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malware:
Quran does not discuss physical details of the Prophet's anatomy. However, according to seerah, which is history of the Prophet, as mentioned by Ibn Ishaq, the Prophet's grandfather, Abdul-Muttalib performed the circumcision on the 7th day after His birth, gave him his name and held a feast.

And the same quran could discussed physical details of your Isa but left that of allah's messenger undiscussed abi

Where is the hadith that says your anobi was circumcised by his grandfather

NOETHNICITY:
Is this supposed to be in the Quran?
You guys are so ignorant about Islam
The Quran is a story book about the prophet. It is a book about guidance for mankind

So that of your Isa that is in quran supposed to be there because quran is not a story book right? Who deceive you like this in islam

Honestly, I thought you were going to show an evidence that states that he was not circumcised. I knew it's all about pushing assumptions. Your question is only as wise as asking who circumcised Jesus in the bible? Can any christian answer the question with that precondition?

Antiislaam:
So who circumcise your anobi according to your quran?

Must it be written in the Holy Qur'an before we know that he was circumcised?

Antiislaam:
You called it assumption when it is not written in your quran that your anobi was circumcised

Why should men be circumcised while women should not? The size that is cut off, if added, will some women still complain of small gbola? Why should men be subject to such level of pain and trauma just to fulfill cultural and religious norms? I have come to realize that I this life, men's head are stones while that of women are eggs.

numericalguy:
Who told you that ? Stop allowing your hatred and ignorance to control you.

Circumcisions is part of Islam

My brother during my service year a lady from Aba was asking me why Muslim men don't circumcise. I was like are you serious, you mean we stay in the same country and yet you don't know that male circumcision is part of islam. I came to the conclusion that My people from down east really have no idea what's going on at the other side.
No wonder we just hate each other unnecessarily .

One oNce asked me he heard as a Muslim if you kill a Christian you will go to heaven ..
My brother I just open mouth they wonder what do this people take us for.

GreenCovering:
Honestly, I thought you were going to show an evidence that states that he was not circumcised. I knew it's all about pushing assumptions.

In all your books I have read, no where it is written that your anobi was circumcised. If you have any evidence that he was circumcised, bring it up

GreenCovering:
Your question is only as wise as asking who circumcised Jesus in the bible? Can any christian answer the question with that precondition?

YES, Luke 2:21

GreenCovering:
Must it be written in the Holy Qur'an before we know that he was circumcised?

Even if it was written in your hadith, why not show us as simple as ABC

I want to ask women here,do you like uncircumcised men? I heard they transmit diseases through their foreskin if not properly maintained.

Most Aboki I have seen their penis are not circumcised, you can see it when they are urinating, and it's usually very long.

Here is Luke 2:21
And when eight days were completed for the circumcision of the Child, His name was called Jesus...

Certainly this entry in the bible did not answer the format of the challenge that you posed, for christians: So who circumcise your Jesus according to the Bible?

That is how you people come to Nairaland to deceive people with your made up stories.

If I were to follow your pattern, I can begin to push my assumptions too. Because the quoted sentence is as vague as it can be. It did not even categorically answer the question if Jesus was circumcised. Us muslims accepting Jesus as circumcised is not even based on the strength of the writing, if any. It is based solely on our upbringing as muslims.

According to the bases for recognising religious facts, the entire book of Luke would have been categorised unsubstantiated and weak (daef) in Islam and his book would have been thrown out at first sighting. Because Luke never met Jesus and did not tell us who he got his writing about Jesus from in a manner of I learnt this here or there and from so and so. Yet his book is inside the bible as if it was revealed of God. In Islam, that kind of book could not have been accepted among good sources of Hadees let alone the Divine Qur'an.

Ibn al-Qayyim cited the historian Ibn al-Adeem who reported that Abdul Muttalib (The Prophet, s.a.w., grandfather) circumcised the Prophet on the seventh day after his birth and held a banquet in his honor, according to a report from Ibn Abbas.

- In Tuhfat al-Mawlood by Ibn al-Qayyim.

Other scholars noted that at the time, circumcision was already the tradition of the Arabian tribe that the holy Prophet, s.a.w., belonged.

AntiisIam:
In all your books I have read, no where it is written that your anobi was circumcised. If you have any evidence that he was circumcised, bring it up

YES, Luke 2:21

Even if it was written in your hadith, why not show us as simple as ABC

Are you tryna tell me that Ronaldo and Mbappe aren't circumcised owing to the low rate in Portugal and France?

GreenCovering:
Here is Luke 2:21
And when eight days were completed for the circumcision of the Child, His name was called Jesus...

Certainly this entry in the bible did not answer the format of the challenge that you posed, for christians: So who circumcise your Jesus according to the Bible?

That is how you people come to Nairaland to deceive people with your made up stories.

If I were to follow your pattern, I can begin to push my assumptions too. Because the quoted sentence is as vague as it can be. It did not even categorically answer the question if Jesus was circumcised. Us muslims accepting Jesus as circumcised is not even based on the strength of the writing, if any. It is based solely on our upbringing as muslims.

According to the bases for recognising religious facts, the entire book of Luke would have been categorised unsubstantiated and weak (daef) in Islam and his book would have been thrown out at first sighting. Because Luke never met Jesus and did not tell us who he got his writing about Jesus from in a manner of I learnt this here or there and from so and so. Yet his book is inside the bible as if it was revealed of God. In Islam, that kind of book could not have been accepted among good sources of Hadees let alone the Divine Qur'an.

The traditional Church have a celebration on January 1st called, the Feast of the Circumcision. It is a reminder of how Mary and Joseph from the beginning were determined to bring Jesus up in the way of Jehovah.

They were not disobedient to the Law of Moses which clearly stated that the boy needed to be circumcised on the 8th day after his birth (Lev 12:3).

Mohel the man who circumcised Jesus, when it was time to circumcise the child, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he was conceived.

He was a child of the covenant of Abraham whose blessing was for the nations. They were not disobedient either to the angel who had instructed Mary to name her son Jesus (Matthew 1:21). Jesus Christ is also for the nations, for all people, the Saviour, Christ the Lord.

GreenCovering:
Ibn al-Qayyim cited the historian Ibn al-Adeem who reported that Abdul Muttalib (The Prophet, s.a.w., grandfather) circumcised the Prophet on the seventh day after his birth and held a banquet in his honor, according to a report from Ibn Abbas.

- In Tuhfat al-Mawlood by Ibn al-Qayyim.

Other scholars noted that at the time, circumcision was already the tradition of the Arabian tribe that the holy Prophet, s.a.w., belonged.

From where you copied this from, didn't you see it there that it is very weak (da‘eef) or you intentionally look away that aspect? Circumcision on the seventh day, look for an authentic hadith to proof yourself and not a weak one

Raf4:
But majority of northerners (male) are not circumcised

Says who ?
How did you come to that conclusion circumcision is part of Islam ,maybe northern pagans ,because there are a lot of pagans up north here even though most northern leaders always try to deny and cover it up

Raf4:
But majority of northerners (male) are not circumcised

How did you know?
Maybe the non Muslims

The festival is not empirical to the bible text in luke 2:21, it built on top of it. But if the starting text shows vagueness, then the possibility for alternative interpretation is not removed by the festival.

Mohel is a title. So don't try to pass it off as the name of the man who circumcised Jesus because you want to prove by force that you knew who circumcised Jesus.

So pick your ambiguity and stick with it. Believing in a story that may not be better qualified than a fabricated hadith (mawdu) in Islam standardisation or believing in one that may be weak (daef) but does not necessarily mean fabricated.

AntiisIam:
The traditional Church have a celebration on January 1st called, the Feast of the Circumcision. It is a reminder of how Mary and Joseph from the beginning were determined to bring Jesus up in the way of Jehovah.

They were not disobedient to the Law of Moses which clearly stated that the boy needed to be circumcised on the 8th day after his birth (Lev 12:3).

Mohel the man who circumcised Jesus, when it was time to circumcise the child, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he was conceived.

He was a child of the covenant of Abraham whose blessing was for the nations. They were not disobedient either to the angel who had instructed Mary to name her son Jesus (Matthew 1:21). Jesus Christ is also for the nations, for all people, the Saviour, Christ the Lord.

From where you copied this from, didn't you see it there that it is very weak (da‘eef) or you intentionally look away that aspect? Circumcision on the seventh day, look for an authentic hadith to proof yourself and not a weak one

Luke was an Evangelist like Matthew, John and Mark. LUKE MET MARY MOTHER OF JESUS IN EPHESUS, It was there that Mary shared the Life of Jesus with Luke.

Written by Luke, the birth of Jesus included the only Biblical Story of the Virgin Birth of Jesus. “The Story was Written in Ephesus” and was told by Mary to Luke.

GreenCovering:
Here is Luke 2:21
And when eight days were completed for the circumcision of the Child, His name was called Jesus...

Certainly this entry in the bible did not answer the format of the challenge that you posed, for christians: So who circumcise your Jesus according to the Bible?

That is how you people come to Nairaland to deceive people with your made up stories.

If I were to follow your pattern, I can begin to push my assumptions too. Because the quoted sentence is as vague as it can be. It did not even categorically answer the question if Jesus was circumcised. Us muslims accepting Jesus as circumcised is not even based on the strength of the writing, if any. It is based solely on our upbringing as muslims.

According to the bases for recognising religious facts, the entire book of Luke would have been categorised unsubstantiated and weak (daef) in Islam and his book would have been thrown out at first sighting. Because Luke never met Jesus and did not tell us who he got his writing about Jesus from in a manner of I learnt this here or there and from so and so. Yet his book is inside the bible as if it was revealed of God. In Islam, that kind of book could not have been accepted among good sources of Hadees let alone the Divine Qur'an.

Ibn al-Qayyim cited the historian Ibn al-Adeem who reported that Abdul Muttalib (The Prophet, s.a.w., grandfather) circumcised the Prophet on the seventh day after his birth and held a banquet in his honor, according to a report from Ibn Abbas.

- In Tuhfat al-Mawlood by Ibn al-Qayyim.

Other scholars noted that at the time, circumcision was already the tradition of the Arabian tribe that the holy Prophet, s.a.w., belonged.

No genuine source or authentic hadith will ever tell you that Jibreel or Abd Muttalib circumcised your prophet or born circumcised. If you have any authentic hadith, share it with me

My lovely brother, Antiislam, you are doing a great job here, thumbs-up 👍

GreenCovering:
The festival is not empirical to the bible text in luke 2:21, it built on top of it. But if the starting text shows vagueness, then the possibility for alternative interpretation is not removed by the festival.

Mohel is a title. So don't try to pass it off as the name of the man who circumcised Jesus because you want to prove by force that you knew who circumcised Jesus.

So pick your ambiguity and stick with it. Believing in a story that may not be better qualified than a fabricated hadith (mawdu) in Islam standardisation or believing in one that may be weak (daef) but does not necessarily mean fabricated.

See where you missed it again!

Mohel is not just a title

Mohel is a rabbi who is expertly trained to perform the brit milah (Jewish ritual circumcision).

AntiisIam:
And the same quran could discussed physical details of your Isa but left that of allah's messenger undiscussed abi

Where is the hadith that says your anobi was circumcised by his grandfather

I will not engage you because of your moniker, it's a futile effort.

Idaytesj29:
So many ignorant misconceptions that you have held about the muslims that you are told by your evil or ignorant pastors just for the sake of religious division are not true. Re educate yourself for a better society and be more tolerant

You, be more tolerant. Where did you meet with those "evil and ignorant pastors"?
Try to be courteous when you speak about other religions that are not yours.

GreenCovering:
The festival is not empirical to the bible text in luke 2:21, it built on top of it. But if the starting text shows vagueness, then the possibility for alternative interpretation is not removed by the festival.

Seems you can't comprehend or you lack comprehensive skills

GreenCovering:
Mohel is a title. So don't try to pass it off as the name of the man who circumcised Jesus because you want to prove by force that you knew who circumcised Jesus.

We have record on the circumcision of Jesus Christ and to proof yourself on the circumcision of your anobi, you are struggling with the internet to help you out on the big mess you find yourself

GreenCovering:
So pick your ambiguity and stick with it. Believing in a story that may not be better qualified than a fabricated hadith (mawdu) in Islam standardisation or believing in one that may be weak (daef) but does not necessarily mean fabricated.

Boy, don't hide under ambiguity for your escaping route. I understand all run away tactics you muslims here do adopted when been cornered

I said your anobi was not circumcised, you called it ambiguity just because you can't proof yourself that he was circumcised. See Bobo, use google from now till next year, you will never see it from a genuine source or authentic hadith that he was circumcised. Don't tag this as ambiguity just because we are revealing and exposing what you knoweth not

malware:
I will not engage you because of your moniker, it's a futile effort.

For every Anti-christian, there must be an Anti-islam

When you don't have proof, evidence to engage, it is not possible to engage someone with proofs and evidences

RightChanneI:
Luke was an Evangelist like Matthew, John and Mark. LUKE MET MARY MOTHER OF JESUS IN EPHESUS, It was there that Mary shared the Life of Jesus with Luke.

Written by Luke, the birth of Jesus included the only Biblical Story of the Virgin Birth of Jesus. “The Story was Written in Ephesus” and was told by Mary to Luke.




No genuine source or authentic hadith will ever tell you that Jibreel or Abd Muttalib circumcised your prophet or born circumcised. If you have any authentic hadith, share it with me

My lovely brother, Antiislam, you are doing a great job here, thumbs-up 👍

Thank you brotherly

You managed to put together a meaningless post here. Sorry

AntiisIam:
Seems you can't comprehend or you lack comprehensive skills

We have record on the circumcision of Jesus Christ and to proof yourself on the circumcision of your anobi, you are struggling with the internet to help you out on the big mess you find yourself

Boy, don't hide under ambiguity for your escaping route. I understand all run away tactics you muslims here do adopted when been cornered

I said your anobi was not circumcised, you called it ambiguity just because you can't proof yourself that he was circumcised. See Bobo, use google from now till next year, you will never see it from a genuine source or authentic hadith that he was circumcised. Don't tag this as ambiguity just because we are revealing and exposing what you knoweth not

GreenCovering:
According to the bases for recognising religious facts, the entire book of Luke would have been categorised unsubstantiated and weak (daef) in Islam and his book would have been thrown out at first sighting. Because Luke never met Jesus and did not tell us who he got his writing about Jesus from in a manner of I learnt this here or there and from so and so. Yet his book is inside the bible as if it was revealed of God. In Islam, that kind of book could not have been accepted among good sources of Hadees let alone the Divine Qur'an.

Ibn al-Qayyim cited the historian Ibn al-Adeem who reported that Abdul Muttalib (The Prophet, s.a.w., grandfather) circumcised the Prophet on the seventh day after his birth and held a banquet in his honor, according to a report from Ibn Abbas.

- In Tuhfat al-Mawlood by Ibn al-Qayyim.

Other scholars noted that at the time, circumcision was already the tradition of the Arabian tribe that the holy Prophet, s.a.w., belonged.

Take note of this:


Luke was an Evangelist like Matthew, John and Mark. LUKE MET MARY MOTHER OF JESUS IN EPHESUS, It was there that Mary shared the Life of Jesus with Luke.

malware:
Quran does not discuss physical details of the Prophet's anatomy. However, according to seerah, which is history of the Prophet, as mentioned by Ibn Ishaq, the Prophet's grandfather, Abdul-Muttalib performed the circumcision on the 7th day after His birth, gave him his name and held a feast.

So your own circumcision is 7th day after birth?

grandstar:
It isnt even compulsory for Christian malea to get baptized ( Read Galatians 5;2).

and how is baptism related to circumcision

In this context, circumcision represents a work of the law, an outward religious observance intended to earn or secure God's favour not male organ circumcision

Similarly, the lack of directness in luke 2:21 leaves room for other interpretations.

It is also possible that the truth is somewhere hidden in the at bolded. To start with, don't you think that this lack of certainty in luke 2:21 could be pointing to Jesus also being born circumcised already. I mean for someone having been born through virgin birth, is that too much for Allah to do also? Think about it. May be christianity lost that important aspect of his delivery and Allah decided to remind the world again when the holy Prophet (s.a.w.) was born.

RightChanneI:
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No genuine source or authentic hadith will ever tell you that Jibreel or Abd Muttalib circumcised your prophet or born circumcised. If you have any authentic hadith, share it with me
...

GreenCovering:
You managed to put together a meaningless post here. Sorry

No be you

So because internet disappointed in helping you to get the fact on circumcision of your anobi means what I put together is meaningless abi

Why lying before when you can't defend yourself from an authentic hadith

AgentNairaland:
So your own circumcision is 7th day after birth?

There is no specific time, but mostly up North, children get circumcised shortly before they're admitted into Nursery school. It's a kind of ceremonious something that friends and families will be killing ram, goat, sheep chicken and buying things for the circumcised child till he heals. Additionally, children get circumcised in group not isolation. The family will search through the extended family and find children that are of circumcision age and circumcise them together in group.

IamAsiri:
You, be more tolerant. Where did you meet with those "evil and ignorant pastors"?
Try to be courteous when you speak about other religions that are not yours.

That's exactly what I am saying and I am also doing what I am preaching

Lithiumite:
But there are several northerners thats are known not to be circumcised,I have seen several but its very rare in the south.

Hangulsaram:
Are you serious, but almost all the Muslims that I know(Northern Muslim) to be precise are uncircumcised. Also always heard people say Muslims guys don't undergo circumcision

You have allowed yourself to be ruled by your deep ignorance and hatred for Muslims to the extent of silly creating lies.

In Islam, all males are circumcised because it is part of Islam and the northerners you mentioned are all circumcised if they are Muslims but you are too deep in ignorance and hatred to know that.

Who tell you that Luke 2:21 has no direction?

GreenCovering:
Similarly, the lack of directness in luke 2:21 leaves room for other interpretations.

Did you read what I sent to you here 👇

Luke was an Evangelist like Matthew, John and Mark. LUKE MET MARY MOTHER OF JESUS IN EPHESUS, It was there that Mary shared the Life of Jesus with Luke.

Written by Luke, the birth of Jesus included the only Biblical Story of the Virgin Birth of Jesus. “The Story was Written in Ephesus” and was told by Mary to Luke.

GreenCovering:
It is also possible that the truth is somewhere hidden in the at bolded.

And google search engine couldn't find it for you?

GreenCovering:
To start with, don't you think that this lack of certainty in luke 2:21 could be pointing to Jesus also being born circumcised already.

Nothing is lacking in Luke 2:21 only if you can't comprehend what was written there!

GreenCovering:
I mean for someone having been born through virgin birth, is that too much for Allah to do also? Think about it. May be christianity lost that important aspect of his delivery and Allah decided to remind the world again when the holy Prophet (s.a.w.) was born.

So allah can't do if for your prophet and remind the world through his Jibreel that his own prophet was circumcised and have the record in quran right?

malware:
There is no specific time, but mostly up North, children get circumcised shortly before they're admitted into Nursery school. It's a kind of ceremonious something that friends and families will be killing ram, goat, sheep chicken and buying things for the circumcised child till he heals. Additionally, children get circumcised in group not isolation. The family will search through the extended family and find children that are of circumcision age and circumcise them together in group.

Any authentic hadith to back it up that messenger of allah was circumcised on the 7th day after birth?

Raf4:
But majority of northerners (male) are not circumcised

Lithiumite:
I have seen some northerners uncircumcised, whike growing up,my dad was fond of allowing his security men bring their family to come leave with them,infact they were practically living in our house and we even grew up and played together with some of them and I saw first hand uncircumcised boys but I must confess they were usually mostly from NE even as far as tchad and sudan,we had several of them growing up,also while grown i have equally noticed some grown ones too.

RillJ:
I stand to be corrected (have seen many myself though!)

Hangulsaram:
Are you serious, but almost all the Muslims that I know(Northern Muslim) to be precise are uncircumcised. Also always heard people say Muslims guys don't undergo circumcision

Lithiumite:
Same here,especially that figure for nigeria......the region that claims the highest population in the country are known notvto circumcise their males they rather the females.

RillJ:
I doubt the 98.9% compliance rate for Naija, considering that most of our Northern folks no dey run am. Abi dem don change?

What do you gain from spreading lies on others just because you have deep hatred and ignorance for them.

Circumcisions is part of Islam and there are many evidence to show this. Even the evidence on this thread shows circumcisions is nearly 100% in Nigeria but your hatred and ignorance will not let you rest until you create your own malicious lies