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| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by kayjordan(op): 7:57am On May 14 |
It's good to know your denomination. Your submission here clearly shows Christians are not speaking in one voice. If Christianity is CNN America, regardless the different types of TV sets (Teachers/Preachers), we should be able to get one "signal" (The Same Message). Yet, Christians are receiving different signals from the same God - and each denomination "expects" you to "believe" theirs is right. Then who can mediate the ongoing war in Christianity? Should we use scientists to do that? Or should people stay "neutral" by obey their body languages (Nature)... The Golden Question is: Why can't Jehovah's Witness, Latter Day's Saints, Deeper Life and other Churches drop their "egos" and form a united front? If you can't convert yourselves, how can you convert unbelievers? MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by kayjordan(op): 8:35am On May 14 |
Please note: You don't have to be a Christian, Muslim or Buddhist to practise "goodness". If one doesn't believe in your religion but practises goodness - he/she owes nothing. If you claim God owns the planet and not the wicked inhabitants, then the question remains still: who created the inhabitants? How did the inhabitants get into planet earth? What's the relationship between God's planet and another spiritual being's creatures? Why did God allow a spiritual opponent's creature trespass on his planet? Why hasn't God "Almighty" removed the evil inhabitants he didn't create from his planet. You also say that God uses people in his image to destroy unbelievers - yet the same God who instructs - "Thou shall not kill" - is directing his people to do the opposite of his own law. And when unbelievers and believers question the "Christians in God's image" - why their God allows such, they would say "God mustn't be questioned". Is God two-faced? Now, another contradiction you made is highlighted by the Genesis story: "Let there be light and there was light........And God created Adam.......And God created Eve from the rib of Adam....... The above contradicts your denomination's preaching. If God didn't create "unbelievers", then why did he create unbelievers like Adam and Eve on his very own "planet"? Also why did God drop Lucifer from Heaven down to the pit of Hell, but allow same Lucifer entry into planet earth but not Heaven? MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:58am On May 14 |
kayjordan:Here you go again!🙂 The word "DENOMINATION" is a deceit from Satan to blind many people. Since you opened this thread how many so called "Christians" have come to address you intellectually the way i handled the matter?🙂 Satan formed different religions so that sincere individuals will not be able to get the true Christians. So those religions are not Christians but Satan's agents claiming Christians. kayjordan:How do you expect light and darkness to work together? Please open your mind's eyes and stop calling false religions "Christians" for your information this is why God began calling His true worshipers by another group name: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Isaiah 65:15 But as for all false religionists God will exterminate them all. See what people from different schools of thought are saying about the only true Christian organization: freethinker01: BafanaBafana: APOPTOSIS: Oye0404: XXLDICK: boss1310: Love800: Deway52: DeepSight: HardMirror: |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:01am On May 14 |
I've told you to take things one step after another. Asking so many questions at the same time doesn't make sense. So which of these questions is most important to you now?🙂 kayjordan: |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by kayjordan(op): 9:01am On May 14 |
In my educated opinion, hell is just a state of the mind. While there are different definitions of hell, there's no solid conviction to prove hell is real - as no one has been to hell and back to give anyone a detailed account of what the place looks like. If anyone went there and back, it's safe to assume they went into a dream world or a comatose. Ken4Christ: |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:07am On May 14 |
kayjordan:Don't waste your time with false religionists claiming Christian. See how he judged you without asking to know what you have in mind: Ken4Christ:He is only back to distract you from the intelligent discussion we are having now!🙂 |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by kayjordan(op): 9:12am On May 14 |
Pardon me! I'm very inquisitive. The summary Questions: Why did God create first generation unbelievers like Adam and Eve on his very own planet? & Why does God instruct killings of unbelievers despite the Commandnent that preaches against it? MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by kayjordan(op): 9:23am On May 14 |
I see the attestation of Christians over Jehovah's Witness. In a nutshell: you claim most denominations, religions and likely "nature", are results of the devil... If I may ask again: If there's another denomination similar to yours that considers your practice as "too extreme" or "NOT OF GOD BUT OF ANOTHER MAN'S CONSCIENCE" and they use the "same Bible" - would it be religiously correct to say there are "TWO ALMIGHTY GODS" rather than "ONE ALMIGHTY GOD"? MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:27am On May 14 |
kayjordan:God did not intentionally create ingrates like Adam and Eve. His first creature is an angel who does everything that pleases Him and after so many years God decided to create more after all the first creature did well but by the time He created more that is when ingrates appeared among them. God's first created being is called His only begotten Son {John 3:16} who always do things pleasing to Him {John 8:29} so as God's first born he is rightly called the first born of all creation! Colossians 1:15 So many angels like Satan and so many humans like Adam and Eve developed the evil trait due to their selfish desires! kayjordan:Killing people is like depriving them of proving what sort of person they really are because God has set a date that He will destroy all evildoers {Psalms 37:9-11 compare to Proverbs 2:20-22} that is why He commanded that we should not kill anyone unless such a person becomes a threat to the lives of others. So when the Bible says God destroys any person or city it's because such ones are becoming a threat to the lives of others who needed time to prove what sort of person they really are! |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by kayjordan(op): 9:28am On May 14 |
Well! His intention is not known. Maybe he wants to promote his own version of Christianity to me. And maybe that's why Americans created "freedom of speech". Though we both are having a good intellectual debate, it's also permitted if persons bring in their own style of submission. MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:34am On May 14*. Modified: 10:20am On May 14 |
kayjordan:This is the reason why you need to know God's purpose first the authorship of the Bible. God wants to use the Bible to gather all peace lovers throughout the world and see to it that they form one global and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4} having the same line of thought. John 17:20-22 So there can never ever be another religion that will achieve this goal because it's on this ground that God has the moral justification to destroy all other people who are not part of this peaceful and happy global family. John 3:16 When God sent Jesus his mission was to help us know how to fish out {Mark 1:17} honest hearted and sincere individuals in all the nations of the earth. Matthew 28:18-20 |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:39am On May 14 |
kayjordan:Wow! Wow!! Wow!!! You really have a long way to go! OK let me help you. Please ask him to tell you the name of his own church if truly he has anything tangible to say. Note that he will tell you that there are Bible believing churches around you and some false churches but he can never ever mention any church of his own. WHY? Because he has been blinded and so he doesn't know what true Christianity supposed to achieve among adherents of the faith. So he will never ever mention any church after hearing the name of the true Christian organization which no religion can compete with in terms of performance! Matthew 5:14-16🙂 |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by kayjordan(op): 12:06pm On May 14 |
Your submission is based on "excuses" and "violence". The points you've made show God "lies" about his first creation and is making "excuses" why his creations are not "working well". You also paint a picture of a "Dictator" God. You fine-tuned it by saying only Jesus is his first creation even "amongst" existing humans. Are you therefore implying that the "soul" and "physical bodies" of Adam and Eve including all unbelievers are devil's creations? Or rather, the body and soul of Jesus Christ is God's creation? Please note: "Jesus the only begotten Son" as stated in the bible - is rebuked of worship by your denomination "Jehovah's Witness". MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by kayjordan(op): 12:17pm On May 14 |
While only him can defend himself, I can only say he's obidient to what he's been taught. He can't speak for what he "doesn't" know - but he can speak for what he knows. In his eyes, his "life with his current God" is good as long as he's not committing crime in society - he's doing what is right before the law and before his God. If he were born a Muslim, as he's defending Christianity today, so would he defend Islam. MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:35pm On May 14 |
kayjordan:Please what LIE did you say God told about His first creation?🤔 How is God a dictator? kayjordan:Satan never create any human they only chose his path. kayjordan:What do you mean here?🤔 |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:41pm On May 14 |
kayjordan:You need to know what OBEDIENCE truly means. If anyone is obedient he should be able to present the religion to which he is obedient. There are tens of thousands of different religions claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines so if anyone is truly obedient he should be able to tell the church to which he is obedient. I was born and raised a Muslim but i was on my way to embrace atheism before i met Jehovah's Witnesses then i started asking questions upon questions to know why they are totally different from all other religions even though they are also called Christians everyone know they are different. So today i can speak before anyone that i have found the only true religion and mention the name anywhere!🙂 |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by kayjordan(op): 12:50pm On May 14 |
If Islam caged you - would you be a Christian today? No! That's why God should leave people to their fate and allow them seek understanding of their world. Not destroy them for not believing in Him - That's the Dictatorship I'm talking about. MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by kayjordan(op): 12:57pm On May 14 |
To respond to this: If Devil never created humans, then God himself created the Humans without knowledge of their behaviors - therefore, He's a Learner! The Clarity Submission: If God is Almighty and All-Knowing - He that seeks peace, would not put - nor tolerate a Cat and a Dog in the same room - for He "knows" the beginning and the end of all things. If He's "Almighty" and desires peace, "He" would be "powerful" enough to erase evil be it desires, man or devil all on his own without seeking men to do it for Him - and without delaying the time to do it either. Why is he allowing these atrocities on his planet? Is the Devil stronger than Him (God)? MOST LIKELY. It's seems to me God is not in control of the Universe - or He's just a "Made-Belief" figure created to stop man from living his true nature. MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:44pm On May 14*. Modified: 5:46am On May 20 |
kayjordan:Do you crave for peace? Well God wants all inhabitants of this planet to enjoy lasting peace that is what brings Him glory That is not dictatorship people are now killing people because of politics (the desire to dominate fellow humans) all those involved in this thing must be removed before the world can have peace which God promised all lovers of peace so if there is any religion that can achieve that among all their members globally they have beaten God in His own standard but there is none instead racism and politics keeps making them kill one another! Revelation 6:3-4🙂 |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:48pm On May 14 |
kayjordan:This He admitted that is why He regretted {Genesis 6:6} He has learned that it's not all intelligent creatures that can be as graceful as His first child who always do what is pleasing to Him! John 8:29🙂 |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by kayjordan(op): 4:43pm On May 14 |
Very nice! I understand the perfection that your religion is trying to achieve - and it wants to achieve peace (The Achievement) through temporary violence (destroy/removal) - so that peace will reign afterwards, with the remainders of humans who will be called "believers" - Correct? Like for Example: "How Nairaland just removed @Dtruthspeaker comment after he resurrected on this platform" The next question I want to ask is: If one isn't a Christian - and if one isn't a Jehovah's Witness believer, but a peaceful individual on planet earth - will God still be mandated to remove such person from the earth still? & What's the purpose of Heaven? MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by kayjordan(op): 4:45pm On May 14 |
So therfore, God is not All-Knowing and not Almighty? IS THAT CORRECT? MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:50pm On May 14 |
Did God ever claim He is all knowing? The title Almighty means He has the highest ability and nothing can stop Him but if you know anyone who can stop Him please let me know that person.🙂 kayjordan: |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:54pm On May 14 |
kayjordan:Chai! Poorverty is evil. See reasoning. |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:00pm On May 14*. Modified: 5:49am On May 20 |
kayjordan:Achieving peace in God's own way is by humbly becoming a peace maker so by the time anyone mistakingly hurt you you should be the first to sue for peace and by so doing you become perfect from God's standpoint {Matthew 5:43-48} so from the viewpoint of the true God peace isn't just about not looking for trouble but being the first to apologize even when you are wronged. If everyone on planet earth does that this planet will become a paradise. kayjordan:Humans have no business with heaven earth is where God created for us! Psalms 115:16 |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by kayjordan(op): 5:38pm On May 14 |
Happy Resurrection! It's been a minute... Did you "trek" from Limbo to this place? Dtruthspeaker: |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by kayjordan(op): 5:47pm On May 14 |
Very clear. The honesty about God is acknowledged. You asked who can stop Him? I think it's a question of - "what's stopping Him?" rather than a question of "what can stop Him?". To find out - let's not postpone the evil day - let's see the manifestations of your God. Just as his creation Jesus Christ was asked - if he could walk on water.... I believe he did! MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by kayjordan(op): 5:56pm On May 14 |
Heaven doesn't exist - acknowledged. The question unanswered is: If unbelievers that are not Christians and are not Jehovah's Witnesses - are peaceful and loving and they live on your planet - will God Almighty, remove them from the surface of this earth? MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:16pm On May 14 |
kayjordan:Nobody ever tempt the Bible God unless He chooses to make such a person His messenger so if He wants to send someone to a place and the person demands for a sign He will provide but when a random person demands God will never ever obey such instruction. The same applies to God's only begotten Son so nobody tempted Jesus to walk on water he did out of love to save his friends. Meanwhile God doesn't exhibit His powers needlessly He only does that out of love for obedient humans so He gave us signs but when unbelievers demands He will never ever do such a thing: “A wicked and adulterous generation keeps on seeking a sign, but no sign will be given it except the sign of Joʹnah the prophet" Matthew 12:39 |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:25pm On May 14 |
kayjordan:Heaven exists that's where God created for Himself and His spirit sons! Psalms 115:16 kayjordan:You can never ever find a single person who is TRULY peaceful and loving on this planet except Christians. WHY? Because we have inherited bad traits from Adam that is why God asked us to learn from Jesus how to be truly peaceful and loving without Jesus no human can truly be peaceful and loving: All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away. Isaiah 64:6 NIV Please mention one person who is truly peaceful and loving if you know any! |
| Re: Why You Should Worship The Devil? by kayjordan(op): 6:35pm On May 14 |
Clear and acknowledged! The question unanswered is: If unbelievers that are not Christians and are not Jehovah's Witnesses - are peaceful and loving and they live on your planet - will God Almighty, remove them from the surface of this earth? MaxInDHouse: |
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