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franvincoop:
Extremely difficult is an understatement, it's impossible.
If a shady character with no classmates, childhood friends or childhood photos, a man who graduated from school before the school existed, if such a character could become Nigeria President, then there is no way you can remove him.
I repeat no way.

I just laugh at Obi and Kwankwaso, they have done exactly what Tinubu wanted by exiting the coalition.
Now INEC will give them the highest number of votes but only Tinubu will have 25% in 24 states and he will be sworn in.
Bookmark this post.

Mandate1:
Nigerians will stop him. Rigging won't work this time.

WhizdomXX:
You choose who is the best to replace him, all we all agree on is that he must go. If the person we put is the same or worse we continue sending them packing until we get it right. We are not slaves, they are working for us, not the other way round.

nairalanda1:
And the above decision by Yaradua contributed to the debt that eventually forced the removal of the subsidy anyway.
You guys do not understand how subsidy wrecked our refineries, and oil sector. We were warned to remvoe it in 1993, we said no. Then we refined all the fuel consumed here. 400000 bpd. BY 2011 it was down to 90000 bpd.

Subsidy wrecked the refineries. It caused the corruption and devastation of our economy, and made it worse.

Yaradua also benefited from high oil prices of 140 dollars and above for much of 2008. Even then paying for subsides was problematic.

Fact remains that we waste money politicians, no one is talking about this. How can a poor country be spending billions of her annual income on politicians and their families?
What are his plans for corruption? Nothing, so money keep wasting. We simply export everything insread of becoming a production driven country.
As nigeria hard reach, they are still spending billions on VP, president, Senators, why? That is my problem. If we must suffer, let everyone suffer. Not just the masses. I cant suffer alone while politicians and their kids ball hard on top small money I made sourcing work abroad. No, I cant! I wont!




Yes, which is why I am approaching this from the fact that I never supported the man.

Plus, I didn't live in Lagos, but visited after he left office. Could see his praise singers were wrong off the bat.




Ahem, Nigeria is a poor country overall.The main problem with government is that it refuses to use our natural resources to make exportable goods which can be taxed properly. Rather, it prefers to export oil and other things, and share the money.


Again , our refineries, for example. If subsidy had gone in 1993, and deregulation had happened back then , yes we would have suffered. Yes, there would have been pain, but by 2010, we would have been a major hub for refined products for a large part of Africa, and our oil secotr would have been larger than this.

But we refuse to do things like that, we refuse and have refused to deregulate the power sector, thus stifling investment into the sector, which in turn stifles industrial growth. We underpaid for the railways because cheap services, thus preventing its expansion and investment into it.


And the result is that we are a poor nation

And it is all because we want cheap things.

And all that led to the subsidy removal you don't like because debt was accumulated over the years from trying to keep fuel and other things at prices that made no sense because 'we are an oil nation)

The day I understood how subsidy worked in 2011, was the day my oppistion to its removal ended, and the day I began to understand why the same complaints on this trhead, were made 10 years ago, 20 years ago, even 40 or 50 years ago.

We better face reality. It does not make tinubu a good leader.

Counterigbolies:
so what will u say about student loans in advanced countries too?

SoNature:
Tinubu has never been that man who banks on getting votes based on love or performance. He often banks on vote-buying, tribalism, intimidation and suppression to win elections. Given the amount he controls, it will be extremely difficult to stop him in 2027

chanx:
Everything cannot be solved at once.
Let us take it one step at a time.

Don't negotiate with bandits in anyway and don't rehabilitate them as our brothers as the government is doing, it encourages more people to join. So tackle insecurity with the urgency it deserves. Cut down unnecessary spending and borrowing, reduce unnecessary foreign trips, remove people who are not performing so that anyone vying for positions would sit up, courts should be strengthened and allowed to work independently, let every institution be allowed to function. I don't think these are too much to ask for in 4 years.

Tenses:
Give your fuulish reason or fxxk of.

WhizdomXX:
In the 21st century?

Tenses:
Blockage of governance wastage is the solution.

PO has always advocated that he will stop governance wastage and theft. And with his "from consumption to production" policies the burdens of fuel subsidy removal will not be felt.

instead of favouring politicians, PO government will be favourable to the common man.

Once PO is elected the north will be the next goldmine.

Nigerians will be prosperous.

SoNature:
Yes, leaving that coalition was a bad move, but INEC cannot do anything about an election done with BVAS.

Peter Obi didn't have the capacity to win 2023 elections. He lacked control of many PUs across the country because he didn't have agents all over the wards.

If PO did, he would independently submit his result before the court and demonstrate the scores he used to win the election. He clearly didn't win the election because he had no proof.

He didn't have those results and was banking on INEC to provide the sheets. This is something this coalition would've solved because they can pool their resources together to man all elections across Nigeria.

BTW, Nigeria has passed the stage of someone sitting at home and writing election results, not even INEC. People who go about shouting rigging know nothing about it because they don't vote.

Princedapace:
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Misterone:
Oga, stop using foul language

Demurray:
Omo see peter Obi marketer , let's here from him how he wanna achieve all you listed, some of you think managing economy is as fast as making ogbono soup.

Though Tinubu is underachieve but too soon to call him failure. It's just 3 years in office
When election come March, he's fate would be determined.

Not his supporter though

Princedapace:
Now, this is the mindset I want. Like we need to keep sending them out until they learn to perform. 8 years is not a birth right. Na all these rubbish we dey do here they caused these guys to see us finish.

SoNature:
The biggest form of rigging is vote-buying. The newly amended electoral act didn't criminalize it, meaning that Tinubu and his agents will use 5 - 10k to buy plenty of votes.

Forget those cheap people who go about criticising Tinubu. A hungry man can sell his value for anything. When it comes to vote-buying in Lagos, the only part of Lagos where Tinubu cannot win is Eti-Osa because hungry people don't live there. APC only employ violence to scatter voting in Eti-Osa.

Borrow2222:
🤡

Old model rusted Lexus you're displaying it's key.

With outdated iPhone.

I have always know you APC fakas are empty.

MT:
You seem to be the most reasonable among those who replied me, so I would respond to what you typed.

Star this post for the future, by 12noon to 1pm on the election day, the game is over. Tinubu has won.

You referred to "rigging" - so let's agree with you that Tinubu will rig, so by your calculation, the oppositions are saint - they won't rig, right?

So, you ask for infrastructure, yet you condemned the construction of coastal roads. How contradictory can you be? Go and explain this to people of akwa ibom, cross river etc, that they should be denied access to Lagos via coastal road, and come and explain how you will survive being lynched. No matter what Tinubu does, he can't be right with you but it doesn't matter - he will win squarely without your support..

Did you miss it yesterday? Nigeria military and the US neutralised a terrorist yesterday. No country can guarantee 100 percent security. Hey, have you ever been to the US? Visit the US if you are fortunate enough to be issued a visa, which I doubt anyway and let's revisit this conversation in term of security.

If you are a student of engineering, electricity is not something you invest on and start generating the dividends almost immediately. It takes time. It takes process. Be educated.

Under Tinubu leadership, Nigeria has attracted over 20 billion dollars foreign direct investment already. Let me point you to a reference in case you miss the good news - https://www.google.com/amp/s/thenationonlineng.net/tinubu-nigeria-attracted-20b-foreign-investments-this-year/amp/

I thought you said no foreign investor would come to Nigeria. Take that back. We are moving, you better join the train or be left behind

In case you also missed it, Airbus has made a proposal to make Nigeria it's maintenance hub in the region. Do you know what impact that will.make? Oh you don't believe, read this - https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/880155-tinubu-hails-airbus-plan-for-aircraft-maintenance-hub-in-nigeria.html

You ignorantly alleged APC was paying me to defend them here, let me ask are you doing it for free for Pit OBi ?

Next time, stop name calling. I will let that pass but you would have it "hot hot" if you repeat the same mistake in the future. Be guided

nairalanda1:
The problem is, tinubu and his predecessors are all alike.

That he removed subsidy does not change that idea, tinubu was forced to remove subsidy because there was no extra money in the budget...but then he brought it back, only for the financial pressure to force him to remove it again.

Nigerians want the government to subsidise everything they use and to pay for their housing , water supply, and so forth while they live the good life. Nothing fundamentally wrong with that, except that they want the government to spread 100 billion dollars on a good day among 230 million people.

That cannot work. Unless there is borrowing...and already a lot of the 100 billion dollars has gone to pay off oid debts.

Yes , there is corruption, and corruption is happening because the system encourages it. When you have an issue where most do not pay tax...as seen in Nigeria, and by tax, I mean personal income tax, what you have is a system where there is sharing of money, and the closer one is to where the money is shared, the more the corruption. And because Nigerians are not paying a chunk of their income in tax, like the whites do, they are not incentivised to fight for better leadership. Result is that leadership becomes an ethnic game...

And that is why we keep on having tinubus.

But most of you don';t get it. That is why many here think I am supporting tinubu, a man who left Lagos worse than it was before he came, and who is currently starving the power sector by his polices., among other things. And yes we suffer because we are a poor country. But ask Nigerians to vote for a leader who will take us to imprved productivity and fiscal discipline, and dem go call you agbasoeosde. The same tinubu that is doing the opposite of what one argues for.

That's why I am pissed with this site, and with online Nigeria. You guys want the easy way out, and your government always obliges. Then you cry when things don't change.

bjdon:
Electricity generation has been removed from the exclusive list. Have you complained to your state governor?
Nigerians need to understand that 8 years of Buhari totally finished Nigeria. The country was effectively bankrupt. Reform is never easy, but it’s starting to bear fruit. The Niara is now relatively stable, even with the war in Iran. I don't really like Tinubu, but in all honesty he's the best we have right now.

Flets:
You have always been an Emilokan supporter from the get go. Your attempt at hiding under the shadows has since been blown.

Just move on

cucumbar:
Trash and jargons na I’m you just write.

How can anyone say TIfnubu is the best we have right now?

You don chop corn. Your sense of judgement is flawed. Roooonnuu

Princedapace:
I was battling with network issues recently, and it reminded me how difficult it has become to survive here. There is no stable electricity. Most of us survive on generators.

South Africa achieved significant progress in electricity within two years, yet after four years, nothing meaningful has changed here. It is still the same story and the same daily struggle.

Now, remove emotions for a moment and look at the reality:

A kilogram of gas is about ₦1,400. That is extremely high for a country with very low salaries.
A crate of eggs is between ₦5,500 and ₦6,000.
A bag of cement is around ₦12,000. This is one of the reasons house rent has skyrocketed, because many citizens can no longer afford to build homes.
Renting a 2-bedroom apartment in most state capitals now starts from about ₦2.5 million and above. That is insane for a country where the majority of citizens are struggling financially.
Fuel is around ₦1,400 per litre.

Fuel powers our generators. If you run two businesses, you may need two generators.

For someone like me who works online, I need electricity almost 24/7. A huge part of my income goes into fueling and servicing generators because, most nights, my generator runs till morning. I work with clients across different time zones, sometimes at 2AM.

What does all of this mean?

Our purchasing power has dropped drastically.

Yet, despite these realities, the tax burden keeps increasing.

I honestly want to ask: does the government truly understand what Nigerians are going through?

Even someone earning ₦25m–₦30m yearly in today’s Nigeria is not necessarily living comfortably. A large percentage of that income already goes into solving basic social problems and surviving.

You pay for:

Electricity
Security
Healthcare
Transportation
Water
Education

Everything.

So where exactly is the money left to pay huge taxes from?

How many Nigerians can genuinely save millions yearly after handling all their responsibilities as parents, children, and providers?

To survive, many people are already being forced to reduce their quality of life:

Cutting down electricity usage despite terrible heat
Moving children from good schools
Switching from bottled water to sachet water
Selling better cars for cheaper alternatives because of fuel costs
Cancelling vacations and basic comfort

The painful part is that many self-employed Nigerians hustle endlessly just to stay afloat, yet at the end of the year, they are still expected to pay heavy taxes.

One of my friends, despite earning what many would call “good money,” is already in debt because of school fees and living expenses. Yet, government expectations are based only on income figures, not the harsh realities behind those figures.

And remember, this is a country where many parents depend on their children financially just to survive.

Honestly, many leaders cannot relate to what ordinary Nigerians are facing because:

Their electricity is sorted
Their security is sorted
Their healthcare is sorted
Their feeding is sorted

So they may never truly feel the pain of the average citizen.

Dear Nigerian leaders, Nigerians are suffering.

We are exhausted.

What could be done differently?

Reduce excessive tax burdens. Maybe 3 percent for now. Please, this country is poor or increase the threshold to maybe 50m per year if you truly wants to target the rich for income tax.
Fix electricity.
Tackle corruption seriously.
Improve security so farmers can return to farms safely.
Support the tech economy so more young people can earn online.
Invest in skills and digital opportunities.
Cut down excessive government spending and luxury packages for politicians.

Nigeria is a poor country with multidimensional poverty. In many homes, one working person carries the burden of an entire extended family.

Tax should not be the first priority when citizens are already struggling to survive.

As I write this now, my area is in complete darkness again. Families will spend heavily on fuel tonight just to have light for a few hours.

So I ask again: after paying for survival, where exactly should the tax money come from?

We are tired.

The bills are too much.

please can someone push this to front page?

I want to understand why the sacrfice must be done by the suffering masses instead of the politicians. I am curios to know why. Why must I suffer what I didn't cause?

pharmagba:
He is the only bold and audacious reformer among the candidates