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MeetDx:
That's why even if NEPA doesn't give you electricity for a month bills will still come in. Naija is "I don't care country" that's why when they complain about the Government, I will just be laughing! If he doesn't pay, his neighbor will be calling him names ... Trouble maker!

Clapping for your oppressors is the order of the day! No mind them jare!

Stockholm syndrome.

Serious Stockholm syndrome. It's sad.

Mistermoon:
Please, I need advice on what to do.
The community disconnected electricity supply to our compound because the landlord did not pay a community electrification due (money for transformer) that predates our tenancy and the landlord gave only me a quit notice with 30 days ultimatum because I was the only one brave enough to demand that he pays the due so that electricity can be restored to the house.

I want to take him up legally but I need guidance on how to go about it plus L do not personally know a lawyer.

You have to determine your type off tenancy and also if you have any landlord-tenant agreement that may override tenancy laws/provision.

If there's no such agreement, and you're a yearly tenant, you are entitled to 6 months notice to quit.

Also your landlord can give you a quit notice for any reason he likes. The law only requires that he gives you the legal timeframe to quit

Juliearth:
Bold of you to come on here to spew bile under my comment. I will not bear the brunt of your ignorance, so please I would advise that you avoid my comments from now moving forward.

Bold of u to think ur a person of substance while ur filled with below par intelligence. I will quote u and the likes of u till thy kingdom until u are able to comment like a functioning adult.


Can't even counter my comment, lmao 🤣

wehdone:
He has the right to ask for electricity, but has no right to "demand" the landlord forfeits his own right "not to pay". Yes, the work is at the transformer, and the job of the distribution company (or government) to fix it; but definitely not the job of landlord to pay for it. You get?

The landlord should forward his complaint to discos if he doesnt want to pay what he paid for ab initio, so yes, the tenant is well within his right to "demand" that the landlord should pay, or look for other solutions.

Hi

Stephen0mozzy:
Forget legal action jare. If ywant to stay in the house, just go and talk to him man to man.

That something is right, doesn't mean that the way we ask it is proper - you have said you "demanded", I hope you didn't use the same "attitude" that the word implied?

Anyways, while it's not right, landlords often see themselves as the Lord of the Land on which their house was built - this is a lesson, don't try to be a hero if you can't lead others to join you in doing compound thing.

If you even go to court, the landlord can say he gave you the quit notice because, having considered that the house not having light will be an inconvenience to you, he has decided to terminate your tenancy agreement so you can get a proper house that meets your demand.

Wisdom is always profitable to direct - Landlord wey hold beef with full street naim you think say intimidation by few tenants will faze? You guys could have asked for a general meeting with him and sweet talk him into paying the dues, even if it means contributing small small to assist.

Them nor dey scratch brokos the way e take itch.

You're a Star.Of what brand are you in Nigeria? North east or west,l owe you a bottle of wine 🍷 Not many people have this knowledge,many see landlords as the second to Olodumare who has everything available to him at all times.They forget that he is human too who can owes debts

Fountainofyouth:
The landlord should forward his complaint to discos if he doesnt want to pay what he paid for ab initio, so yes, the tenant is well within his right to "demand" that the landlord should pay, or look for other solutions.

The tenant is very correct. The only thing is poverty. I can imagine the type of house and the type of Landlord he is dealing with.

It’s really unfortunate how quickly people jump to conclusions without paying attention to the actual details. Social media has become a place where many speak without understanding the full story, and that only makes situations worse for those genuinely facing injustice. I’m currently dealing with a similar issue in the Isheri/Ijegun area of Lagos, where landlords misuse their power and tenants are left vulnerable. Instead of blindly supporting one side, people should take time to understand the facts before passing judgment. IF IS NOT HAPPENING TO YOU NOW IT WILL SOMEDAY AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE TREATED BY YOUR LANDLORD LIKE YOU STAY FREELY IN HIS A
PARTMENT

PlasmaTV:
See talk
Naija fit una wella

The same reason our government take us for granted.

I can only say God bless you more,advice is more than trillion to those tenants who think only about right and not duty for their convenience

Stephen0mozzy:
Forget legal action jare. If ywant to stay in the house, just go and talk to him man to man.

That something is right, doesn't mean that the way we ask it is proper - you have said you "demanded", I hope you didn't use the same "attitude" that the word implied?

Anyways, while it's not right, landlords often see themselves as the Lord of the Land on which their house was built - this is a lesson, don't try to be a hero if you can't lead others to join you in doing compound thing.

If you even go to court, the landlord can say he gave you the quit notice because, having considered that the house not having light will be an inconvenience to you, he has decided to terminate your tenancy agreement so you can get a proper house that meets your demand.

Wisdom is always profitable to direct - Landlord wey hold beef with full street naim you think say intimidation by few tenants will faze? You guys could have asked for a general meeting with him and sweet talk him into paying the dues, even if it means contributing small small to assist.

Them nor dey scratch brokos the way e take itch.

Mistermoon:
Please, I need advice on what to do.
The community disconnected electricity supply to our compound because the landlord did not pay a community electrification due (money for transformer) that predates our tenancy and the landlord gave only me a quit notice with 30 days ultimatum because I was the only one brave enough to demand that he pays the due so that electricity can be restored to the house.

I want to take him up legally but I need guidance on how to go about it plus L do not personally know a lawyer.

30 days is a long time... Have you tried diplomacy? That legal avenue will chop your money and at the end of the day, you may not achieve anything.

1. Do you know anyone close to him, tenant, an old friend that comes visiting, his wife, child etc? Talk to the person, take a bottle of dry gin or wine. If you're Yoruba and he is as well, when you see him, prostrate and greet him. No be everything be gragra... Always start with diplomacy. Apologize and beg.

Stephen0mozzy:
Forget legal action jare. If ywant to stay in the house, just go and talk to him man to man.

That something is right, doesn't mean that the way we ask it is proper - you have said you "demanded", I hope you didn't use the same "attitude" that the word implied?

Anyways, while it's not right, landlords often see themselves as the Lord of the Land on which their house was built - this is a lesson, don't try to be a hero if you can't lead others to join you in doing compound thing.

If you even go to court, the landlord can say he gave you the quit notice because, having considered that the house not having light will be an inconvenience to you, he has decided to terminate your tenancy agreement so you can get a proper house that meets your demand.

Wisdom is always profitable to direct - Landlord wey hold beef with full street naim you think say intimidation by few tenants will faze? You guys could have asked for a general meeting with him and sweet talk him into paying the dues, even if it means contributing small small to assist.
Them nor dey scratch brokos the way e take itch.

You tried in your response, but failed to nail it at some point. First, the (Op) was right to have confronted the landlord about the electricity (wahala). Though, manner of approach matters. He has legal right to electricity power supply in the compound.

Second, the landlord does not have any legal right to chase him out of the property as far as he's not violent and his rent is still running. The only caveat here is that, the landlord must be ready to payback the prorated rent at the point of exiting the house if he must leave. You can't take some's money and chase him out in the name of being a landlord. (Who born you).

If you can't entertain a tenant, settle out with him and pay outstandings let him go. No tenancy law treats a tenant as second class. In fact, the law is slightly skewed in favour of the tenant.

How can community contribute money for transformer....... The landlord will be the landlord of the year if he insists on not paying....... Only dat some tenants like the op will not understand.

Bimboscoo:
It’s really unfortunate how quickly people jump to conclusions without paying attention to the actual details. Social media has become a place where many speak without understanding the full story, and that only makes situations worse for those genuinely facing injustice. I’m currently dealing with a similar issue in the Isheri/Ijegun area of Lagos, where landlords misuse their power and tenants are left vulnerable. Instead of blindly supporting one side, people should take time to understand the facts before passing judgment. IF IS NOT HAPPENING TO YOU NOW IT WILL SOMEDAY AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE TREATED BY YOUR LANDLORD LIKE YOU STAY FREELY IN HIS A
PARTMENT

Thank you.
You are the only sane person I can see here. It's like those supporting the landlord are also landlords themselves. Even if you're one, you can't be a landlord everywhere you go. The injustice you support today will surely comeback and hurt you. The man has every right to confront the landlord to settle out the power issue, which they are facing in the community as the only compound without light. If his rent is still running, the landlord must be very careful not to break the law. Either prorate the rent and pay him the balance as at the time of leaving or wait till the tenure elapses. I can see many ignorant people here responding without experience and knowledge of the matter..

Heffalump:
Thank you.
You are the only sane person I can see here. It's like those supporting the landlord are also landlords themselves. Even if you're one, you can't be a landlord everywhere you go. The injustice you support today will surely comeback and hurt you. The man has every right to confront the landlord to settle out the power issue, which they are facing in the community as the only compound without light. If his rent is still running, the landlord must be very careful not to break the law. Either prorate the rent and pay him the balance as at the time of leaving or wait till the tenure elapses. I can see many ignorant people here responding without experience and knowledge of the matter..

The tenant is 100% correct. It is just poverty issue. I know the type of house and the type of Landlord under discussion. In my earlier comment I said I have been to Mediation Centre twice and know what transpired then. The tenants spent more than 6 months.

I know my experience in another place where I mistakenly rented. The environment, house and the type of Landlord matter.

Heffalump:
You tried in your response, but failed to nail it at some point. First, the (Op) was right to have confronted the landlord about the electricity (wahala). Though, manner of approach matters. He has legal right to electricity power supply in the compound.

Second, the landlord does not have any legal right to chase him out of the property as far as he's not violent and his rent is still running. The only caveat here is that, the landlord must be ready to payback the prorated rent at the point of exiting the house if he must leave. You can't take some's money and chase him out in the name of being a landlord. (Who born you).

If you can't entertain a tenant, settle out with him and pay outstandings let him go. No tenancy law treats a tenant as second class. In fact, the law is slightly skewed in favour of the tenant.

On your last paragraph, isn't that what the landlord has done? He's asked him to leave - that's what quit notice means - of course he'll refund the outstanding rent if said tenant has before quiting.

About legal legal legal.... This is a civil matter, common sense demands that OP explore dialogue or get an intermediary before spending money that can be used for personal matters to pay lawyers, after which the court either enforces the quit notice amd have the landlord refund outstanding rent, or ask the landlord to fix the light.

But if the court forces his hands, guess who will still be sent away from the house after his rent expired? The Legal-battle-loving tenant.

People pls read the 1st page to understand the matter.
The issue here is the tenants demanding landlord pays for contribution to buy transformer after his light was cut.
Landlord does not want to go to court on that.
But tenants says landlord MUST pay.
How?


Please read well and stop all this.
I am also a landlord.
No landlord can ask you to leave 30 days unless your rent has expired and or due for renewal.
Tenants wants landlord to pay for Transformer instead of dialogue.
How.

I spoke to my tenants when our community proposed buying a transformer.

I can't force them to pay but I can tell them the implications.
And I can also let tenants know that I will not renew his rent giving him the 6 months notice ahead.

If rent is not expired he should leave at the end of his rent.

Bro, you have 100% right to demand that, and don't make the mistake of begging the landlord for your actions if not see finish go dey Ur body except u dey own house rent. Omo Never bring your issue to nairaland because we have a lot of unreasonable touts with low IQ in this forum who will misguide you ideologically. Google Nigeria tenancy law; you will discover this: biannual 3-month notice, annual payments, 6-month notice to evict. Despite that, when the notice expires, the court will still grant a one-month grace period to be evicted, so you don't even need a lawyer unless you want to live longer and have to battle long litigation. No court will grant 30 days' quit notice in Nigeria. The court will invite you when the matter is ongoing, and your receipt will be viewed in regard to your quit notice duration. Omo just Google am now u go c everytin on the front page of Google. The power is in u urhand but make sure park in regard to d lawful duration. I hardly comment but I did dis bcus of d coward, unreasonable, misguided reply.

Brave man...now your kids are risking sleeping under a bridge.


... I think for something you can't afford to own "yet" you play a fool until you get it.

When your money long, you can easily challenge landlord.

When you challenge your landlord,na go you dey so.
Court cannot help you

Go and beg him!

Stephen0mozzy:
Forget legal action jare. If ywant to stay in the house, just go and talk to him man to man.

That something is right, doesn't mean that the way we ask it is proper - you have said you "demanded", I hope you didn't use the same "attitude" that the word implied?

Anyways, while it's not right, landlords often see themselves as the Lord of the Land on which their house was built - this is a lesson, don't try to be a hero if you can't lead others to join you in doing compound thing.

If you even go to court, the landlord can say he gave you the quit notice because, having considered that the house not having light will be an inconvenience to you, he has decided to terminate your tenancy agreement so you can get a proper house that meets your demand.

Wisdom is always profitable to direct - Landlord wey hold beef with full street naim you think say intimidation by few tenants will faze? You guys could have asked for a general meeting with him and sweet talk him into paying the dues, even if it means contributing small small to assist.

Them nor dey scratch brokos the way e take itch.

Iyawo baale la [TOM TOM]

Wickedtruths:
It is not what you said, it is how you said it.

Go to the nearest Magistrate Court or Local Government. Speak to the officials there, they know how to handle matters like this.

Lawyers go just carry the guy chop. You guys are setting him up.

Tenancy is not slavery. Both parties are benefiting from the relationship.
Landlords should not play God over tenants whose rents they use to feed and clothe themselves. Respect should be reciprocal.

Stephen0mozzy:
Forget legal action jare. If ywant to stay in the house, just go and talk to him man to man.

That something is right, doesn't mean that the way we ask it is proper - you have said you "demanded", I hope you didn't use the same "attitude" that the word implied?

Anyways, while it's not right, landlords often see themselves as the Lord of the Land on which their house was built - this is a lesson, don't try to be a hero if you can't lead others to join you in doing compound thing.

If you even go to court, the landlord can say he gave you the quit notice because, having considered that the house not having light will be an inconvenience to you, he has decided to terminate your tenancy agreement so you can get a proper house that meets your demand.

Wisdom is always profitable to direct - Landlord wey hold beef with full street naim you think say intimidation by few tenants will faze? You guys could have asked for a general meeting with him and sweet talk him into paying the dues, even if it means contributing small small to assist.

Them nor dey scratch brokos the way e take itch.

Best response.

My professor, the law is the law. While the landlord was hash, he will easily win this case any day any time if you go to court.

It is not the duty of any landlord to buy or to contribute for a transformer, transformers belong to the service provider (Disco).
I have contributed in the past but declined joining fellow residents to go for disconnection, when they did, the disconnected residents who know their right were reconnected after approaching PHCN Marina and we just took it as a loss. You can't force them; it is not their fault.
The landlord doesn't even own the disconnected prepaid meter; it is under the management of the disco once connected.
Every connection from the meter to the Disco infrastructure can only be touched by the Disco, you can verify this from NERC or a PHCN official

Back to the issue of quit notice. Emotion or sentiments aside, how will she/he win in court? .....No matter how long the case last and he/she gets a favorable judgement, he/she will still have to pay the rent within that period in addition to the legal fee (unnecessary expense).
If she loses, she will still pay the accrued rent, legal fee and new agreement/agency for the new house she will move to.
So, tell me how she will win without losing more money? The landlord will easily recoup his legal fees from the next tenant simple.

Mind you, she didn't tell you what reason the landlord stated in the notice letter, I am sure he won't be stupid to reference the PHCN altercation.

You can petition the association and push for reconnection as long as that transformer has been handed over to the disco and energized, they are losing money by having you and other tenants disconnected, that is the easier battle.

professorPABX:
You have said it all. This is Nigeria for you. What is happening is that properties ownership and population are changing in Lagos and Ogun State.

You cannot get this type of idiotic and irrational comments 15 or 14 years ago. Most of those comments are just from people indirectly defending their people or their interest.

So, while the community have light and houses without contribution to transformer disconnected, he should have kept quiet and be using Generator like other tenants.

I have been at the Mediation Centre twice over my property and I know what transpired there. The tenants spent more than 6 months . I am also a victim of Landlord idiocy and foolishness in another place and that made me know the type of Landlord is dealing with.

I wonder why nobody has spoken about the legality of the 30 days quit notice and how it will be executed under Law.

From the comments given earlier, you can see why things are like this in Nigeria.

latiephwald:
And this is western country abi? Many of you would be claiming legal right and you couldn't face your Africa politicians.

The third world country is not a place, it’s a people. People who put emotions before common sense. People who are more emotional than logical in their reasoning. People who will not stand to fight for their rights, but will rather say, “I should not be the one to talk.”

In this particular case you’re talking about, this guy was not given the house for free, he paid rent. He asked the landlord to contribute to the cost of the transformer in their area, and you’re here saying he is not supposed to ask. Why? Because it’s “emotional” for him to expect the landlord to do what he ought to do?

This is a man who asked for accountability, yet the only thing you can see important is the landlord’s ego.

Like I said earlier, a third world country is not a place, it’s a people. people with your ideology. Now imagine passing this same mindset down to your children. They pass it to others, their community, even their state. How will we collectively call our politicians to order. Few folks who do it are called names and this guy who asked for accountability was also talked against by you.

And you’re not alone in this look at the number of likes your comment got. That means many people share the same thinking.

So Nigeria is not called a third world country simply because it is Nigeria, it is because of Nigerians. And until we begin to think logically and act with sense, we will continue to remain where we are.

The United States and other developed nations are not first world because of their name. They are where they are because of how their people think and reason.

Until we get it right in Nigeria, we will keep having the same kind of leaders. Leaders who lack accountability and believe it's a privilege to give good governance at every level of leadership.

Oracleee:
The third world country is not a place, it’s a people. People who put emotions before common sense. People who are more emotional than logical in their reasoning. People who will not stand to fight for their rights, but will rather say, “I should not be the one to talk.”

In this particular case you’re talking about, this guy was not given the house for free, he paid rent. He asked the landlord to contribute to the cost of the transformer in their area, and you’re here saying he is not supposed to ask. Why? Because it’s “emotional” for him to expect the landlord to do what he ought to do?

This is a man who asked for accountability, yet the only thing you can see important is the landlord’s ego.

Like I said earlier, a third world country is not a place, it’s a people. people with your ideology. Now imagine passing this same mindset down to your children. They pass it to others, their community, even their state. How will we collectively call our politicians to order. Few folks who do it are called names and this guy who asked for accountability was also talked against by you.

And you’re not alone in this look at the number of likes your comment got. That means many people share the same thinking.

So Nigeria is not called a third world country simply because it is Nigeria, it is because of Nigerians. And until we begin to think logically and act with sense, we will continue to remain where we are.

The United States and other developed nations are not first world because of their name. They are where they are because of how their people think and reason.

Until we get it right in Nigeria, we will keep having the same kind of leaders. Leaders who lack accountability and believe it's a privilege to give good governance at every level of leadership.

I believe we need more people like you. But honestly, what can an ordinary person do in a situation like this when the judicial system is corrupt? Someone who tries to take the legal route could end up being blamed or even imprisoned if they’re not careful.
We really need to start speaking up and writing to our leaders without fear, demanding accountability. Take NEPA for example, despite paying regularly for electricity, they still operate anyhow they like, forcing payments under threat of disconnection. If you protest, they can cut off power to your entire area until people are forced to go and beg them. What has actually been done about this?
Bro, I truly understand your point. But we all know how the Nigerian system works. If you’re not financially strong or don’t have connections in high places, you may regret taking legal action over something that an ordinary “ I'M SORRY” could have resolved.

Stephen0mozzy:
Forget legal action jare. If ywant to stay in the house, just go and talk to him man to man.

That something is right, doesn't mean that the way we ask it is proper - you have said you "demanded", I hope you didn't use the same "attitude" that the word implied?

Anyways, while it's not right, landlords often see themselves as the Lord of the Land on which their house was built - this is a lesson, don't try to be a hero if you can't lead others to join you in doing compound thing.

If you even go to court, the landlord can say he gave you the quit notice because, having considered that the house not having light will be an inconvenience to you, he has decided to terminate your tenancy agreement so you can get a proper house that meets your demand.

Wisdom is always profitable to direct - Landlord wey hold beef with full street naim you think say intimidation by few tenants will faze? You guys could have asked for a general meeting with him and sweet talk him into paying the dues, even if it means contributing small small to assist.

Them nor dey scratch brokos the way e take itch.

You are talking nonsense. That guy can stay in that house till the next six months before moving out. The landlord should have brought that notice six months earlier.

Kingkendrick109:
My professor, the law is the law. While the landlord was hash, he will easily win this case any day any time if you go to court.

It is not the duty of any landlord to buy or to contribute for a transformer, transformers belong to the service provider (Disco).
I have contributed in the past but declined joining fellow residents to go for disconnection, when they did, the disconnected residents who know their right were reconnected after approaching PHCN Marina and we just took it as a loss. You can't force them; it is not their fault.
The landlord doesn't even own the disconnected prepaid meter; it is under the management of the disco once connected.
Every connection from the meter to the Disco infrastructure can only be touched by the Disco, you can verify this from NERC or a PHCN official

Back to the issue of quit notice. Emotion or sentiments aside, how will she/he win in court? .....No matter how long the case last and he/she gets a favorable judgement, he/she will still have to pay the rent within that period in addition to the legal fee (unnecessary expense).
If she loses, she will still pay the accrued rent, legal fee and new agreement/agency for the new house she will move to.
So, tell me how she will win without losing more money? The landlord will easily recoup his legal fees from the next tenant simple.

Mind you, she didn't tell you what reason the landlord stated in the notice letter, I am sure he won't be stupid to reference the PHCN altercation.

You can petition the association and push for reconnection as long as that transformer has been handed over to the disco and energized, they are losing money by having you and other tenants disconnected, that is the easier battle.

I am a member of an Estate Association and also a CDA member in different places. I only read few things from your long epistle and stopped. I never wanted to reply because it is out of context but for what I am experiencing as a tenant in another place I will say few things.

All the issues of transformer, DISCO and the Community Development Association have nothing to do with the tenancy agreement between tenant and Landlord. It is the Landlord that is a bad member of the CDA. The issue between CDA and Landlord is not for tenant except he is delegated by the Landlord to do so on his behalf.

The issue at hand is between Landlord and the tenant. I have been to Mediation Centre twice . I was there when they were at Motorway Building, 7up and now at Alausa. The tenants spent over 6 months. None of my tenants can endure darkness while other houses have light. I cannot also leave them in darkness while others have light. As usual, in that Estate, there are Landlords that contributed much than normal for facilities in that Estate.

My Landlord and the Agent at the place where I am a tenant can do worse than his landlord. Few months ago I just paid 2 years security dues to the CDA. I was the only tenant in that house that has paid 2024/2025 and 2025/2026 security dues. Forcefully, I retrieved the money from the Landlady and paid after harassment at gate by CDA security members over the money I paid together with the rent. I cannot and can never treat my tenants that way. For retrieving the money I am not on talking term with the landlord and the agent.

They burdened tenants with so much responsibility and never fulfilled any of the promises made before payment. That is why I said it is because of poverty. There are some tenants you cannot try nonsense with. Also, there are Landlords that are too refined and urbane to behave like a crude and uncivilized people.

The only thing the Landlord could have done is to plead with tenants to contribute money to settle the CDA for the transformer while they deduct it from their next house rent. He cannot leave them in darkness because he is fighting the CDA of the place he built house.

VHILL:
You are talking nonsense. That guy can stay in that house till the next six months before moving out. The landlord should have brought that notice six months earlier.

k.

Mistermoon:
Please, I need advice on what to do.
The community disconnected electricity supply to our compound because the landlord did not pay a community electrification due (money for transformer) that predates our tenancy and the landlord gave only me a quit notice with 30 days ultimatum because I was the only one brave enough to demand that he pays the due so that electricity can be restored to the house.

I want to take him up legally but I need guidance on how to go about it plus L do not personally know a lawyer.

Why should he pay for transformer?

That's not his responsibility

As an ITK that you are..you got what you deserved...time to start looking for another house