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Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by bobestman(m): 4:05pm On May 23
usebog:
No I don't see them, they do not repeat my thoughts, they don't know what I'm thinking and they don't put thoughts into my head. No they don't talk about others. Only me. They are asking themselves why is he not angry? Didn't he know we are talking about him? Why is he smiling? He is just fooling himself
All your replies here shows your case is not a mental case but spiritual. If you follow him cos you hate spirituality you might become a customer in psychiatrist Institution

You only hear them. They aren't hurting you but just laugh. Things that might cause it
You might be a spiritual person but refuse to answer or follow the path. Your spiritual forces might do all that to get you back. Some who refused to answer their calling ran mad

It might be a spell cast on you by someone who hate you to make you uncomfortable and be running around. Are your hands clean? Do you hurt people?

First confront this people without fear first and see if they will leave or say what they want? That's how you know the problem. If you are spiritual you could pray and command them to leave you

Their is nothing wrong being spiritual or religious. All have their Truths and some wrong. They always ha e a way to handle this. I feel you are a spiritual person who don't want to follow that path. Atheism will make you nothing. When you believe in nothing and kill the inner voice within you, you become nothing even when gone
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by bobestman(m):
mysticwarrior:
Leave him let him follow the advice of those saying it's a mental illness and he should seek help from a professional, he would end up being chained and locked up in a psychiatric evaluation center.
With all he is saying here, it's not a mental problem but spiritual
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by bobestman(m): 4:31pm On May 23
jaephoenix:
U misunderstand me.
If I get 2 people and they both tell me they have rich fathers even though they are visibly poor,how would you decipher the Christian and schizophrenic?
What do you mean 'our ancestors spoke with unseen beings'?
And no I don't believe the bible. The stories there have been proven to be untrue.
And yes,we do heal many psychotics. Take a trip to psychiatric wards and see for yourself, instead of echoing people outside
Oga stop the games. Am beyond that

Your ancestors are those who came before you. Your great grand fathers. It could also be those who were here when the earth began. They are highly spiritual people who work with nature and di great things. So some of us have some traits that they have. They know how to deal with this kind cases. They existed when science was nature. Science is manipulating nature to get what they want. Whatever they do have their root in nature. Your believe I. Bible doesn't matter.
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by jaephoenix(m): 5:36pm On May 23
mysticwarrior:
I have seen psychiatric patients in chains in Uselu Benin City, Edo state. Or don't they put them in chains to restrain them physically?
I just talked about physical restraint which includes chaining,didn't I?
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by jaephoenix(m): 5:38pm On May 23
bobestman:
All your replies here shows your case is not a mental case but spiritual. If you follow him cos you hate spirituality you might become a customer in psychiatrist Institution

You only hear them. They aren't hurting you but just laugh. Things that might cause it
You might be a spiritual person but refuse to answer or follow the path. Your spiritual forces might do all that to get you back. Some who refused to answer their calling ran mad

It might be a spell cast on you by someone who hate you to make you uncomfortable and be running around. Are your hands clean? Do you hurt people?

First confront this people without fear first and see if they will leave or say what they want? That's how you know the problem. If you are spiritual you could pray and command them to leave you

Their is nothing wrong being spiritual or religious. All have their Truths and some wrong. They always ha e a way to handle this. I feel you are a spiritual person who don't want to follow that path. Atheism will make you nothing. When you believe in nothing and kill the inner voice within you, you become nothing even when gone
Can you prove all this spiritual hullabaloo,ir is it just another case of dem say
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by bobestman(m): 5:43pm On May 23
jaephoenix:
Can you prove all this spiritual hullabaloo,ir is it just another case of dem say
Hahaha the way you believe you have prove in what you believe is also same way others believe they have prove in what they chosed to believe
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by jaephoenix(m): 5:43pm On May 23
bobestman:
Oga stop the games. Am beyond that

Your ancestors are those who came before you. Your great grand fathers. It could also be those who were here when the earth began. They are highly spiritual people who work with nature and di great things. So some of us have some traits that they have. They know how to deal with this kind cases. They existed when science was nature. Science is manipulating nature to get what they want. Whatever they do have their root in nature. Your believe I. Bible doesn't matter.
This post reeks of pure ignorance.
You dont know what science is. If I ask you to prove your spirituality,I'll have another round of 'dem talk say'
If u can't prove anything, then this convo is useless
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by Kobojunkie: 5:49pm On May 23
jaephoenix:
➜Its not DID. There would have been dissociative symptoms and many of them dont have insight like him
I wouldn't be so sure it isn't. It is possible that there were dissociative symptoms, but he did not pay mind to them, as many people don't.😒
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by mysticwarrior(m): 5:52pm On May 23
jaephoenix:
I just talked about physical restraint which includes chaining,didn't I?
We dont chain psychotic patients. Those were your words.
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by jaephoenix(m): 5:59pm On May 23
bobestman:
Hahaha the way you believe you have prove in what you believe is also same way others believe they have prove in what they chosed to believe
The difference between us is i believe in science,which can be proven anytime,anyday,anywhere. For example,i can prove if i pour acid on paper,it will dissolve.
You can't prove your spirituality. If I ask anyone to prove odieshi is real,all I hear is go to one obscure village
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by jaephoenix(m): 10:22am On May 24
Kobojunkie:
I wouldn't be so sure it isn't. It is possible that there were dissociative symptoms, but he did not pay mind to them, as many people don't.😒
There's no dissociative symptoms. Besides he has insight, which is a good symptom
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by jaephoenix(m): 10:24am On May 24
mysticwarrior:
We dont chain psychotic patients. Those were your words.
The chains you depicted in that pic is not in use in psychiatric hospitals. We use straitjackets
That picture was not taken in a psychiatric hospital,it was in the community,probably street
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by correctguy101(m): 10:39am On May 24
bobestman:
You are hearing voices which is a spiritual thing but want to depend on atheists to solve it for you.

You may hate spirituality and religion and yea they have their truth and wrongs but they have answers in many issues like this better than science

Now they are advising you that you are gradually running mad. I guess that's the best for you since that's what you wanna hear

Spiritual issues require spiritual approach. Athiesm can never help you here cos the spiritual controls the physical. We were first spiritual beings before manifesting here on this plane. As spiritual beings with human experience we will encounter such spiritual stuffs

Just like everything are in twos good and bad so hearing voices could be positive or negative. Some dead relative may be trying to pass a message to you or trying to gain your attention on something. I can't discourage you in whatever path you wanna follow but the first thing to do here is to

Summon courage and ask the voice what is the problem? What do you want? Who are you? Don't be afraid. Be strong

Meditate on the issue. Sit quietly in a very calm place and ask what it want from you. Breath slowly. Ask and wait for answers. If you dream you may get answers through dreams or vision or even hear them out. Try and do that first since you don't believe in any spiritual or religious stuff. Many medical problems people face today has some spiritual tones
Especially doing away with fear.

Who doesn't have voices in their head? That of Mr OP is louder and sounds like it's audible for a reason.

It's best he handles it calmly and without fear else he'll truly be convinced he's gone mad and that would be a self fulfilling prophecy...
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by correctguy101(m): 10:41am On May 24
bobestman:
You are hearing voices which is a spiritual thing but want to depend on atheists to solve it for you.

You may hate spirituality and religion and yea they have their truth and wrongs but they have answers in many issues like this better than science

Now they are advising you that you are gradually running mad. I guess that's the best for you since that's what you wanna hear

Spiritual issues require spiritual approach. Athiesm can never help you here cos the spiritual controls the physical. We were first spiritual beings before manifesting here on this plane. As spiritual beings with human experience we will encounter such spiritual stuffs

Just like everything are in twos good and bad so hearing voices could be positive or negative. Some dead relative may be trying to pass a message to you or trying to gain your attention on something. I can't discourage you in whatever path you wanna follow but the first thing to do here is to

Summon courage and ask the voice what is the problem? What do you want? Who are you? Don't be afraid. Be strong

Meditate on the issue. Sit quietly in a very calm place and ask what it want from you. Breath slowly. Ask and wait for answers. If you dream you may get answers through dreams or vision or even hear them out. Try and do that first since you don't believe in any spiritual or religious stuff. Many medical problems people face today has some spiritual tones
Especially doing away with fear.

Who doesn't have voices in their head? That inner dialogue is natural with all. That of Mr OP is louder and sounds like it's audible for a reason.

It's best he handles it calmly and without fear else he'll truly be convinced he's gone mad and that would be a self fulfilling prophecy...
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by correctguy101(m): 10:42am On May 24
bobestman:
You are hearing voices which is a spiritual thing but want to depend on atheists to solve it for you.

You may hate spirituality and religion and yea they have their truth and wrongs but they have answers in many issues like this better than science

Now they are advising you that you are gradually running mad. I guess that's the best for you since that's what you wanna hear

Spiritual issues require spiritual approach. Athiesm can never help you here cos the spiritual controls the physical. We were first spiritual beings before manifesting here on this plane. As spiritual beings with human experience we will encounter such spiritual stuffs

Just like everything are in twos good and bad so hearing voices could be positive or negative. Some dead relative may be trying to pass a message to you or trying to gain your attention on something. I can't discourage you in whatever path you wanna follow but the first thing to do here is to

Summon courage and ask the voice what is the problem? What do you want? Who are you? Don't be afraid. Be strong

Meditate on the issue. Sit quietly in a very calm place and ask what it want from you. Breath slowly. Ask and wait for answers. If you dream you may get answers through dreams or vision or even hear them out. Try and do that first since you don't believe in any spiritual or religious stuff. Many medical problems people face today has some spiritual tones
Especially doing away with fear.

Who doesn't have voices in their head? That inner dialogue is natural with all. That of Mr OP is louder and sounds like it's audible for a reason.

It's best he handles it calmly and without fear else he'll truly be convinced he's gone mad and that would be a self fulfilling prophecy...
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by correctguy101(m): 10:46am On May 24
jaephoenix:
See a psychiatrist. At least you have insight. What you're having is called auditory hallucinations. Rhat is a psychotic symptom and could be schizophrenia. What do they talk about? Are they referring to you or others? Are they talking in first or third person? Many questions I wanna ask but I can't help you. I'm only a physician not a psychiatrist. We don't need another Dtruthspeaker abeg
Auditory hallucinations is what they're called now? Hallelujah, it's no longer spiritual.

Tell Mr OP his thoughts are louder than usual and he should clmly handle it and rein it in.
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by correctguy101(m): 10:57am On May 24
mysticwarrior:
Leave him let him follow the advice of those saying it's a mental illness and he should seek help from a professional, he would end up being chained and locked up in a psychiatric evaluation center.
Even malaria was once the handiwork of the gods... And only the native doctors in town could help placate them for the right herbs to usecheesy

But today? It's no longer the case.

Many of these issues you call spiritual have been handled outside our shores differently without attaching anything spiritual to them. They've been studied, are being studied and steady progress is being made with clear and positive results.

So, you can ask him to handle it with prayers but please don't try to discourage him from seeing a mental specialist.

It's vital many of us understand what spiritual indicates. Ordinary dimensional differences, we don rush dey say spiritual.
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by correctguy101(m): 11:03am On May 24
bobestman:
With all he is saying here, it's not a mental problem but spiritual
It's both mental and spiritual.
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by bobestman(m): 1:53pm On May 24
jaephoenix:
The difference between us is i believe in science,which can be proven anytime,anyday,anywhere. For example,i can prove if i pour acid on paper,it will dissolve.
You can't prove your spirituality. If I ask anyone to prove odieshi is real,all I hear is go to one obscure village
I have known you here for a very long time and perfectly understand your beliefs and how you always want to proov your science and athiesm is best for humanity. All I can tell you is that you are in error. You believe in science cos of your evidence. I believe in spirituality and humanity cos of my own evidence and things I have seen

Lol you will never believe untill it hit you one day. They don't need to prove it but to hit you with watin no good one day. The same way the op don't believe but now he is facing a spiritual case. This his case might be a spell cast on him too. They play unti it hit you one day
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by bobestman(m): 1:58pm On May 24
jaephoenix:
This post reeks of pure ignorance.
You dont know what science is. If I ask you to prove your spirituality,I'll have another round of 'dem talk say'
If u can't prove anything, then this convo is useless
It's not about proving anything. Your mind has been conditioned that athiesm is best for you so no matter what I tell you it will never register on on your strong head 😂

Oga as you have evidence for your atheism so people have for believing in religion ot spirituality. The same way they can't convince you is same way you can't convince them. Your strong head is the problem here 😂 untill such thing happen to you one day....e go first blur for your eyes
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by bobestman(m): 2:04pm On May 24
correctguy101:
Even malaria was once the handiwork of the gods... And only the native doctors in town could help placate them for the right herbs to usecheesy

But today? It's no longer the case.

Many of these issues you call spiritual have been handled outside our shores differently without attaching anything spiritual to them. They've been studied, are being studied and steady progress is being made with clear and positive results.

So, you can ask him to handle it with prayers but please don't try to discourage him from seeing a mental specialist.

It's vital many of us understand what spiritual indicates. Ordinary dimensional differences, we don rush dey say spiritual.
You are right
Spirituality is ahead of them all and their origin
Our ancestors provided solution to all those problems in herbs but when science came they studied those herbs and use them to create drugs and one blind man dey argue that his science is the best. Science that's only a child to spirituality. Our spirituality is the mother of science
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by bobestman(m): 2:08pm On May 24
correctguy101:
It's both mental and spiritual.
It might that's why I said he should try handling it spiritually first cos if that fails it has become a mental issue
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by bobestman(m): 2:17pm On May 24
This one just happened today. Some kidnappers fell asleep where they went to kidnap. If you ask jaephoenix he will say they drank sleeping tablet on the scene that's why they slept off 😂😂 just cos he don't believe in juju

Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by Icedplane: 2:35pm On May 24
usebog:
No I don't see them, they do not repeat my thoughts, they don't know what I'm thinking and they don't put thoughts into my head. No they don't talk about others. Only me. They are asking themselves why is he not angry? Didn't he know we are talking about him? Why is he smiling? He is just fooling himself
People here cannot directly give you an answer or solution to your issue because you didn't just wake up to have all these. Its something that has been happening to you but you just happen to notice it. You have distinctively given an identity to the voices you hear but I say to you you are losing yourself. There's no spiritual phenomenon here, it's all from your brain base on occurances and your sense of judgements. Just know that it's from your brain and you need to quiet your brain before you loose it(become mad due to inability to coordinate yourself-brain). You trying to fight your own brain waves is no different from that mad man talking to only himself (of course he is talking to conversations in his brain). Relax, own it, do not ascribe an identity to it, do not overthink issues, be calm in all situations and watch how you judge others, yourself. Learn meditation to calm your mind, listen to pure vibration sounds on YouTube and sit quiet. Take control of your brain
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by jaephoenix(m): 2:37pm On May 24
bobestman:
I have known you here for a very long time and perfectly understand your beliefs and how you always want to proov your science and athiesm is best for humanity. All I can tell you is that you are in error. You believe in science cos of your evidence. I believe in spirituality and humanity cos of my own evidence and things I have seen

Lol you will never believe untill it hit you one day. They don't need to prove it but to hit you with watin no good one day. The same way the op don't believe but now he is facing a spiritual case. This his case might be a spell cast on him too. They play unti it hit you one day
Lol. There is only one evidence. There is no 'many types of evidence'. Evidence can be reproduced anywhere,anytime and by one. Can the evidence of your spirituality be reproduced? No
And how did you know the op is an atheist?
And why is it that anytime I ask Christians for evidence of anything,instead of preferring the evidence they tell me so so so would hit me? Are you guys such sadists? Not that I'm afraid,but its becoming funny
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by jaephoenix(m): 2:40pm On May 24
correctguy101:
Even malaria was once the handiwork of the gods... And only the native doctors in town could help placate them for the right herbs to usecheesy

But today? It's no longer the case.

Many of these issues you call spiritual have been handled outside our shores differently without attaching anything spiritual to them. They've been studied, are being studied and steady progress is being made with clear and positive results.

So, you can ask him to handle it with prayers but please don't try to discourage him from seeing a mental specialist.

It's vital many of us understand what spiritual indicates. Ordinary dimensional differences, we don rush dey say spiritual.
Malaria was never termed a handiwork of gods.
Also I have never called any issues spiritual,stop all these lies.
Mala
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by jaephoenix(m): 2:41pm On May 24
bobestman:
It's not about proving anything. Your mind has been conditioned that athiesm is best for you so no matter what I tell you it will never register on on your strong head 😂

Oga as you have evidence for your atheism so people have for believing in religion ot spirituality. The same way they can't convince you is same way you can't convince them. Your strong head is the problem here 😂 untill such thing happen to you one day....e go first blur for your eyes
I work with evidence, if you present evidence of spirituality,I would accept it.
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by jaephoenix(m): 2:43pm On May 24
bobestman:
You are right
Spirituality is ahead of them all and their origin
Our ancestors provided solution to all those problems in herbs but when science came they studied those herbs and use them to create drugs and one blind man dey argue that his science is the best. Science that's only a child to spirituality. Our spirituality is the mother of science
Your ancestors couldn't treat sickle cell,measles,polio etc which has been k!llng children til the white man brought scientific drugs. And what the actual fvckery do u mean 'spirituality is the mother of science'? The kind of rubbish I'm hearing today is fantastic
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by jaephoenix(m): 2:45pm On May 24
bobestman:
This one just happened today. Some kidnappers fell asleep where they went to kidnap. If you ask jaephoenix he will say they drank sleeping tablet on the scene that's why they slept off 😂😂 just cos he don't believe in juju
What is the source of this news? So u just believe any story bloggers post? No wonder. I'm not that gvllbl sir
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by correctguy101(m): 2:51pm On May 24
jaephoenix:
Malaria was never termed a handiwork of gods.
Also I have never called any issues spiritual,stop all these lies.
Mala
Calm down oga. I wasn't even quoting you. Wherever did you now see me saying you called any thing spiritual?

And I kid you not. There were times where the common sicknesses today were attributed to the spirits. Or you even forgot even twins were wrongfully labelled evil omen?
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by correctguy101(m): 2:57pm On May 24
bobestman:
It might that's why I said he should try handling it spiritually first cos if that fails it has become a mental issue
I feel it's best to explore every angle with immediate effect. Simultaneously if possible. As there are things that could go wrong if left for too long.

But first, he should be encouraged to face his fears. Nothing beats that.

What could those voices do more than talk? He's still the one in the driver's seat. He should stop saying nonsense like hating spirituality and believing it. His reality is manifesting differently already so where does he even have the mind to believe such nonsense?.

Who's to say, he's the one differentiating the voices where the voices could all be his very own thoughts.

Very twisted mind if you ask me. The baba could just be scaring himself.
Re: Budaatum Lordreed Please I Need Both Of Your Advice by correctguy101(m): 3:04pm On May 24
bobestman:
You are right
Spirituality is ahead of them all and their origin
Our ancestors provided solution to all those problems in herbs but when science came they studied those herbs and use them to create drugs and one blind man dey argue that his science is the best. Science that's only a child to spirituality. Our spirituality is the mother of science
Many died to preserve the authenticity and validity of modern ways of seeing things.

You wonder why the so called witches and spiritualists were hunter down and erased? It's all for this..

Those running things has decided our path of evolution already.

Science says it's investigating what already exists and implementing it to solve human problems even if some of these problems were brought about by humanity. But some people have started to have same beliefs and faith they accuse believers of faith of without knowing it.
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