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Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by usebog(op): 6:26am On May 22
Hello budaatum LordReed. Please I need both your advice. I know both of you are mentor here
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by usebog(op): 6:55am On May 22
It is about spirituality
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by LordReed(m): 8:50am On May 22
usebog:
Hello budaatum LordReed. Please I need both your advice. I know both of you are mentor here
Hi. What do you need advice on?
usebog:
It is about spirituality
Oh OK. What exactly is the challenge?
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by usebog(op): 9:41am On May 22
LordReed:
Hi. What do you need advice on?

Oh OK. What exactly is the challenge?
I don't like spirituality at all. I don't want to get involved at all. I like myself like that but something strange has been happening. I have been hearing voices like 5 months ago now. I don't even understand what is going on, I don't understand what is going on. I had to travel from my city to another city but I keep hearing the voice. This is not natural. I've been ignoring the voices thinking it is my own brain playing tricks on me but it is not.
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by usebog(op): 9:43am On May 22
It is like the voices see everything I'm doing. It is so strange and I'm afraid
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by LordReed(m):
usebog:
I don't like spirituality at all. I don't want to get involved at all. I like myself like that but something strange has been happening. I have been hearing voices like 5 months ago now. I don't even understand what is going on, I don't understand what is going on. I had to travel from my city to another city but I keep hearing the voice. This is not natural. I've been ignoring the voices thinking it is my own brain playing tricks on me but it is not.
Sorry to hear you are disturbed but you should know you are not alone in this. This is a phenomenon that has been known about for thousands of years and it is not a spiritual thing. Unfortunately, it is linked to mental illness and all the stigma that comes with it. The good news is you can be treated and have these voices attenuated or eliminated but you need to reach out to a professional.
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by budaatum: 11:42am On May 22
LordReed:
Unfortunately, it is linked to mental illness and all the stigma that comes with it.
And unfortunately, that link is not always right, and is often the mind trying to communicate with the person, but the person often can not decipher what the mind is saying because they can't understand their mind.

usebog, what are you hearing the voices say?
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by budaatum: 11:52am On May 22
usebog:
I don't like spirituality at all.
What exactly does spirituality mean to you?

usebog:
I've been ignoring the voices thinking it is my own brain playing tricks on me but it is not.
It is your brain making your mind communicate with you, and it shouldn't be ignored.

In fact, you should get a notebook and write down everything you hear the voices say.

When we read that the likes of Eve was spoken to by a serpent, and that prophet who was spoken to by a donkey, and Jesus being tempted by a satan on a mountain, and Mohammed being delivered the Quran by an angel Gabriel etc, we are being informed of experiences like yours.
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by bobestman(m): 12:25pm On May 22
You are hearing voices which is a spiritual thing but want to depend on atheists to solve it for you.

You may hate spirituality and religion and yea they have their truth and wrongs but they have answers in many issues like this better than science

Now they are advising you that you are gradually running mad. I guess that's the best for you since that's what you wanna hear

Spiritual issues require spiritual approach. Athiesm can never help you here cos the spiritual controls the physical. We were first spiritual beings before manifesting here on this plane. As spiritual beings with human experience we will encounter such spiritual stuffs

Just like everything are in twos good and bad so hearing voices could be positive or negative. Some dead relative may be trying to pass a message to you or trying to gain your attention on something. I can't discourage you in whatever path you wanna follow but the first thing to do here is to

Summon courage and ask the voice what is the problem? What do you want? Who are you? Don't be afraid. Be strong

Meditate on the issue. Sit quietly in a very calm place and ask what it want from you. Breath slowly. Ask and wait for answers. If you dream you may get answers through dreams or vision or even hear them out. Try and do that first since you don't believe in any spiritual or religious stuff. Many medical problems people face today has some spiritual tones
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by jaephoenix(m): 1:48pm On May 22
usebog:
I don't like spirituality at all. I don't want to get involved at all. I like myself like that but something strange has been happening. I have been hearing voices like 5 months ago now. I don't even understand what is going on, I don't understand what is going on. I had to travel from my city to another city but I keep hearing the voice. This is not natural. I've been ignoring the voices thinking it is my own brain playing tricks on me but it is not.
See a psychiatrist. At least you have insight. What you're having is called auditory hallucinations. Rhat is a psychotic symptom and could be schizophrenia. What do they talk about? Are they referring to you or others? Are they talking in first or third person? Many questions I wanna ask but I can't help you. I'm only a physician not a psychiatrist. We don't need another Dtruthspeaker abeg
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by jaephoenix(m): 1:49pm On May 22
bobestman:
You are hearing voices which is a spiritual thing but want to depend on atheists to solve it for you.

You may hate spirituality and religion and yea they have their truth and wrongs but they have answers in many issues like this better than science

Now they are advising you that you are gradually running mad. I guess that's the best for you since that's what you wanna hear

Spiritual issues require spiritual approach. Athiesm can never help you here cos the spiritual controls the physical. We were first spiritual beings before manifesting here on this plane. As spiritual beings with human experience we will encounter such spiritual stuffs

Just like everything are in twos good and bad so hearing voices could be positive or negative. Some dead relative may be trying to pass a message to you or trying to gain your attention on something. I can't discourage you in whatever path you wanna follow but the first thing to do here is to

Summon courage and ask the voice what is the problem? What do you want? Who are you? Don't be afraid. Be strong

Meditate on the issue. Sit quietly in a very calm place and ask what it want from you. Breath slowly. Ask and wait for answers. If you dream you may get answers through dreams or vision or even hear them out. Try and do that first since you don't believe in any spiritual or religious stuff. Many medical problems people face today has some spiritual tones
Do you believe mental diseases exist?
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by bobestman(m): 1:56pm On May 22
jaephoenix:
Do you believe mental diseases exist?
Hahaha yea. Do you think the problem here is mental disease?
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by jaephoenix(m): 2:11pm On May 22
bobestman:
Hahaha yea. Do you think the problem here is mental disease?
So you believe mental diseases exist? Ok. How can you differentiate between a schizophrenic who says that his father is the king of the whole world,and a poor Christian living in the slum who believes his father is the ruler of the world?
I need concise information,please. Thank you
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by usebog(op): 3:51pm On May 22
budaatum:
And unfortunately, that link is not always right, and is often the mind trying to communicate with the person, but the person often can not decipher what the mind is saying because they can't understand their mind.

usebog, what are you hearing the voices say?
I hear two voices, sometimes three. One woman and a boy. I hear the voices everytime. It is like the voices want me to have depression. Anytime I'm happy this voices are angry and will say things to make me sad. I can't think straight anymore. Now the most surprising thing about this voices is they always ask themselves if I'm hearing them because I always ignore them. Why I know this voice is not my brain is that they only know what they know since I've been hearing them. They don't know anything other than that. What I mean is they know stuff about me since they have come, not prior. This is getting out of hand. They will call my name and say to themselves, this guy is not hearing us?
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by usebog(op): 3:53pm On May 22
budaatum:
What exactly does spirituality mean to you?

Spirituality means to have higher someone somewhere and to juju and stuff. I don't really have any interest in any of that.

It is your brain making your mind communicate with you, and it shouldn't be ignored.

In fact, you should get a notebook and write down everything you hear the voices say.

When we read that the likes of Eve was spoken to by a serpent, and that prophet who was spoken to by a donkey, and Jesus being tempted by a satan on a mountain, and Mohammed being delivered the Quran by an angel Gabriel etc, we are being informed of experiences like yours.
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by usebog(op): 3:56pm On May 22
jaephoenix:
See a psychiatrist. At least you have insight. What you're having is called auditory hallucinations. Rhat is a psychotic symptom and could be schizophrenia. What do they talk about? Are they referring to you or others? Are they talking in first or third person? Many questions I wanna ask but I can't help you. I'm only a physician not a psychiatrist. We don't need another Dtruthspeaker abeg
They talk about me. They want me to be sad. They are not talking in third person. They will talk so I can hear and be sad. I don't want to hear voices again. I'm afraid
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by jaephoenix(m): 4:44pm On May 22
usebog:
They talk about me. They want me to be sad. They are not talking in third person. They will talk so I can hear and be sad. I don't want to hear voices again. I'm afraid
Can you do an example of the speech content
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by usebog(op): 4:50pm On May 22
jaephoenix:
Can you do an example of the speech content
Sometimes, when I act like I see them or I just face one direction. They will be saying among themselves that this guy see us? No he can never see us. How can he see us? Then they laugh
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by bobestman(m): 5:08pm On May 22
jaephoenix:
So you believe mental diseases exist? Ok. How can you differentiate between a schizophrenic who says that his father is the king of the whole world,and a poor Christian living in the slum who believes his father is the ruler of the world?
I need concise information,please. Thank you
The difference is that the schizophrenic patient has mental issues while the poor christian don't

The schizophrenic patient saying his father is the king of the world, we agree that he is wrong cos he has a mental disorder

The poor christian saying same thing might not be wrong cos his problem is bases on believe cos of what he has seen or heard. Our ancestors spoke with unseen being. Its also possible in spirituality. In religion their are countless example on the issue. One his God calling Samuel in the bible but he was afraid. The priest told him to tell the voice to speak whenever he heard it again. He did and everything he was told was fulfilled in the bible. This things can be proved traditionally, spiritually and religiously.

My advise to him is to summon courage and speak to the voice and hear them out. He can also declare that he has nothing with them that they should leave him alone. It might work since he don't believe in anything. Better than being afraid and becoming a psychiatrist patient. In all the people in psychiatrist hospitals how many have you healed? Most of their cases are spiritual not medical.
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by LordReed(m): 10:44pm On May 22
usebog:
I hear two voices, sometimes three. One woman and a boy. I hear the voices everytime. It is like the voices want me to have depression. Anytime I'm happy this voices are angry and will say things to make me sad. I can't think straight anymore. Now the most surprising thing about this voices is they always ask themselves if I'm hearing them because I always ignore them. Why I know this voice is not my brain is that they only know what they know since I've been hearing them. They don't know anything other than that. What I mean is they know stuff about me since they have come, not prior. This is getting out of hand. They will call my name and say to themselves, this guy is not hearing us?
You say they come when you are happy, how do they know you are happy? Happiness is not a sign written above your head, it's your internal state. They know because it is an internal issue.
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by Kobojunkie: 12:08am On May 23
usebog:
➜I don't like spirituality at all. I don't want to get involved at all. I like myself like that but something strange has been happening. I have been hearing voices like 5 months ago now. I don't even understand what is going on, I don't understand what is going on. I had to travel from my city to another city but I keep hearing the voice. This is not natural. I've been ignoring the voices thinking it is my own brain playing tricks on me but it is not.
You didn't tell us what the voices have been saying to you. The voices could simply be your inner voices/thoughts and may be a result of major depression. Otherwise, the voice could be a result of Schizophrenic symptoms, or worse, DID.😒

Anyways, please make an appointment immediately to see a professional mental health therapist. 😒
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by Kobojunkie: 12:16am On May 23
usebog:
➜I hear two voices, sometimes three. One woman and a boy. I hear the voices everytime. It is like the voices want me to have depression.
➜ Anytime I'm happy this voices are angry and will say things to make me sad. I can't think straight anymore. Now the most surprising thing about this voices is they always ask themselves if I'm hearing them because I always ignore them.
➜ Why I know this voice is not my brain is that they only know what they know since I've been hearing them. They don't know anything other than that. What I mean is they know stuff about me since they have come, not prior. This is getting out of hand. They will call my name and say to themselves, this guy is not hearing us?
Voices want you to have depression, or is it the case that you hear the voices because you already have symptoms of depression? 😒

2. Please see a psychiatrist immediately. 😒

3. WOW.... kind of like DID(Dissociative Identity Disorder)? When did this problem really start? Was there a traumatic experience that came before you noticed this problem? 🤔
Does any of the information at the following website make sense to your situation? https://did-research.org/did/myths

Again, see a Psychiatrist asap. 🤔
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by mysticwarrior(m): 6:32am On May 23
bobestman:
You are hearing voices which is a spiritual thing but want to depend on atheists to solve it for you.

You may hate spirituality and religion and yea they have their truth and wrongs but they have answers in many issues like this better than science

Now they are advising you that you are gradually running mad. I guess that's the best for you since that's what you wanna hear

Spiritual issues require spiritual approach. Athiesm can never help you here cos the spiritual controls the physical. We were first spiritual beings before manifesting here on this plane. As spiritual beings with human experience we will encounter such spiritual stuffs

Just like everything are in twos good and bad so hearing voices could be positive or negative. Some dead relative may be trying to pass a message to you or trying to gain your attention on something. I can't discourage you in whatever path you wanna follow but the first thing to do here is to

Summon courage and ask the voice what is the problem? What do you want? Who are you? Don't be afraid. Be strong

Meditate on the issue. Sit quietly in a very calm place and ask what it want from you. Breath slowly. Ask and wait for answers. If you dream you may get answers through dreams or vision or even hear them out. Try and do that first since you don't believe in any spiritual or religious stuff. Many medical problems people face today has some spiritual tones
Leave him let him follow the advice of those saying it's a mental illness and he should seek help from a professional, he would end up being chained and locked up in a psychiatric evaluation center.
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:13am On May 23
When we come to people's house with the intention to study the Bible with them most will drive us away without a second thought about what could make these happy people leave their homes to come visiting uninvited?
Well if you study the Bible the only reason why people hear voices is mental issues from the layman's viewpoint but when you look critically at the matter it's not absolutely true. 1Corinthans 2:14

Why?

Children between 1-10 may experience such a thing because their brains is still developing so things they have heard or passed through their ears unnoticed may come back to their brains since they are not mature enough to distinguish between thoughts and voices it will be as if some people are talking to them and they may start saying or doing strange things. But by the time you pass that stage if such should happen then it simply means you have had some dealings with the underworld (spirits) that is what leads many into being possessed by demons.

So the best approach to handle this is by retracing your steps, if you have any object or item having to do with spirits around you throw them away such items belongs to them (demons) and so it's like you keep inviting them each time they notice it either in your body or in your house. The demons have advanced in their dealings so it could even be a seemingly harmless tattoo on your skin but it's their symbol.

After you've done that then try to always stay with people who have no business with demons {Psalms 1:1} you might have been attracted to them due to love of riches but when you start to deal with people who takes life simple the demons will become irritated and leave you completely. Matthew 6:22-23

Demons are sadists so they don't want anyone to be truly happy.
What do i mean by being truly happy?

Accumulating material possessions may seem like a ticket to happiness but it's not 99.9% of wealthy people are not happy {Ecclesiastes 5:12} but since they have so much to call their own ignorant people around them envy them whereas they can't chew more than what their mouth can contain, they can't wear more clothes than their bodies neither can they occupy two beds at a time. 1Timothy 6:6-8

So if you go to people who don't believe in unseen beings they will tell you to seek the help of a psychiatrist but the truth is the voices you are hearing is real those talking to you are not mere imaginary thoughts you just need to do things that will irritate them and they will leave you! James 4:7
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by paxonel(m): 8:07am On May 23
Usebog, you are disturbed because this kind of thing isn't normal and it will never going to replace normality.

A better and happy life is simply being normal
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by jaephoenix(m): 1:30pm On May 23
usebog:
Sometimes, when I act like I see them or I just face one direction. They will be saying among themselves that this guy see us? No he can never see us. How can he see us? Then they laugh
Do they repeat your thought? Do they insert thoughts into your head? Do you also see them? Do they discuss others? Etc
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by jaephoenix(m): 1:35pm On May 23
bobestman:
The difference is that the schizophrenic patient has mental issues while the poor christian don't

The schizophrenic patient saying his father is the king of the world, we agree that he is wrong cos he has a mental disorder

The poor christian saying same thing might not be wrong cos his problem is bases on believe cos of what he has seen or heard. Our ancestors spoke with unseen being. Its also possible in spirituality. In religion their are countless example on the issue. One his God calling Samuel in the bible but he was afraid. The priest told him to tell the voice to speak whenever he heard it again. He did and everything he was told was fulfilled in the bible. This things can be proved traditionally, spiritually and religiously.

My advise to him is to summon courage and speak to the voice and hear them out. He can also declare that he has nothing with them that they should leave him alone. It might work since he don't believe in anything. Better than being afraid and becoming a psychiatrist patient. In all the people in psychiatrist hospitals how many have you healed? Most of their cases are spiritual not medical.
U misunderstand me.
If I get 2 people and they both tell me they have rich fathers even though they are visibly poor,how would you decipher the Christian and schizophrenic?
What do you mean 'our ancestors spoke with unseen beings'?
And no I don't believe the bible. The stories there have been proven to be untrue.
And yes,we do heal many psychotics. Take a trip to psychiatric wards and see for yourself, instead of echoing people outside
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by jaephoenix(m): 1:38pm On May 23
Kobojunkie:
Voices want you to have depression, or is it the case that you hear the voices because you already have symptoms of depression? 😒

2. Please see a psychiatrist immediately. 😒

3. WOW.... kind of like DID(Dissociative Identity Disorder)? When did this problem really start? Was there a traumatic experience that came before you noticed this problem? 🤔
Does any of the information at the following website make sense to your situation? https://did-research.org/did/myths

Again, see a Psychiatrist asap. 🤔
Its not DID. There would have been dissociative symptoms and many of them dont have insight like him
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by usebog(op): 1:38pm On May 23
jaephoenix:
Do they repeat your thought? Do they insert thoughts into your head? Do you also see them? Do they discuss others? Etc
No I don't see them, they do not repeat my thoughts, they don't know what I'm thinking and they don't put thoughts into my head. No they don't talk about others. Only me. They are asking themselves why is he not angry? Didn't he know we are talking about him? Why is he smiling? He is just fooling himself
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by jaephoenix(m): 1:40pm On May 23
mysticwarrior:
Leave him let him follow the advice of those saying it's a mental illness and he should seek help from a professional, he would end up being chained and locked up in a psychiatric evaluation center.
Ignorance personified.
We dont chain psychotic patients. We only restrain violent and manic psychotic patients and before we even do that we try chemical restraint before the physical restraint.
The way you guys expose your iifmorancge of medical process is amazing,and some of you would still argue with doctors online
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by mysticwarrior(m): 3:46pm On May 23
jaephoenix:
Ignorance personified.
We dont chain psychotic patients. We only restrain violent and manic psychotic patients and before we even do that we try chemical restraint before the physical restraint.
The way you guys expose your iifmorancge of medical process is amazing,and some of you would still argue with doctors online
I have seen psychiatric patients in chains in Uselu Benin City, Edo state. Or don't they put them in chains to restrain them physically?

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