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Obaofaba:
Showing ruthless powers on unarmed civilians.

If them born them well, they should go to Iran.

Stop sounding like Hezbollah member.....
You attacked Israel October8.2023 ....because you said you supported Hamas ...and Israel reply your invitation letter to war and all you could open your mouth and say is .... attack on unarmed civilians ...is Hezbollah Terrorists unarmed civilians that are lunching missiles to Israel

Israel already inside Iran and Iran regime is in total chaos...so say something else

educatedfool:
You can't expect a ceasefire to hold when one side keeps violating it while the media barely reports those violations or frames them as 'responses.' That's part of why people lose faith in ceasefires in the first place.

A ceasefire only works when both sides are held accountable equally. If rockets from one side make headlines instantly, but airstrikes, raids, blockades, or killings from the other side get minimized or justified, then there's no real pressure to maintain the agreement.

That double standard is what makes lasting peace difficult. People wake up to 'ceasefire declared,' then hours later bombs are falling again, and the same cycle repeats while the side breaking it faces little international or media scrutiny.

No ceasefire untill Hezbollah Terrorists are completely out of Lebanon

Obaofaba:
Iran is the only antidote to all this Israeli madness.

Why going for the symptoms when the cause is at your finger tips if you have the cure?

Iran dealing with them but they are killing unarmed civilians in the Lebanon.

Bunch of Israeli terrorists

Its better you go back to sleep and wake up on the right side of your bed .....so your head can think properly.....because all you are saying right now are very inconsistent

educatedfool:
"Play"? Lol. Israel is obviously far more powerful militarily than Lebanon... If they could completely occupy Lebanon tomorrow without repercussions, they likely would asap. But your point still does not answer the real question. Does having more power justify the destruction and killings?

Does having some missiles and bombs from Iran justified Hezbollah stupidity of attacking Isreal in support of Hamas......when you know Israel possessed more lethal weapons than you
You guys better advise Hezbollah now to lay down weapons and stop putting Lebanese lives in danger.....because Israel I know will turn Lebanon into Gaza phase 2

Arrowhead71:
No ceasefire untill Hezbollah Terrorists are completely out of Lebanon

Then go and remove them yourself if it's that simple.

Funny how Israel can bomb another country, violate its airspace for years, kill civilians, destroy homes, and still call itself the victim. You keep calling Hezbollah "terrorists," yet ignore documented war crimes, collective punishment, illegal occupations, and attacks on civilians carried out by Israel for decades.

When civilians are killed in Gaza or Lebanon, hospitals and refugee camps are bombed, and entire neighborhoods are flattened, what do you call that? Peace?

You cannot label every armed group resisting occupation as "terrorists" while excusing state violence that kills far more civilians. If terrorism means using violence against civilians for political goals, then people should ask honestly: who has done that on a much larger scale and with far more destructive power?

patrickcollins:
Hezbollah is a terrorist group, why is Iran not defending their axis of resistance, Hezbollah entered the war because of Iran. IRGC has betrayed Lebanon.

If there is country Iran fear mostly is Israel....
Right now Iran is attacking Gulf Nations...but did not attack Israel
Iran supporters on Nairaland cannot say anything against Iran for not supporting Hezbollah Lebanon in continuing attacks on Israel as solidarity....
Because Iran knows Israel is war hungry and will start killing all of them leaders one after the other

Advice to Turkey....don't attacks Israel if you don't want to weep for Erdogan and his family.....because if Turkey attack Israel first...NATO would not save Turkey from Israel fury

AntiChristian:
Israeli forces are the saints in this o! (Saints ko saints ni)

They do not invade countries but only throw them bombs!

Also they have the ability to whine USA to do their bidding!

That Trump wey no dey get approval just dey follow Satanyanhu bidding!

Your Terrorists family Hezbollah....who gave them approval to go attack Israel first

Originality007:
If dem born iran well too, let dem go for israel

Iran no fit ...because they know Israel fury is too dangerous for them

educatedfool:
Then go and remove them yourself if it's that simple.

Funny how Israel can bomb another country, violate its airspace for years, kill civilians, destroy homes, and still call itself the victim. You keep calling Hezbollah "terrorists," yet ignore documented war crimes, collective punishment, illegal occupations, and attacks on civilians carried out by Israel for decades.

When civilians are killed in Gaza or Lebanon, hospitals and refugee camps are bombed, and entire neighborhoods are flattened, what do you call that? Peace?

You cannot label every armed group resisting occupation as "terrorists" while excusing state violence that kills far more civilians. If terrorism means using violence against civilians for political goals, then people should ask honestly: who has done that on a much larger scale and with far more destructive power?

So Bros .....if I throw bombs into your house and killed your children because I just feel like supporting my friend who's has fight with you....what would you do to me .....since you have bombs also

erad:
Israel has never respected any ceasefire/deal and won't start now. It's a genocidal state that thrives only on violence and the blood of the innocent.

We are glad you know this ......
So stay out of Isreal trouble....
But your Turkey is talking of attacking Isreal....and non of you is giving warning to Turkey not to try it....but if it actually happens and Israel starts killing their President and top leaders ....you guys will blame Israel as the aggressor

Obaofaba:
Showing ruthless powers on unarmed civilians.

If them born them well, they should go to Iran.

They went to Iran and kpaied their supreme leader ... anything else ?

Arrowhead71:
We are glad you know this ......
So stay out of Isreal trouble....
But your Turkey is talking of attacking Isreal....and non of you is giving warning to Turkey not to try it....but if it actually happens and Israel starts killing their President and top leaders ....you guys will blame Israel as the aggressor

The Iran that they killed their leaders, how's it going?

A lot of you think like someone with silicon brain transplant. Every nation won't be like Lebanon and gaza. Take America out of the equation and zionists can't defeat even their own orthodox jews. It's only a matter of time.

erad:
The Iran that they killed their leaders, how's it going?

A lot of you think like someone with silicon brain transplant. Every nation won't be like Lebanon and gaza. Take America out of the equation and zionists can't defeat even their own orthodox jews. It's only a matter of time.

Bros ....try reason smart
How can a Nation leaders like Iran be taken out so cheaply....if Isreal does not have have something different and special.....and the assasination reoccured daily during the war .....
And America rely on Israel for Inte.... so give Israel some credit

Arrowhead71:
Bros ....try reason smart
How can a Nation leaders like Iran be taken out so cheaply....if Isreal does not have have something different and special.....and the assasination reoccured daily during the war .....
And America rely on Israel for Inte.... so give Israel some credit

Yeah... The same Intel that killed school children. Lol.

The same Intel that destroyed their nuclear facilities, but they still had to go to war because they didn't destroy sh*t.

The same Intel that claimed their navy capabilities have been destroyed, yet the strait is still closed.

The same Intel that claimed the Iranian population will revolt against the government.

I can go on and on.

Y'all are jokers.

erad:
Yeah... The same Intel that killed school children. Lol.

The same Intel that destroyed their nuclear facilities, but they still had to go to war because they didn't destroy sh*t.

The same Intel that claimed their navy capabilities have been destroyed, yet the strait is still closed.

The same Intel that claimed the Iranian population will revolt against the government.

I can go on and on.

Y'all are jokers.

Ok ....you are right ....your iran is very powerful

Arrowhead71:
Ok ....you are right ....your iran is very powerful

Lol...

Wouldn't have expected a different response from a zombie zionist puppet.

Arrowhead71:
Ok ....you are right ....your iran is very powerful

no dey argue with terrorists sympathizers

kodded:
no dey argue with terrorists sympathizers

Have realized it sir .... Terrorists brains are absent from their body

erad:
Lol...

Wouldn't have expected a different response from a zombie zionist puppet.

Ok sir ...no vex

Arrowhead71:
Your Terrorists family Hezbollah....who gave them approval to go attack Israel first

O! Hezbollah attacks Israel. So Israel just like they did in Gaza attacked civilians in Iran!

That makes sense to people like you!

educatedfool:
"Play"? Lol. Israel is obviously far more powerful militarily than Lebanon... If they could completely occupy Lebanon tomorrow without repercussions, they likely would asap. But your point still does not answer the real question. Does having more power justify the destruction and killings?

Ooops.
I thought that your Hezbollah was “Hezbollah is not Hamas.”

Now suddenly, we all agree that they are a small nation that deserves pity from the more powerful nation. 😂😂😂

The same way we Iran as a “superpower,” but now claim that Israel should not do too much because Iran is just a small country led by people “might enough to challenge Israel.” 😂😂😂

And to your question: YES
Having any form of power, no matter how much or how small, should justify why you should protect your civilians and military from those who want to harm them.

AntiChristian:
O! Hezbollah attacks Israel. So Israel just like they did in Gaza attacked civilians in Iran!

That makes sense to people like you!

The attack by Hamas and Hezbollah and Iran on Israel has only succeeded in killing civilians......so what is the difference
The random missiles lunch into Israel by your Terrorists friend ..did they differentiate civilians from others
Because it's only when you guys suffer higher casualties you remember civilians and international nonsense you called laws

AntiChristian:
O! Hezbollah attacks Israel. So Israel just like they did in Gaza attacked civilians in Iran!

That makes sense to people like you!

Note that if Isreal is fighting Iran as whole....the deaths numbers will be more than 2800 reported by Iran regime in the 42 days war

Helinuse:
Ooops.
I thought that your Hezbollah was “Hezbollah is not Hamas.”

Now suddenly, we all agree that they are a small nation that deserves pity from the more powerful nation. 😂😂😂

The same way we Iran as a “superpower,” but now claim that Israel should not do too much because Iran is just a small country led by people “might enough to challenge Israel.” 😂😂😂

And to your question: YES
Having any form of power, no matter how much or how small, should justify why you should protect your civilians and military from those who want to harm them.

Hezbollah and Israel are not remotely equal in military power, so nobody serious denies that. But your Iran example completely collapsed the moment the US, Israel, and even multiple allied countries had to coordinate against ONE country.

Imagine calling Iran "weak," yet:

- Iran directly struck Israeli territory multiple times.

- US bases in UEA, Saudi, Bahrain, Kuwait, Iraq and Syria kept getting targeted despite America's overwhelming military advantage.

- Global shipping routes and oil markets react anytime Iran moves a finger.

- Israel, the US, UK, and others all keep treating Iran as a major strategic threat, not some helpless village militia.

A "small powerless country" does not force half the West into emergency meetings every few months.

And the funniest part? Every attack meant to "weaken the regime" only upgraded its image internally and regionally. Even Khamenei now is 30 years younger

So no, this is not the same comparison at all. Hezbollah being outmatched by Israel is obvious. But pretending Iran is some tiny harmless state while multiple powerful countries unite against it at once is just comedy.

And your last point still avoids the real issue:
"Protecting civilians" is not the same thing as justifying unlimited destruction of other civilians.

educatedfool:
Hezbollah and Israel are not remotely equal in military power, so nobody serious denies that. But your Iran example completely collapsed the moment the US, Israel, and even multiple allied countries had to coordinate against ONE country.

Imagine calling Iran "weak," yet:

- Iran directly struck Israeli territory multiple times.

- US bases in UEA, Saudi, Bahrain, Kuwait, Iraq and Syria kept getting targeted despite America's overwhelming military advantage.

- Global shipping routes and oil markets react anytime Iran moves a finger.

- Israel, the US, UK, and others all keep treating Iran as a major strategic threat, not some helpless village militia.

A "small powerless country" does not force half the West into emergency meetings every few months.

And the funniest part? Every attack meant to "weaken the regime" only upgraded its image internally and regionally. Even Khamenei now is 30 years younger

So no, this is not the same comparison at all. Hezbollah being outmatched by Israel is obvious. But pretending Iran is some tiny harmless state while multiple powerful countries unite against it at once is just comedy.

And your last point still avoids the real issue:
"Protecting civilians" is not the same thing as justifying unlimited destruction of other civilians.

Ahh!!

😅😅😅

I see. In essence, you are saying that because
1) the world refer to Iran as a threat,
2) Iran struck Israeli territory
3) Iran terrorizes shipping routes
4) Iran causes emergency sessions

Therefore they are more powerful than the whole world. 😂😂😂

1. The world refers to Boko Haram as a threat too. Are they therefore a super power?
2. Hezbollah have struck Israeli territory
3. ISIS have struck US bases before
4. Al-Shabab has attacked shipping routes in the more expensive trading ship lines.
5. All those terrorist have done more than Iran has.

Does that make them the super power too?
😅😅😅

Also, if you like, complain from today till tomorrow, everyone has a right to defend themselves from current or planned threats. Israel and the US are treating Iran with kids gloves.

Helinuse:
Ahh!!

😅😅😅

I see. In essence, you are saying that because
1) the world refer to Iran as a threat,
2) Iran struck Israeli territory
3) Iran terrorizes shipping routes
4) Iran causes emergency sessions

Therefore they are more powerful than the whole world. 😂😂😂

1. The world refers to Boko Haram as a threat too. Are they therefore a super power?
2. Hezbollah have struck Israeli territory
3. ISIS have struck US bases before
4. Al-Shabab has attacked shipping routes in the more expensive trading ship lines.
5. All those terrorist have done more than Iran has.

Does that make them the super power too?
😅😅😅

Also, if you like, complain from today till tomorrow, everyone has a right to defend themselves from current or planned threats. Israel and the US are treating Iran with kids gloves.

This is exactly where your argument falls apart.

You compared Iran, an actual sovereign state with ballistic missiles, drones, regional alliances, industrial capacity, intelligence networks, and direct military confrontations with Israel and the US, to ragtag insurgent groups hiding in deserts and mountains. That comparison alone already screams desperation.

Boko Haram cannot openly launch missiles across regions and survive.
ISIS could not sustain direct state-level confrontation.
Al-Shabab cannot force global powers into coordinated military calculations.

Iran does.

And notice something important:
The US invaded Iraq in weeks.
Destroyed Libya.
Occupied Afghanistan for 20 years.
But with Iran, suddenly it becomes "careful calculations," "regional consequences," "avoid escalation," and coalition management.

That alone destroys your narrative.

You also keep repeating "right to defend themselves" as if that magically answers every criticism. By that logic, every powerful country can bomb whoever they want indefinitely and call it self-defense. That is not a serious moral argument. That is simply "might makes right" with better PR.

And "kids gloves"?
If the US and Israel were truly treating Iran with "kids gloves," they would not need nonstop military aid packages, emergency deployments, regional alliances, air-defense coordination, and constant fear of retaliation every time tensions rise.

The funniest part is that you accidentally proved MY point.
You had to bring up terrorist groups just to avoid admitting Iran operates on an entirely different strategic and military level.

A country does not need to conquer the world to embarrass stronger powers.
Vietnam proved that.
Afghanistan proved that.
Even Iraq drained the US trillions.

Military superiority on paper does not automatically equal political dominance in reality.

educatedfool:
You compared Iran, an actual sovereign state with ballistic missiles, drones, regional alliances, industrial capacity, intelligence networks, and direct military confrontations with Israel and the US, to ragtag insurgent groups hiding in deserts and mountains. That comparison alone already screams desperation.

😂😂😂
Indeed.
“Intelligence network” indeed.
“Confrontations with Israel and US” indeed.

I didn’t hear about one, even one Iranian aircraft nor naval vessel that challenged Israel or the US. But in your mind, shooting missiles like Hezbollah and Hamas, places Iran as the apex predator.

😂😂😂

ISIS had much more.
They had an airforce.
ISIS confronted much more countries than Iran attacked.
ISIS had staged attacks even in the US.

But somehow, the low budget terrorist group that lost all their leadership on 30 seconds of a battle. Intelligence network indeed. 😂😂😂. Even with sustained US operations, it took years for Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi to be killed. Yet your supreme leader evaporated faster than boiling water.

If I give Boko Haram 5/10, and ISIS 9/10, I’ll demote Iran, because Iran doesn’t worth 1/10.

Helinuse:
😂😂😂
Indeed.
“Intelligence network” indeed.
“Confrontations with Israel and US” indeed.

I didn’t hear about one, even one Iranian aircraft nor naval vessel that challenged Israel or the US. But in your mind, shooting missiles like Hezbollah and Hamas, places Iran as the apex predator.

😂😂😂

ISIS had much more.
They had an airforce.
ISIS confronted much more countries than Iran attacked.
ISIS had staged attacks even in the US.

But somehow, the low budget terrorist group that lost all their leadership on 30 seconds of a battle. Intelligence network indeed. 😂😂😂. Even with sustained US operations, it took years for Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi to be killed. Yet your supreme leader evaporated faster than boiling water.

If I give Boko Haram 5/10, and ISIS 9/10, I’ll demote Iran, because Iran doesn’t worth 1/10.

You are confusing "not fighting like ISIS" with "not being powerful."

ISIS was a roaming terrorist group holding deserts and villages. Iran is an actual state with missiles, drones, cyber capabilities, proxy networks, intelligence operations, and influence across multiple countries. The US literally spent decades invading countries over groups Iran supports indirectly. That alone should tell you the comparison is weak.

And the irony is funny. You mocked Hezbollah and Hamas missiles, yet Israel and the US still dedicate massive intelligence, military budgets, air defense systems, carrier groups, sanctions, emergency meetings, and constant operations around Iran. Nobody mobilizes like that over a "0/10" actor.

Also, ISIS "having an airforce" is one of the funniest exaggerations I have seen . Capturing a few abandoned aircraft they barely used is not the same as having a functioning modern air force.

And saying "Iran never directly challenged the US or Israel" ignores reality. From proxy warfare to missile strikes to Red Sea disruptions to regional influence, Iran has been confronting both indirectly for decades. States do not always fight like suicidal militias charging into airstrikes.

A country surviving decades of sanctions, assassinations, cyberattacks, covert operations, and still remaining influential in the region is clearly more significant than a terrorist group that collapsed after losing territory.

By the way: US lawmaker says Washington lost 39 aircraft in Iran war
https://aa.com.tr/en/americas/us-lawmaker-says-washington-lost-39-aircraft-in-iran-war-citing-defense-report/3935793

educatedfool:
You are confusing "not fighting like ISIS" with "not being powerful."

ISIS was a roaming terrorist group holding deserts and villages. Iran is an actual state with missiles, drones, cyber capabilities, proxy networks, intelligence operations, and influence across multiple countries. The US literally spent decades invading countries over groups Iran supports indirectly. That alone should tell you the comparison is weak.

And the irony is funny. You mocked Hezbollah and Hamas missiles, yet Israel and the US still dedicate massive intelligence, military budgets, air defense systems, carrier groups, sanctions, emergency meetings, and constant operations around Iran. Nobody mobilizes like that over a "0/10" actor.

Also, ISIS "having an airforce" is one of the funniest exaggerations I have seen . Capturing a few abandoned aircraft they barely used is not the same as having a functioning modern air force.

And saying "Iran never directly challenged the US or Israel" ignores reality. From proxy warfare to missile strikes to Red Sea disruptions to regional influence, Iran has been confronting both indirectly for decades. States do not always fight like suicidal militias charging into airstrikes.

A country surviving decades of sanctions, assassinations, cyberattacks, covert operations, and still remaining influential in the region is clearly more significant than a terrorist group that collapsed after losing territory.

By the way: US lawmaker says Washington lost 39 aircraft in Iran war
https://aa.com.tr/en/americas/us-lawmaker-says-washington-lost-39-aircraft-in-iran-war-citing-defense-report/3935793

When you down talked the ISIS Airforce, I was thinking you will talk about Irans Airforce. 😂😂😂

The same ISIS you are talking about at the one in full control of the state structure of Syria.

And yes, Hamas and Hezbollah can still continue giving trouble just because of the morality of Israel and the US.

If any of those two were a Muslim nation, I bet their whole country, both the Hamas, Hezbollah and the innocents would have been history.

Saddam Hussein of Iraq did it.
Assad of Syria did it.

You can only run your mouth like that about those two countries because they are Jewish and Christian and already have a conscience that is bestowed on them by their beliefs.

Let Hamas, Hezbollah, or Iran try India, China, or Turkey and see.
😂😂😂

Helinuse:
When you down talked the ISIS Airforce, I was thinking you will talk about Irans Airforce. 😂😂😂

The same ISIS you are talking about at the one in full control of the state structure of Syria.

And yes, Hamas and Hezbollah can still continue giving trouble just because of the morality of Israel and the US.

If any of those two were a Muslim nation, I bet their whole country, both the Hamas, Hezbollah and the innocents would have been history.

Saddam Hussein of Iraq did it.
Assad of Syria did it.

You can only run your mouth like that about those two countries because they are Jewish and Christian and already have a conscience that is bestowed on them by their beliefs.

Let Hamas, Hezbollah, or Iran try India, China, or Turkey and see.
😂😂😂

Your argument keeps collapsing into contradictions.

First you mocked Iran for using proxies and indirect warfare, now you are admitting Hamas and Hezbollah are serious enough that only "morality" is stopping Israel and the US from wiping everything out. So which is it? Weak and irrelevant, or dangerous enough to require restraint, alliances, carrier groups, sanctions, intelligence operations, and nonstop military campaigns?

And the Syria point is also confused. ISIS briefly controlled territory during a civil war and chaos. Controlling ruins during state collapse is not the same thing as being a stronger geopolitical actor than Iran. By your logic, every warlord that captures territory automatically becomes stronger than functioning states.

Also, saying Israel and the US are restrained purely because they are Jewish and Christian is a very emotional argument, not a strategic one. States act based on consequences, global pressure, economics, alliances, hostages, regional escalation risks, international law, domestic politics, and military costs, not because leaders suddenly become saints.

You mentioned Saddam and Assad as examples, but both actually prove the opposite of your point. Saddam could not survive confrontation with the US coalition. Assad only survived largely because of external backing from Russia and Iran. So again, Iran appears in the equation.

And the funniest part is you naming China, India, and Turkey like they are magical civilizations beyond conflict . Turkey has fought insurgencies for decades. India still deals with militant attacks and regional tensions. China is extremely cautious about instability despite its strength. Real geopolitics is more complicated than "just bomb everyone."

At this point, your argument is just jumping between contradictions depending on what sounds dramatic in the moment.

educatedfool:
Your argument keeps collapsing into contradictions.

First you mocked Iran for using proxies and indirect warfare, now you are admitting Hamas and Hezbollah are serious enough that only "morality" is stopping Israel and the US from wiping everything out. So which is it? Weak and irrelevant, or dangerous enough to require restraint, alliances, carrier groups, sanctions, intelligence operations, and nonstop military campaigns?

And the Syria point is also confused. ISIS briefly controlled territory during a civil war and chaos. Controlling ruins during state collapse is not the same thing as being a stronger geopolitical actor than Iran. By your logic, every warlord that captures territory automatically becomes stronger than functioning states.

Also, saying Israel and the US are restrained purely because they are Jewish and Christian is a very emotional argument, not a strategic one. States act based on consequences, global pressure, economics, alliances, hostages, regional escalation risks, international law, domestic politics, and military costs, not because leaders suddenly become saints.

You mentioned Saddam and Assad as examples, but both actually prove the opposite of your point. Saddam could not survive confrontation with the US coalition. Assad only survived largely because of external backing from Russia and Iran. So again, Iran appears in the equation.

And the funniest part is you naming China, India, and Turkey like they are magical civilizations beyond conflict . Turkey has fought insurgencies for decades. India still deals with militant attacks and regional tensions. China is extremely cautious about instability despite its strength. Real geopolitics is more complicated than "just bomb everyone."

At this point, your argument is just jumping between contradictions depending on what sounds dramatic in the moment.

So if Saddam, Assad, and AlBaghadi didn’t survive, did Khamenei survive?

If he didn’t, what makes him superior to those guys when throws guys survived hundreds of days than he did?

😅😅😅