₦airaland Forum

Angelfrost:
Lol... You went to a court whose judges are salaried by the ruling party to adjudicate a sensitive matter regarding opposition party leadership, and you are expecting what outcome exactly?!!

That's as comically ridiculous as demanding or expecting an INEC whose leadership was practically handpicked by the ruling party to deliver a free and fair election that goes against the their interests.

Abeg... Tell me another thing.

Who was paying the court that ceded all the elective positions won by APC to PDP in 2019 in Zamfara? Who handpicked the INEC that failed to recognise APC candidates in River State in 2019 general election? I don't want to call you mumu and hypocrite sha

OctavianAC:
That's how it used to be in Nigeria when we have true democracy, and when the court announce the right faction they will takeover with their candidates without INEC interference.

When has it happened like that and give us at least one instance?

Penkelems:
What will happen if someone contest under the ADC and wins?

how will that happen when adc is not on the ballot.

Katell:
Adjourning a political party case during political season is an injustice on its own. Which case deserves accelerated hearing more than this ? How is the judiciary want to defend that they are politically neutral ?

If the opposition are inconsequential, then allow them to breath.

Why didn't you ask the court to accelerate the one that later made APC lose everything in Zamfra?

babajero:
how will that happen when adc is not on the ballot.

So what platform is Atiku contesting?

Peacecore:
When has it happened like that and give us at least one instance?

One clear example is the crisis in the People's Democratic Party (PDP)⁠� around 2016–2017, when there were rival factions led by:
Ahmed Makarfi faction
Ali Modu Sheriff faction
Both groups claimed leadership of the party. During the crisis, INEC largely avoided taking sides and waited for the courts to determine the legitimate leadership before fully recognizing one faction. Eventually, the issue was settled by the Nigerian Supreme Court in favor of Makarfi’s faction.
Another example is the Labour Party Nigeria⁠� leadership disputes in recent years, where factions emerged and INEC stated that leadership issues are often subject to party constitutions and court decisions rather than immediate interference.
The reason INEC often does not interfere directly is because political parties in Nigeria are generally expected to manage their internal affairs, except where electoral laws are clearly violated or court judgments require INEC action.

tenpipsperday:
Wake up and smell the coffee

Am awake, I don’t smell coffee, I drink coffee.

Haaa!!!! Na big trap

anonimi:
Was that how he was miles ahead of his protege Obiano when he kicked him out of APGA 12 years ago, before Atiku picked him up in 2019 and gave him a national platform that was much bigger than the tribalistic, regional APGA stateg

You have a personal hatred for PO for even attempt to propagate a lie that you yourself don't believe.

Jayhome24:
I told dem for bringing obi on board we go do ADC a very strong thing dem say I dey talk lie na NDC we wan strikee now we have already gathered enough to hit dem raw and tear it apart cus we warned dem not to register obi in NDC dem nor listen dem eyes go clear, na from dickson and kwakwanso we go start am den face dat woman wey dey claime iron lady we go turn her to cottonwood lady soon.

Quote and yarn shit I don't give a damn.

Stop yarning dust abeg

Obi is a very smart politician.

This is what they want Peter obi to be wasting his time on untill election is over . Democracy is at risk in Nigeria. A situation where all opposition parties are in trouble while the ruling party has no issue ...is questionable ...

OctavianAC:
One clear example is the crisis in the People's Democratic Party (PDP)⁠� around 2016–2017, when there were rival factions led by:
Ahmed Makarfi faction
Ali Modu Sheriff faction
Both groups claimed leadership of the party. During the crisis, INEC largely avoided taking sides and waited for the courts to determine the legitimate leadership before fully recognizing one faction. Eventually, the issue was settled by the Nigerian Supreme Court in favor of Makarfi’s faction.
Another example is the Labour Party Nigeria⁠� leadership disputes in recent years, where factions emerged and INEC stated that leadership issues are often subject to party constitutions and court decisions rather than immediate interference.
The reason INEC often does not interfere directly is because political parties in Nigeria are generally expected to manage their internal affairs, except where electoral laws are clearly violated or court judgments require INEC action.

Was there elections during the crises? I'm asking because the NLer asked what the fate of anyone who contests election and win in ADC and maybe his faction fails to win in court at the end.

Penkelems:
So what platform is Atiku contesting?

You have to go and ask tinubu and inec that question.

Peacecore:
Was there elections during the crises? I'm asking because the NLer asked what the fate of anyone who contests election and win in ADC and maybe his faction fails to win in court at the end.

Yes. In Nigeria, there have been situations where elections were conducted during a party faction crisis, and after the courts later recognized the legitimate faction, candidates connected to the recognized faction benefited politically or were restored.

A major example involved the All Progressives Congress (APC) in Rivers State before the 2019 elections.
There was a severe factional dispute between groups loyal to:
Rotimi Amaechi
Magnus Abe
The crisis went to court over who conducted valid party primaries. Eventually, the Supreme Court ruled that the APC did not conduct valid primaries in Rivers State. Because of that judgment, INEC excluded APC candidates from the 2019 Rivers elections entirely. Even though elections held, APC candidates could not participate because the court decision came before the election process was finalized. But somehow, somewhere, the election were done again and Rotimi Chibike Ameachi was reinstated as the governor, without EYENECK, LONGNECK INEC cutting short the glory of the man and that of his entire State.

Another important example is the People's Democratic Party (PDP) governorship crisis in Zamfara State in 2019 involving the APC. The APC actually won the governorship and legislative elections in the state, but the Supreme Court later ruled that the party’s primaries were invalid due to internal factional disputes. As a result:
APC winners lost their positions.
The candidates of the People's Democratic Party (PDP), who came second in the election, were declared winners and sworn into office, BY THE COURT, not EYE/LONGNECK INECK
That case showed that party faction and primary-election disputes can overturn election victories after the election has already been conducted.
So in Nigeria:
Elections have held during factional crises.
Candidates have lost offices because their party lost in court.
Other candidates have been restored or declared winners after court judgments on party legitimacy or primaries.

Okay, let's compare that to now. What has Tinubu, the NASS and the Judiciary done to this country now to shortchange the glory and future of this entire nation. So, if anybody wants to kill a politician's career, it is just to silent him through INEC. Is it fair? Is INEC a court?

Peacecore:
When has it happened like that and give us at least one instance?

Yes. In Nigeria, there have been situations where elections were conducted during a party faction crisis, and after the courts later recognized the legitimate faction, candidates connected to the recognized faction benefited politically or were restored.

A major example involved the All Progressives Congress (APC) in Rivers State before the 2019 elections.
There was a severe factional dispute between groups loyal to:
Rotimi Amaechi
Magnus Abe
The crisis went to court over who conducted valid party primaries. Eventually, the Supreme Court ruled that the APC did not conduct valid primaries in Rivers State. Because of that judgment, INEC excluded APC candidates from the 2019 Rivers elections entirely. Even though elections held, APC candidates could not participate because the court decision came before the election process was finalized. But somehow, somewhere, the election were done again and Rotimi Chibike Ameachi was reinstated as the governor, without EYENECK, LONGNECK INEC cutting short the glory of the man and that of his entire State.

Another important example is the People's Democratic Party (PDP) governorship crisis in Zamfara State in 2019 involving the APC. The APC actually won the governorship and legislative elections in the state, but the Supreme Court later ruled that the party’s primaries were invalid due to internal factional disputes. As a result:
APC winners lost their positions.
The candidates of the People's Democratic Party (PDP), who came second in the election, were declared winners and sworn into office, BY THE COURT, not EYE/LONGNECK INECK
That case showed that party faction and primary-election disputes can overturn election victories after the election has already been conducted.
So in Nigeria:
Elections have held during factional crises.
Candidates have lost offices because their party lost in court.
Other candidates have been restored or declared winners after court judgments on party legitimacy or primaries.

Okay, let's compare that to now. What has Tinubu, the NASS and the Judiciary done to this country now to shortchange the glory and future of this entire nation. So, if anybody wants to kill a politician's career, it is just to silent him through INEC. Is it fair? Is INEC a court?

Penkelems:
So what platform is Atiku contesting?

I can honestly see him going to NDC, after all of those ones can accept Obí and the wàhálà his Obidients would potentially wrought, they will accept anyone.

Irony1:
Stop yarning dust abeg

E pain am. Nor cry, ndooh!!!

OctavianAC:
Yes. In Nigeria, there have been situations where elections were conducted during a party faction crisis, and after the courts later recognized the legitimate faction, candidates connected to the recognized faction benefited politically or were restored.

A major example involved the All Progressives Congress (APC) in Rivers State before the 2019 elections.
There was a severe factional dispute between groups loyal to:
Rotimi Amaechi
Magnus Abe
The crisis went to court over who conducted valid party primaries. Eventually, the Supreme Court ruled that the APC did not conduct valid primaries in Rivers State. Because of that judgment, INEC excluded APC candidates from the 2019 Rivers elections entirely. Even though elections held, APC candidates could not participate because the court decision came before the election process was finalized. But somehow, somewhere, the election were done again and Rotimi Chibike Ameachi was reinstated as the governor, without EYENECK, LONGNECK INEC cutting short the glory of the man and that of his entire State.

Another important example is the People's Democratic Party (PDP) governorship crisis in Zamfara State in 2019 involving the APC. The APC actually won the governorship and legislative elections in the state, but the Supreme Court later ruled that the party’s primaries were invalid due to internal factional disputes. As a result:
APC winners lost their positions.
The candidates of the People's Democratic Party (PDP), who came second in the election, were declared winners and sworn into office, BY THE COURT, not EYE/LONGNECK INECK
That case showed that party faction and primary-election disputes can overturn election victories after the election has already been conducted.
So in Nigeria:
Elections have held during factional crises.
Candidates have lost offices because their party lost in court.
Other candidates have been restored or declared winners after court judgments on party legitimacy or primaries.

Okay, let's compare that to now. What has Tinubu, the NASS and the Judiciary done to this country now to shortchange the glory and future of this entire nation. So, if anybody wants to kill a politician's career, it is just to silent him through INEC. Is it fair? Is INEC a court?

Thanks for your explanation but the examples you gave are actually contradictory to your claim. The guys asked what's the fate of anyone that contest election and won in ADC? That's what we want you to address.

OctavianAC:
Yes. In Nigeria, there have been situations where elections were conducted during a party faction crisis, and after the courts later recognized the legitimate faction, candidates connected to the recognized faction benefited politically or were restored.

A major example involved the All Progressives Congress (APC) in Rivers State before the 2019 elections.
There was a severe factional dispute between groups loyal to:
Rotimi Amaechi
Magnus Abe
The crisis went to court over who conducted valid party primaries. Eventually, the Supreme Court ruled that the APC did not conduct valid primaries in Rivers State. Because of that judgment, INEC excluded APC candidates from the 2019 Rivers elections entirely. Even though elections held, APC candidates could not participate because the court decision came before the election process was finalized. But somehow, somewhere, the election were done again and Rotimi Chibike Ameachi was reinstated as the governor, without EYENECK, LONGNECK INEC cutting short the glory of the man and that of his entire State.

Another important example is the People's Democratic Party (PDP) governorship crisis in Zamfara State in 2019 involving the APC. The APC actually won the governorship and legislative elections in the state, but the Supreme Court later ruled that the party’s primaries were invalid due to internal factional disputes. As a result:
APC winners lost their positions.
The candidates of the People's Democratic Party (PDP), who came second in the election, were declared winners and sworn into office, BY THE COURT, not EYE/LONGNECK INECK
That case showed that party faction and primary-election disputes can overturn election victories after the election has already been conducted.
So in Nigeria:
Elections have held during factional crises.
Candidates have lost offices because their party lost in court.
Other candidates have been restored or declared winners after court judgments on party legitimacy or primaries.

Okay, let's compare that to now. What has Tinubu, the NASS and the Judiciary done to this country now to shortchange the glory and future of this entire nation. So, if anybody wants to kill a politician's career, it is just to silent him through INEC. Is it fair? Is INEC a court?

Go through what you wrote and see that you're contradicting yourself bro. Lemme tell you something, any nomination form signed the faction that later lose in court is null and void that's all you have to know.

Peacecore:
Go through what you wrote and see that you're contradicting yourself bro. Lemme tell you something, any nomination form signed the faction that later lose in court is null and void that's all you have to know.

The discussion started with INEC interference in parties internal affairs, and i have given enough cases where INEC did not interfere until the court settled the case.

Peacecore:
Thanks for your explanation but the examples you gave are actually contradictory to your claim. The guys asked what's the fate of anyone that contest election and won in ADC? That's what we want you to address.

When you sense what INECK is trying to do now, you will konw that the plan is to make sure that the entire ADC party is disqualified such that there will be no ADC on the ballot paper. So, how can you contest in ADC then?

Jayhome24:
E pain am. Nor cry, ndooh!!!

How did it pain me?

OctavianAC:
When you sense what INECK is trying to do now, you will konw that the plan is to make sure that the entire ADC party is disqualified such that there will be no ADC on the ballot paper. So, how can you contest in ADC then?

How's this INEC matter? Will a court of law order INEC to recognise a faction and they'll say no? Stop being hateful and be logic. When INEC disqualified APC in Rivers I think you were happy but the question is under whose power did they do that? The power of the INEC chairman or that of the law?

OctavianAC:
The discussion started with INEC interference in parties internal affairs, and i have given enough cases where INEC did not interfere until the court settled the case.

Can you tell us how INEC interfered in party internal affairs? Just let us understand.

Peacecore:
Can you tell us how INEC interfered in party internal affairs? Just let us understand.

Are you in this country at all? Was it not INEC that said that they won't recognize PDP and ADC candidates because they are having cases in the court? How is the court cases their problem?

If i explain to you you won't believe or accept my explanation. Just go and ask ChatGPT.

Ask it like this.

Has INEC not recently interfered in the ADC and PDP internal party affairs?

And the result will be shown this way.

Yes — recently, INEC has been accused by some politicians and observers of interfering in the internal affairs of both the People's Democratic Party (PDP)⁠� and the African Democratic Congress (ADC)⁠�, especially regarding leadership recognition, party correspondence, and factional disputes.
For the PDP:
INEC questioned who had authority to sign party notices and communications regarding PDP meetings and leadership matters. �
Tori.ng +2
PDP officials publicly argued that INEC had “no role” in ordinary party meetings and accused the commission of interfering in internal party affairs. �
Tori.ng +2
In some cases, INEC refused to recognize certain PDP factions or national officers because of existing court orders and unresolved litigation. �
Businessday NG +1
For the ADC:
INEC reportedly stopped recognizing or receiving communications from some ADC leadership groups during the party’s leadership crisis. �
ICIR News +2
The ADC accused INEC of actions that could prevent the party from fielding candidates in future elections. �
ICIR News +1
INEC later said its actions were based on court rulings and the need to maintain the “status quo” while the legal disputes continued. �
Politics Nigeria +1
So, compared to older cases where INEC often stayed completely neutral and said “go to court,” the commission in recent years has become more active in:
recognizing or refusing to recognize factions,
accepting or rejecting party documents,
monitoring compliance with court orders and the Electoral Act.
INEC usually argues that it is not interfering politically, but simply obeying court judgments and electoral regulations. Critics, however, say some of these actions amount to interference in internal party affairs.

Peacecore:
How's this INEC matter? Will a court of law order INEC to recognise a faction and they'll say no? Stop being hateful and be logic. When INEC disqualified APC in Rivers I think you were happy but the question is under whose power did they do that? The power of the INEC chairman or that of the law?

So, until when the court will ask EYENECK not to recognize all the major parties in Nigeria, except APC before you will know that they're obeying court order.

Just watch if they won't be any court case in ADC now because of Obi/Kwankwaso.

OctavianAC:
So, until when the court will ask EYENECK not to recognize all the major parties in Nigeria, except APC before you will know that they're obeying court order.

Just watch if they won't be any court case in ADC now because of Obi/Kwankwaso.

You're not telling yourself the truth sha

OctavianAC:
Are you in this country at all? Was it not INEC that said that they won't recognize PDP and ADC candidates because they are having cases in the court? How is the court cases their problem?

If i explain to you you won't believe or accept my explanation. Just go and ask ChatGPT.

Ask it like this.

Has INEC not recently interfered in the ADC and PDP internal party affairs?

And the result will be shown this way.

Yes — recently, [b]INEC has been accused by some politicians [/b]and observers of interfering in the internal affairs of both the People's Democratic Party (PDP)⁠� and the African Democratic Congress (ADC)⁠�, especially regarding leadership recognition, party correspondence, and factional disputes.
For the PDP:
INEC questioned who had authority to sign party notices and communications regarding PDP meetings and leadership matters. �
Tori.ng +2
PDP officials publicly argued that INEC had “no role” in ordinary party meetings and accused the commission of interfering in internal party affairs. �
Tori.ng +2
In some cases, INEC refused to recognize certain PDP factions or national officers because of existing court orders and unresolved litigation. �
Businessday NG +1
For the ADC:
INEC reportedly stopped recognizing or receiving communications from some ADC leadership groups during the party’s leadership crisis. �
ICIR News +2
The ADC accused INEC of actions that could prevent the party from fielding candidates in future elections. �
ICIR News +1
INEC later said its actions were based on court rulings and the need to maintain the “status quo” while the legal disputes continued. �
Politics Nigeria +1
So, compared to older cases where INEC often stayed completely neutral and said “go to court,” the commission in recent years has become more active in:
recognizing or refusing to recognize factions,
accepting or rejecting party documents,
monitoring compliance with court orders and the Electoral Act.
INEC usually argues that it is not interfering politically, but simply obeying court judgments and electoral regulations. Critics, however, say some of these actions amount to interference in internal party affairs.

Accusation doesn't mean a fact. If ante bellum from court is no longer a court order then I wonder what it is. You should also Chatgpt INEC's own reason and not what politicians accused them of.