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| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 1:38pm On Jun 04 |
[quote author=BlueRayDick post=139614847]Kids dey go do excursion for FLYOVER in Edo state 😂. Wonders no fit end for this country na Lord Lugard cause this one too? Even if Nigeria is balkanized into 50 different countries, it'll result in 50 failed mini Nigerias. Cursed region. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 1:43pm On Jun 04 |
BlueRayDick:LMAO ![]() The man has said repeatedly that God did not call him to be a politician but a preacher whose primary assignment is to win souls. Yet, people keep dragging him into political debates and demanding that he act like an opposition politician. He has also consistently maintained that his duty toward those in government is to pray for them and advise them when necessary. Whether people agree with that approach or not is a different matter entirely. My reason for engaging in this discussion is simply to correct the false narrative surrounding him. Some people claim that Pastor Adeboye constantly criticized Jonathan's administration and even led protests against him, but we now know that these claims are false. Many have believed these stories for so long that a musician even released a song based on the narrative that he was vocal and actively opposed Jonathan's government, and postested against him but has remained silent today. Yet, when the facts are examined, there is not a shred of evidence to support those allegations. At least now, people can see how media narratives and repeated claims can shape public perception, even when the underlying facts are weak or nonexistent. By now, many people on this platform have seen that the popular narrative being circulated is not entirely accurate. Shikena. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 1:48pm On Jun 04 |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 1:50pm On Jun 04 |
TemporaryHansel: ![]() I personally believe that scattering us into regions will leave us worse off. I'm not saying Lord Lugard's solution is perfect, but this disintegration should have happened earlier. If it happens now, exactly anyhow you said it; 250 failed Nigerias will emerge |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 1:55pm On Jun 04 |
MorataFC:You didn't tell us you have enrolled at raumdeuter's amala turning academy. Instead of providing the links izzou asked for you're just giving us epistle upon epistle, you really learned well from your mentor Raumdeuter. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 1:58pm On Jun 04 |
TemporaryHansel:They are not all the same, and that's why I find it difficult to slander them. I just try to be careful and respect everyone beliefs in these times. I also don't contribute and comment carelessly in public. But not all Muslims are radicals. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:01pm On Jun 04 |
MorataFC:Thank you for your service! 🫡👮 I thought u will end this post with link to Adeboye's criticism of this current administration as requested by popular demand 🤷♂️ |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:03pm On Jun 04 |
TemporaryHansel:What is the correlation between the video and the Lord Luggard discussion? |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 2:10pm On Jun 04 |
BlueRayDick:I saw all the defence tweets and posts yesterday defending Adeboye, and I cannot help but laugh. There's no neutrality in the place of good and evil. Humans are killed per day in Nigeria. A Nigerian is more likely to die today, than in 2022 from terrorism and violence. If our Religious leaders still need to be asked before they speak, or they would quietly suggest.....Then we have another problem as Christians and religious people in Nigeria |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 2:14pm On Jun 04 |
BlueRayDick:I have said it before in my earlier post, if calling the government's attention to insecurity, kidnapping, and insurgency is considered criticism under Government A, then the same should also be regarded as criticism under Government B. The standard must be applied consistently. We cannot define the same action as criticism when it concerns one administration and then redefine it as mere advice when it concerns another. If the act is the same, the standard of judgment should be the same. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 2:19pm On Jun 04 |
TemporaryHansel:How is Raumdeuter my mentor? Raum is Tinubu’s son, and I am not. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by FiveFootNinja(m): 2:22pm On Jun 04 |
MorataFC:I too, would like to see concrete evidence for instances of Pastor Adeboye critiquing the Tinubu govt as well as the 90 day ultimatum. I do not recall any of that happening, but then again I don't have the best memory. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 2:24pm On Jun 04 |
izzou:We can see how south sudan and sudan are fairing decades after splitting. The countries that will emerge from the balkanization will be worse off. In the event of any such thing the countries that will emerge from the north will be the worst hit. They won't last up to a decade before becoming failed states like somalia and co. The ones that will emerge from the south won't go anywhere because of looting of extraordinary dimensions that will become the order of the day. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:24pm On Jun 04 |
izzou:He can't even claim neutrality. RCCG actually has a directorate of politics and governance that was created in 2022 I think. When the office was created then the essence of it's creation was to coordinate and mobilize support for RCCG members in politics. So it's not a tall ask for anybody to expect the leader of that congregation to speak in situations like this. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 2:26pm On Jun 04 |
BlueRayDick:Simple. It's not okay to blame colonizers for Nigeria's failures, for example look at what you posted, are the British the cause of that fvckery? That is the point I tried to make. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:28pm On Jun 04 |
MorataFC:We are waiting for you to share link to Adeboye criticizing Tinubu's administration. All this "Ali is a boy, Simbi is a girl" is not we expect to see. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:31pm On Jun 04 |
TemporaryHansel:And u didn't read the part where it was clarified that there's remote cause and immediate cause of Nigeria's failure as a nation? |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 2:38pm On Jun 04*. Modified: 10:39pm On Jun 04 |
raumdeuter:Apology is not hard at all, we don't continue to turn amala shamelessly in the face of receipts. Good job from the IGP, but it's been weeks now and those children are still in the bush. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 2:39pm On Jun 04 |
BlueRayDick:Can you show me where he specifically criticized Jonathan so that we can compare it with what he has said about the current administration? Your time starts now... |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 2:41pm On Jun 04 |
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| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:46pm On Jun 04 |
Ellexy:Why do you and blueraydick keep insisting that the FG did not send a representative for 2 weeks Yes the children are still in the bush because the security forces have not been able to find a way to extract the children without putting their lives at risk I think th govt should negotiate with them, grant their demands to save the children first and can go after them later, Toda the Oyo state speaker spoke against negotiation with the terorists /video/1 |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:46pm On Jun 04 |
MorataFC:I have showed you what he said, I shared the link here, izzou quoted it yesterday....Check ur mentions it is still there. You are the one who has shown us anything Adeboye said to criticize Tinubu's government. Why are you scared of dropping link of quoting the post here ? |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 2:47pm On Jun 04 |
raumdeuter:Is there any proof that they know where they are currently? |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by semid4lyfe(m): 2:48pm On Jun 04 |
TemporaryHansel:Clearly staged PR but it is still a learning experience. ![]() |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 2:50pm On Jun 04 |
BlueRayDick:Adeboye personally wrote to Jonathan, not speaking at Ibafo. He wrote that he was gathering signatures, including his own to protest the unjust killings of Nigerians Like....He personally wrote the petition According to a petition sent to President Goodluck Jonathan by the spiritual leader of RCCG, Adeboye, which was equally attached to the registration form that was used, yesterday .....I wonder how you can compare this kind of action to the other. I really wish these people will speak up, honestly They have the followership to demand better |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:51pm On Jun 04 |
BlueRayDick:Evidence has shown that he has spoken in every administration |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:52pm On Jun 04 |
izzou:Last week a video by the school principal claimed that some attacks by security agencies around their location has worsened their situation and making the kidnappers more aggressive |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:54pm On Jun 04 |
izzou:Leave Morata to dey "drimble" himself. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 2:54pm On Jun 04 |
raumdeuter:Ohh That's some positive news |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 2:54pm On Jun 04 |
izzou:Yes, they likely know where they are. The challenge is that they cannot simply use force, because the lives of those children at risk. The priority is to secure their safe release, last last na ransome dem go pay. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 2:56pm On Jun 04 |
MorataFC:Yeah. I didn't know that. But Oyo HoA has ruled out ransom payment. I think that's a stupid move, and even publicizing it makes it worse Unless there's a plan behind that statement/publicity |
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