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If you own a house of your OWN, have above a business that has survived 10 years and averagely doing okay, you have no business going anywhere!

You just want to go give yourself hypertension.

The part of western world they don’t tell you is that, it’s a rat race. You will keep running till you die.

ariesbull:
Everyone skilled worker... That is a low job! Skilled worker like plumber, carpenter , bricklayer, forklift driver , women aim for hair stylist or caregiver etc ...why do you people aim for these low jobs

Can you be banker, lawyer, speculator, attorney, IT, AI specialist

So you will want your life to end as a skilled worker instead of a business owner or professional

https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skill-occupation-list?


+Core Skills Occupation List (CSOL)
+Medium and Long-term Strategic Skills List (MLTSSL)
+Short-term Skilled Occupation List (STSOL), or
+Regional Occupation List (ROL).

Simply Google each to understand better.

Now to your comment, all professionals are skilled from all you mentioned.

I'm a surveyor, proudly skilled.

Stopped eating agbaadoo

fmlala:
The best option is to stay and build your life here, however, the choice is yours

Best option? You must be joking. Move round the streets and see how many lives and small businesses are being ruined by this harmful environment.

Unless you have something tangible going for you here, I advise you get out as fast as you can!!!!! Nigeria buries many fantastic dreams every day.

you’re asking if abandoning a sinking ship is better than trying to bail it out with a teacup? the answer is unequivocally yes.

the choice is between contributing to a feedback loop of mediocrity and collapse or operating in an environment where laws of physics and commerce are not being defied by locals.

if your aim is to build something then build it where the foundation isn’t a petri dish of institutionalized incompetence. you’re not staying to build. you’re staying because you lack the capacity to function anywhere else. move to yurop. the oxygen is less contaminated there.

Oga pray to be the person paying salary be a business owner stop hoping on jobs and work that you will get paid

Gotocourt:
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skill-occupation-list?


+Core Skills Occupation List (CSOL)
+Medium and Long-term Strategic Skills List (MLTSSL)
+Short-term Skilled Occupation List (STSOL), or
+Regional Occupation List (ROL).

Simply Google each to understand better.

Now to your comment, all professionals are skilled from all you mentioned.

I'm a surveyor, proudly skilled.

Stopped eating agbaadoo

kenodrill:
Good day chief,please whats the interest rate of the mutual fund? And which of the financial institutions?

Use cowrywise as at total their interest rate for money market mutual funds interest as at total is 16.67% per annum

PlutusNeo is at 13.5% per annum so pick the one that suits you better

Fulani herdsman are real, everything you work for can be lost in one day if you are kidnapped. If you want to travel do and if you want to stay back do.

GEJDHERO:
Money u get to spend at the end of the day on bills.

I stayed in Nigeria for four years after graduation and made no serious headway. I left Nigeria thereafter and after three years living outside the country, I was able to buy a house of over 80k USD in the same Nigeria.

What does that tell you?
It wasn't even a serious job that I was doing. It was basically me trying to leverage all the economic opportunities I met in those foreign lands. How commonly possible is such story in Nigeria?

Anyone who's trying to diminish the quantity and quality of opportunities outside the country for young Nigerian immigrants, is simply devilish in his ways..

YOU WAN ALWAYS STAY IN NIGERIA TILL DAY MY BONES BLACKEN LIKE JEKONMO !!!!

ariesbull:
Why do many young Nigerians believe the only way to succeed is to leave home?

Every day, thousands dream about Europe as the ultimate escape route — better roads, stable electricity, cleaner systems, stronger currency, and a more comfortable life. On social media, it often looks perfect. People post pictures in winter jackets, airports, clean streets, and foreign apartments, making it seem like life automatically becomes successful once you leave Nigeria.

But behind many of those pictures is another story nobody talks about enough.

The truth is that only a small percentage of Nigerians abroad are genuinely thriving financially and emotionally. Yes, some people have built successful careers, businesses, and stable lives overseas, and their success deserves respect. But for the overwhelming majority, life abroad is often a constant cycle of survival, bills, and pressure.

Many Nigerians abroad are living paycheck to paycheck. After rent, taxes, transportation, childcare, insurance, and endless expenses, there is little left. Some work exhausting shifts in warehouses, factories, care homes, or cleaning jobs for years with no real ownership or long-term security to show for it. Some are constantly anxious about visas, residency papers, documentation renewals, or immigration status. Behind the smiling pictures online are sleepless nights, loneliness, depression, and fear of uncertainty.

Some people spend ten or twenty years abroad and still cannot confidently say they have built a lasting foundation either there or back home in Nigeria. No land. No investment. No business. No real roots. Just survival from one month to another.

And as time passes, deeper worries begin to appear.

Many quietly wonder what old age will look like for them abroad. Will their children, raised fully in Western culture, still value family the same way Nigerians traditionally do? Will those children want to care for them personally when they grow old, or will they eventually end up alone in care homes, visited occasionally out of obligation rather than love and connection?

Some even worry about where they will finally be buried. Back home in Nigeria among their ancestors and family roots? Or in a foreign land where their children may feel more attached to than the country their parents came from?

These are painful conversations many people avoid having openly.

Meanwhile, back in Nigeria, despite all the frustration and hardship, there are people quietly building lives with purpose, ownership, and legacy.

Nigeria is still one of the biggest untapped markets in the world. In a country with over 200 million people, almost every problem is a business opportunity waiting for someone brave enough to solve it. While many people are focused on escaping, others are building companies, brands, farms, schools, tech startups, transport businesses, and real estate portfolios.

People behind companies in Nigeria that are unicorn, like fintechs, trading firms etc and did not wait for another country to hand them opportunities. They saw possibilities inside Nigeria and built around them.

Even in entertainment, we have seen many become global names while remaining deeply connected to their Nigerian identity and culture.

And beyond celebrities, there are ordinary Nigerians who may never trend online but are building quietly every day. The man who owns a growing supermarket chain in Aba. The woman running a successful fashion business in Lagos. The young developer earning remotely from Nigeria. The farmer expanding his land year after year. These people may not post foreign pictures online, but they are creating something solid and lasting.

Of course, this does not mean Europe is bad or that nobody should travel. There are Nigerians abroad doing incredibly well, building wealth, raising healthy families, and creating opportunities. Some people genuinely need to leave for education, healthcare, security, or a better quality of life.

But maybe the real question is this:

Should success only be measured by leaving Nigeria?

Because sometimes, the person staying back to build a business, create jobs, buy land, support family, preserve culture, and leave behind a legacy may actually be building a richer life than someone abroad living from shift to shift with nothing truly theirs.

At the end of the day, earning a paycheck is one thing. Building something that outlives you is another.

Just leave...you cant build something on nothing in Nigeria

And that is the mindset we have tons of people building solid brands her in Nigeria

femi4:
Just leave...you cant build something on nothing in Nigeria

Flesh10:
Use cowrywise as at total their interest rate for money market mutual funds interest as at total is 16.67% per annum

PlutusNeo is at 13.5% per annum so pick the one that suits you better

Thanks alot chief

MadPolitician:
I stayed in Nigeria for four years after graduation and made no serious headway. I left Nigeria thereafter and after three years living outside the country, I was able to buy a house of over 80k USD in the same Nigeria.

What does that tell you?
It wasn't even a serious job that I was doing. It was basically me trying to leverage all the economic opportunities I met in those foreign lands. How commonly possible is such story in Nigeria?

Anyone who's trying to diminish the quantity and quality of opportunities outside the country for young Nigerian immigrants, is simply devilish in his ways..

Our leaders are devilish. They've stole the future of even the unborn generation

ariesbull:
And that is the mindset we have tons of people building solid brands her in Nigeria

yinmu

Change that tons to few

So many businesses has been shut in the last decades

And you keep dwelling on the ones shut down while smart fellows are dwelling and studying the ones making waves

Well, not everyone will be business owner...people like you will earn salary and wages till the last days ! While soke will pay wages all through their lives

femi4:
yinmu

Change that tons to few

So many businesses has been shut in the last decades

ariesbull:
And you keep dwelling on the ones shut down while smart fellows are dwelling and studying the ones making waves

Well, not everyone will be business owner...people like you will earn salary and wages till the last days ! While soke will pay wages all through their lives

Yes, I will keep dwelling on them cos factors that affected them were avoidables. Factors like

Loss of love ones n farms to insecurities
Bad roads
Poor supply of electricity
Police brutality et al

Story ...excuses ! A bad workman quarrels with his tools

Even if you are even in Europe or USA you still can't open your own business there

My dear it is a mindset that is why many of those that Japa about 85% of them will always do shift jobs and earn hourly wages just few will have their own businesses

It's a mindset thigh oga leave excuses

femi4:
Yes, I will keep dwelling on them cos factors that affected them were avoidables. Factors like

Loss of love ones n farms to insecurities
Bad roads
Poor supply of electricity
Police brutality et al

ariesbull:
Story ...excuses ! A bad workman quarrels with his tools

Even if you are even in Europe or USA you still can't open your own business there

My dear it is a mindset that is why many of those that Japa about 85% of them will always do shift jobs and earn hourly wages just few will have their own businesses

It's a mindset thigh oga leave excuses

The joke is on you cos they are all living their dreams from abroad

These are people that couldnt afford a bag of cement while in Nigeria, now have house of their own home and abroad, businesses with no worries of power, bad roads or police harassment ..all in less than a decade

Living which dream.... You dey tell person wey no dey travel... Parking shit, working in warehouse and doing 2 jobs shift after shift is dremas to you


Dram is taken vacation, visit come back and do your business sir

femi4:
The joke is on you cos they are all living their dreams from abroad

These are people that couldnt afford a bag of cement while in Nigeria, now have house of their own home and abroad, businesses with no worries of power, bad roads or police harassment ..all in less than a decade

ariesbull:
Everyone skilled worker... That is a low job! Skilled worker like plumber, carpenter , bricklayer, forklift driver , women aim for hair stylist or caregiver etc ...why do you people aim for these low jobs

Can you be banker, lawyer, speculator, attorney, IT, AI specialist

So you will want your life to end as a skilled worker instead of a business owner or professional

Who told you being a skilled worker abroad is a low paying job ?! You think HVAC mechanics , plumbers , electricians, pipefitters , welders , line technicians are poor people. People wey Dey earn 6 figures.

Do you know you need to be trained and certified before you even get to work on projects ?!

Most of you just come online to say what you have no idea about and it’s baffling.

Omo , no use this kind brain cross road ooo , I take God beg you. That’s a HVAC technicians salary per annum , how many people for Naija Dey see that kind money ?!

Educate yourself… I no go talk pass that

ariesbull:
Living which dream.... You dey tell person wey no dey travel... Parking shit, working in warehouse and doing 2 jobs shift after shift is dremas to you


Dram is taken vacation, visit come back and do your business sir

Lolz

You must be living in stone age

Check NHS, HMRC, BoS etc No be everyone be like you that could not defend his certificate

Audio .. . Defend which certificate !

femi4:
Lolz

You must be living in stone age

Check NHS, HMRC, BoS etc No be everyone be like you that could not defend his certificate

SmartPolician:
Leave and watch from afar. APC is the weapon fashioned against Nigerians and has been destroying the economy of Nigeria since 2015. Nigeria kills dreams!

On a serious note, OP complained about people struggling abroad. There's nothing wrong with that as far you have a plan and live in a system where things work.

Jensen Huang, the CEO of Nvidia, washed toilets to survive when he moved to America. Today, he's running a company worth over $4 trillion. This is something NOBODY can achieve in Nigeria.

He is worth at least 50Billion dollars too

You stay at Algeria?
Are you working there?

uzhiyeka:
Tho man is the masters of his own fate. I'm 36... Got my HND at 24 years did my NYSC at Kaduna.... Got back to Port Harcourt where I came from in 2017.... started applying for govt jobs but no connection so you can't get a job... While still applying I'm still going about my sack farm were I planted chilli pepper and I also rear rabbits chinchillas and so many of them... But to cut the story short I never yield results bcox of the market monopoly.... So in 2023 I travelled to kogi state to do a land farming, I cultivated hectare of lands mix crop it with cassava and maize the other once I planted beans, grandnut... to make it short I could not make half of the money I spent bcox of the policies of the govt high fuel price... Transportation... high cost of pesticides... Fertilizers importation from the govt etc.... so I decided to use the little I made from the sales and travel out of the country..... So I started my journey but now I'm at Algeria... The months have spent here and the years have spend in Nigeria the difference is clear... The Nigerians leaders are devil in human form... If you have the opportunity to leave the country please don't hesitate just leave their are better opportunity out side Nigeria as it stands now.....

People can actually do business in UK?
I thought it was only salary jobs that are mostly available there.

ariesbull:
Story ...excuses ! A bad workman quarrels with his tools

Even if you are even in Europe or USA you still can't open your own business there

My dear it is a mindset that is why many of those that Japa about 85% of them will always do shift jobs and earn hourly wages just few will have their own businesses

It's a mindset thigh oga leave excuses

Yws people can do business In UK but the question is how many are doing business

Love800:
People can actually do business in UK?
I thought it was only salary jobs that are mostly available there.

Many people glamorize “japa” and many others over-romanticize “staying back.” Reality is harsher and more nuanced than both sides admit.

Yes, abroad offers stronger systems, better infrastructure, and in many cases more predictable institutions than places like Nigeria — but predictability on paper doesn’t automatically translate to personal fulfillment.

A lot of immigrants in countries like Canada, United Kingdom, or United States quietly deal with:

Years of visa uncertainty

Doing survival jobs far below their qualifications

High taxes and rising living costs

Family strain/divorce

Loneliness and identity loss

Retirement fears after spending decades in a foreign land

And you’re right that success should never be reduced to airport photos, visa stamps, or “I dey abroad” bragging rights.

Real success is closer to what you described: freedom.

Freedom to control your time.
Freedom to build assets.
Freedom to raise your family in peace.
Freedom to retire with dignity.
Freedom to live life on your own terms.

That said, staying in Nigeria isn’t automatically freedom either. Many people leave because of insecurity, unstable policies, poor healthcare, weak institutions, and limited opportunities.

The real question isn’t “Should I japa or stay?”

It’s: “Where can I build the best life based on my goals, values, skills, and family priorities?”

For some people, migration is the right move.
For others, building businesses, investments, and influence at home may create far more freedom.

Location alone doesn’t create success.
Intentional decisions do.

And honestly, whether in Nigeria, Canada, or anywhere else—if you’re 65 and still trapped in survival mode with no assets, no peace, and no options, that’s the deeper problem.

ariesbull:
Predictability is the main thing and that isn't what they get

You stay in a system 5yr to 10 yrs you haven't gotten papers is that predictability

You stay in a system you are doing the low jobs and don't know when your pay increment would happen is that predictability

You stay in a system living paycheck to paycheck, shift to shift that to me isn't predictability


You bring your wife over and you don't know if you will have a happy family tomorrow or you will be booted out to the winter by your wife with ordinary 911... That's not predictability


you manage to survive these and grow old doing 69s to 80s and you don't know if the wife and kids will want to come back and if you eventually come back you will end up lonely ... That isn't predictability



Success is measured not by visa stamps or travel

It's freedom

How many business do you own
How do you live your life! Do you do shift and shift at age of 55 - 65? That's not success

How do you plan retirement is it with grand kids running along in your home or in caregivers arms as an old immigrant !

Who will foot the bill! Let's not even talk mortgage and foreclosures

This Country Has No Future

Nothing Is Work!Ng Out In Th!s Country

Japa IF YOU CAN!!!!!

Don’t Look Back…..

Lol.

That means the rules and regulations surrounding the business atmosphere in UK is so rigid and tense!

Okay.
I appreciate.

ariesbull:
Yws people can do business In UK but the question is how many are doing business

Love800:
You stay at Algeria?
Are you working there?

Yes at the moment