₦airaland Forum

Let the game begun!

Atiku is in the line of fire chiefly because he is at variance with their messiah, not necessarily because he has nothing to offer. They are all the same.

happney65:
"want to copy former President Obasanjo, he is a Nationalist. You might not like him, I had disagreements with him, but he is a Nigerian President, not a Yoruba President"

Dass all.

But Tinubu supporters who are mostly closest tribalists do not like Obasanjo. To them Obasanjo is not Yoruba enough and they hate him with all their strength

But the one that claims he is yoruba enough,his region is nearly over ran by terrorists with school kidnapping happening. As in unbelievable. While the so called yoruba president is helpless

I trust OBJ. Obasanjo's shoot at sight at members of the OPC who went haywire in the early 2000's nipped the crises in the bud once and for all.

Baba Iyawo fún ara e.

What is nationalist in doing 8 years tenure and no single project in the region u came from? but u scattered projects in the North only. That's nationalist to a northerner? Buhari is still even more of a nationalists than Obasanjo bcs we can point to some projects in the SW (railway, Lagos Ibadan express), SE (2nd Niger bridge, power plants, Nnamdi Azikwe masoleum and several roads) and SS ( Railway, Bonny Island and several federal roads) aside numerous projects in his northern region. Tinubu is another person that we can call nationalist bcs he is also spreading development and not concentrating in one region e.g Sokoto-badagry highway(to serve both Southern and Northern Nigeria), Lagos Calabar coastal highway (to serve the whole south), NELFUND to all Nigerians, All federal express roads under reconstruction across the country with concrete architecture, 2nd Niger bridge extension, Development commissions extended to all regions, Police architecture extended to all regions, Military architecture extended to all regions, Navy architecture extended to all regions. Tell me who is more nationalistic? Obasanjo is simply a slave to the North. Same with Jonathan, he never did anything for his people but also concentrated on the north. Is that nationalism?

Goo0dHardDick:
Atiku is the most fool.ish politician ever in Nigeria.

Instead of allowing the south to complete their 8 years before handing over to the North. Now it's going to be kwankwaso taking over immediately after Obi's 8 years

After Obi's 8years. I see you

Goo0dHardDick:
Atiku is the most fool.ish politician ever in Nigeria.

Instead of allowing the south to complete their 8 years before handing over to the North. Now it's going to be kwankwaso taking over immediately after Obi's 8 years

Lol
What a dreamer

Obi that already promised to do 4 years

Instead of Amaechi or Atiku, let Tulumbu complete his 8 years.

Nonsense and ingredients

They 're just trying to get algorithms

Goo0dHardDick:
Atiku is the most fool.ish politician ever in Nigeria.

Instead of allowing the south to complete their 8 years before handing over to the North. Now it's going to be kwankwaso taking over immediately after Obi's 8 years

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So kwankwaso is a vampire that doesn’t get old. He says he is 70 now. After 8 years is 78. So he will rule up to 86 yrs lol

Atiku will want Amaechi to be his vice, but Atiku is a dead product, and Amaechi will, at best, get the 4 Ikwerre rumu local governments. But he can't even do that because Wike will destroy him.

These two have to stop wasting people's time.

Ameachi doesn't stand any chance Atiku will buy many delegates with dollar.

jchioma:
Obi has said times without number that he’s only going to serve one term and moreover, his party, NDC has already settled the issue of zoning; power will go back to the north in 2031

You mean his unknown party or which one...?

happney65:
"want to copy former President Obasanjo, he is a Nationalist. You might not like him, I had disagreements with him, but he is a Nigerian President, not a Yoruba President"

Dass all.

But Tinubu supporters who are mostly closest tribalists do not like Obasanjo. To them Obasanjo is not Yoruba enough and they hate him with all their strength

But the one that claims he is yoruba enough,his region is nearly over ran by terrorists with school kidnapping happening. As in unbelievable. While the so called yoruba president is helpless

I trust OBJ. Obasanjo's shoot at sight at members of the OPC who went haywire in the early 2000's nipped the crises in the bud once and for all.

Baba Iyawo fún ara e.

Baba Iyabo you mean...

Amaechi is confident, nobody gave him a chance in the 2022 APC primaries as well, then he came second. His popularity will skyrocket If he’s able to pull this political upset by defeating Atiku.

The advantages he would have over the other man would be;

1. He’s also a Christian
2. He has something to show for his time in government as governor and minister.
3. He’s younger
4. He doesn’t jump around looking for where to contest without going through a primaries.
5. With Atiku’s support + the Buhari’s influence he would do decent in the core north.

Amaechi is likely to give Tinubu a run for his money in the 2027 election if he defeats Atiku at the primaries.

But u supported buhari and betrayed your brother..... Was it easy under buhari?

fergie001:
Amaechi's interview on Trust TV

In sum Rotimi Amaechi is not for the people but for the few who know their way around power. He lives off power and is the reason he says he is hungry for power!

Goo0dHardDick:
Atiku is the most fool.ish politician ever in Nigeria.

Instead of allowing the south to complete their 8 years before handing over to the North. Now it's going to be kwankwaso taking over immediately after Obi's 8 years

But Obi promised you just 4 years.

Okoyeeboz:
Obi's 8 years kwa?
But you Obidients said Obi will only do 4 years?

you are taking the words of an individual who is entitled to his opinion to conclude it was said by a group of people?

kedeojo:
Stop dreaming. the best ticket that could have shake Tinubu badly was atiku-obi ticket. you guys just lack political strategy. there is no pathway to igbo presidency in 2027. stop playing nzogbu nzogbu politics.

You mikano boys are inconsistent with your assertions!
You claim only a northerner can remove a southern president using the reference of the 2015 elections....so why didn't the same Atiku in 2019 not demand that a southern candidate should remove a northern president!

kedeojo:
Stop dreaming. the best ticket that could have shake Tinubu badly was atiku-obi ticket. you guys just lack political strategy. there is no pathway to igbo presidency in 2027. stop playing nzogbu nzogbu politics.

Everything is about Igbo to you hateful soul. Peter Obi will not be vice to atiku and that's settled , let atiku go and look for vice in ameachi or anyone from your village , we don't care.

Peter Obi will be on the ballot with Kwankwaso and wether he win or lose, all glory to God because power belongs to God not to an ordinary mortal like you.

happney65:
"want to copy former President Obasanjo, he is a Nationalist. You might not like him, I had disagreements with him, but he is a Nigerian President, not a Yoruba President"

Dass all.

But Tinubu supporters who are mostly closest tribalists do not like Obasanjo. To them Obasanjo is not Yoruba enough and they hate him with all their strength

But the one that claims he is yoruba enough,his region is nearly over ran by terrorists with school kidnapping happening. As in unbelievable. While the so called yoruba president is helpless

I trust OBJ. Obasanjo's shoot at sight at members of the OPC who went haywire in the early 2000's nipped the crises in the bud once and for all.

Baba Iyawo fún ara e.

In whose era did the following start in Nigeria:

Kidnapping for ransom?

Chijeep:
Whether primary or secondary Atiku will win you.
Save your breathe and do the needful

And what could that needful be?

happney65:
"want to copy former President Obasanjo, he is a Nationalist. You might not like him, I had disagreements with him, but he is a Nigerian President, not a Yoruba President"

Dass all.

But Tinubu supporters who are mostly closest tribalists do not like Obasanjo. To them Obasanjo is not Yoruba enough and they hate him with all their strength

But the one that claims he is yoruba enough,his region is nearly over ran by terrorists with school kidnapping happening. As in unbelievable. While the so called yoruba president is helpless

I trust OBJ. Obasanjo's shoot at sight at members of the OPC who went haywire in the early 2000's nipped the crises in the bud once and for all.

Baba Iyawo fún ara e.

Actually there is a class and group of Yoruba who firmly believe that Obasanjo is Igbo.

Goo0dHardDick:
Atiku is the most fool.ish politician ever in Nigeria.

Instead of allowing the south to complete their 8 years before handing over to the North. Now it's going to be kwankwaso taking over immediately after Obi's 8 years

Sometimes I begin to think atiku is actually working for tinubu. I dont understand why a man will fight with someone he knows he cannot win.

jchioma:
It’s obvious that Amaechi will become Atiku’s vice in the absence of any credible candidate but Nigerians will decide who will win las las.

That's if Nigerians are ready to flood the polls next year and defend their choice. If not, it will be the choice of Bola and a few of his arch local and foreign cultists.

Goo0dHardDick:
Atiku will never smell presidency ever again. I'd rather vote kwankwaso than to vote Atiku the greedy f..ool

What happened in 2019 when he teamed up with obi? Dude, Obi can and mustn't be vice to Atiku. Is obi a kid to you?

We're going to be OK!

If Bola returns, it's Obis single handed doing.

Anchor: Don't you believe Hayatu-deen could step down for Atiku Abubakar?

Amaechi: I wish them luck. Let me repeat this, there is a colleague of mine I told be careful, if Tinubu wins in 2023, you will go to jail. He is there now. I went to an elderly man in Buhari's Government, if Tinubu wins it won't be easy, and I saw him now he is suffering. The same way I am pleading with my colleagues and friends from the North, let's not play North and South politics, I don't like it, let's not do it. I want to copy former President Obasanjo, he is a Nationalist. You might not like him, I had disagreements with him, but he is a Nigerian President, not a Yoruba President.

How the question above relate to Tinubu. All of them sleeps thinking about Tinubu.

happney65:
"want to copy former President Obasanjo, he is a Nationalist. You might not like him, I had disagreements with him, but he is a Nigerian President, not a Yoruba President"

Dass all.

But Tinubu supporters who are mostly closest tribalists do not like Obasanjo. To them Obasanjo is not Yoruba enough and they hate him with all their strength

But the one that claims he is yoruba enough,his region is nearly over ran by terrorists with school kidnapping happening. As in unbelievable. While the so called yoruba president is helpless

I trust OBJ. Obasanjo's shoot at sight at members of the OPC who went haywire in the early 2000's nipped the crises in the bud once and for all.

Baba Iyawo fún ara e.

Carry stupid story commot here.

The real tribalist is your Agulu bloda, not the great Jagaban.

Goo0dHardDick:
Atiku is the most fool.ish politician ever in Nigeria.

Instead of allowing the south to complete their 8 years before handing over to the North. Now it's going to be kwankwaso taking over immediately after Obi's 8 years

You're most foolish to think Obi will be president.

The great Jagaban will complete his 8 years in office while a Northerner takes over in 2031.

2039 will be the turn of South South.

Obi go contest tire!

jchioma:
It’s obvious that Amaechi will become Atiku’s vice in the absence of any credible candidate but Nigerians will decide who will win las las.

The great Jagaban will spend 8 years in Aso rock.
You and your bllodas should avoid plunging yourselves into abysmal delusion every four years

Obj was equally a Youroba biased President , he was very much anti Igbo in his polices then remember but he did not take it to the in your far extreme that Buhari did or to the zenith of Yoruba nationalism like BAT is doing right now , mode ban me as you defend and protect your Yoruba hegemony

Parachoko:
Atiku only believes in Zoning when it favours him

Like in 2023 when he proposed to step down if PDP ticket was micro zoned to the south east?

Or like 20 years earlier when he rejected northern pressure to make Obasanjo a one term president?

You can say your opinion but you can’t fabricate facts to justify your opinion.

aieromon:
According to sources available to us that time, Obasanjo said he will do a single term but after that, he decided to go for second term. I was physically present at Rivers state Governor’s Lodge when the heat became too much and Obasanjo in the presence of all of us knelt down in front of Atiku begging him to allow him do a second term. I think that was how Atiku missed the opportunity by agreeing to Obasanjo’s plea. His thought was that at least, if Obasanjo completes his second term, he will hand over to him but you all know the story of Third Term Agenda and that was how they fell apart. Atiku had the best opportunity to become president in 2003 and lost it. He had the support of PDP governors then.

https://independent.ng/atiku-lost-opportunity-become-president-2003-idahosa/

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Around November 2002, 15 of the 21 Governors from the PDP including me, had an ad hoc meeting at my lodge in Abuja to decide who should be nominated by the Governors Committee for election by PDP as the presidential nominee for the 2003 Election.

The Governors Committee decided almost unanimously to get a new candidate instead of President Obasanjo as the Committee was of the view that because of his military background, he was intolerant of dissent and had displayed very dictatorial and vindictive tendencies against those he perceived to be independent-minded and disloyal to him.

Immediately after the Governors meeting, I led the delegation of Governors to meet the then PDP Chairman, Chief Audu Ogbeh, at his residence around 2 am.

As the leader of the delegation, I spoke and communicated the views of the Governors to the Chairman, which was that the Governors had decided not to support President Obasanjo as PDPs nominee for the 2003 General Election.

The party chairman tried to persuade us to review our decision but when he saw our resolve, he told us that he would inform the President. I was later informed by Chief Audu Ogbeh that after we left his house he put an urgent call to the President and informed him of our decision.

What then followed were intense consultations before the PDP annual convention which took place in January 2003. Two days before the party convention, the Governors had a breakfast meeting with President Obasanjo.

I recall that at that meeting, the then Vice President Alhaji Abubakar Atiku told the President in the presence of the Governors that he was known to be very dictatorial, vindictive and unforgiving. The President appealed to the Governors to support him and assured both the Governors and the party leadership that if he was allowed to continue for the second term, he would adopt a more democratic approach.

On the basis of the President's assurance, given at that breakfast meeting, I led the move for the Governors to support his presidential nomination for the second term. However, notwithstanding my support for President Obasanjo's nomination for a second term, the President after the nomination, acted very shabbily towards me.

When I met him soon after the convention, he told me that he had learned that I had put forward the view that he was unsellable, unmarketable and unelectable. He then vowed that he was going to make sure that I was unsellable, unmarketable and unelectable.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/09/ibori-fights-back/

Atiku Camp - Visit Wikileaks and type the following in the search bar NIGERIA: DID VP ATIKU OUTFOX BABANGIDA AND OBASANJO DURING THE PDP CONVENTION?

According to Adesanya, Atiku met the governors the first day of the convention; they urged him to leave Obasanjo and seek the nomination himself. Atiku demurred; he also deflected the suggestion that he join Ekwueme. Finally, Atiku arranged a meeting between Obasanjo and the now irate governors. The governors railed that Obasanjo was hypocritically pursuing them for corruption, while turning a blind eye to corrupt politicians within his own Administration. Atiku supported the governor's position, telling Obasanjo that significant corruption was not the exclusive ambit of the governors and that serious transgressions occurred in the executive branch: he said it would be unjust to focus exclusively on gubernatorial excesses. Assuming the role of mediator, Atiku then asked both sides to affirm their mutual support and cease the antagonism being fueled by elements that wanted to destroy the PDP. The governors agreed to bury the hatchet, if Obasanjo would shelve the dossiers. Having demonstrated his influence with the governors, Atiku continued to play coy with Obasanjo.

In the end, Atiku extracted an extraordinary concession from the President. Obasanjo agreed to relinquish the entire domestic agenda to Atiku, including the appointment of key economic policy-makers. Since Obasanjo focused on the world arena during his first term and aspired for recognition as an international statesman, Atiku said that is where he would like Obasanjo's attentions to remain. Obasanjo would serve the role of a "super Foreign Minister" and ceremonial Head of State. As Adesanya understood the agreement, Atiku would be allowed to direct domestic economic policy while Obasanjo busied himself with debt relief, NEPAD, conflict resolution and other measures to shore up Nigeria's image abroad.

OBJ camp - visit Wikileaks and type the following in the search bar NIGERIA: DIFFERENT INSIDER VIEWS ON THE PDP CONVENTION

The President was dazed, Abayomi recalled. Jarred by the unexpected possibility of defeat, the usually know-it-all Obasanjo eagerly solicited counsel on how to escape the closing vise. Early that day, the dominant theme was to seek a court injunction postponing the convention. Proponents suggested the delay to afford Obasanjo time to marshal support and undermine Ekwueme's momentum. However, this idea was ultimately discarded, partially because of apprehension over the public's reaction. More importantly, the push for an injunction became less urgent when the President's advisors began to sense their man was regaining ground by the hour.

The President owed much of his recovery to his own tenacity and, at times, shamelessness. He pulled out virtually all the stops to clinch the nomination, according to Abayomi. For most of that day, the President's diet consisted of liberal portions of humble pie. The President pleaded and cajoled; on at least two occasions his eyes welled with emotion as he pursued fence-sitting delegates and governors. However, Obasanjo saved his best to keep Vice President Atiku from defecting.

With rumor swirling that Atiku would opt to run with Ekwueme, Obasanjo wasted no time visiting the Vice President's residence. Obasanjo begged, declaring he would not leave Atiku's home unless the Vice President accompanied him to win back the delegates and governors. The performance had the desired effect. Atiku joined Obasanjo in publicly lobbying the conventioneers. While it might not have been Obasanjo's finest hour it was the defining moment of the convention. What had been a suspenseful contest would now turn into a rout.