₦airaland Forum

Svoboda:
Dynamics have changed. Atiku is largely unhurt. I've said this repeatedly. Atiku is beyond the pdp APC matrix. In fact, most of Atikus new voters from the north are from the APC.

.So the killings in Zamfara, Katsina, Kano, Sokoto etc by the Lakurawa bandits will not affect Atiku who is a Fulani like them?

Akpakomiza2:
Does Atiku control north central? Who is 100% sure to win kogi, kwara, Niger, Borno

Tinubu winning borno was because of shettima. Let him drop shettima, he won't see 10%.

Niger is undecided. Tinubu can take kogi and Kwara. They're now largely inconsequential. Niger is 50/50. This is because aggrieved APC members in Nigeria are now in adc.

lawani:
.So the killings in Zamfara, Katsina, Kano, Sokoto etc by the Lakurawa bandits will not affect Atiku who is a Fulani like them?

If it didn't affect Buhari, why should it affect Atiku? Is Atiku the president?

Svoboda:
If it didn't affect Buhari, why should it affect Atiku? Is Atiku the president?

There was no Lakurawa before Buhari. Only Boko Haram. Anyway it might not affect him but I will be surprised if it doesn't. If we all want peace and prosperity, disintegration will be what everyone will agree on

lawani:
There was no Lakurawa before Buhari. Only Boko Haram. Anyway it might not affect him but I will be surprised if it doesn't. If we all want peace and prosperity, disintegration will be what everyone will agree on

The idea of disintegration has to be mutual and non violent, and rather than total integration, why not confederation?

Svoboda:
The idea of disintegration has to be mutual and non violent, and rather than total integration, why not confederation?

Destiny need not be tied together is the point because we have experimented enough with that. Europe today is more or less a federation despite all the turmoil in their history. The whole world should be a federation and the relationship between Hausa and Yoruba don't need to be more special than the one between Yoruba and any other ethnic nationality on Earth or between Hausa and any other nationality on Earth. It was longer throat that led to the formation of Nigeria

lawani:
Destiny need not be tied together is the point because we have experimented enough with that. Europe today is more or less a federation despite all the turmoil in their history. The whole world should be a federation and the relationship between Hausa and Yoruba don't need to be more special than the one between Yoruba and any other ethnic nationality on Earth or between Hausa and any other nationality on Earth. It was longer throat that led to the formation of Nigeria

Haha! You're amazing those who consider Nigeria a business enterprise.

Svoboda:
Tinubu winning borno was because of shettima. Let him drop shettima, he won't see 10%.

Niger is undecided. Tinubu can take kogi and Kwara. They're now largely inconsequential. Niger is 50/50. This is because aggrieved APC members in Nigeria are now in adc.

Niger is not undecided. Most Atiku fans I know have given it to Tinubu. There's no ADC presence in Niger. Whoever wins kogi and kwara usually wins eventually. You said Tinubu has no base in the north, so you lied as usual. At least shettima will bring Borno and Yobe to an extent. Which state can Atiku running mate win? Can you see that there's no pathway for Atiku?

Svoboda:
Dynamics have changed. Atiku is largely unhurt. I've said this repeatedly. Atiku is beyond the pdp APC matrix. In fact, most of Atikus new voters from the north are from the APC.

You will soon see Atiku's real strength. Let me ask, are you equating Atiku now to late buhari in popularity and strength

Akpakomiza2:
You will soon see Atiku's real strength. Let me ask, are you equating Atiku now to late buhari in popularity and strength

I am not equating Atiku to Buhari in any way. I'm only saying that with the current dynamics, Atiku has the edge, simply because he has no other contender from the north and will harvest the discontent Tinubu is suffering in the north.

Svoboda:
I am not equating Atiku to Buhari in any way. I'm only saying that with the current dynamics, Atiku has the edge, simply because he has no other contender from the north and will harvest the discontent Tinubu is suffering in the north.

As far as he cannot get the votes buhari amassed, he cannot make any headway. He has no chance in Kano. You yourself has conceded Borno and the north central.

Akpakomiza2:
Niger is not undecided. Most Atiku fans I know have given it to Tinubu. There's no ADC presence in Niger. Whoever wins kogi and kwara usually wins eventually. You said Tinubu has no base in the north, so you lied as usual. At least shettima will bring Borno and Yobe to an extent. Which state can Atiku running mate win? Can you see that there's no pathway for Atiku?

You're counting Shettimas influence as Tinubus if you're counting Borno and Yobe. In 2023, APC narrowly won Borno inspire of Shettima and lost Yobe for the first time since 1999. Same scenario might repeat itself.

When I mean Tinubu has no support base in the north, I mean it. He's relying on borrowed strength and not on organic support.

Strategically, Atiku doesn't need a very strong VP candidate from the south as such, as long as no single candidate gets an outright majority from the south, while he maintains numerical advantage in the north as its only candidate.

Svoboda:
You're counting Shettimas influence as Tinubus if you're counting Borno and Yobe. In 2023, APC narrowly won Borno inspire of Shettima and lost Yobe for the first time since 1999. Same scenario might repeat itself.

When I mean Tinubu has no support base in the north, I mean it. He's relying on borrowed strength and not on organic support.

Strategically, Atiku doesn't need a very strong VP candidate from the south as such, as long as no single candidate gets an outright majority from the south, while he maintains numerical advantage in the north as its only candidate.

APC underated Atiku strength in Borno,Yobe. They also took things for granted in Lagos. Same scenario cannot repeat itself especially as rumours of shettima being dropped as running mate gained traction. You know he has 2031 ambition so he will deliver by any means.
The main reason of choosing a good running mate is to compliment you electorally, financially etc. shettima has done that and atiku cannot which is one of the reasons Atiku always comes short. Even buhari couldn't win everywhere, he needed help and borrowed strength. I told you already that tinubu covers his lack of organic support with several other advantages which atiku lacks. Tinubu is simply superior politically. I already told you that tinubu will win atiku outrightly in the south and get good votes up north. Atiku will score what obi scored in 2023

Akpakomiza2:
As far as he cannot get the votes buhari amassed, he cannot make any headway. He has no chance in Kano. You yourself has conceded Borno and the north central.

Whatever Tinubu loses in the south, he won't be able to make up for in the north. I hope you know the NC is so heterogenous that even the Igbos and other southern tribes bar the Yoruba have formed a voting bloc?

Svoboda:
Whatever Tinubu loses in the south, he won't be able to make up for in the north. I hope you know the NC is so heterogenous that even the Igbos and other southern tribes bar the Yoruba have formed a voting bloc?

Tinubu is not losing anything in the south against Atiku. No matter how heterogenous the NC is, Atiku is out of it. Just as obi won south narrowly in 2023 and lost scandalously in the north is how atiku will win the north narrowly and lose scandalously down South

kestolove95:
Walahi i will vote for Jonathan 1m times

Why did you vote against him in 2015??

AkpaMgbor:
Why did you vote against him in 2015??

because I choose buhari over him nd i hv no regret

Wike never see any thing

kestolove95:
because I choose buhari over him nd i hv no regret

Yes you do. If you didn’t you wouldn’t be wanting him back a “million times”