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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 5:04pm On Jun 10
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 5:40pm On Jun 10
see where the reformists and their "negotiations are ongoing" f00001shness has landed them

the us will attack iran again today
in the past, they came up with bs reasons to justify the attacks
not anymore

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 5:53pm On Jun 10
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Namaster: 6:10pm On Jun 10
LordAdam16:
i have touched on the limitations on the irgc/hard liners before

i'll state it again plainly

this war started because some 15 to 30% of the population were okay or were ambivalent to epstein-backed terrorists burning down the country

as bad as the reformists are, they're in the 70 or so percent that backed the republic

you purge the reformist figures and you have to manage a war and an economy under severe pressure with just 30% core support and 70% who are disenfranchised

you can see the problem with the math




secondly, many reformist leaders outside the government have been purged including former officials

how to purge those in the government during an existential war is the bottleneck

it would have been way easier if Jalili had won and the conservatives controlled the executive
it would have been very easy to silence the reformists currently in government who would be in the opposition writing opeds and bs
and their support base will fall in line due to the rally around the flag phenomenom
that cannot happen now. if they get purged, the support base will be pissed and who knows how they will react




then you get to the institutional shackles placed on the irgc/hardliners

the current system of government was over-engineered to prevent one group from achieving total dominance

recall that the irgc was set up to prevent the regular military from doing what we now want the irgc to do

the mullahs created a gridlock where every level of the irgc, from the top brass to the brigade level has a mullah (called the supreme leader representative)
this system was copied from the communists and exists in china and nk today
the ccp has a party representative in each rung of the chinese military

same thing in iran
in each of the 16 military districts and every missile base, there is a towel head there to keep an eye on the military

the mullahs are only united by their desire to remain at the top of the food chain
at the individual level, there are as many reformists within their ranks as conversatives
for instance, the powerful grandson of khomeini (the first ayatollah) is a reformist

between all of the councils, offices, and institutions; iran is not like nigeria
where if the military wants to take over, it's about putting the president on house arrest
lock up the national assembly and announce a change in the system on NTA




i don't even know what the irgc/conservatives can do right now to unwound the gordian knot

something will have to break first

-Lord
Let me see if I get this straight:

There are 3 prominent Political Ideologies in Iran.

First 30% are made up of the people who would be HAPPY to see Iran ENGULFED in flames.
I'm guessing the MOOMOO Crown Prince in EXILE belongs to this group.

The NEXT 30-40% are the ANTI-NUKER Reformists who BELIEVE they can negotiate with the American TERRORISTS.
They still believe in the possibility of getting SANCTION-RELIEFS and possibly re-integrating Iran into the Western Economy.

There are POWERFUL people in this group.
Including Aragchi, President Pezeshkian and the grandson of the FIRST Ayatollah Khomeini.

Then the FINAL group are the conservatives who have the TOP commanders of the IRGC in their ranks.
Plus, the new Khameini too.

And MOST of the conservatives want NUKES.

But because of the COMPLEX nature of the Iranian Government System, they CANNOT pursue that WITHOUT the cooperation of the Reformists who essentially run a large aspect of the government.

Meanwhile, they CONTINUE to get ATTACKED and KILLED.

And most of the TOP people getting ASSASSINATED appear to be from the Conservative side of the government.

That said, your PhD-level explanation of the Internal Politics have revealed 2 things:

1. Iran is NOT half as authoritarian as the COMPROMISED Western Media would have us believe.

They made it sound like the IRGC act with ZERO input from any other arm of government.
While in reality, Iran runs a system of government that has MORE EFFECTIVE checks and balances than the Epstein Regime.

2. The Reformist part of government is filled with STEWPID and TREASONOUS entities.
They are ready to watch their country get SYSTEMATICALLY OBLITERATED by the American TERRORISTS and ILLsrael than follow the most OBVIOUS solutions.

This is in CONTRAST to the Americans.
In fact, you still wrote about EVERY aspect of the American Society being a "team player".

IF they think something is in their best interests, EVERYBODY in government and the media would ABANDON the differences in their Political Ideologies and work together.

Like they did with the Epstein Files.

Biden's Democrat government PROTECTED the PDFiles.

The PDFile's current Republican government is also PROTECTING them.

And whoever comes NEXT will CONTINUE that protection.

Meanwhile, these Iranians CANNOT work together to avoid EXTINCTION.

The MORE I learn about these Iranian Politicians, the more they DISGUST me.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Namaster: 6:12pm On Jun 10
LordAdam16:
see where the reformists and their "negotiations are ongoing" f00001shness has landed them

the us will attack iran again today
in the past, they came up with bs reasons to justify the attacks
not anymore

-Lord
IF they attack and kill their people TODAY, Aragchi will TWEET about diplomacy TOMORROW.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 6:16pm On Jun 10
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 6:31pm On Jun 10
WriterrNg:


Can we stop calling it bribe please.

That's Iran's own hard earned money right there.

The US were forced to return it.
Of course, it was from monies due Iran that the shameless west stole in the name of sanctions.

But, the fact that Uncle Sam did release a part of it as bribe to prevent further attacks on the genocidal vipers is so shameless on he part of the world supposed sole superpower.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 6:36pm On Jun 10
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 6:42pm On Jun 10
Namaster:
Let me see if I get this straight:

There are 3 prominent Political Ideologies in Iran.

First 30% are made up of the people who would be HAPPY to see Iran ENGULFED in flames.
I'm guessing the MOOMOO Crown Prince in EXILE belongs to this group.

The NEXT 30-40% are the ANTI-NUKER Reformists who BELIEVE they can negotiate with the American TERRORISTS.
They still believe in the possibility of getting SANCTION-RELIEFS and possibly re-integrating Iran into the Western Economy.

There are POWERFUL people in this group.
Including Aragchi, President Pezeshkian and the grandson of the FIRST Ayatollah Khomeini.

Then the FINAL group are the conservatives who have the TOP commanders of the IRGC in their ranks.
Plus, the new Khameini too.

And MOST of the conservatives want NUKES.

But because of the COMPLEX nature of the Iranian Government System, they CANNOT pursue that WITHOUT the cooperation of the Reformists who essentially run a large aspect of the government.

Meanwhile, they CONTINUE to get ATTACKED and KILLED.

And most of the TOP people getting ASSASSINATED appear to be from the Conservative side of the government.

That said, your PhD-level explanation of the Internal Politics have revealed 2 things:

1. Iran is NOT half as authoritarian as the COMPROMISED Western Media would have us believe.

They made it sound like the IRGC act with ZERO input from any other arm of government.
While in reality, Iran runs a system of government that has MORE EFFECTIVE checks and balances than the Epstein Regime.

2. The Reformist part of government is filled with STEWPID and TREASONOUS entities.
They are ready to watch their country get SYSTEMATICALLY OBLITERATED by the American TERRORISTS and ILLsrael than follow the most OBVIOUS solutions.

This is in CONTRAST to the Americans.
In fact, you still wrote about EVERY aspect of the American Society being a "team player".

IF they think something is in their best interests, EVERYBODY in government and the media would ABANDON the differences in their Political Ideologies and work together.

Like they did with the Epstein Files.

Biden's Democrat government PROTECTED the PDFiles.

The PDFile's current Republican government is also PROTECTING them.

And whoever comes NEXT will CONTINUE that protection.

Meanwhile, these Iranians CANNOT work together to avoid EXTINCTION.

The MORE I learn about these Iranian Politicians, the more they DISGUST me.
💯

you got it entirely correct




the conservatives simply said
halt negotiations and exchange of messages, there have been too many ceasefire violations
tell them, negotiations resume when violations stop

the reformists stubbornly refused

if they can't accept something that simple and logical
within their purview

how do you want to convince the same people
to race for a nuke, forget about sanctions relief/direct trade with the west for another generation, and turn east




the saddest and possibly the most shocking element of all this

is that the assassination of khamenei i had no material impact on their outlook
at the first chance of rapproachment with the west when the ceasefire proposal was presented
they snatched it without firm guardrails and dragged everyone into their f--11shess masquerading as diplomacy

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 6:47pm On Jun 10
⚡Russia’s top business group has told Putin that the optimal exchange rate for business would be 80–85 rubles to the dollar. It's currently trading at around 71.

Alexander Shokhin, head of the Russian Union of Industrialists and Entrepreneurs, said an overly strong ruble has become a bigger barrier to economic growth than high interest rates.

Central Bank chief Elvira Nabiullina, the main advocate of tight monetary policy and a strong ruble, missed last week’s SPIEF, reportedly due to illness, fueling speculation about a change of direction.

Shokhin added that business hopes Russia’s key rate can fall below 10% by the end of the year.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 6:50pm On Jun 10
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 7:01pm On Jun 10
WriterrNg:
⚡Hamas spokesman Hazem Qassem stated that Iran notified them any truce with the US must include a full halt to fighting in Gaza (plus Lebanon, Iraq, Yemen).
This is a great coordination, the kind that Iran should demand because it holds the aces.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 7:18pm On Jun 10
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Namaster: 7:25pm On Jun 10
LordAdam16:
the saddest and possibly the most shocking element of all this

is that the assassination of khamenei i had no material impact on their outlook
at the first chance of rapproachment with the west when the ceasefire proposal was presented
they snatched it without firm guardrails and dragged everyone into their f--11shess masquerading as diplomacy

-Lord
It SHOCKED and DISAPPOINTED a lot of people.

They MURDERED Khamenei.
MURDERED his wife.
MURDERED his Son.
MURDERED his Son's wife.
MURDERED his grand daughter.

Then MURDERED 150 children inside their school just for FUN.

And this people MOVED on in less than 2 months.
ALL they wanted was just $12 Billion and a roll on the Strait.

The Epstein Regime could NOT believe his luck.
He could have ENDED this with a BIG victory if he just agreed to the INCONSEQUENTIAL requests of the Iranian MOOMOOs.

The way they CASUALLY assassinated their Supreme Leader and his LINEAGE and the Iranians were still willing, and even EAGER, to negotiate a HORRIBLE deal is part of the reasons the American TERRORISTS and the GENOCIDAL State of ILLsrael believe they are the CHOSEN ones.

They have been UNIQUELY blessed with STEWPID adversaries.

MANY people thought Iran would be DIFFERENT.
And they were RIGHT during the first part of the war.

Iran was HITTING them in a way they'd NEVER been hit in nearly a CENTURY.

Then we had to watch in DISMAY as Iran DESTROYED themselves during the "ceasefire".

First of all, the "ceasefire" ENDED immediately JD Vance left Pakistan.

If they did NOT get that memo, the blockade EMPHASISED the resumption of WAR.
EVERYBODY knows a blockade is an act of WAR.

Yet this people still SQUANDERED every opportunity to rectify the NONSENSE.

Meanwhile, the so-called "ceasefire" is being used by the Epstein Regime to massage and moderate their financial markets and economy.

I have GIVEN UP on them.
They will get what they DESERVE.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Watcharena: 7:26pm On Jun 10
This guy should go to Tehran and test his popularity [quote author=WriteerNg post=139677079]]
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WriteerNg:
⚡The IAEA's Board of Governors passed a U.S.-backed resolution demanding Iran disclose the status of its remaining enriched uranium stockpiles and allow inspectors to verify them.

The measure passed 21–3, with Russia, China and Niger voting against.
grin grin grin
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 7:52pm On Jun 10
tonididdy:
Your my brother but I tell all my brothers the truth no matter how bitter it's

You are on the loosing side.
Histroy or his story .. Have shown any one who sides with Germany always loses lol
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 8:01pm On Jun 10
For two consecutive days, the US navy have disabled oil tankers which tried to bypass the blockade!!
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 8:14pm On Jun 10
In broad daylight, russia struck a residential neighborhood in #Kharkiv. Homes were damaged, families were terrorized, and innocent civilians once again came under attack. USA CIA, Casualties have been reported as russia continues its relentless war against Ukraine's military and civilian population.

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