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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 8:40am On May 21
raumdeuter:
I hear what you said and you didnt lie. Today someone in Naija govt is saying people should apply for gun license and arm themselves. I saw a Yoruba Pastor recently encouraging his congregation to also do voodoo, Pastors and Imams used bulletproof wearing guards

A good guy with a gun is the solution to a bad guy with a gun. Any other thing na deception
I don't think Nigeria is ripe for such experiments.
People will kill each other for stupid reasons, for tribalism/religious reasons, even debts. You owe me and you don't want to pay, puff.

These people that still sell their votes to the highest bidder and vote along ethnic lines are the people you want to be allowed to have guns. Are you serious?

If Nigerians are allowed to own guns, what is happening in the US will be child's play.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ballzproblemm: 10:27am On May 21
Nothing like peaceful Muslim grin

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC:
raumdeuter:
The fewer guns is not reality. That is theory and that horse has left the stable
The reality in Nigeria is that there has always been and rhere will always be guns. In Nigeria today if you want to get illegal gun within 2 days there are people you can talk to and will hook you up

By the time you speak to 3 area boys they will get you gun. Even 17yr old confra boys dey get guns in most higher institution. Its only you the law abiding citizen who is the lame duck waiting to be picked up whenever they are ready

When you dont combat guns with guns you just create a chicken in Xmas cage situation where they just come to pick you up anytime

Any criminal can just enter your house with ease and stay for 5hrs because he knows your only solution is Psalm 23 and Koran

A bad guy with a gun also doesnt want to die, he will rather go for soft targets where he cant be challenged, if he knows there are likely to be other guns there he will behave

Plateau governor just made an announcement that they will start arming the locals then the erstwhile hardened Fulanis began to soften their tone

The thing criminals want the most is to be the only side armed so they can keep their monopoly of terror
I don’t think Nigeria is ripe for widespread gun ownership. Though It may reduce some cases of banditry or kidnapping, but it will also increase everyday violence and crimes.

Many issues people currently leave for God, family, elders, or the law because they cannot physically retaliate will suddenly start being “settled” personally once guns become easily available.
Debt issues, land disputes, tribal or ethnic disagreements, relationship problems, road rage, and ordinary arguments could easily turn deadly.

Even worse, there are situations where people already feel frustrated because powerful people often escape justice. Cases where someone knows the law may protect a rich or influential person, or where a case gets to the police station and money changes everything, are examples of matters many people normally leave for God before, But once guns are easily accessible, some people may decide to take matters into their own hands instead of leaving for God or relying on the weak system

In a country like Nigeria, we are already struggling with tension, corruption, and weak law enforcement, more guns could easily bring more bloodshed than security.


I bought 3 plots of land in 2015 for close to 1 million, the same man who sold the land to me later resold it to another person in 2020.
I have not received a single naira in compensation or refund. Meanwhile, land in that same area now costs over 3 million naira per plot.
And this kind of thing happens on a daily basis in Nigeria, while our law enforcement agencies are not really helping matters. Situations like this are part of the reason some people argue against widespread gun ownership. Personally, even if I had a gun, I will not do anything, but another person in the same situation might decide to take matters into his own hands.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:43am On May 21
MorataFC:
I don’t think Nigeria is ripe for widespread gun ownership. Though It may reduce some cases of banditry or kidnapping, but it will also increase everyday violence and crimes.

Many issues people currently leave for God, family, elders, or the law because they cannot physically retaliate will suddenly start being “settled” personally once guns become easily available.
Debt issues, land disputes, tribal or ethnic disagreements, relationship problems, road rage, and ordinary arguments could easily turn deadly.

Even worse, there are situations where people already feel frustrated because powerful people often escape justice. Cases where someone knows the law may protect a rich or influential person, or where a case gets to the police station and money changes everything, are examples of matters many people normally leave for God before, But once guns are easily accessible, some people may decide to take matters into their own hands instead of leaving for God or relying on the weak system

In a country like Nigeria, we are already struggling with tension, corruption, and weak law enforcement, more guns could easily bring more bloodshed than security.


I bought 3 plots of land in 2015 for close to 1 million naira. The land was later resold to another person in 2020, and till today, I have not received a single naira in compensation or refund. Meanwhile, land in that same area now costs over 3 million naira per plot.
And this kind of thing happens on a daily basis in Nigeria, while our law enforcement agencies are not really helping matters. Situations like this are part of the reason some people argue against widespread gun ownership. Personally, even if I had a gun, I will not do anything, but another person in the same situation might decide to take matters into his own hands.
You made a very vital point in your third paragraph. Nigeria is a country where justice hardly gets served in most cases; If gun ownership becomes a thing in this country, dead body go surplus! People would just use their guns to serve that justice they didn't get under the legal system.

Imagine a situation a minor is violated by an adult but because the adult has connections, the case is buried by the police because the adult is from an influential family that has deep connections in government. Shebi the father of the minor will just carry his gun to kpoof the yeye adult that escaped prison sentence for his predatory crime.

All this one that an employer would have ex-employees arrested because they decided to resign and ask for their entitlements, blood go too flow ! Even ordinary road rage that result in Wheel spanner and jack being used as weapon of choice on Lagos road, we would just be witnessing motorists unaliving themselves with their respective guns out of anger. Our Mortuary go too full with corpse asear!
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by obainojazz(m): 11:29am On May 21
Ballzproblemm:
Nothing like peaceful Muslim grin
Their silence loud
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 11:33am On May 21
IGP Tunji Disu will spend most of his tenure reforming the Police, than even fighting criminals.

Every single day, one policeman dey play with him job
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 11:54am On May 21
obainojazz:
Their silence loud
Was he beheaded because of his faith?

I think this is unfair to Muslims. The list also shows there were Muslims kidnapped too.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 12:28pm On May 21
MorataFC:
I don’t think Nigeria is ripe for widespread gun ownership. Though It may reduce some cases of banditry or kidnapping, but it will also increase everyday violence and crimes.

Many issues people currently leave for God, family, elders, or the law because they cannot physically retaliate will suddenly start being “settled” personally once guns become easily available.
Debt issues, land disputes, tribal or ethnic disagreements, relationship problems, road rage, and ordinary arguments could easily turn deadly.

Even worse, there are situations where people already feel frustrated because powerful people often escape justice. Cases where someone knows the law may protect a rich or influential person, or where a case gets to the police station and money changes everything, are examples of matters many people normally leave for God before, But once guns are easily accessible, some people may decide to take matters into their own hands instead of leaving for God or relying on the weak system

In a country like Nigeria, we are already struggling with tension, corruption, and weak law enforcement, more guns could easily bring more bloodshed than security.


I bought 3 plots of land in 2015 for close to 1 million, the same man who sold the land to me later resold it to another person in 2020.
I have not received a single naira in compensation or refund. Meanwhile, land in that same area now costs over 3 million naira per plot.
And this kind of thing happens on a daily basis in Nigeria, while our law enforcement agencies are not really helping matters. Situations like this are part of the reason some people argue against widespread gun ownership. Personally, even if I had a gun, I will not do anything, but another person in the same situation might decide to take matters into his own hands.
They should try it for the sake of the people who think that'll magically fix Nigeria's insecurity problem, Raumdeuter doesn't care if the country is thrown into even greater chaos as long as he can find an excuse to remove Tinubu from the equation. Very wise guy.

If it is actually implemented, the same people calling for it's implementation now will be the ones begging the government to halt it within 6 months. The number of deaths that will be recorded in that six months alone will be more than the total deaths due to gun violence the US records in 10 years. grin

You know Nigerians like testing new things like they said they were tired of PDP and wanted to try out APC only to find themselves in a bigger quagmire.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by CrystalTiger(m): 12:37pm On May 21
Police openly threatening to kill citizens..They won't arrest this dirty thing now until he carries out his threat..


Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 12:48pm On May 21
CrystalTiger:
Police openly threatening to kill citizens..They won't arrest this dirty thing now until he carries out his threat..
Police wearing earring? Npf don suffer
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m):
CrystalTiger:
Police openly threatening to kill citizens..They won't arrest this dirty thing now until he carries out his threat..


frustration wan kpai this one
A hunger man is a very angry man

We preach for reform nothing was done, same blood thirty sars officials are back on the streets

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 1:28pm On May 21
TemporaryHansel:
I don't think Nigeria is ripe for such experiments.
People will kill each other for stupid reasons, for tribalism/religious reasons, even debts. You owe me and you don't want to pay, puff.

These people that still sell their votes to the highest bidder and vote along ethnic lines are the people you want to be allowed to have guns. Are you serious?

If Nigerians are allowed to own guns, what is happening in the US will be child's play.
All these are excuses. People still vote along racial lines even in America
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter:
MorataFC:
I don’t think Nigeria is ripe for widespread gun ownership. Though It may reduce some cases of banditry or kidnapping, but it will also increase everyday violence and crimes.

Many issues people currently leave for God, family, elders, or the law because they cannot physically retaliate will suddenly start being “settled” personally once guns become easily available.
Debt issues, land disputes, tribal or ethnic disagreements, relationship problems, road rage, and ordinary arguments could easily turn deadly.

Even worse, there are situations where people already feel frustrated because powerful people often escape justice. Cases where someone knows the law may protect a rich or influential person, or where a case gets to the police station and money changes everything, are examples of matters many people normally leave for God before, But once guns are easily accessible, some people may decide to take matters into their own hands instead of leaving for God or relying on the weak system

In a country like Nigeria, we are already struggling with tension, corruption, and weak law enforcement, more guns could easily bring more bloodshed than security.


I bought 3 plots of land in 2015 for close to 1 million, the same man who sold the land to me later resold it to another person in 2020.
I have not received a single naira in compensation or refund. Meanwhile, land in that same area now costs over 3 million naira per plot.
And this kind of thing happens on a daily basis in Nigeria, while our law enforcement agencies are not really helping matters. Situations like this are part of the reason some people argue against widespread gun ownership. Personally, even if I had a gun, I will not do anything, but another person in the same situation might decide to take matters into his own hands.
Do you think govt will distribute free guns to everyone? You still have to apply for it
Even in America where guns are legal not everyone has it

You said if you have guns you wont use it, so would majority of the people until a day comes when you need it. If Nigeria any community not a police barracks has 98% chance it will be easy prey

Some of the politicians are saying they should open an army garrison around Oriire LG why? Because they know a presence of people with guns will likely make the bandits to think twice, now how many places can we place cantonments in the country that will make us feel safe?

Think of gun ownership as an insurance policy, most times you dont need it, you hope you dont need it but when its absolutely necessary you will be glad you have it

Look at the state of the entire west Africa now, almost all the countries to our North are in some form of turmoil which ISIS and Al qaeda have an interest in. From Mali to Burkina to Niger 3 weeks ago the terrorists attacked and killed Mali minister of defence. You might ask what's our business in Nigeria, what that means is that there will be a steady supply of ammunition, terrorists who need money to finance their wars, more converts to terrorism and refugees who will be desperate enough to take to crime. Many of those we call abokis in Nigeria today are not even Nigerians they are from Mali Nigeri etc
You can also say why cant we seal our borders. The border is porous even in America drugs and human trafficking still take place

In the last 20yrs Saharan Africa has tasted something evil and it will be difficult to eradicate. The chances are that it will spread
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 2:00pm On May 21
raumdeuter:
All these are excuses. People still vote along racial lines even in America
Tinubu himself said the buck stops at the table of the president. Tinubu is now the president, he should fix the insecurity.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:20pm On May 21
TemporaryHansel:
Tinubu himself said the buck stops at the table of the president. Tinubu is now the president, he should fix the insecurity.
There is a difference between political talk and reality everywhere in the world. The source of the problem is deep. Same reason why every American govt for the past 50yrs cannot fix drug smuggling despite promising it every election
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 2:50pm On May 21
The more Raumdeuter dey write this gun epistle, the more my spirit dey vex angry
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ihebu4chelsea(m): 3:22pm On May 21
Kudos to President Tinubu for appointing a young professor as the new JAMB Registrar. This is a commendable step, and I believe he will greatly improve the examination body through innovation, transparency, and efficiency.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 3:23pm On May 21
izzou:
The more Ramdeuter dey write this gun epistle, the more my spirit dey vex angry
The truth is supposed to vex your spirit, that is what it does

If I had told you a lie that if X, Y or Z became president then we will not have insecurity anymore. You will probably like it and your spirit wont be vexing
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 3:31pm On May 21
raumdeuter:
The truth is supposed to vex your spirit, that is what it does

If I had told you a lie that if X, Y or Z became president then we will not have insecurity anymore. You will probably like it and your spirit wont be vexing
Get thee behind me, Satan angry
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 3:33pm On May 21
izzou:
Get thee behind me, Satan angry
You dey see your boy the 001 of Rivers APC?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 3:35pm On May 21
raumdeuter:
You dey see your boy the 001 of Rivers APC?
Na moo-moo boy nau.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:13pm On May 21
izzou:
Na moo-moo boy nau.
Power pass power.

He miscalculated by fighting Wike in his first term. This was the best deal he can get. If he hadn't gone to APC when he did, he would have been impeached long ago.

Just enjoy till next election, Show your allegiance to the APC party, Go resume houseboy work for Wike house, follow dem dey dance for campaign ground, embrace the APC candidate. so they can let you eat in peace and not chase you after you leave Just like Ambode
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 4:17pm On May 21
izzou:
Get thee behind me, Satan angry
Don't give gay deuter any ideas
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Olowunl01: 4:19pm On May 21
raumdeuter:
There is a difference between political talk and reality everywhere in the world. The source of the problem is deep. Same reason why every American govt for the past 50yrs cannot fix drug smuggling despite promising it every election
So Tinubu knowing sold us fake dreams in APC, cos how did we go from Boko Haram Terroist in Borno during Jonathan PDP to Terriost in Oyo? Seems APC has made every situation worse for Nigerian Life since taking over? I cannot say there's 1 area that impacts the quality of life of the average Nigerian that has improved.

All these roads, bridges etc we had similar Jonathan, Orisa Tí o bá gbémí,fi mí sílẹ̀ bí ẹ ṣe bá mi; Tinubu has to go all out and wipe this people off yoruba land, anything less he is a coward and way worse than Jonathan, nobody should compare Tinubu to Obasanjo, cos based on current workings he is far far off.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by akwesenana: 4:23pm On May 21
I hear Frank's wife cloned his WhatsApp and texted ladies so it looks like he is cheating.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:26pm On May 21
Olowunl01:
So Tinubu knowing sold us fake dreams in APC, cos how did we go from Boko Haram Terroist in Borno during Jonathan PDP to Terriost in Oyo? Seems APC has made every situation worse for Nigerian Life since taking over? I cannot say there's 1 area that impacts the quality of life of the average Nigerian that has improved.

All these roads, bridges etc we had similar Jonathan, Orisa Tí o bá gbémí,fi mí sílẹ̀ bí ẹ ṣe bá mi; Tinubu has to go all out and wipe this people off yoruba land, anything less he is a coward and way worse than Jonathan, nobody should compare Tinubu to Obasanjo, cos based on current workings he is far far off.
The reality on ground is what we are dealing with, Between 2014 and 2022 is 8yrs where security got worse overall and expanded from the subregion and filtered into the country, When we were growing up, we had kidnappers for ransom but you hardly hear mass kidnap at schools, you didn't have people blowing themselves up to kill others, we didn't have religious based terror, Now its a daily reality,

University students are going to school without the usual strikes, this is probably the 3yrs with the least amount of strikes since I have been an adult.
Roads and bridges at this rate, we didnt, Even Jonathan couldnt complete the 2nd Niger bridge,

You want Tinubu to wipe out these people, Good, But how do you recognize them? How do you know the Abdul selling cows that you grew up with and played ball with is not one of them, So how do you wipe an ideology out
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 4:28pm On May 21
raumdeuter:
Power pass power.

He miscalculated by fighting Wike in his first term. This was the best deal he can get. If he hadn't gone to APC when he did, he would have been impeached long ago.

Just enjoy till next election, Show your allegiance to the APC party, Go resume houseboy work for Wike house, follow dem dey dance for campaign ground, embrace the APC candidate. so they can let you eat in peace and not chase you after you leave Just like Ambode
Since when he decamped to APC till now, he couldn't grow any alliance at all?

Even amongst the Ijaw and Ogoni? Even amongst other APC state governors?

Well, he will be remembered like Celestine Omehia
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 4:28pm On May 21
raumdeuter:
The reality on ground is what we are dealing with, Between 2014 and 2022 is 8yrs where security got worse overall and expanded from the subregion and filtered into the country, When we were growing up, we had kidnappers for ransom but you hardly hear mass kidnap at schools, you didn't have people blowing themselves up to kill others, we didn't have religious based terror, Now its a daily reality,

University students are going to school without the usual strikes, this is probably the 3yrs with the least amount of strikes since I have been an adult.
Roads and bridges at this rate, we didnt, Even Jonathan couldnt complete the 2nd Niger bridge,

You want Tinubu to wipe out these people, Good, But how do you recognize them? How do you know the Abdul selling cows that you grew up with and played ball with is not one of them, So how do you wipe an ideology out
So Tinubu didn't know all these before he entered?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Olowunl01: 4:36pm On May 21
raumdeuter:
Do you think govt will distribute free guns to everyone? You still have to apply for it
Even in America where guns are legal not everyone has it

You said if you have guns you wont use it, so would majority of the people until a day comes when you need it. If Nigeria any community not a police barracks has 98% chance it will be easy prey

Some of the politicians are saying they should open an army garrison around Oriire LG why? Because they know a presence of people with guns will likely make the bandits to think twice, now how many places can we place cantonments in the country that will make us feel safe?

Think of gun ownership as an insurance policy, most times you dont need it, you hope you dont think but when its absolutely necessary you will be glad you have it

Look at the state of the entire west Africa now, almost all the countries to our North are in some form of turmoil which ISIS and Al qaeda have an interest in. From Mali to Burkina to Niger 3 weeks ago the terrorists attacked and killed Mali minister of defence. You might ask what's our business in Nigeria, what that means is that there will be a steady supply of ammunition, terrorists who need money to finance their wars, more converts to terrorism and refugees who will be desperate enough to take to crime. Many of those we call abokis in Nigeria today are not even Nigerians they are from Mali Nigeri etc
You can also say why cant we seal our borders. The border is porous even in America drugs and human trafficking still take place

In the last 20yrs Saharan Africa has tasted something evil and it will be difficult to eradicate. The chances are that it will spread
Let them first cancel that nonsense amnesty and rehabilitation of terroist, then recruit more people into police & army, we have lots of young people without gainful employment, let Tinubu fulfill his campaign promise of recruiting more people, if a recruitment drive for new recruits will starting pay of N300K per month thousand of young people will join probably total cost of N500B for 100K people with adequate training we get more value then the amount spent on those at the NASS.

Solutions plenty but lack of political will to do the right thing has always been our problem.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Olowunl01: 4:49pm On May 21
raumdeuter:
The reality on ground is what we are dealing with, Between 2014 and 2022 is 8yrs where security got worse overall and expanded from the subregion and filtered into the country, When we were growing up, we had kidnappers for ransom but you hardly hear mass kidnap at schools, you didn't have people blowing themselves up to kill others, we didn't have religious based terror, Now its a daily reality,

University students are going to school without the usual strikes, this is probably the 3yrs with the least amount of strikes since I have been an adult.
Roads and bridges at this rate, we didnt, Even Jonathan couldnt complete the 2nd Niger bridge,

You want Tinubu to wipe out these people, Good, But how do you recognize them? How do you know the Abdul selling cows that you grew up with and played ball with is not one of them, So how do you wipe an ideology out
C'mon Chief, the Abdul would not be openly carrying arms, especially in Oyo.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:49pm On May 21
izzou:
Since when he decamped to APC till now, he couldn't grow any alliance at all?

Even amongst the Ijaw and Ogoni? Even amongst other APC state governors?

Well, he will be remembered like Celestine Omehia
Grow alliance when the power broker has cornered you. Who will align with Fubara and risk warfare with Wike and by extension FG

Which APC governor will put his own neck on the line to save Fubara
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