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All these beggars wey LASG dey arrest, what's the plan?

Waybill them back to their respective states? That one go affect votes oh

BlueRayDick:
I have showed you what he said, I shared the link here, izzou quoted it yesterday....Check ur mentions it is still there.

You are the one who has shown us anything Adeboye said to criticize Tinubu's government.

Why are you scared of dropping link of quoting the post here ?

ok

raumdeuter:
Good example, I am glad you mentioned Tunde Onakoya
Why Tunde and What was Tunde Onakoyas crime? Can you help list it? Tunde didnt even campaign for anyone. That is a peak example of the agenda we talk about

Can you or anyone mention Tundes crime

Baba We know say Tunde own dey Tribal, anybody with a clear mind could see it but you see this Fr. Mbaka and Adeboye comparison, e no gel at all. Adeboye na overseer of his own church and he answers to no one in fact at the risk of sounding blasphemous Adeboye is on par with the Pope while Mbaka is on par with the likes of Sola Olukoya and Ibitoye

MorataFC:
ok

Na last year abi na last week

rabazamba:
Na last year abi na last week

well, if you care to know, it was last year.

raumdeuter:
Why do you and blueraydick keep insisting that the FG did not send a representative for 2 weeks
Yes the children are still in the bush because the security forces have not been able to find a way to extract the children without putting their lives at risk

I think th govt should negotiate with them, grant their demands to save the children first and can go after them later, Toda the Oyo state speaker spoke against negotiation with the terorists

Oriire Abduction: "We cannot afford to negotiate with terrorists" - Oyo State House of Assembly Speaker, Rt. Hon. Debo Ogundoyin blows hot. https://t.co/Fe1Xve77cJ pic.twitter.com/fdlCa91tD2

— Oyo Affairs (@Oyoaffairs) June 4, 2026

/video/1

It's simple, because constant negotiation with terrorists and granting their requests keeps incentivising and enabling them.

The stocks of banditry and kidnapping has never been higher than it is currently since Nigeria was founded and that is under your oga's watch. So bad that his region is under threat of being overrun by terrorists and you're here talking about negotiating with them. Yeah they should pay them and get ready to keep doing business with them.

Personally I think at the end of the day criticizing religious leaders for government failings (as much as is your right) is misplaced priority.

Is Adeboye, Kumuyi, Mbaka, or the Sultan of Sokoto the President of Nigeria? Are they in charge of the Army or Police?

You might say lending powerful voices might help the situation but how far can powerful voices really go if those in charge don't do the right thing. Michelle Obama held up BBOG placard that year are they all back?

Adeboye has generally always stayed in his lane when dealing with various Presidents over the years. From Obj, to Yar Adua, Goodluck, and Buhari I can't recall Adeboye explicitly addressing them directly on any failing of their government.

You might not agree with his stance which is fair enough but criticizing him for an action which he has consistently displayed since 1999 is over the top.

izzou:
See the Criticism that MorataFC is very shy of posting.

Maybe it's me that don't understand the word "Criticize", or "Ultimatum"



My greatest joy in these is that people are now beginning to ask for more from these religious leaders, and I am happy that even amongst his members, eye don dey clear small small

Lighthouses no dey blow horn, they just shine. If Tinubu is really doing well, he will be easy to defend. No one will need to embarrass his or herself on national and international TV just to defend him. See another clown 🤡

This morning on Arise TV, Dr. Reuben Abati asked an APC leader Who is the leader of “Bola Tinubu’s ideological group”
He asked him what is the logic behind the group and that it sounded so funny..
And while you’re at it, can you also defend this administration on the issue of… pic.twitter.com/8AICCFB8aD

— BLESSED 🥷 (@Dee_9889) June 4, 2026

chrisooblog:
Personally I think at the end of the day criticizing religious leaders for government failings (as much as is your right) is misplaced priority.

Is Adeboye, Kumuyi, Mbaka, or the Sultan of Sokoto the President of Nigeria? Are they in charge of the Army or Police?

You might say lending powerful voices might help the situation but how far can powerful voices really go if those in charge don't do the right thing. Michelle Obama held up BBOG placard that year are they all back?

Adeboye has generally always stayed in his lane when dealing with various Presidents over the years. From Obj, to Yar Adua, Goodluck, and Buhari I can't recall Adeboye explicitly addressing them directly on any failing of their government.

You might not agree with his stance which is fair enough but criticizing him for an action which he has consistently displayed since 1999 is over the top.

I wanted to actually engage you, but your first paragraph already shows you clearly don't understand what our argument has been about.

There's no where I criticized Adeboye for failing to secure us. There is nowhere I blamed him for the insecurity in Nigeria. If you find anywhere I did so, please quote it

If this is what you understood by my posts, believe me, I don't know where to start engaging you from.

chrisooblog:
Personally I think at the end of the day criticizing religious leaders for government failings (as much as is your right) is misplaced priority.

Is Adeboye, Kumuyi, Mbaka, or the Sultan of Sokoto the President of Nigeria? Are they in charge of the Army or Police?

You might say lending powerful voices might help the situation but how far can powerful voices really go if those in charge don't do the right thing. Michelle Obama held up BBOG placard that year are they all back?

Adeboye has generally always stayed in his lane when dealing with various Presidents over the years. From Obj, to Yar Adua, Goodluck, and Buhari I can't recall Adeboye explicitly addressing them directly on any failing of their government.

You might not agree with his stance which is fair enough but criticizing him for an action which he has consistently displayed since 1999 is over the top.

Thank you👌

He has said that his own duty to preach the Kingdom of God and win millions of souls for God. If he fails in that aspect and anyone can criticizes him, on that basis, I would understand.
Moreso, he has repeatedly stated that he has advised those in government on several occasions, and he does not have the power to compel them to implement his recommendations. At the end of the day, giving advice is one thing, and doing it is another.

Ellexy:
It's simple, because constant negotiation with terrorists and granting their requests keeps incentivising and enabling them.

The stocks of banditry and kidnapping has never been higher than it is currently since Nigeria was founded and that is under your oga's watch. So bad that his region is under threat of being overrun by terrorists and you're here talking about negotiating with them. Yeah they should pay them and get ready to keep doing business with them.

That is a textbook and theoretical answer, in real life and real world, people negotiate with terrorists everyday

When Britany Griner was held in Russia for being in possession of a smoke vape to secure her release US had to negotiate with Russia and Russia demanded the release of a brutal arms dealer who has ben responsible for American death, America granted it. released the guy

When the Hamas terrorists captured Israeli party goers, to get them released Hamas demanded the release of all their convicted criminals in Israeli prison, some of these prisoners had killed Israelis and promised to kill more, Yet Israel granted their wish and released them to secure their hostage

The negotiation between Iran which is classified as a terrorist regime by the US will include granting some of Irans request including financial and other things

Imagine if any of these Oriire kids were the Speakers son or nephew, do you think he will negotiate or not?

America that sells the mantra "Don't negotiate with terrorists" do that on a regular basis. I have friends in the US army who have told me how many times they took Dollars in bags to unknown locations to "Shady people" to get things done, Later the govt will come out and tell you it was commando work

rabazamba:
Baba We know say Tunde own dey Tribal, anybody with a clear mind could see it but you see this Fr. Mbaka and Adeboye comparison, e no gel at all. Adeboye na overseer of his own church and he answers to no one in fact at the risk of sounding blasphemous Adeboye is on par with the Pope while Mbaka is on par with the likes of Sola Olukoya and Ibitoye

I respect your opinion on this

raumdeuter:
That is a textbook and theoretical answer, in real life and real world, people negotiate with terrorists everyday

When Britany Griner was held in Russia for being in possession of a smoke vape to secure her release US had to negotiate with Russia and Russia demanded the release of a brutal arms dealer who has ben responsible for American death, America granted it. released the guy

When the Hamas terrorists captured Israeli party goers, to get them released Hamas demanded the release of all their convicted criminals in Israeli prison, some of these prisoners had killed Israelis and promised to kill more, Yet Israel granted their wish and released them to secure their hostage

The negotiation between Iran which is classified as a terrorist regime by the US will include granting some of Irans request including financial and other things

Imagine if any of these Oriire kids were the Speakers son or nephew, do you think he will negotiate or not?

America that sells the mantra "Don't negotiate with terrorists" do that on a regular basis. I have friends in the US army who have told me how many times they took Dollars in bags to unknown locations to "Shady people" to get things done, Later the govt will come out and tell you it was commando work

The elephant you can't ignore is that insecurity has multiplied exponentially and expanded to new territories under Tinubu, that is real life. Tinubu's effort or the lack thereof has only emboldened terrorism and banditry, that is real life reality in 2026 Nigeria. The buck of this stops at his table as the GCFR, he should stop politicising this insecurity and do his primary job of securing lives and property of those he's leading.

Negotiation or not, none of it is even working under him either to curb the problem or protecting the lives of citizens.

izzou:
Why do I have a feeling that this comment......?

Never mind

I think I'm hungry

I just dey come. I no.meet the comment on time.

TemporaryHansel:
You didn't tell us you have enrolled at raumdeuter's amala turning academy.

Instead of providing the links izzou asked for you're just giving us epistle upon epistle, you really learned well from your mentor Raumdeuter.

Morata is a member of RCCG. Allow him defend his daddy with everyrhing in him.

izzou:
All these beggars wey LASG dey arrest, what's the plan?

Waybill them back to their respective states? That one go affect votes oh

i think it is a low key rounding up of potential informers

GloriousGbola:
i think it is a low key rounding up of potential informers

Will they keep them in a destitute home? prison? or what will government do to them after these arrests?

I mean the handicapped beggers and the elderly ones among them

Ellexy:
The elephant you can't ignore is that insecurity has multiplied exponentially and expanded to new territories under Tinubu, that is real life. Tinubu's effort or the lack thereof has only emboldened terrorism and banditry, that is real life reality in 2026 Nigeria. The buck of this stops at his table as the GCFR, he should stop politicising this insecurity and do his primary job of securing lives and property of those he's leading.

Negotiation or not, none of it is even working under him either to curb the problem or protecting the lives of citizens.

How is Tinubu making it a political issue? The govt has been doing a lot to eliminate terrorists, everyday I see posts by amoto on terrorists being eiminated daily

Its true that insecurity has expanded, and getting worse, but what is also true is that govt is doing a lot to curb it

GloriousGbola:
Cc folake4u.

I don hear say na for only in movies edo peeps dey see flyover. (seeing as na broom edo women dey take move anyway)

Thank God you enter Lagos so you will see flyover in your lifetime.

Thank God for Sunday. He has brought development to edo

Izzou can now drive through edo and avoid underbridge task force

I suffered from second hand embarrassment watching that video.

It's just sad that everything's going the political route.

raumdeuter:
I respect your opinion on this

Thank you Baba, but I was looking forward to an argument

See wetin LGA chairwoman commission for Ebonyi state.

And people clapped
And people praised her

And that same person's vote is supposed to be equal to my own!

Tufiakwa

raumdeuter:
How is Tinubu making it a political issue? The govt has been doing a lot to eliminate terrorists, everyday I see posts by amoto on terrorists being eiminated daily

Its true that insecurity has expanded, and getting worse, but what is also true is that govt is doing a lot to curb it

Good question, he has come out to say opposition is trying to use insecurity to remove him from office and he'll do everything to win. Even with this insecurity, he's thinking politics same way Buhari said they wanted to remove him because of Endsars.

VIDEO: The opposition wants to use insecurity to remove me from office. But I won’t allow that to happen. — President Bola Ahmed Tinubu 👀😳👇 pic.twitter.com/4zvPIN10gR

— A. Ayofe (@abdullahayofel) June 4, 2026

MorataFC:
well, if you care to know, it was last year.

Sorry but can you show the date for actual reference purposes thank you kind sir, because my own is carrying a different date

rabazamba:
Sorry but can you show the date for actual reference purposes thank you kind sir, because my own is carrying a different date

Oti sele bayi

KingTom:
Oti sele bayi

I think I have waited long enough, over 2 hrs now, Since Izzou and Raybluedick asked for evidence of Pastor Adeboye's statement, I provided the post they requested. Since then, there has been no response from either of them. To be honest, I wasn't expecting one, because it is difficult to argue against facts.

Interestingly, there is currently a topic on Nairaland's front page now, where Peter Obi cautioned young people about comments attributed to Pastor Adeboye and advised them to verify every claim before accepting it as truth. That is what I have been saying here now for the past 24hrs

Moreso, Mike Bamiloye also stated that Pastor Adeboye gave the security ultimatum as far back as last year, yet not a single major media outlet reported it. This is why it is important to verify information for yourself rather than relying solely on headlines or popular narratives.

I have said it here before, the media will often give you what they know you want to hear, but not what you need to know.

Facts remain facts, whether the media chooses to amplify them or ignore them.

The second part

If you need the link
https://www.nairaland.com/8684418/obi-youths-dont-expect-adeboye

I don't know how true this is, but people on Twitter are speculating these are the demands of the kidnappers..

They are alleging point number actually involved the state assembly amending laws to accomodate the Fulani militia allocation of lands and Sharia law being introduced in the state.

PS: I don't know how true this is, but different accounts on Twitter are claiming they got the info from internal sources.

MorataFC

I understand if you are a member of RCCG, and please don't take my draggings as something mixed with agenda. I apologize if my comments look offensive to you. That's not my intention.

I'm also a Christian. The same way I am dragging Adeboye, is the same way I am dragging my own Vicar too. You cannot claim to be our leader and keep quiet when your sheep is being slaughtered

Yes, you can be mute about the economy and other stuff. I have no issues with that. But when people are killed senselessly, you should speak. You should be the conscience of the government, and not just dropping comment like it's a casual thing.

One of the qualities of a prophet is to rebuke evil. If you say God called you, God must give you that voice to call out evil. Our religious leaders are mute. Nigerians are killed everyday, and nobody calls these things out.

I still insist that if a Christian was president and these killings were happening, Muslim leaders would have dragged him to the last, and yes, that's the right thing to do.

Churches would be burnt and they would move on. Hundreds would be killed and it's just another day. Is that what Jesus Christ would have done?

No vex if I offend your belief. It wasn't my intention in any way

rabazamba:
Thank you Baba, but I was looking forward to an argument

Chairman if you want an argument I can give you one but Baba for this thread na you I respect pass, People who have laid there lives on the ground for the rest of us to sleep peacefully at night Get special props from me