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Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by Image123(m): 9:44am On May 29
WizardOfNG:
Most of them are a disgrace because they are always ready to lie blatantly or deny factual truth in hope their political candidate (mainly Atiku or Obi) profit electorally.
Very true. They are working for their stomach.
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by Chucks13: 9:57am On May 29
Makinde stop noise this is time to align with the Fed govt on how to release those kids from captivity.

No state police for now cus you governors will bastardised it and turn it your weapon to fight whoever not with you so rest.
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by WizardOfNG: 10:02am On May 29
Kukutente23:
Na wa o
Your screenshot says it ended in July 1999 and was replaced by RRS. And you're still writing gibberish to what end if I may ask?
Tinubu took office in May 1999 Mr Zone B. Operation Sweep existed two clear months into his tenure till he renamed it into RRS in conjunctionwith the state Police command. Why is it so hard for you to take this education? I get it. It's hard to let go of what you've been brainwashed to believe like a mule that Tinubu created Lagos and everything in it.
Meanwhile, give a straight answer: What security challenge did RRS resolve that was bigger than that of Operation Sweep? That's were ill know where you were in the 90s
You are not someone that knows the meaning of the word integrity let alone be capable of being a representation of it.

You crafted many lies I have debunked with proven facts such the ludicrous claim operation sweep did everything better than RRS it was replaced with whereas RRS is miles superior.

This is why you guys, because of innate character flaws, are very difficult to take seriously.

Who lies to then be incapable of retracing their step when shown the factual and korokoro truth other than shamelessly dishonorable folks?
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by Mamaafrik1(m): 10:07am On May 29
Image123:
Makinde is an hypocrite here. It's still Tinubu that made the suggestion that he's bragging about.

https://www.thecable.ng/breaking-tinubu-finally-breaks-silence-on-amotekun/
Who be this one,just shut up
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by Image123(m): 10:08am On May 29
Mamaafrik1:
Who be this one,just shut up
Why, do you have contrary facts? Can you really survive in a democracy?
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by Kukutente23: 10:08am On May 29
WizardOfNG:
You are not someone that knows the meaning of the word integrity let alone be capable of being a representation of it.

You crafted many lies I have debunked with proven facts such the ludicrous claim operation sweep did everything better than RRS it was replaced with whereas RRS is miles superior.

This is why you guys, because of innate character flaws, are very difficult to take seriously.

Who lies to then be incapable of retracing their step when shown the factual and korokoro truth other than shamelessly dishonorable folks?
Give a straight answer not grammar
What security challenge did RRS resolve that's greater than that of Operation sweep
I guess Femi Adesina also lacks integrity
Simple question you can't answer
Another simple question: Was RRS created from scratch or it was formed from Operation Sweep

Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by Image123(m): 10:16am On May 29
Kukutente23:
Did FG oppose Amotekun because it was going to be a regional security outfit or because it was going to be a state police?
Amotekun was declared illegal by Malami because according to him, no state had the power to create a police or paramilitary outfit. Note that it had already been created then.
If you had listened to Makinde very well, you'll hear he said they wanted state police. It's because it failed they settled for Amotekun which each state was to create and back by law just as all the north east states have CJTF. Only Lagos state did not create it neither does the law exist in Lagos. So explain how a man gave an idea to others he never used himself.
Your claim is baseless. Amotekun was supposed to be a regional police backed by law in all the states of the SW. The fact that Lagos did not sign it means that initiative failed in that regard so your praise is misguided. Tinubu actually sabotaged Amotekun
All what you just said is what i said. Tinubu advised them to do this. Like you said, they wanted to make Amotekun a kind of state police and it was opposed by the then FG as unconstitutional. Lagos signed in unity to establish Amotekun in the South West as they're also a SW state, but they already had their own working community security corps, intelligence-gathering and patrol outfits, and support force working alongside federal security agencies. Amotekun would be a duplication in Lagos so it wasn't created but they work together.
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by Bluntemperor: 10:22am On May 29
Chucks13:
Makinde stop noise this is time to align with the Fed govt on how to release those kids from captivity.

No state police for now cus you governors will bastardised it and turn it your weapon to fight whoever not with you so rest.
So,Seyi Makinde,can come out from wherever he was,like this !
But we have NOT heard his Statement on the School Children- Kidnapped in Oyo
Or is he not the Governor of the State- the First Citizen of the State,So what happened Sir ⁉️
• While the Silence 🤐 ?
•Where is your Amotekun and Forest Guards?
•Why Are you now talking About the State Police 🚓
Or is it because you want to run for Presidency ?
•Have you Obey the Supreme Court Judgement that say -Nigerian Governors Should Open A Seperate Accounts For Local-
Govt under them- for ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY 🪟 !
Nigerian Politicians Are Very Funny o 😲🤣.
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by Image123(m): 10:24am On May 29
Kukutente23:
Give a straight answer not grammar
What security challenge did RRS resolve that's greater than that of Operation sweep
I guess Femi Adesina also lacks integrity
Simple question you can't answer
Another simple question: Was RRS created from scratch or it was formed from Operation Sweep
Operation sweep was a multi agency force and military styled. RRS was police. Police work should be distinct from soldier work.
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by MasterTeeUSA: 10:33am On May 29
Makinde and Lies. IGP will need to determine if its viable...remember how they privatized NEPA...are the DisCos better of? If you rush into things without sense, you will have bigger problems. The other SW created Amotekun...why isnt Makinde fully funding them and equipping them? If Amotekun is everywhere, kids wont be kidnapped. The same people that cant fund Amotekun is telling you they will fully fund State Police and you know dey realize they are the ones playing with people. Now imagine a police force not fully funded with guns...isnt that a recipe for chaos. The same argument states made about LGAs...they used to owe teachers and all...that is why we took them over as State Govts...why not let LGAs have their autonomy? Believe Makinde, a bitter soul who couldn't have his way, at your own peril.



dre11:
https://guardian.ng/news/stop-deceiving-us-on-state-police-gov-makinde-tells-fg/
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by dododawa1: 10:36am On May 29
All of them are






SAME
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by Emmy000seun(m): 10:47am On May 29
Lol.😂..funny enough I'm not a supporter of APC, but if you get used to Lagos road and you have encounter with RRS in Lagos, you will realize they are more composed in doing their jobs, you hardly see them going after Yahoo boys like the regular police..
And if you claim it's federal, then why are other state not emulating there presence everywhere just like Lagos??.. back to the topic Lagos have enough security outfit..and moreover Lagos doesn't have forest like other southwest states so no much need for Amotekun..
Dbegining:
I hate it when you guys play politics with security. It's people's lives you're playing with for God's sake.

RRS is just another sub-department under the Police force. It's still controlled by the FG not the state government. The state government only funds part of it as a gesture of goodwill.

LNSC is not even a vigilante, they ride bicycle and their weapons are sticks!!

Tinubu didn't even suggest Amotekun it was Akeredolu.

Hell would be incomplete without you APC guys.
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by Emmy000seun(m): 10:52am On May 29
Point of correction, I'm not a fan of APC, but we need to say things the way it is..I'm not talking about other state but In Lagos, RRS are police no doubt, but they perform more of professional job than the regular police, and also they don't have stations all around like the regular police, only in Alausa you find their office, and maybe few places..so there is difference..
Kukutente23:
Hahahaha
This dude said RRS is different from police
So how do you get recruited into RRS pls
I want to join
So many brainwashed ignorant folks parading the Internet
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by WizardOfNG: 10:55am On May 29
Image123:
Operation sweep was a multi agency force and military styled. RRS was police. Police work should be distinct from soldier work.
The guy is just obdurately insufferable. Grown man who cannot work with 2+2=4 fact.
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by Kukutente23: 10:57am On May 29
Image123:
All what you just said is what i said. Tinubu advised them to do this. Like you said, they wanted to make Amotekun a kind of state police and it was opposed by the then FG as unconstitutional. Lagos signed in unity to establish Amotekun in the South West as they're also a SW state, but they already had their own working community security corps, intelligence-gathering and patrol outfits, and support force working alongside federal security agencies. Amotekun would be a duplication in Lagos so it wasn't created but they work together.
Ogbeni Amotekun matter was about four years ago. Quit the lies and whitewashing
Amotekun was initially conceived as a regional security initiative among all the six SW states where they will all create and fund it jointly to combat the banditry and terrorism that was seeping into SW especially from Ondo, Ekiti axis then. After they created it, before they could formalise it, the FG through Malami came out and declared it illegal. So the main aim of Amotekun was already largely defeated once it couldn't be birthed as a regional outfit. In a bid to still have some semblance of it, the states decided to create it per state which is what you're claiming for Tinubu. There's no evidence that it was Tinubu that asked them to create it per state or that it was his idea they were following. What is clearer to everyone is that Lagos did not sign Amotekun bill into law neither did it create Amotekun. You're looking to whitewash that by claiming Lagos did not need Amotekun. If so, why did the gov join the remaining SW govs in advocating for Amotekun and why was the bill passed in the House?
I already told you that equating neighbourhood watch with Amotekun simply shows ignorance. The idea behind both are far apart. Amotekun is supposed to be a paramilitary outfit that's charged with riding the forests and boundaries of the SW of terrorist elements not a neighbourhood vigilante service
The amusing thing is how you guys always want to attribute everything to Tinubu especially when it has to do with perceived positive things. Tinubu ultimately betrayed SW's Amotekun initiative. If he truly cared, he should have come out to back it as a regional initiative instead of saying it should be state based and then have Lagos withdrawn from it. I'm sure you've not seen that glaring part. It's the part of messing spurious claim that he told the govs what to do about Amotekun that you're parroting.
I just hope you guys are not deluded into thinking this terrorists are not in Lagos forests because believe it or not, they already are.
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by Kindledlight(m): 10:58am On May 29
This one is campaigning to be president or trying to get a good position from other opposition candidates.

He is now using PBAT to dey shine, if you don’t have anything to campaign against someone why can’t you shout up, anyway sha it’s left to him like wike said, when you feel you have big allocation, you begin to feel you are bigger than God.

What amazes me is how someone will say rubbish and some fellows here will be supporting it because it’s against Tinubu.
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by CorrectionFLuid: 11:05am On May 29
AMINDA:
Okay, Einstein. So does Lagos state have Amotekun right now or not? If not, why not? Was it because someone was scared of provoking the fulanis because of votes or because someone was scared of losing their political grip on Lagos that is currently being reinforced through the use of thuggery? Which one? Seyi Makinde is not a coward.

Tinubu is well known for taking the glory for things he opposed. Some of them include

- fighting for democracy against abacha, when in reality he begged abacha for appointments

- taking sole credit for the development in Lagos

- Claiming he fought for Jonathan

- claiming he nominated osibanjo for vice president

- claiming he spearheaded amotekun

And so many more
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by syntekelite(m): 11:07am On May 29
This incompetent governor keeps deceiving the ignorant and gullible if oyo state had someone like akeredolu those children wld have been freed or rescued by now.
Pointing fingers at tinubu as the reason for state police not being implemented is dangerous mischief even the so called makinde cant even empower his states security architecture yet he wants the president to unilaterally implement state police as if we are in the military era.

Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by WizardOfNG: 11:08am On May 29
Emmy000seun:
Lol.😂..funny enough I'm not a supporter of APC, but if you get used to Lagos road and you have encounter with RRS in Lagos, you will realize they are more composed in doing their jobs, you hardly see them going after Yahoo boys like the regular police..
And if you claim it's federal, then why are other state not emulating there presence everywhere just like Lagos??.. back to the topic Lagos have enough security outfit..and moreover Lagos doesn't have forest like other southwest states so no much need for Amotekun..
💯% correct. Many of them are respectful, professional and eloquently polite. Tinubu magic did that but Nigerians can never rise above ethno-religious chauvinism to give credit to those who deserve it and perhaps learn lessons from them to make their own lives and corner of the earth better.

Many African nations are formally understudying the success of Lagos, that began under Tinubu, yet you have virtually everyone in the SE badmouthing Tinubu and Lagos daily because they believe Obi can profit politically.

The biggest problem of Nigeria is that we are the unluckiest nation in the world with how our people who are irreconcilably different and adversarial against themselves, are inclined to negatively pull, impede, frustrate and drag each other naturally were cobbled together rather than what other nations have where citizens generally head in the same positive direction.
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by pfadom: 11:11am On May 29
Imagine the stupid Solo Makinde who doesn't believe in local government autonomy. How will he administer state policing system?
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by Image123(m): 11:20am On May 29
Kukutente23:
Ogbeni Amotekun matter was about four years ago. Quit the lies and whitewashing
Amotekun was initially conceived as a regional security initiative among all the six SW states where they will all create and fund it jointly to combat the banditry and terrorism that was seeping into SW especially from Ondo, Ekiti axis then. After they created it, before they could formalise it, the FG through Malami came out and declared it illegal. So the main aim of Amotekun was already largely defeated once it couldn't be birthed as a regional outfit. In a bid to still have some semblance of it, the states decided to create it per state which is what you're claiming for Tinubu. There's no evidence that it was Tinubu that asked them to create it per state or that it was his idea they were following. What is clearer to everyone is that Lagos did not sign Amotekun bill into law neither did it create Amotekun. You're looking to whitewash that by claiming Lagos did not need Amotekun. If so, why did the gov join the remaining SW govs in advocating for Amotekun and why was the bill passed in the House?
I already told you that equating neighbourhood watch with Amotekun simply shows ignorance. The idea behind both are far apart. Amotekun is supposed to be a paramilitary outfit that's charged with riding the forests and boundaries of the SW of terrorist elements not a neighbourhood vigilante service
The amusing thing is how you guys always want to attribute everything to Tinubu especially when it has to do with perceived positive things. Tinubu ultimately betrayed SW's Amotekun initiative. If he truly cared, he should have come out to back it as a regional initiative instead of saying it should be state based and then have Lagos withdrawn from it. I'm sure you've not seen that glaring part. It's the part of messing spurious claim that he told the govs what to do about Amotekun that you're parroting.
I just hope you guys are not deluded into thinking this terrorists are not in Lagos forests because believe it or not, they already are.
https://www.thecable.ng/breaking-tinubu-finally-breaks-silence-on-amotekun/

Read till you understand. You can translate to a language you're more convenient with.
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by Burob: 11:29am On May 29
DonFreshmoney:
Makinde has a point there. Tinubu is just playing to the gallery with the state police. Watch him use state police to campaign for 2027 then abandon it if he wins. The question is why didnt Lagos join their sister states to create Amotekun?
Shameless people, everything Tinubu.

Same nonsense behavior under President Buhari.
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by Kindledlight(m): 11:53am On May 29
happney65:
You APC data boys and girls will not seize to amaze me. Lagos doesn't need Amotekun but was a signatory to the creation of it? Maybe you don't know Sanwo Olu was in Ibadan with other SW Govornors times without number during the creation of Amotekun. Yet Lagos doesn't need it. If they don't why did they join?

Why did they sign to it's creation? Why? Comparing Amotekun to Lagos neigbourd watch is funny. Those ones that are like traffic police? Lmao. grin

The truth of the matter is this, I don't know of any other state,But Oyo Amotekun is the most funded and they are doing well. We already have a sort of mini state police and if tinubu is sure of himself and wants to nip terrorism in the bud,he should grant state Police and stop playing politics with human lives.

An Oyo that shares border with Benin Republic needs more security than having just 74 police station statewide. We do not want terrorists in our region. If he is truly not an omo ale,he should do the right thing and save his region and stop crying obi everyone and then
I don’t care of the nonsense you’ve written up there o but if previous presidents have done what Tinubu has done about creating state police by now we won’t be talking about creating it but talking about the reality and probably how Governors are using them against oppositions.
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by Emmy000seun(m): 12:12pm On May 29
The major problem of some people is that they haven't been to Lagos, knows how to navigate the city...one thing I realized is no matter how good a city( even outside Nigeria)will be, if you don't know your way around, it must lead to regret...they only believe on what they read online, there are some topic I can look away but when to say the truth and reality, it need to be said.. some people criticize what they don't know much about..
WizardOfNG:
💯% correct. Many of them are respectful, professional and eloquently polite. Tinubu magic did that but Nigerians can never rise above ethno-religious chauvinism to give credit to those who deserve it and perhaps learn lessons from them to make their own lives and corner of the earth better.

Many African nations are formally understudying the success of Lagos, that began under Tinubu, yet you have virtually everyone in the SE badmouthing Tinubu and Lagos daily because they believe Obi can profit politically.

The biggest problem of Nigeria is that we are the unluckiest nation in the world with how our people who are irreconcilably different and adversarial against themselves, are inclined to negatively pull, impede, frustrate and drag each other naturally were cobbled together rather than what other nations have where citizens generally head in the same positive direction.
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by Kindledlight(m): 12:14pm On May 29
GreenCovering:
I know this is political but Jagaban has dragged on for too long on this particular subject matter while the lives of defenceless citizens keep getting waisted. The affected ones today were the ones who cried for the victims of yesterday. This is a large governance hole that the government of the day has yet to address. Or are there some vested interests within the hierarchy vehemently opposed to the establishment of state policing? Why are the people not empowered to be proactive about their safety or to be able to put up a minimal resistance in the face of a brazen attack on their community because this is essentially state policing. If the government has failed to address the proliferation of arms, then they should help the people with the necessary policy adjustments and bootstrapping to organise themselves against these senseless marauders. undecided
But I hope you know it isn’t Tinubu’s unilateral decision to create state police, Infact the 1999 constitution as we have today needs to be amended and that is why Akpabio even said it yesterday after visiting PBAT that they will speedily do what’s needed to create state police and I know there should have been a discussion towards that for him to speak strongly about it and again don’t also forget that he directed the IG to outline all the various components to make it a success and if am not mistaken the IG has formed a committee towards that.
Makinde is just massaging his ego and that of his oga Atiku, if he likes let him continue saying rubbish, because he knows some stupid fellows will fall for it. For him mind now, him dey campaign against Tinubu. 😯
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by Kukutente23: 12:16pm On May 29
Emmy000seun:
Point of correction, I'm not a fan of APC, but we need to say things the way it is..I'm not talking about other state but In Lagos, RRS are police no doubt, but they perform more of professional job than the regular police, and also they don't have stations all around like the regular police, only in Alausa you find their office, and maybe few places..so there is difference..
How does being more professional according to you and not having offices around make them different from other police. The guys in RRS are still regular police officers. They are being paid by FG and are part of the rank and file of the police. They report to the state commissioner so how are they different? Are you saying because they work in a separate unit makes them no longer regular police officers or what?
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by Kukutente23: 12:18pm On May 29
Image123:
https://www.thecable.ng/breaking-tinubu-finally-breaks-silence-on-amotekun/

Read till you understand. You can translate to a language you're more convenient with.
What's there to read? Are you just seeing the article or what?
He was practically dragged before he released the statement so what exactly are you on about?
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by Kukutente23: 12:24pm On May 29
MasterTeeUSA:
Makinde and Lies. IGP will need to determine if its viable...remember how they privatized NEPA...are the DisCos better of? If you rush into things without sense, you will have bigger problems. The other SW created Amotekun...why isnt Makinde fully funding them and equipping them? If Amotekun is everywhere, kids wont be kidnapped. The same people that cant fund Amotekun is telling you they will fully fund State Police and you know dey realize they are the ones playing with people. Now imagine a police force not fully funded with guns...isnt that a recipe for chaos. The same argument states made about LGAs...they used to owe teachers and all...that is why we took them over as State Govts...why not let LGAs have their autonomy? Believe Makinde, a bitter soul who couldn't have his way, at your own peril.
So why has Tinubu not funded federal police to be everywhere? He's the one in control of the police not Makinde and it's the duty of the police he controls to fight kidnapping and banditry because you left Tinubu's police and whining about Makinde and Amotekun
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by WizardOfNG: 12:24pm On May 29
Emmy000seun:
The major problem of some people is that they haven't been to Lagos, knows how to navigate the city...one thing I realized is no matter how good a city( even outside Nigeria)will be, if you don't know your way around, it must lead to regret... they only believe on what they read online, there are some topic I can look away but when to say the truth and reality, it need to be said.. some people criticize what they don't know much about..
The bolded is the gospel truth. My experience with Lagos police is very good. Be law-abiding, have all the required document, and be polite and gracious, you won't have problems.
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by Kukutente23: 12:25pm On May 29
Image123:
Operation sweep was a multi agency force and military styled. RRS was police. Police work should be distinct from soldier work.
So why are Soldiers being deployed to fight banditry and terrorism which are domestic issues under your beloved APC and you've found nothing wrong with it but you have a problem with Marwa creating a multi agency task force to combat armed robbery. Mind you, Operation Sweep was basically run by the police. Reduce your lies
Re: Stop Deceiving Us On State Police – Gov Makinde Tells FG by Kukutente23: 12:28pm On May 29
WizardOfNG:
The bolded is the gospel truth. My experience with Lagos police is very good. Be law-abiding, have all the required document, and be polite and gracious, you won't have problems.
Delusions
You mean the police in Lagos don't take bribe
There are no rogue elements in the police in Lagos
They even give you chicken and meat pie when they meet you
Kuku talk say they are sent from heaven
So why has Tinubu not replicated the Lagos police he created all over the Federation now that he's fully in charge abi no for Lagos his magic dey end?
It seems you guys in your cloud nine fantasies conveniently forget that your packaged fraud has been president for 3 years with almost nothing to show
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