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FxMasterz:
Give me any instance that demonstrates the Jews believe Belzebub was inside Jesus.

The spirit with which Jesus was driving out demons according to them dwells where?🙂

FxMasterz:
The same way you also joined what seemed virtuous to you.
But what seems virtuous to man does not necessarily seem virtuous to God.
To God, "If you have not the Spirit of Christ, you're none of His"

So present a better performing group nah!😂

You have not shown a contradiction. The Qur’an clearly says Adam was created from clay (15:26; 38:71–72). The debate is not about what he was created from, but where the Garden was located. Muslim scholars have held two views: the Garden was either heavenly Paradise or a garden on earth. A difference of interpretation is not a contradiction. The Qur’an never states that Adam was created in Iraq or Mesopotamia. Those are later interpretations, not explicit Qur’anic claims. So asking where the Qur’an says Adam was created actually proves the pointit does not give a specific geographical location.
The real question remains.Even if Adam was created in a heavenly Garden and later descended to earth, how does that prove two permanent classes of saved believers with separate eternal destinations?
Stop deflecting and answer.

MaxInDHouse:
When i told you that your Quran is just one useless and worthless book it may seem as if i was exaggerating things shey?😂

Oya look at where your Quran landed you:





Please where exactly did your Quran say your Allah created Adam and Eve?

Do you now see that you have started disputing with yourself on where Adam and Eve were created?😂

Explore2xmore:
Muslim scholars have held two views:

What a shame?
So when the Bible EXPLICITLY STATES that humans (Adam and Eve) were created on planet earth your Quran is confused as to where exactly the first humans were created yet you are here questioning the Bible?😂

MaxInDHouse:
The spirit with which Jesus was driving out demons according to them dwells where?🙂


So present a better performing group nah!😂

Is the Bible a joke to.you?.If you have not the Spirit of Christ, you are none of His. It was not me who said that.

FxMasterz:
Is the Bible a joke to.you?.If you have not the Spirit of Christ, you are none of His. It was not me who said that.

Continue playing Nollywood movie for yourself.
What concerns me with the useless and worthless spirit that can't associate with faithful people?😂
Ọmọ if you can't mention the name of your church forget that hopeless spirit worrying you irritates me!😂

Thank God say I no join the jesus delulu.
Just following the Torah. And living as intended by the creator.

MaxInDHouse:
Continue playing Nollywood movie for yourself.
What concerns me with the useless and worthless spirit that can't associate with faithful people?😂
Ọmọ if you can't mention the name of your church forget that hopeless spirit worrying you irritates me!😂

Are you judging me?

Do.you have the Holy Spirit in you according to the Scriptures? If you don't, you are none of His according to the Scriptures. If you really want to inherit eternal life, that should concern you than a whole lot of human doctrines.

FxMasterz:
Are you judging me?
Do.you have the Holy Spirit in you according to the Scriptures? If you don't, you are none of His according to the Scriptures. If you really want to inherit eternal life, that should concern you than a whole lot of human doctrines.

You have judged yourself as you have not surrounded yourself with faithful servants of God unitedly doing the will of God. Psalms 1:1
You keep judging God's organization when you have no better replacement!🙂

There's no need for ridicule or valuable arguments to win by that. The issue isn't whether Adam was created from the earth. Muslims affirm that as well.o
Genesis 2:10–14 associates Eden with earthly geography, including the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, so an earthly setting is a reasonable reading of the text. But even if we grant that entirely, it still doesn't answer the question that was raised.
The discussion was never about whether Adam was created on earth. It was about where the Bible explicitly teaches two permanent classes of saved believers with two eternal destinations. Pointing to Adam's creation account doesn't establish that doctrine. It simply changes the subject.
So rather than debating Adam's origin which both traditions affirm return to the actual issue.Where does Scripture explicitly teach two permanent classes of the saved with two permanent eternal destinies?

MaxInDHouse:
What a shame?
So when the Bible EXPLICITLY STATES that humans (Adam and Eve) were created on planet earth your Quran is confused as to where exactly the first humans were created yet you are here questioning the Bible?😂

Imagine both of us never had anything to do with these books and someone is about to convince us to believe what is written in any of the books is it not wise to ask these questions:

1. Where did this Creator intended for humans to live in the beginning?

2. What led to all these troubles?

3. Why do people die and where are they now?

4. What is happening to our dead loved ones?

5. What is God's program for the earth in the future?

6. What will happen to all those who are virtuous?

All these questions and many more are answered in the Bible that is why you need to examine what any of the book says before questioning one simply because of what the other says.

God never intended that man should live in heaven {Psalms 115:16} so earth is the only place habitable for humans because we are made of flesh just like other creatures. Psalms 37:9-11, 29; Proverbs 2:20-22
Heaven is for spirit creatures that is why Jesus promised his corulers whom he wanted to take along with him to heaven {John 14:1-3} that they will no longer live as humans but as spirit beings (angels) in their new destination. Luke 20:34-36

In any society the rulers have their own abode government house so Jesus promised that his corulers will be taken to heaven with him and of course they are limited in number! Revelation 7:5-8; 14:1

This is clear enough if you're not going into unnecessary arguments.

So i purposely exposed your book so that you can see your Quran can't answer any question at all everything is confusing.

When i said no Muslim scholar can use your Quran to answer any question you may think i just said it but now it's been proven! 🙂

Explore2xmore:
There's no need for ridicule or valuable arguments to win by that. The issue isn't whether Adam was created from the earth. Muslims affirm that as well.o
Genesis 2:10–14 associates Eden with earthly geography, including the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, so an earthly setting is a reasonable reading of the text. But even if we grant that entirely, it still doesn't answer the question that was raised.
The discussion was never about whether Adam was created on earth. It was about where the Bible explicitly teaches two permanent classes of saved believers with two eternal destinations. Pointing to Adam's creation account doesn't establish that doctrine. It simply changes the subject.
So rather than debating Adam's origin which both traditions affirm return to the actual issue.Where does Scripture explicitly teach two permanent classes of the saved with two permanent eternal destinies?

MaxInDHouse:
You have judged yourself as you have not surrounded yourself with faithful servants of God unitedly doing the will of God. Psalms 1:1
You keep judging God's organization when you have no better replacement!🙂

You mean I should surround myself with faithful servants of Satan who have not the Spirit of God in them?

I surround myself with faithful servants of God who have the Spirit of God in them. They consist of all blood-washed and Spirit-filled believers in Christ all over the world.

No matter what you surround yourself with, "If you have not the Spirit of Christ, you are none of His".

FxMasterz:
I surround myself with faithful servants of God who have the Spirit of God in them. They consist of all blood-washed and Spirit-filled believers in Christ all over the world..

STORY! STORY!! STORY!!!
And the group name of your gathering is?😂

MaxInDHouse:
STORY! STORY!! STORY!!!
And the group name of your gathering is?😂

The group name of my gathering is The Body of Christ. Jesus gave us His Body. Not denominations or organizations.

Perhaps, you don't understand. Let me show you the Berean version:.

But is this story, story to you:


"You, however, are controlled not by the flesh, but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.". Romans 8:9.

These six questions are reasonable starting points for anyone sincerely seeking to understand revelation. The issue is not about if those questions should be asked, but whether the conclusions being drawn are actually established by the texts. Psalm 115:16 says that the heavens belong to God and the earth is given to mankind. This shows humanity’s earthly existence, but it does not automatically prove that all saved believers must have an eternal earthly destiny.
In fact, the Bible itself contains passages that describe salvation in terms of being with God beyond earthly life. Jesus said in John 14:2–3, in my Father’s house are many dwelling places… I go to prepare a place for you Paul also speaks of a hope laid up for you in heaven; Colossians 1:5, and a citizenship in heaven (Philippians 3:20). These passages show that the biblical picture requires careful examination rather than simply concluding that salvation equals permanent earthly life.
The Qur’anic view is internally consistent. Humanity was created from earthly material, life on earth is a test, death is followed by resurrection and judgment, and the righteous are rewarded with Paradise (Qur’an 2:30, 23:15–16, 67:2, 99:6–8 ). It clearly distinguishes the temporary worldly life from the eternal life to come.
Likewise, Luke 20:34–36 describes the resurrection state as being like the angels in that people no longer marry or die. It does not explicitly establish a separate permanent class of heavenly rulers and earthly subjects.
The government-house analogy also requires more than illustration; it requires clear scriptural evidence. A society having rulers and citizens does not automatically mean the saved are divided into two permanent eternal categories.
The real question, therefore, remains if there are two different groups of saved people with two different eternal destinations, where does Scripture clearly and directly state that distinction? Where does it plainly identify one class as eternally heavenly and another as eternally earthly? Because without a clear biblical statement, the doctrine creates the very confusion it claims to resolve; two saved groups, two final locations, and two different purposes in God’s completed plan. The burden is not to assume the separation it is to prove it from the text.

MaxInDHouse:
Imagine both of us never had anything to do with these books and someone is about to convince us to believe what is written in any of the books is it not wise to ask these questions:

1. Where did this Creator intended for humans to live in the beginning?

2. What led to all these troubles?

3. Why do people die and where are they now?

4. What is happening to our dead loved ones?

5. What is God's program for the earth in the future?

6. What will happen to all those who are virtuous?

All these questions and many more are answered in the Bible that is why you need to examine what any of the book says before questioning one simply because of what the other says.

God never intended that man should live in heaven {Psalms 115:16} so earth is the only place habitable for humans because we are made of flesh just like other creatures. Psalms 37:9-11, 29; Proverbs 2:20-22
Heaven is for spirit creatures that is why Jesus promised his corulers whom he wanted to take along with him to heaven {John 14:1-3} that they will no longer live as humans but as spirit beings (angels) in their new destination. Luke 20:34-36

In any society the rulers have their own abode government house so Jesus promised that his corulers will be taken to heaven with him and of course they are limited in number! Revelation 7:5-8; 14:1

This is clear enough if you're not going into unnecessary arguments.

So i purposely exposed your book so that you can see your Quran can't answer any question at all everything is confusing.

When i said no Muslim scholar can use your Quran to answer any question you may think i just said it but now it's been proven! 🙂

Even if you see the answer you will still argue whereas your Quran can't answer any question.
Psalms 115:16
Told you God gave mankind earth and that is where we are to live forever if we prove to be righteous! Psalms 37:29

What does your own Quran says about the same subject?🙂

Explore2xmore:
Psalm 115:16 says that the heavens belong to God and the earth is given to mankind. This shows humanity’s earthly existence, but it does not automatically prove that all saved believers must have an eternal earthly destiny.

FxMasterz:
The Body of Christ.

Continue deceiving yourself!😂

Different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines are claiming so yet they don't believe the same thing!😂

MaxInDHouse:
Even if you see the answer you will still argue whereas your Quran can't answer any question.
Psalms 115:16
Told you God gave mankind earth and that is where we are to live forever if we prove to be righteous! Psalms 37:29

What does your own Quran says about the same subject?🙂

Don't you understand?
Neither passage you refer to mentions a separate permanent heavenly destination for a numbered ruling group or any segregation . Both passages describe one people inheriting one earth.
The two-class framework is being built on top of these passages, not drawn from them. They are being recruited into a conclusion they do not state.

Do well to address this misnomer.

MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself!😂

Different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines are claiming so yet they don't believe the same thing!😂

At least I believe in my Bible.

Even your own religion too is in contradiction with several others.

So, again:
The group name of my gathering is The Body of Christ. Jesus gave us His Body. Not denominations or organizations.

Perhaps, you don't understand. Let me show you the Berean version:.

But is this story, story to you:


"You, however, are controlled not by the flesh, but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.". Romans 8:9.

What exactly did your own Quran say on the matter?
Bible stated that righteous will inherit the earth so let's hear from your Quran if it can answer any question.
I won't tell you anything again until you quote where your Allah in that your book says the righteous will inherit!🙂

Explore2xmore:
Don't you understand?
Neither passage you refer to mentions a separate permanent heavenly destination for a numbered ruling group or any segregation . Both passages describe one people inheriting one earth.
The two-class framework is being built on top of these passages, not drawn from them. They are being recruited into a conclusion they do not state.
Do well to address this misnomer.

FxMasterz:
Even your own religion too is in contradiction with several others.

Because our God (Jehovah) differ from your God and our Christ (Jesus) differ from yours.
But when you know that thousands of different religions claiming body of Christ are contradicting themselves it's necessary to specify yours among them so that we can know the real body of the Christ you're talking about because i believe the real body of Christ doesn't contradicting herself!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Because our God (Jehovah) differs from your God and our Christ (Jesus) differ from yours.
But when you know that thousands of different religions claiming body of Christ are contradicting themselves it's necessary to specify yours among them so that we can know the real body of the Christ you're talking about because i believe the real body of Christ doesn't contradicting herself!🙂

Yes, your god is actually Lucifer and not Jehovah. Jehovah is Light, and in Hin is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

"Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning." James 1:17.

Your many doctrinal variables and numerous shadows of turning with somasaultimg new lights shows you serve Lucifer and not Jehovah. You're false witnesses.

But, most importantly, do not deceive yourself.

"Whoever has not the Spirit of Christ, does not belong to Him."

FxMasterz:
Yes, your god is actually Lucifer and not Jehovah. Jehovah is Light, and in Hin is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

No wonder we are united just as Jesus foretold about his real family in faith {John 17:22 compare to 1Corinthans 1:10} he said we will be called worshipers of Satan if we are truly his disciples {Matthew 10:24-25} but funny enough you can't single out your own fellow worshipers among thousands of different religions contradicting themselves whereas my own is globally identified as one body of like minded believers! Matthew 5:14-16😂

What the Quran says has been stated so no need to repeat the eternal end of al-jannah or jahannam. The issue from your submission is two different classes of people inheriting the earth or heaven which isn't your scripture bound.

MaxInDHouse:
What exactly did your own Quran say on the matter?
Bible stated that righteous will inherit the earth so let's hear from your Quran if it can answer any question.
I won't tell you anything again until you quote where your Allah in that your book says the righteous will inherit!🙂

Funny religion that can't stand on its own unless it lean on another wants to condemn the only book they are using as the supporting tool!😂

How can a Muslim who believes in that book that can't answer any question in a straightforward manner question the Bible?🙂

Explore2xmore:
What the Quran says has been stated so no need to repeat the eternal end of al-jannah or jahannam.

Where is Jannah, heaven or earth?🤣

Two destinations:

1. For the few chosen to rule with Christ:

“Do not let your hearts be troubled. Exercise faith in God; exercise faith also in me. In the house of my Father (heaven) are many dwelling places. Otherwise, I would have told you, for I am going my way to prepare a place for you. Also, if I go my way and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will receive you home to myself, so that where I am you also may be"

2. For all other righteous servants of God who aren't part of the chosen:

The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it! Psalms 37:29

How many are the CHOSEN?

Then I saw, and look! the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who have his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads. Revelation 14:1

What about rest of the righteous?

And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare to those who dwell on the earth, to every nation and tribe and tongue and people. Revelation 14:6

One funny religionist whose book can't answer any question will be questioning the Bible! 🙂

I abandoned Islam when i discovered it can't answer any question about how we got here? what we are doing here? and where we will be in the future?🙂

You've actually illustrated the point: your interpretation requires two classes of saved people with two different eternal destinies.
John 14 says believers will be with Christ, and Psalm 37:29 says the righteous inherit the earth. But none of the passages cited explicitly state that only 144,000 go to heaven while all other righteous believers are confined to the earth.
Revelation 14 mentions the 144,000 with the Lamb, but it never says they alone inherit heaven. More importantly, Revelation ends with God dwelling among mankind, not with two permanently separated classes of the saved (Revelation 21:1–3).
So the question remains: where does the Bible explicitly teach two distinct groups of saved believers with different eternal inheritances?

MaxInDHouse:
Where is Jannah, heaven or earth?🤣

Two destinations:

1. For the few chosen to rule with Christ:

“Do not let your hearts be troubled. Exercise faith in God; exercise faith also in me. In the house of my Father (heaven) are many dwelling places. Otherwise, I would have told you, for I am going my way to prepare a place for you. Also, if I go my way and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will receive you home to myself, so that where I am you also may be"

2. For all other righteous servants of God who aren't part of the chosen:

The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it! Psalms 37:29

How many are the CHOSEN?

Then I saw, and look! the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who have his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads. Revelation 14:1

What about rest of the righteous?

And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare to those who dwell on the earth, to every nation and tribe and tongue and people. Revelation 14:6

One funny religionist whose book can't answer any question will be questioning the Bible! 🙂

Explore2xmore:
None of the passages cited EXPLICITLY state that only 144,000 go to heaven while all other righteous believers are CONFINED to the earth.

See the problem with you?🤣
How can you be expecting all answers you want regarding a subject matter to be EXPLICITLY written in just one verse but when i throw similar questions to you your Quran can't even answer at all?

Ọmọ the earth is the place God created for humans as permanent abode {Psalms 115:16} that's why i keep asking you to make you use of your Quran and reason because God had no plan for humans in heaven!

So withdraw the word CONFINED earth is where God designed for humans not heaven!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
No wonder we are united just as Jesus foretold about his real family in faith {John 17:22 compare to 1Corinthans 1:10} he said we will be called worshipers of Satan if we are truly his disciples {Matthew 10:24-25} but funny enough you can't single out your own fellow worshipers among thousands of different religions contradicting themselves whereas my own is globally identified as one body of like minded believers! Matthew 5:14-16😂

See, unity is not a yardstick for salvation. Witches, armed robbers, Bandits, gangs and all cults have unity. One thing they cannot have is the Spirit of God. And that's the differentiator. Any group can have unity. But not just any group can have the Spirit of God.

The Bible already forewarned us about your likes. If God's Word is not valuable to you above all human doctrine, you're already a worshipper of Satan. And when you add lies and falsehoods and call them doctrines, what do you think you are?

See how I have been sounding the Word of God to you but you turned dead ears. Who is your master? Definitely, not God. If God was your Master you'll take His Word serious when He said:

"Whoever has not the Spirit of Christ, does not belong to Him."

FxMasterz:
See, unity is not a yardstick for salvation. Witches, armed robbers, Bandits, gangs and all cults have unity.

You people are perishing because you have no knowledge! Hosea 6:4

Do witches, armed robbers, Bandits and gangs work together for peaceful coexistence of mankind as Jesus taught his disciples? Matthew 28:19-20

Do witches, armed robbers, Bandits and gangs preach from house to house and door to door as Jesus commanded his disciples? Matthew 10:11-13

Do witches, armed robbers, Bandits and gangs live peacefully in our society as Jesus commanded his disciples? Matthew 10:16

You said you're not a liar yet you frown at the most peaceful group Jesus formed even telling them to laid down their lives when bandits comes to attack them in opposition to what Jesus commanded them to flee! Matthew 10:23

Guy stop deceiving yourself i never accuse you of being a satanist all i'm saying is your God differ from our God and your Jesus differ from our own!🙂