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Expanse2020:
You brought the Hadiths which speak against what you are saying...
Is this how your brain low reach 🗿🗿🗿

Expanse2020:
I can see ....
Your reason long oo

SIRTeee15:
Egbami !!!!

If God didn't tell Muhammed to tell Muslims to bow before a stone. Why then do Muslims BOW before the black stone.

For a Muslim to worship Allah, he must face the black stone and bow before it. That is the only way he can worship Allah.

Yet doffman is TELLING ME ALLAH NEVER TOLD MUHAMMED TO TELL MUSLIMS TO BOW BEFORE A BLACK STONE.

SO WHERE DID MUSLIMS LEARN IT FROM?
WHO TOLD MUSLIMS TO BOW BEFORE THE BLACK STONE.
WHO CORRUPTED THE MESSAGE OF MUHAMMED BY TELLING MUSLIMS TO BOW BEFORE A BLACK STONE WHEN THAT INSTRUCTION NEVER CAME FROM MUHAMMED- according to doffman


Sahih al-Bukhari, Book of Prayer (Kitab al-Salat)
Another narration:
“The Prophet used to pray facing Bayt al-Maqdis (Jerusalem), then Allah commanded him to turn toward the Kaaba.”

The KABBA HAS THE BLACK STONE IN IT.

WHO TOLD MUSLIMS TO PRAY BOWING TO THE BLACK STONE IF ALLAH NEVER TOLD MUHAMMED TO DO SO.

AntiisIam:
Ahahahaha

Back to your ahamo in Libya

Awon ahamo officers wan send your back to your room

Antiislaam:
We dey give dis one authentic hadith, dis one dey bring fake something to cover his shame

Antiislaam:
Depe, shey this is the answer to the question he asked you?

Expanse2020:
Are you referring to Kaaba as a black stone
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Chaiii ignorant is bad oo

AntiisIam:
If not that you dey ahamo in Libya nii, I want direct you to goan meet sultan of Sokoto, I think he is a learned person. He will tell you if WIFES exist in your dictionary made in Saudi Arabia

Depe, no be that said I dey go jare. I promised to give you 10qsome of your anobi Sule in hadith.. I don get am, shey make I send it to you abi bawo

doffman:
You better come back home , Libya boy 🤣

dofman:
Libya boy is talking .

dofman:
E shock him well that I exposed him ahaaaa.

You will repeat tire seh ahaaaa.

How far ? 🤣

dofman:
Your boss has been tutored as usual , go call new senior person from your WhatsApp group . 🤣🤣

I have finished him , he can’t defend his claim . Shiooor .

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AntiisIam:
Shey you no go call your chief imam in Nigeria to help you out like dis now that dey don give you access to your phone today

AntiisIam:
Sule, shey dis one na white stone

AntiisIam:
They don give your today's break to access your phone and called your people in 9ja

dofman:
I just Dey enjoy how you are disgracing yourself in the public forum .

So up to this moment , you can't provide anywhere to claim your assertion that Muslim were instructed to worship stone 🤣

dofman:
So you are on assumptions right ? Lobatan .


Gbam ! , now , you have provided your own answer that Muslims do not worship stone or bow to stone , rather , they face the direction of Jerusalem who later changed to meccah . That means you have agreed to my stand nah . You have learnt 🤣

dofman:
The Prophet used to pray facing Bayt al-Maqdis (Jerusalem), then Allah commanded him to turn toward the Kaaba

What a nice Hadith 👍, Guy clap for yourself, you have even answered yourself nah and support my first reply .. lobatan .

dofman:
Facing Jerusalem or meccah should not be your problem nah as it is not idolatry .

Oya open your bible ;

Point 1:

1 Kings 8:29-30
New International Version

29 May your eyes be open toward this temple night and day, this place of which you said, ‘My Name shall be there,’ so that you will hear the prayer your servant prays toward this place.

30 Hear the supplication of your servant and of your people Israel when they pray toward this place. Hear from heaven, your dwelling place, and when you hear, forgive.


Point 2 ;

Even your Daniel face Jerusalem for prayer 🤣

Oya read :

Daniel 6:10, which states that Daniel prayed with his windows open toward Jerusalem.


How far now guy ? 🤣

Are those facing Jerusalem which is also a building doing bad thing ?

Yes or no ?


For black stone , let me educate you again once on this new nairaland page ; I repeat , I will never repeat myself ; do you understand ; good .

The Black Stone (Al-Hajar Al-Aswad) is a sacred Islamic relic embedded in the eastern corner of the Kaaba in Mecca, Saudi Arabia. It marks the starting and ending point for pilgrims circling the Kaaba during the Hajj and Umrah pilgrimages

dofman:
No any verse of Quran or Hadith that say Muslim should worship it ,

dofman:
Abis ibn Rabi’ah reported: Umar ibn al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, came to the black stone and he kissed it. Umar said, “Verily, I know you are only a stone with no power to harm or benefit me. Were it not that I saw the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, kiss you, I would not have kissed you.”

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 1597, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1270


That Hadith confirmed to everyone that stone is powerless and no one worship it .

dofman:
If you think otherwise, bring your proof and show us where Allah instructed Muslim to be worshipping stone if you fit 🤣



He that alleges , must prove . And this is what is you are running away from .


If Muslim are worshipping stone why can’t you see stone in every mosque 🕌 ; like you guys carrying cross in every church .

dofman:
You know nothing . Go sit down .

Watch here :

https://youtube.com/shorts/7UcLNv86POc?is=J5xKw_TwBX6zymCV


https://youtube.com/shorts/Uek2xe29j3s?is=czmmb404ZnnqLDUO

Wait for my next post reasons why we classify you as an enemy of God 🤣

Evidence full everywhere. This is not assumption like you in your agbako religion propaganda .

dofman:
SIRTeee15

Let me now teach you how to defend a point .


You are a pagan , in fact you are an original one ; confirmed 👍

How ?

Let’s go …..

I once asked you who is your God , you refused and afraid to answer me directly , I further drilled you further and you later indirectly confess you worship Jesus ( see the attached screenshot of your writeup )


Now let check your bible first before Quran :



Point 1

Matthew 4:10: "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only'"

As you can see , you deserved to be banished as you refused to serve and worship God and instead, you chose to serve Jesus instead of God , the creator of jesus , Chai

Oya read further :

Luke 4:8: Jesus replied, "Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only" (or "serve Him only"wink

But you refuse to worship God , see your life ahaaa 🤣

Also read o :

Deuteronomy 10:20: "Fear the LORD your God, serve him only and hold fast to him..."


You refuse to hold to God but chose other thing under the guidance of Satan .

You have violated what Jesus and other prophets preached ; I have been vindicated about my claimed about you .

You are direct opposite of Jesus and this is what we have been telling you .


You are finished ✔️



Now let me seal you off with the best book , Quran :


Surah Al-Isra 17:23: "Your Lord has decreed that you worship none but Him.

"Surah Al-Anbiya 21:25: "And We sent not before you any messenger except that We revealed to him that, 'There is no deity except Me, so worship Me.

'"Surah Al-A'raf 7:59: "Worship Allah; you have no deity other than Him."


Even Jesus (pbuh) will deny you in the judgement day :



Quran 5: 116-117


And ˹on Judgment Day˺ Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?” He will answer, “Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say? If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it. You know what is ˹hidden˺ within me, but I do not know what is within You. Indeed, You ˹alone˺ are the Knower of all unseen.


[b]I never told them anything except what You ordered me to say: “Worship Allah—my Lord and your Lord!” [/b]And I was witness over them as long as I remained among them. But when You took me,1 You were the Witness over them—and You are a Witness over all things.



So glaring that you are an enemy of God and opposite of Jesus and all prophets .

If you kpai in this your status and you do not repent asap hell 🔥 straight for you o .

dofman:
Kininwi ahaaaa.

Ijaya fun gbogbo awon Chirisitieni agbako 🤣😂😂😂

My presence will always torment u


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dofman:
You have learnt already nah .

Na trolling remain for you guys .


No be you here 🤣🤣

dofman:
Ahaaaa even your pastor can never gbegesi . Shioor .


Try it nah . 🤣🤣

AntiisIam:
Depe, who will now help you like this?

self don enter koye yin mo mode

dofman:
Help your senior nah . He don cast as usual 🤣

SIRTeee15:
Another red herring, stick to the question. Why do u bow to a stone. God said do not bow to a stone.


Stop lying. The hadith says facing the KABBA, not mecca. Iropoju.
Stop being embarrassed by your hadith, it's becoming irritating.


So can I pray to Allah facing the kabba without bowing to it.
Can I pray facing the kabba but choose not to bow before it


According to Islamic belief, Would Abraham have built the kabba in its present spot without the presence of the black stone.


Another red herring. Let me tell u what u don't know. When God told Moses to tell the Israelites not to copy the cannanites buy bowing to stone. The cannanites actually don't worship the stone. They worship Asherah, the cannanite goddess. But they worship this goddess by bowing to sacred stones.
That is why God told Moses that Israelites should not copy their practice by bowing to a stone when worshipping HIM.

That's THE ISSUE. MUSLIMS BOW TO A STONE WHEN WORSHIPPING ALLAH. SOMETHING HE TOLD MOSES THE PEOPLE SHOULD NEVER DO.


STONE IS POWERLESS YET IT HAS THE POWER TO FORGIVE SIN. HOW CAN A POWERLESS STONE FORGIVE SIN. U THINK ITS A JOKE PEOPLE DIE TO KISS THE STONE DURING PILGRIMAGE.

ITS LIKE U THINK WE DONT HAVE ACCESS TO YOUR HADITHS.

Narrated by Ibn ‘Umar:
“I heard the Messenger of Allah say:
‘Touching the Black Stone and the Yemeni Corner removes sins completely.’”


U BOW TO ONLY THE BLACK STONE IN THE KABBA NOT MULTIPLE STONES. THAT'S WHY U FAVE THE DIRECTION OF KABBA WHEN U PRAY.



NOW LETS PUT THIS TO REST. SINCE U ARGUE THE RELEVANCE OF FACING MECCA IS THE KABBA AND NOT THE STONE.

doffman, IF THE KABBA IS DISMANTLED IN MECCA AND REASSEMBLED IN MEDINA. BUT THE BLACK STONE REMAINED IN MECCA.

WHICH DIRECTION WOULD U NOW FACE WHEN PRAYING.
MEDINA OR MECCA.

SIRTeee15:
Answer my question stop deflecting

YOUR ARGUMENT IS THAT MUSLIMS BOW TO THE KABBA AND NOT THE BLACK STONE.
OK IF THE KABBA IS DISMANTLED AND RELOCATED TO MEDINA BUT THE BLACK STONE REMAIN INTACT IN MECCA.
WHERE WILL U BOW TO WHEN PRAYING, MECCA OR MEDINA?

2. WHY DID U LIE THAT THE BLACK STONE IS POWERLESS WHEN YOUR HADITH STATES IT HAS THE POWER TO FORGIVE SIN. HOW CAN A POWERLESS STONE FORGIVE SIN.
WHY DO MUSLIMS TRAMPLED ON THEMSELVES JUST TO KISS THE STONE DURING PILGRIMAGE IF IT HAS NO SIGNIFICANCE

How can a normal human being with a rational mind bow to a house that has a stone inside when God said don't bow to a stone. In his own consolation, he thinks he's praying facing the house but not the stone inside the house.
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Islvm is finished

SIRTeee15:
Again @ doffman

Your argument is based on Allah told Muhammed to face the kabba not the black stone.

What is inside the kabba? Where is the black stone situated?

So God told Muhammed to bow to the kabba that has the black stone, a sacred stone that God told Moses nobody should bow before it.

So Allah told Muhammed to bow before a building that house a sacred stone, yet same God told Moses no one should bow to a sacred stone.

doffman thinks because the kabba covers the black stone, then when they pray bowing before the kabba, they are not bowing to what is inside the kabba.

The Muslim logic is on another ridiculous level.
In case u don't know, this is nothing but covert paganism.

GOD WILL NEVER TELL PEOPLE TO BOW BEFORE A HOUSE THAT HOLDS A SACRED STONE IF HE ALREADY COMMANDED THAT NOBODY SHOULD BOW BEFORE A STONE.
NEVER!! HE'S NOT A AUTHOR OF CONFUSION.

AntiisIam:
Sule, you sha wan take surat Anti-islam run away for the question dey ask you. You no get shame aswear

SIRTeee15:
Answer my question stop deflecting

YOUR ARGUMENT IS THAT MUSLIMS BOW TO THE KABBA AND NOT THE BLACK STONE.
OK IF THE KABBA IS DISMANTLED AND RELOCATED TO MEDINA BUT THE BLACK STONE REMAIN INTACT IN MECCA.
WHERE WILL U BOW TO WHEN PRAYING, MECCA OR MEDINA?

2. WHY DID U LIE THAT THE BLACK STONE IS POWERLESS WHEN YOUR [b]HADITH STATES IT HAS THE POWER TO FORGIVE SIN. HOW CAN A POWERLESS STONE FORGIVE SIN.
WHY DO MUSLIMS TRAMPLED ON THEMSELVES JUST TO KISS THE STONE DURING PILGRIMAGE IF IT HAS NO SIGNIFICANCE[/b]

How can a normal human being with a rational mind bow to a house that has a stone inside when God said don't bow to a stone. In his own consolation, he thinks he's praying facing the house but not the stone inside the house.
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Islvm is finished

AntiisIam:
Ask any of your imam in Libya that wetin I talk

MaxInDHouse:
Why did God arrange for His message to be written?