₦airaland Forum

Let's revisit the issues Nigerians debated in newspapers and magazines this month around 50 years ago.

Today, let us travel back to 1978 for Alexander Igbineweka’s proposed solution to Lagos traffic jams.

What's your view about this? Could this be the solution to the Lagos state frequent traffick jam?

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Clearing of the road side sellers could make much difference with Lagos traffic

The traffic normally build up when cars are trying to enter Express lane or big lane

Olofofo247ng:
Let's revisit the issues Nigerians debated in newspapers and magazines this month around 50 years ago.

Today, let us travel back to 1978 for Alexander Igbineweka’s proposed solution to Lagos traffic jams.

What's your view about this? Could this be the solution to the Lagos state frequent traffick jam?

Source:

does a man drive 2 cars at the same time? this reasoning is flawed

Over 10 million people live in Lagos, pls don’t forget that!

This sounds quite risible to me. Would someone who has 2 or more cars move them all to the road at once? If he leaves the rest in his home, how do those contribute to traffic jams?

helinues:
Clearing of the road side sellers could make much difference with Lagos traffic

The traffic normally build up when cars are trying to enter Express lane or big lane

This is a very underrated comment. They know but guess who votes for them. Also, a lot of us will scream victimization.

redcliff:
does a man drive 2 cars at the same time? this reasoning is flawed

Those yeyebrities even the upcoming, they normally have on average of 3 cars convoy

Unseriousness at it's peak

The government should first provide and maintain alternative and affordable means of transport and see traffic reduce.

A lot of people don't mind use ship or boat or train to work, but the availability of them is usually a problem.

The few that are available, the queues are something else in the mornings and evenings, and that's why we need much more.

This was baba jakande's vision before Tinubu came and dabaru everything. With his quack innovation. How can someone who claimed to have schooled and lived in the US, even drove taxi for survival ended up this way? Lagos is not as busy as London and New York city. They prefer embezzling money with their quack traffick solution. I had to personally write to a commissioner in Lagos to introduce CCTV and traffic lights to the mainland before they finally acted and this is what happens when a non-indigene who is only interested in milking your state holds sway. All these will be addressed by uncle Doherty, may God protect him. Late Funsho Williams wanted to come up with the railway model in his administration after which his life was cut short. May his killers never find peace and may they continue to face disgrace in the eyes of the world, amen!

When we say its time to take our state back, someone was telling me that we yorubas are the same and can govern any state i just ignored him. He should go to Ondo or oyo state and contest for the post of ordinary ward councillor and see how far. We don take too much shiit and we're ending this asap. I've been to London and new York several times by the grace of God. You'd never know the cities were so populated with the functional rail system in place, including underground train channels.
Their BRT buses here are breaking down already with no solution in sight. I went to abule egba yesterday. On getting to Ile epo market, I was able to count up to 3 buses already stranded on the BRT lane. With a functional rail system in place, you'd have no cause to shrink our already overwhelmed roads for BRT. We have the money to make this happen but they keep stealing it, using it to stage protests and sponsor politics in other states. All these nonsense will soon stop.

Olofofo247ng:
Let's revisit the issues Nigerians debated in newspapers and magazines this month around 50 years ago.

Today, let us travel back to 1978 for Alexander Igbineweka’s proposed solution to Lagos traffic jams.

What's your view about this? Could this be the solution to the Lagos state frequent traffick jam?

Source:

More Urban Mass Transit means of transportation should be deployed.

It's easy.
1. All the "owo mi da" crew should be cleared
2. Public transporters should obey traffic laws and stop picking up or dropping passengers on the middle of the road
3. Unnecessary check points in the state should be stopped.
With this three points especially that No 1, traffic will move smoothly.

Harnny:
This is a very underrated comment. They know but guess who votes for them. Also, a lot of us will scream victimization.

That's one of the reasons I can never go into politics because doing the right thing, you are automatically stepping on people's toes. You can't extend a road without demolition, how many of the house owners have the right documents.

How would you resolve those with no proper documents, compensate them or not

redcliff:
does a man drive 2 cars at the same time? this reasoning is flawed

When are you going to run for President ? You get 7 eyes and all of them are bringing light. Bahddo.

Olofofo247ng:
Let's revisit the issues Nigerians debated in newspapers and magazines this month around 50 years ago.

Today, let us travel back to 1978 for Alexander Igbineweka’s proposed solution to Lagos traffic jams.

What's your view about this? Could this be the solution to the Lagos state frequent traffick jam?

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The builder of Lagos forgot to solve this 1978 issue.

Clear the road side sellers, introduce metro rail and buses across the State. Governments should regulate multiple car ownership through strict taxation. Limit and regulate the usage of convoy on our roads. The city needs more link roads than ever before. And create awareness for people to normalize water transportation with tight regulations

How many cars can people drive at the same time?

The solution is more metro buses, good railway systems that can connect several places and states together.

Also the reason most people choose to drive is because of safety and convenience. If you get money you no go like jam-pack yourself or your children inside danfo buses or brt inside hot Lagos weather.

Eriokanmi:
This was baba jakande's vision before Tinubu came and dabaru everything

Tinubu was a nobody in 1983, when Jakande was outsted.
Jakande's metro plan was jettisoned by Buhari, because at the time bubu took over in 1984, oil prices had crashed, and buhari did not want to borrow the money needed to do the project, which would have been burdensome.
Ironically, the current metro project was envisoned by TInubu, and continued and expanded by Fashola and his successors.

Not to defend any politican, btw. FWIW, I think Buhari should have just taken the loan....though it would have meant very high fares for a while to raise money to pay back

So reducing number of cars an individual can own will reduce traffic congestion?

How will an individual who owns more than one car be able to drive both at the same time?

Please make it make sense.

One man one car bawoo..?

Just create enough secured paid parking spaces for people to pay and park their cars because most of the traffic issues are caused by illegal parking which can be avoided.
Automated parking lots with secured 24/7 CCTV monitoring systems. Especially on the island.

Imagine just 30% of people in Lagos owning one car sef. hahaha

A man who has more than one car can only drive one at a time.

Olofofo247ng:
Let's revisit the issues Nigerians debated in newspapers and magazines this month around 50 years ago.

Today, let us travel back to 1978 for Alexander Igbineweka’s proposed solution to Lagos traffic jams.

What's your view about this? Could this be the solution to the Lagos state frequent traffick jam?

Source:

If this is the solution to traffic jam then one man eat only 3 times should be the solution to food scarcity. What a stupid suggestion!!

From this post alone u can tell this individual is pained and jealous of those that own multiple vehicle. Tell me how can someone who owns two cars drive them all at once. This shouldn’t be approached from a place of resentment toward people who own multiple cars.
A more practical approach would be removing rickety vehicles from the roads, enforcing compulsory road tax and insurance, improving public transportation, reducing dependence on danfo buses, creating better road networks and flyovers, and building proper parking structures for vehicles of different kinds

The plan is good, and is being implemented, but the thing is, it is taking a long time because the amount of money needed for a good enough metro system for Lagos would cost more than our national budget...that is bringing in railways, and a good enough bus service with dobule decker busses and trains self.

Infact, that;s the problem why we don't have efficent transport systems in most nigerian cities. El rufai tried it in Abuja, but it has largely degraded because it cost too much money to maintain

Of course if Lagosians all pay a council tax staring at 400000 naira a month (but I can hear people calling me APC supporter, and oppressor..lol. Meanwhile in saner climes...)..and this is why a good enough transport system would mean hefty borrowing (which would also lead to complaints of borrowing too much and debt)

Then there is the issue of lots of small scale bus and taxi operators being thrown out of their jobs if Lagos gets a good enough system

redcliff:
does a man drive 2 cars at the same time? this reasoning is flawed

Honestly the thinking no clear at all. He's obviously coming from a place of lack and envy

Makes no sense and will not work.

I’ll simply register one car go wife and each for children.

1. Best introduce road tax per vehicle
2. Improve current rail transport
3. Encourage companies to do work from home.
4. Encourage companies Gary opening times and. Living times. We all do not need to resume by 8 and close by 5. Why not 7-3, 8-4, 9-6, 10-7 even 11-8.
So we all don’t go on the road at same time.
5. Encourage staff buses for companies.
6. Provide infrastructure so companies can survive anywhere. Agege, Ikorodu, Isolo, Agbado, Okokomaiko. Big companies don’t all have to be ion the Island.

We have a long way to go with the way we reason in Nigeria. We don’t think outside the box.

Why do you need to force people to only have one car? Sorry, that sounds stupid, autocratic and can be easily bypassed.


Even though I believe that won’t solve the traffic issue, the same thing can be achieved by charging hefty monthly road tax on vehicles, let’s see if people won’t start rethinking their choices of having multiple cars for no reason.

redcliff:
does a man drive 2 cars at the same time? this reasoning is flawed

It's obvious you can't think, one man one car means no need for his wife and kids taking two more cars, one car is OK for the family.
That's what it means.

Olofofo247ng:
Let's revisit the issues Nigerians debated in newspapers and magazines this month around 50 years ago.

Today, let us travel back to 1978 for Alexander Igbineweka’s proposed solution to Lagos traffic jams.

What's your view about this? Could this be the solution to the Lagos state frequent traffick jam?

Source:

you dont need to go this far in history

BRT is a recent example

How is it that BRT that once thrived during ambode and fashola administration is in comatose today

There were many vehicles on the road and many people were happy using BRT due to its efficient transport service until Tinubu handed it over to his own son under Sanwo olu suddenly everything collapsed, dead buses everywhere and mammoth queues at busstop

helinues:
Those yeyebrities even the upcoming, they normally have on average of 3 cars convoy

convoy is convoy. if anybody wants to ride a convoy, they can rent and have the convoy...

You cannot restrict how many cars a man can own, we are not in a communist country..Even China does not do that.

The biggest cause of traffic are the stubborn yellow public buses- Danfos, Koropes and Kekes.

The drivers of these rickety antiquated vehicles, have a highfalutin sense of importance. They believe they are untouchables, they beat traffic lights, park in the middle of the road to pick passengers and load goods, causing obstruction. They frequently bully private cars on the road..

You will be stuck in traffic for hours in Oshodi, when you get the suspected point of vehicular impasse, you find them repairing a broken down antique they call Danfo in the middle of the road, while LASTMA and policemen stand akimbo or look the other way. Every other cars spend hours on that traffic burning scare and costly fuel, because the owner of the deadbeat danfo or Korope, will not do simple maintainance. He will rather use the money to drink Baba pari, play Baba ijebu and visit cheap prostitutes..


Do that as a private vehicle owner and have your vehicle break down at Ojota, the police and LASTMA will suddenly become alive to their responsibility and towing vehicle appears from nowhere. Your fine is N200,000, you can begin to negotiate.

Every bus stop, every major intersection and junction, is a public loading park for these public buses..

When you probe the reason why these public buses are not frequently penalized by government, you find that their NURTW leaders like MC Oluomo are close to government and enjoy their patronage (they help government rig elections, snatch ballot boxes, and intimidate voters on election days).

When Nigeria starts implementing total electronic voting and counting, the agberoes will become irrelevant.

Till then, Lagos government should go and pick its clothes where it took its bath.