₦airaland Forum

DonFreshmoney:
Makinde has a point there. Tinubu is just playing to the gallery with the state police. Watch him use state police to campaign for 2027 then abandon it if he wins. The question is why didnt Lagos join their sister states to create Amotekun?

Why should Lagos join Amotekun again when it had already established ' Lagos Neighbourhood Safety Corps'?.

ManknowThyself:
Not state police with pump action short guns but AK47!!!!!!!!

Bandits and kidnapping will be defeated proactively.


Each indigenous community with 100 operatives armed with AK47 it will be difficult to carry out criminal activities in those town and villages.

In all you do never forget God our creator

Yarimo and hellanus will not like this your suggestion oo

Do you want the government to kpai their brothers?

Emmy000seun:
Right from time Lagos is not lacking behind in security.. infact Lagos has two to three security outfit.. neighborhood, RRS, police, RRS is different from police...If you get used to Lagos you will realize RRS police operate differently unlike the regular police..very polite, decent and always clean...not like the regular police....their office is at Alausa

I hate it when you guys play politics with security. It's people's lives you're playing with for God's sake.

RRS is just another sub-department under the Police force. It's still controlled by the FG not the state government. The state government only funds part of it as a gesture of goodwill.

LNSC is not even a vigilante, they ride bicycle and their weapons are sticks!!

Tinubu didn't even suggest Amotekun it was Akeredolu.

Hell would be incomplete without you APC guys.

Image123:
Makinde is an hypocrite here. It's still Tinubu that made the suggestion that he's bragging about.

https://www.thecable.ng/breaking-tinubu-finally-breaks-silence-on-amotekun/

So what's stopping Tinubu? The national Assembly is under him he can get it done in a week

Nigerian politics is about deceiving whoever you want to deceive and get what you want and ignore the rest. No sincerity

I didn't want to have a say in this argument before. But let me chip in small thing.
Both people arguing for Tinubu and people arguing for Makinde to me are all right in their respective argument.
But what I can't take is the people equating Lagos Neighborhood watch to Amotekun. That's comedy at it highest peak.
Neighbourhood watch that looks like boyscout 😁😁😁😁.
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Those for Tinubu would have used RRS as a strong stand for him. But having said that, if Tinubu really have the mind and was among the idea of creating the Amotekun, why didn't he suggest his RRS idea or the Neighborhood watch of Lagos State.
I leave it to you guys

dre11:
https://guardian.ng/news/stop-deceiving-us-on-state-police-gov-makinde-tells-fg/

I don't understand. Does it mean if state police is not created the criminal tormenting our people and killing them will just be left to continue their criminal activities ? . Are we saying there is nothing else that could be done to stop them in the interim while we work on the political state police ?

Sonofgod1990:
Yarimo and hellanus will not like this your suggestion oo

Do you want the government to kpai their brothers?

Government get the right to kpai anybody when won go kidnap 2years old kids o with all alacrity and who won cry make them give am drum to fill with tears.

The thing they pain me cos if na so them kidnap me as a kid, i for nor be an electrical electronics engineer today.

[quote author=Image123 post=139551050]Makinde is an hypocrite here. It's still Tinubu that made the suggestion that he's bragging about.

https://www.thecable.ng/breaking-tinubu-finally-breaks-silence-on-amotekun/[/quotpe]
U Suggest and refused to implement how is that an achievement?

Kukutente23:
What of the one in Borno
Or is Borno no longer part of Nigeria?
How many kidnappings of schoolchildren have happened in opposition states?
These zombs sef

borno is the epicenter of bokoharam, this has been on before president tinubu came to power and with the good efforts of president tinubu, borno state is now safe than ever before. Zombie is someone that can't think rationally on his own, he prefers listening and accepting the rumors on the street and beer parlour gists . I need not tell you that this is exactly what you have been doing.

FX:
What is RSS? RSS is still Federal police or you think it's a different police. It's a just a squad just like Sars or tactical squd

Do your research on Lagos RRS. I don't have time for idiocy.

AMINDA:
Lol. Will it be a more major political crisis than the current state of insecurity in the country? There is no zoning arrangement between the North and the South. Zoning is purely a matter within political parties, notably the PDP. Ojukwu contested the 2007 presidential elections after 8 years of Obasanjo and Northerners did not ask him to step down. Buhari contested 4 consecutive presidential elections before winning and no one cried about zoning. Don't buy into the propaganda of zoning. Only Northern APC members will cry about zoning in 2031 if Tinubu wins and fails to concede power to the North. The signs are already there. Northerners always speak with their votes, not noise.

I know tinibu is fascinated and intoxicated with power but I don't think he has the liver to try such everyone already knows how the north is always restless when they are not in power not talk of when they are clearly and openly cheated of their turn to be president.

Mrexcell:
I know tinibu is fascinated and intoxicated with power but I don't think he has the liver to try such everyone already knows how the north is always restless when they are not in power not talk of when they are clearly and openly cheated of their turn to be president.

Oga, there is no turn. The North will not cry about it and will always respond with their votes. They made Tinubu president with 5.6m votes and it was out of freewill, not coercion. The North is never totally out of power because they never put all their political eggs in one basket. Kashim Shettima is currently V.P.

Kukutente23:
The problem with you guys is how you just tell barefaced lies that even your so-called evidence negates
Even your screenshot shows that it was Operation Sweep that was started by Marwa to tackle the incessant armed robbery challenge in Lagos that metamorphosed into RRS. When have any of you sycophants ever given Marwa credit for operation sweep that became RRS? All you'll be screaming is RRS as if it emerged out of bourdillon

Rubbish. Did operation sweep become the much better RRS Lagos gained on it's own and miraculously?

You guys are simply inferior and dishonorable men with how you cannot give credit to whom it is due i.e Tinubu.

His achievements with Lagos RRS is well-documented.

[quote author=missionmex post=139552198][/quote]You guys didn't read the OP or watch the video. Makinde was boasting that "We know how we established Amotkeun. The Speaker of the Oyo State House of Assembly is here. We passed a common law in the whole of the Southwest. The whole Houses of Assembly in all states in the Southwest passed the law, and that led to the creation of Amotekun."
This very idea on how to get Amotekun working was given by Tinubu. It was Tinubu that advised them not to make it regional in a sense that FG would oppose it. He advised them to decentralize it and work with both state and federal legislature.

9jawazobia:
Stop saying what you don't know the whole idea of Amotekun was from Akeredolu and Seyi Makinde precisely Akeredolu championed it, they went to Tinubu for advice in 2020 is Akeredolu not a member of APC they launched it Ibadan then , Buhari opposed the idea then so Tinubu is not the brain behind Amotekun he only advice them when to him as an elder state man ..

i never said that Tinubu is the brain behind Amotekun. You guys didn't read the OP or watch the video. Makinde was boasting that "We know how we established Amotkeun. The Speaker of the Oyo State House of Assembly is here. We passed a common law in the whole of the Southwest. The whole Houses of Assembly in all states in the Southwest passed the law, and that led to the creation of Amotekun."
This very idea on how to get Amotekun working was given by Tinubu. It was Tinubu that advised them not to make it regional in a sense that FG would oppose it. He advised them to decentralize it and work with both state and federal legislature.

happney65:
You APC data boys and girls will not seize to amaze me. Lagos doesn't need Amotekun but was a signatory to the creation of it? Maybe you don't know Sanwo Olu was in Ibadan with other SW Govornors times without number during the creation of Amotekun. Yet Lagos doesn't need it. If they don't why did they join?

Why did they sign to it's creation? Why? Comparing Amotekun to Lagos neigbourd watch is funny. Those ones that are like traffic police? Lmao.

The truth of the matter is this, I don't know of any other state,But Oyo Amotekun is the most funded and they are doing well. We already have a sort of mini state police and if tinubu is sure of himself and wants to nip terrorism in the bud,he should grant state Police and stop playing politics with human lives.

An Oyo that shares border with Benin Republic needs more security than having just 74 police station statewide. We do not want terrorists in our region. If he is truly not an omo ale,he should do the right thing and save his region and stop crying obi everyone and then

Stale, bring out your facts as others have brought theirs.

AMINDA:
Have you also said that Tinubu should do his job and secure the country? Why push Tinubu's responsibilities to Seyi Makinde? Does Seyi Makinde control the security apparatus? Or you expect him to secure his state against AK 47 wielding terrorists using amotekun and forest guards with dane guns? Yesterday it was Kwara, today it's Oyo. Continue to blame the governors.

Lolz at AK 47 wielding terrorists. But what we usually see is cutlass. Criminals don't usually operate in the open or light. Not because they don't have weapons but an element of fear. No one has stopped Makinde from finding and chasing away the criminals. Only himself, sitting behind microphones. If there were guards, we'd not be guessing location. What's the security money usef for?

mrvitalis:
So what's stopping Tinubu? The national Assembly is under him he can get it done in a week

Lolz, even the terrorists are under him in your world. Make i no stress myself.

This wan collect money go keep for election.

manmade:
borno is the epicenter of bokoharam, this has been on before president tinubu came to power and with the good efforts of president tinubu, borno state is now safe than ever before. Zombie is someone that can't think rationally on his own, he prefers listening and accepting the rumors on the street and beer parlour gists . I need not tell you that this is exactly what you have been doing.

So kidnapping of schoolkids in Borno is allowed because it's the epicentre of Boko haram. Do you know that Borno has been ruled by APC since 1999 and boko haram started from there under PDP FG. So by your logic now, we can say boko haram was started by APC right? Same Borno that has witnessed deaths of military generals under Tinubu is safer than before? That's how zone Bs usually shoot themselves in the foot
But more importantly, what about Niger and Kwara that have also witnessed several abduction of schoolkids and church worshippers? Are they also epicentre of boko haram or what's your new excuse now

The APC are playing politics with everything, including this state police of a thing. once anything involve the safety of Nigerians, they will first consider their political objectives first, before looking at pressing issues, so this is the same situation we found ourselves,in this state police issue.

seunowa:
Stale, bring out your facts as others have brought theirs.

Which one have I written up there that is lies? That Sanwo Olu was in Ibadan times without number for the creation of Amotekun

That Sanwo Olu even sent a bill to the house for it's creation. The house passed it into law sent it back to Sanwo Olu to sign and he didn't sign till date.

https://guardian.ng/issue/operation-amotekun-yet-to-formally-take-off-in-lagos-one-year-after/

If they don't want Amotekun,why did he join it's creation. If they don't want Amotekun,why did he send it to the house of assembly for creation and the house passed into law while waiting for the Govornor to sign it into law which he didn't do up till date because his Godfather doesn't want it because he doesn't want to offend his northern masters and prefers to play politics with the lives of his people

Isn't it?

WizardOfNG:
Rubbish. Did operation sweep become the much better RRS Lagos gained on it's own and miraculously?

You guys are simply inferior and dishonorable men with how you cannot give credit to whom it is due i.e Tinubu.

His achievements with Lagos RRS is well-documented.

There's no nonsense one will not hear from these Tinubu sycophants
What's always clear is that you were not even in Lagos when Operation Sweep held sway. Before it was formed, ask Lagosians what they were going through with armed robbers
The fact is RRS was not "created" as clowns usually ignorantly parrot by Tinubu
It already existed as Operation Sweep and was simply renamed. That so many ignorant clowns don't know this is because they have chosen to be brainwashed.
What achievement did RRS have that Operation Sweep was not better at?
Go and get properly informed beyond propaganda

Image123:
Lolz, even the terrorists are under him in your world. Make i no stress myself.

Most of them are a disgrace because they are always ready to lie blatantly or deny factual truth in hope their political candidate (mainly Atiku or Obi) profit electorally.

chidiokay:
How many times you wan make he explain, the victims were compensated and the 30bn is said to be in a bank account they provided the number

When did Makinde said all the things you're saying?

Because as at the last time, the victims were still lamenting

DonFreshmoney:
Makinde has a point there. Tinubu is just playing to the gallery with the state police. Watch him use state police to campaign for 2027 then abandon it if he wins. The question is why didnt Lagos join their sister states to create Amotekun?

Because Jihadists never touch them.

Kukutente23:
What achievement did RRS have that Operation Sweep was not better at?
Go and get properly informed beyond propaganda

Lol. The bolded says it all about your character. Well, I don't expect you to have the capacity for admitting the truth. Keep trying to con the gullible.

Those who defer to facts and proven reality will be laughing at you because they see your desperation to lie simply to deny Tinubu credit.

Don't come here attempting to launder the image of operation sweep merely because you cannot rise above bigotry to give "Yoruba President" credit ever.

Operation sweep had it's initial period of success but was virtually redundant and fading when Tinubu replaced it with the far better and far more effective RRS. 100% fact the whole world concedes bar you lot.

The security outfit had originally been formed in 1996 under the military administration of Colonel Mohammed Buba Marwa to combat rising crime in the metropolis. Following periods of tension and controversies involving the military squad in late 1998, the force was gradually withdrawn from public street patrols, before being officially dismantled and reformed into the police-led RRS upon Nigeria's return to democratic rule.

Sustainable Funding and Logistics: The RRS enjoys consistent backing from the Lagos State Security Trust Fund (LSSTF), ensuring its officers are equipped with dedicated patrol vehicles, communications gadgets, and protective gear. This consistent funding resolved the equipment decay that ultimately crippled Operation Sweep.

Image123:
i never said that Tinubu is the brain behind Amotekun. You guys didn't read the OP or watch the video. Makinde was boasting that "We know how we established Amotkeun. The Speaker of the Oyo State House of Assembly is here. We passed a common law in the whole of the Southwest. The whole Houses of Assembly in all states in the Southwest passed the law, and that led to the creation of Amotekun."
This very idea on how to get Amotekun working was given by Tinubu. It was Tinubu that advised them not to make it regional in a sense that FG would oppose it. He advised them to decentralize it and work with both state and federal legislature.

Did FG oppose Amotekun because it was going to be a regional security outfit or because it was going to be a state police?
Amotekun was declared illegal by Malami because according to him, no state had the power to create a police or paramilitary outfit. Note that it had already been created then.
If you had listened to Makinde very well, you'll hear he said they wanted state police. It's because it failed they settled for Amotekun which each state was to create and back by law just as all the north east states have CJTF. Only Lagos state did not create it neither does the law exist in Lagos. So explain how a man gave an idea to others he never used himself.
Your claim is baseless. Amotekun was supposed to be a regional police backed by law in all the states of the SW. The fact that Lagos did not sign it means that initiative failed in that regard so your praise is misguided. Tinubu actually sabotaged Amotekun

WizardOfNG:
Lol. Well, I don't expect you to have the capacity for admitting the truth. Keep trying to con the gullible. Those who defer to facts and proven reality will be laughing at you because they see your desperation to lie simply to deny Tinubu credit.

Don't come here attempting to launder the image of operation sweep merely because you cannot rise above bigotry to give "Yoruba President" credit ever.

Operation sweep had it's initial period of success but was vidtually redundant and fading when Tinubu replaced it with the far better and far more effective RRS.

Na wa o
Your screenshot says it ended in July 1999 and was replaced by RRS. And you're still writing gibberish to what end if I may ask?
Tinubu took office in May 1999 Mr Zone B. Operation Sweep existed two clear months into his tenure till he renamed it into RRS in conjunctionwith the state Police command. Why is it so hard for you to take this education? I get it. It's hard to let go of what you've been brainwashed to believe like a mule that Tinubu created Lagos and everything in it.
Meanwhile, give a straight answer: What security challenge did RRS resolve that was bigger than that of Operation Sweep? That's were ill know where you were in the 90s

Parachoko:
When did Makinde said all the things you're saying?

Because as at the last time, the victims were still lamenting

He said it
Go and get properly informed
Don't just be filling your head with trash from Zone Bee WhatsApp group