person understand our peculiarities and differences....??

brain54:
Colonial mentality and low self esteem...


He doesn't even believe the country has what it takes to manage it's own power. He rather wants to push a sensitive and important infrastructure as power in the hands of foreigners.


And these are the people we have in government o.


Oga senator Goje electricity is not rocket science. What it takes is planning and willpower.


So many things are fundamentally wrong with these people chosen to participate and represent in government. No nation can ever grow when it has leaders with such mindset!

Like you said, it takes planning and will power...then there's DISCIPLINE...
these are the ingredients, yet we're grossly lacking them.

Is power generation now rocket science, that these idiot thinks we have to call China?? Low output is what happens when we vote in candidates because of tribe, religion or vibes

gigabyte13:
How does this sound to your hear....??
You must be a Gen Z for you to reason like this.
How can someone who have never ever lived in Nigeria, be allowed to rule Nigeria
How will such person understand our peculiarities and differences....??

I can guess where you come from following your comment in a public domain. You people as it is observed here with others lack respect and lack the diplomacy of civil engagement.

Can we manage it well? I doubt.[/quote]We should also call China to come and manage our NASS.

SlavaUkraini:
https://www.thecable.ng/goje-why-nigeria-should-allow-china-manage-electricity-sector-for-20-years/

They should let someone who's competent manage the whole darn federal government. Maybe KPMG or Delloitte.

Gbadugbakun:
Hate this man all you like Nigeria isn't ready to be independent. Nothing the government manages is productive. So if giving electricity to Chinese people to manage would make the light stable, I support we give it to them

sometimes I wonder the way some people reason . This man is 100% correct infact they should beg them to come and run everything in this country.

Fortune118005:
Is Nigeria not a sovereign nation, why should Nigeria allow China to manage any of her sectors?
Can we go to China to manage any of their sectors?

Sovereign nation of darkness, it's high time Nigeria swallow her pride and do the right thing, obviously Nigeria can't manage this sector effectively

Illeterates.
I am designing power grid for uk.
Yet never do we get the opportunity to do anything in nigeria.

You Illeterates will be there making foolish decisions.

You have NIEEE.
Hand over the sector to NIEEE.

Why not the whole Country...ba sense

SlavaUkraini:
https://www.thecable.ng/goje-why-nigeria-should-allow-china-manage-electricity-sector-for-20-years/

Well Senator Goje is not entirely wrong.
But before that is done, why don't he propose a bill that will allow the Chinese government or any other advance country as he mention come and occupy all political positions from Federal to State and Local government, National Assembly(Both houses), all State House Assemblies, all State and Federal Universities, President, VP, State Governors, Deputy Governors, PAs, SSA, etc, etc, run and operate the Nigerian nation for 20 years and hand over to us...
This should be the proposal he should be doing and not that no sense he is talking over there......

I bet you, he is among those who give out wheelbarrow and shovel as empowerment tools to his constituents.

Not a bad idea at all. We manage it ourselves for many years and keep failing due to our bad and corrupt character. At least this will bring a little sanity into the sector again

In as much i don't really subscribe to this idea but our own people too handling our power sectors especially distribution also need to up their game placing profit first, more and above the service delivery will not get us the level we are aiming for. They must be ready to invest much first before expecting profit,many distribution infrastructures have decayed, obsolete and need change. It shouldn't be the responsibility of consumers to buy transformers, electric poles, cables and even meter.

When our distribution companies give meters to their customers there is assurance of recouping their money back at least 90 percent.

SlavaUkraini:
https://www.thecable.ng/goje-why-nigeria-should-allow-china-manage-electricity-sector-for-20-years/

Notwithstanding the implications on our national psyche it is a road worth travelling. Is that not playing already in the telecoms sector largely run by South Africans and Indians. Corruption is what will not allow us go forward on all fronts. I would prefer Britain or USA though considering the language affinity with them as China is certain to want to use the occasion to advance their linguistic and political systems which are bound to be targeted at subsuming ours. Besides China is known to build into any system they deliver some way of spying on other countries and our national security deserves to be protected.

Guestmale:
In as much i don't really subscribe to this idea but our own people too handling our power sectors especially distribution also need to up their game placing profit first, more and above the service delivery will not get us the level we are aiming for. They must be ready to invest much first before expecting profit,many distribution infrastructures have decayed, obsolete and need change. It shouldn't be the responsibility of consumers to buy transformers, electric poles, cables and even meter.

When our distribution companies give meters to their customers there is assurance of recouping their money back at least 90 percent.

Sir, corruption is the problem. Take it out of government hands and you should soon see the difference. We should avoid France and China and Germany who are more adept at playing ball with our corrupt leaders and public servants than U.S.A.