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What Is Wrong With Obidients? by richmond500(op): 6:20pm On Jun 11
NDC gave you the presidential ticket unopposed, you didn't complain.

It decide to handle media and you are insulting Dickson.

Are u expecting a man to register a party and hand everything to u because you u decamped to the party?

The problem is that Obi can't even control his supporters, and that is why Aisha could box him to a corner and divert funds meant for his election. Money that party was supposed to control , you embezzled it and till this day you can't explain how campaign funds were spent.

If you are not Ok with NDC's decision, please leave the party and forget 2027, but until then, please respect the party's authority.

Dickson doesn't need you to win senatorial seat, but you need NDC to win presidential seat. Be informed before u drown
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by HacheNoire: 6:31pm On Jun 11
When you read through the books of revelations you get to know the truth about Obidients.

The Bible called them the BEAST.
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by givedemwotowoto:
HacheNoire:
When you read through the books of revelations you get to know the truth about Obidients.

The Bible called them the BEAST.
lol those guys are real "beasts", the type Nigeria needs to devour and destroy these terr***sts and bandits who have taken over the country from the current clueless leaders.
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by givedemwotowoto: 6:39pm On Jun 11
richmond500:
NDC gave you the presidential ticket unopposed, you didn't complain.

It decide to handle media and you are insulting Dickson.

Are u expecting a man to register a party and hand everything to u because you u decamped to the party?

The problem is that Obi can't even control his supporters, and that is why Aisha could box him to a corner and divert funds meant for his election. Money that party was supposed to control , you embezzled it and till this day you can't explain how campaign funds were spent.

If you are not Ok with NDC's decision, please leave the party and forget 2027, but until then, please respect the party's authority.

Dickson doesn't need you to win senatorial seat, but you need NDC to win presidential seat. Be informed before u drown
NDC needs Obidients and Kwankwasiyya to grow, and it has achieved that growth. This is a mutual partnership.

No need for blame game, there is need to hear all parties and settle interests.

NDC should manage interests amicably to avoid repeating what happened to LP.

Obidients have long existed within other political parties like PDP that flourished, long before LP and NDC, so this is not an Obidient issue.

In fact, I would argue that it was the exit of the Obidients that collapsed the PDP, so this group was pivotal to the strength and dominance of the PDP for 16 years.
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by FSBoperator: 7:05pm On Jun 11
richmond500:
NDC gave you the presidential ticket unopposed, you didn't complain.

It decide to handle media and you are insulting Dickson.

Are u expecting a man to register a party and hand everything to u because you u decamped to the party?

The problem is that Obi can't even control his supporters, and that is why Aisha could box him to a corner and divert funds meant for his election. Money that party was supposed to control , you embezzled it and till this day you can't explain how campaign funds were spent.

If you are not Ok with NDC's decision, please leave the party and forget 2027, but until then, please respect the party's authority.

Dickson doesn't need you to win senatorial seat, but you need NDC to win presidential seat. Be informed before u drown
People that were calling for military take over is whom you think are expected to behave normally ?

They are not in any form a democratic movement seeking to better Nigeria.

Everything about then mirrors the Jewish Bolshevik movement that thrived in causing chaos and promoting anarchy.


People often make the mistake of labelling fascists .

They are not fascists and there is nothing wrong about fascism.

They are all round Marxists like their Zikists predecessors.

They don't believe in democracy nor the rule of the law hence why they also have been demonizing democracy and the Judiciary.

They are and will remain an Anarcho-Matxist movement hoping to instil a communist style system that is not answerable to anyone but themselves and their supreme leader .
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by richmond500(op): 7:06pm On Jun 11
givedemwotowoto:
NDC needs Obidients and Kwankwasiyya to grow, and it has achieved that growth. This is a mutual partnership.

No need for blame game, there is need to hear all parties and settle interests.

NDC should manage interests amicably to avoid repeating what happened to LP.

Obidients have long existed within other political parties like PDP that flourished, long before LP and NDC, so this is not an Obidient issue.

In fact, I would argue that it was the exit of the Obidients that collapsed the PDP, so this group was pivotal to the strength and dominance of the PDP for 16 years.
Dickson created NDC when he knew that PDP is collapsing for his own political career.

Obi X kwankwasor came to Dickson to allow him use the party to push his ambition, he agreed to let Obi use the party.
Why then does Obidients wants to control the party?
This is not how to pay the party that gave u the platform to contest. Respect it, they helped u
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by FSBoperator: 7:08pm On Jun 11
givedemwotowoto:
NDC needs Obidients and Kwankwasiyya to grow, and it has achieved that growth. This is a mutual partnership.

No need for blame game, there is need to hear all parties and settle interests.

NDC should manage interests amicably to avoid repeating what happened to LP.

Obidients have long existed within other political parties like PDP that flourished, long before LP and NDC, so this is not an Obidient issue.

In fact, I would argue that it was the exit of the Obidients that collapsed the PDP, so this group was pivotal to the strength and dominance of the PDP for 16 years.
NDC was hoping to replicate the top to bottom voting pattern Obidients did for LP in 2023 but this time around only for Kwankwaso and Dickson handpicked loyalists.

The only reason Aisha and co are rebelling is because Dickson insisted on this format and took away their control of future campaign funds management.

They are all crooks and opportunists .
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by FSBoperator: 7:11pm On Jun 11
richmond500:
Dickson created NDC when he knew that PDP is collapsing for his own political career.

Obi X kwankwasor came to Dickson to allow him use the party to push his ambition, he agreed to let Obi use the party.
Why then does Obidients wants to control the party?
This is not how to pay the party that gave u the platform to contest. Respect it, they helped u
Every other political party save ADC and NDC rejected Obi.

ADC only accepted him to be caged .

NDC accepted him to use obidient mob to vote Kwankwasso and Dickson's loyalists into elective positions .


They played Obidients like a flute .

If e sure for the obidients that wanted to contest under NDC that they have the support on ground , why didn't they try that under any other party ?
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by givedemwotowoto: 7:14pm On Jun 11
FSBoperator:
NDC was hoping to replicate the top to bottom voting pattern Obidients did for LP in 2023 but this time around only for Kwankwaso and Dickson handpicked loyalists.

The only reason Aisha and co are rebelling is because Dickson insisted on this format and took away their control of future campaign funds management.

They are all crooks and opportunists .
Obidients come from a culture of democracy, which means they don’t like handpicked leaders. In fact, Peter Obi didn’t create the Obidient group, it’s the other way around. Obidients chose Peter Obi.

Anyone partnering with Obidients should respect this. Obidients don’t do Kingship and lording over people, it’s a culture and core of the group.

A leader shouldn’t handpick someone just because the person has served them, they should choose a someone approved and supported by the people. This is why Aisha was upset, because the leader shouldn’t have been handpicked. She still respected the decision for the interest of the greater good, regardless.
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by richmond500(op): 7:24pm On Jun 11
givedemwotowoto:
Obidients come from a culture of democracy, which means they don’t like handpicked leaders. In fact, Peter Obi didn’t create the Obidient group, it’s the other way around. Obidients chose Peter Obi.

Anyone partnering with Obidients should respect this. Obidients don’t do Kingship and lording over people, it’s a culture and core of the group.
Dickson didn't beg to partner with Obidients, he would have been fine without Obi.
NDC was created to provide a platform with which he will contest his senatorial seat and he would have won, he doesn't need to win presidency, he also don't need governorship.

Obi was the one who went to him, so don't tell him to comply with ur demands, you should comply with his cos u are the one that needs him not the other way round
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by givedemwotowoto: 7:36pm On Jun 11
richmond500:
Dickson didn't beg to partner with Obidients, he would have been fine without Obi.
NDC was created to provide a platform with which he will contest his senatorial seat and he would have won, he doesn't need to win presidency, he also don't need governorship.

Obi was the one who went to him, so don't tell him to comply with ur demands, you should comply with his cos u are the one that needs him not the other way round
You don’t go to open and maintain offices in 24 of the 36 states of the Nigeria just to represent your people in Bayelsa state at the senate. You can simply run for senate from an existing political party

You’re only focused on blaming Obidients even if they have a point. That’s called prejudice or hate.

You can’t partner with a large group, much larger than you are, and start whining that they’re dominating the party. Yes because they’re a big group, bigger than your number before they joined. Deal with it.

“Obidients please come and take over my own party. Take every ounce of it, let’s agree on a new constitution. Just pay my membership dues and let’s grow and start winning together.” This is the prayer of many small parties, but NDC was chosen.
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by richmond500(op): 7:46pm On Jun 11
givedemwotowoto:
You don’t go to open and maintain offices in 24 of the 36 states of the Nigeria just to represent your people in Bayelsa state at the senate. You can simply run for senate from an existing political party

You’re only focused on blaming Obidients even if they have a point. That’s called prejudice or hate.
I am not focused on blaming Obidients.
All these matter started because the party decided who will run the media.
Why can't Obidients respect the decision of the party?

U were under the rain, someone provided u umbrella, but immediately u got the shade, u decide to tear down the umbrella cos u don't like the person holding the umbrella.
E get some things ona no suppose do na.
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by givedemwotowoto: 7:54pm On Jun 11
richmond500:
I am not focused on blaming Obidients.
All these matter started because the party decided who will run the media.
Why can't Obidients respect the decision of the party?

U were under the rain, someone provided u umbrella, but immediately u got the shade, u decide to tear down the umbrella cos u don't like the person holding the umbrella.
E get some things ona no suppose do na.
This is a very false picture. NDC should be grateful and proud to be chosen by Obidients. Many political parties would love to be in their shoes rather than be small and never win elections.

Obidients are a much bigger group than the old NDC. You can’t partner with a shark to fight another shark, then complain that the shark is dominating the fight. Yes dude, because the shark is big!

“Obidients please come and take over my own party. Take every ounce of it, let’s agree on a new constitution. Just pay my membership dues and let’s grow and start winning together.” This is the prayer of many small parties, but NDC was chosen.
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by givedemwotowoto: 8:01pm On Jun 11
richmond500:
I am not focused on blaming Obidients.
All these matter started because the party decided who will run the media.
Why can't Obidients respect the decision of the party?

U were under the rain, someone provided u umbrella, but immediately u got the shade, u decide to tear down the umbrella cos u don't like the person holding the umbrella.
E get some things ona no suppose do na.
Why can’t Obidients respect the party? How do you choose someone from nowhere who is not liked by over 6 million people, to represent them? How can that person represent 6 million voices that he doesn’t agree with?

Or you think the NDC is still that small party that Akpabio was laughing at when he announced on the senate floor?

You see, you can run your small business and do whatever you like and remain small, but once you agree to go public and put it on the stock market, you’re now answerable to the shareholders, you don’t get the exclusive privilege of doing whatever you want

That’s why some CEOs get fired or replaced from the companies they founded
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by SixSeven: 8:19pm On Jun 11
givedemwotowoto:
Why can’t Obidients respect the party? How do you choose someone from nowhere who is not liked by over 6 million people, to represent them? How can that person represent 6 million voices that he doesn’t agree with?

Or you think the NDC is still that small party that Akpabio was laughing at when he announced on the senate floor?

You see, you can run your small business and do whatever you like and remain small, but once you agree to go public and put it on the stock market, you’re now answerable to the shareholders, you don’t get the exclusive privilege of doing whatever you want

That’s why some CEOs get fired or replaced from the companies they founded
I'm just observing because the way NDC will handle this will show whether they learned from LP or not. Our people gave been psyoped to crude politics they think it makes sense and they call it "we will teach you politics". That's not politics, that's slavery and compliance. Obama wasn't the choice of the Democrats but once the party saw the direction his youth campaign was going, they closed ranks and made it a success for their own party. I was explaining to another person that you can't just bully your base into silence and expect them to love you. If Jesutega was alive, he would have told us how the APC fold were not happy with Bwala, Reno and Wike appointments. But they want to brand this in a way that fits their script. It will take the momentum from their party if they let a distraction like this take centre stage. Their opponents will use it to mock them and that's what they want, they want cruise and distraction rather than focusing on administration and governance, something the ruling party should be saying to justify why they want a second term

SixSeven:
Jesutega made us know that they were not happy with those appointments. They felt that Bwala and Omokri who abused the president got rewarded while they were supposed to look the other way. It's no politics, people are just pretending.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ugmxy2CnUd0

Tinubu may do it for politics but it doesn't mean they like it. For Wike they were even more vocal about it, especially the Lagos chapter. Even with the President's obvious support for Wike, they still warned him during their primaries that he is not welcome to APC. Why do you think the APC Chairman said no more appointments for non APC members this January?
This is like how Budweiser went to use a Trans influencer for their campaign and the loyal fans decided to boycott it. No one told them to change it when sales dropped

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7225956679840468267

Your base is showing you receipts of the person you appointed to galvanize them and you are saying you want to show them politics. Okay, show them, Na who go lose. Even Bwala knows he is facing heat because core loyalists of the President don't want him there and they make it clear that he is on his own. The Medhi interview showed us that.
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by richmond500(op): 8:21pm On Jun 11
givedemwotowoto:
Why can’t Obidients respect the party? How do you choose someone from nowhere who is not liked by over 6 million people, to represent them? How can that person represent 6 million voices that he doesn’t agree with?

Or you think the NDC is still that small party that Akpabio was laughing at when he announced on the senate floor?

You see, you can run your small business and do whatever you like and remain small, but once you agree to go public and put it on the stock market, you’re now answerable to the shareholders, you don’t get the exclusive privilege of doing whatever you want

That’s why some CEOs get fired or replaced from the companies they founded
The shareholders employed you, but now u want to rubbish the company cos u don't like the shareholders.
When they are fed up with ur rubbish, they will fire you and nothing will happen.

It was Obi that went to Dickson house begging for the ticket in Bayelsa, Dickson has never gone to Obis house.
After collecting the ticket, u now also want to decide who gets what in that party.
U will never see the wrong in ur actions
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by givedemwotowoto: 8:25pm On Jun 11
richmond500:
The shareholders employed you, but now u want to rubbish the company cos u don't like the shareholders.
When they are fed up with ur rubbish, they will fire you and nothing will happen.

It was Obi that went to Dickson house begging for the ticket in Bayelsa, Dickson has never gone to Obis house.
After collecting the ticket, u now also want to decide who gets what in that party.
U will never see the wrong in ur actions
You got the idea all wrong and twisted, have you run a business or invested in one before?

NDC and Dickson are the small business. They started small, like any small business.

At some point, investors approached him, seeing the potential in taking his business to the next level. (Or perhaps he approached investors, seeking to partner with them to grow his company. This part is not the important part, it doesn't matter who approached, don't focus on the wrong thing).

He sees the potential and agrees, and sells shares to 6 million+ people.

Once he does that, he can't unilaterally take decisions again as a small business, it needs to be approved by the new board representing the shareholders.
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by ABBkelvin(m): 8:28pm On Jun 11
givedemwotowoto:
Why can’t Obidients respect the party? How do you choose someone from nowhere who is not liked by over 6 million people, to represent them? How can that person represent 6 million voices that he doesn’t agree with?

Or you think the NDC is still that small party that Akpabio was laughing at when he announced on the senate floor?

You see, you can run your small business and do whatever you like and remain small, but once you agree to go public and put it on the stock market, you’re now answerable to the shareholders, you don’t get the exclusive privilege of doing whatever you want

That’s why some CEOs get fired or replaced from the companies they founded
Going over the thread and reading through your back and forth with Richmond, I will let you know that your method will not work yet in a nigeria setting.

Some method of optimization of a system are mostly going to be embedded in the system such that the outcome won't be out of range of expected value of such system. Nigeria politics is not yet ripe to the level we can be using standardized IQ range of 120-140 to define simply because the average IQ of Nigeria as a nation is about 70 therefore, your method of solution won't work on existing political maneuvering we are operating currently in Nigeria.

Obidients must still follow the old order to get there first or else the same things that has happened in all previous party that obidient has gotten involved in will keep cycling back and there won't be anyway out.

If you want obidients to stop hitting the wall with each party they get involve with, they must comply by following the set rule on ground, such that when they gain political win, they can now modified the system for a change. You can't change what's is already working for people no matter how trashy yoh think that work is. To achieve a major change you have to either kill the old order or behave like them to steal power and then change what you want to change. The Obidients method can't work from the position they always wish to start from, none of that has ever work in history unless you truncate the said government through violence.

My piece
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by givedemwotowoto: 8:32pm On Jun 11
ABBkelvin:
Going over the thread and reading through your back and forth with Richmond, I will let you know that your method will not work yet in a nigeria setting.

Some method of optimization of a system are mostly going to be embedded in the system such that the outcome won't be out of range of expected value of such system. Nigeria politics is not yet ripe to the level we can be using standardized IQ range of 120-140 to define simply because the average IQ of Nigeria as a nation is about 70 therefore, your method of solution won't work on existing political maneuvering we are operating currently in Nigeria.

Obidient must still follow the old order to get there first or else the same things that has happened in all previous party that obidient has gotten involved in will keep cycling back and there won't be anyway out.

If you want obidient to stop hitting the wall with each party they get involve with, they must comply by following the set rule on ground, such that when they gain political win, they can now modified the system for a change. You can't change what's is already working for people no matter how trashy yoh think that work is. To achieve a major change you have to either kill the old order or behave like them to steal power and then change what you want to change. The Obidient method can't work from the position they always wish to start from, none of that has ever work in history unless you truncate the said government through violence.

My piece
Obidients have been in existence under PDP since 1999 and the party thrived with them for 16 years. The principle I described worked for the PDP. You're trying to impose a crude principle alien to their core values.
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by richmond500(op): 8:33pm On Jun 11
givedemwotowoto:
You got the idea all wrong and twisted, have you run a business or invested in one before?

NDC and Dickson are the small business. They started small, like any small business.

At some point, investors approached him, seeing the potential in taking his business to the next level. (Or perhaps he approached investors, seeking to partner with them to grow his company. This part is not the important part, it doesn't matter who approached, don't focus on the wrong thing).

He sees the potential and agrees, and sells shares to 6 million+ people.

Once he does that, he can't unilaterally take decisions again as a small business, it needs to be approved by the new board representing the shareholders.
Dont get it twisted, Dickson never asked Obi to come, Obi saw potential in NDC and applied, they employed u and now u want to decide for the shareholders(struxture of the party)
The NDC structure is the shareholders, not Obidients, u were just employed and can easily be expelled from the party any day they get tired of u.

If Dickson had not handled this party well, Obi wouldn't have seen a platform to contest, Dickson strategically moved headquarters to his own house, to avoid Wike and Abuja police.

Even Obi could not handle labour Party this good, Today u saw a party that was well handled and positioned and you want to overtake.
Kilode, if u don't like the party, move out, but alas u can't, cos u will be the biggest loser
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by DomPerignon: 8:42pm On Jun 11
richmond500:
Dont get it twisted, Dickson never asked Obi to come, Obi saw potential in NDC and applied, they employed u and now u want to decide for the shareholders(struxture of the party)
The NDC structure is the shareholders, not Obidients, u were just employed and can easily be expelled from the party any day they get tired of u.

If Dickson had not handled this party well, Obi wouldn't have seen a platform to contest, Dickson strategically moved headquarters to his own house, to avoid Wike and Abuja police.

Even Obi could not handle labour Party this good, Today u saw a party that was well handled and positioned and you want to overtake.
Kilode, if u don't like the party, move out, but alas u can't, cos u will be the biggest loser
You forgot to tell him how Obi was behind the attempt to remove Abure as LP national chairman because Abure demanded an audit of the campaign funds from Aisha and her fellow crooks on the obidient party.
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by givedemwotowoto: 8:43pm On Jun 11
SixSeven:
I'm just observing because the way NDC will handle this will show whether they learned from LP or not. Our people gave been psyoped to crude politics they think it makes sense and they call it "we will teach you politics". That's not politics, that's slavery and compliance. Obama wasn't the choice of the Democrats but once the party saw the direction his youth campaign was going, they closed ranks and made it a success for their own party. I was explaining to another person that you can't just bully your base into silence and expect them to love you. If Jesutega was alive, he would have told us how the APC fold were not happy with Bwala, Reno and Wike appointments. But they want to brand this in a way that fits their script. It will take the momentum from their party if they let a distraction like this take centre stage. Their opponents will use it to mock them and that's what they want, they want cruise and distraction rather than focusing on administration and governance, something the ruling party should be saying to justify why they want a second term

This is like how Budweiser went to use a Trans influencer for their campaign and the loyal fans decided to boycott it. No one told them to change it when sales dropped

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7225956679840468267

Your base is showing you receipts of the person you appointed to galvanize them and you are saying you want to show them politics. Okay, show them, Na who go lose. Even Bwala knows he is facing heat because core loyalists of the President don't want him there and they make it clear that he is on his own. The Medhi interview showed us that.
If they do nothing about it despite the pressure from the base, then the problem I see here is greed. Somebody is a nobody, a small fish fighting in small waters. They're approached by a bigger fish, and suddenly their profile rises, they become one of the most feared fish duo in the ocean, a place they couldn't swim previously. Then the enemy approaches with this multimillion dollar offer that he has never before seen before, and greed sets in. He's now thinking of now rather than the future.
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by richmond500(op): 8:45pm On Jun 11
givedemwotowoto:
If they do nothing about it despite the pressure from the base, then the problem I see here is greed. Somebody is a nobody, a small fish fighting in small waters. They're approached by a bigger fish, and suddenly their profile rises, they become one of the most feared fish duo in the ocean, a place they couldn't swim previously. Then the enemy approaches with this multimillion dollar offer that he has never before seen before, and greed sets in. He's now thinking of now rather than the future.
If Obi and NDC part ways, who do you think will be the biggest loser?

Ofcks u already know
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by ABBkelvin(m): 8:45pm On Jun 11
SixSeven:
I'm just observing because the way NDC will handle this will show whether they learned from LP or not. Our people gave been psyoped to crude politics they think it makes sense and they call it "we will teach you politics". That's not politics, that's slavery and compliance. Obama wasn't the choice of the Democrats but once the party saw the direction his youth campaign was going, they closed ranks and made it a success for their own party. I was explaining to another person that you can't just bully your base into silence and expect them to love you. If Jesutega was alive, he would have told us how the APC fold were not happy with Bwala, Reno and Wike appointments. But they want to brand this in a way that fits their script. It will take the momentum from their party if they let a distraction like this take centre stage. Their opponents will use it to mock them and that's what they want, they want cruise and distraction rather than focusing on administration and governance, something the ruling party should be saying to justify why they want a second term



This is like how Budweiser went to use a Trans influencer for their campaign and the loyal fans decided to boycott it. No one told them to change it when sales dropped

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7225956679840468267

Your base is showing you receipts of the person you appointed to galvanize them and you are saying you want to show them politics. Okay, show them, Na who go lose. Even Bwala knows he is facing heat because core loyalists of the President don't want him there and they make it clear that he is on his own. The Medhi interview showed us that.
The thing is Obidients will never have their way with the politics they practice in Nigeria. They will always turn up high in any election outcome, but it will be difficult for them to win presidential election for one major reason, they fail to factor in the type of people Nigerians are in general which is Nigerians love respect for the elderly and hierarchical structure, Obidients want to erase this and they will have to sweat blood before this can come to reality unless they are ready for revolution.

Senator Dickson is a product of a political system we run in Nigeria, why you guys will expect him to be different from his peers is what baffle me the most. The existing political parties, politician and ideology won't change for you guys unless you start from scratch and work your way up to the top after several years of continuous effort in your new method of solution to Nigeria problem, if you persist to keep merging with the old order I can assure you that you will not win any major election simply because kerosene and water will never mix.

In summary, stop working with old order if you want to change Nigeria political landscape or else they will keep telling you that you met them there.
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by DomPerignon: 8:51pm On Jun 11
ABBkelvin:
The thing is Obidients will never have their way with the politics they practice in Nigeria. They will always turn up high in any election outcome, but it will be difficult for them to win presidential election for one major reason, they fail to factor in the type of people Nigerians are in general which is Nigerians love respect for the elderly and hierarchical structure, Obidients want to erase this and they will have to sweat blood before this can come to reality unless they are ready for revolution.

Senator Dickson is a product of a political system we run in Nigeria, why you guys will expect him to be different from his peers is what baffle me the most. The existing political parties, politician and ideology won't change for you guys unless you start from scratch and work your way up to the top after several years of continuous effort in your new method of solution to Nigeria problem, if you persist to keep merging with the old order I can assure you that you will not win any major election simply because kerosene and water will never mix.

In summary, stop working with old order if you want to change Nigeria political landscape or else they will keep telling you that you met them there.
A case of new wine into old wine skins.
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by richmond500(op): 8:51pm On Jun 11
ABBkelvin:
The thing is Obidients will never have their way with the politics they practice in Nigeria. They will always turn up high in any election outcome, but it will be difficult for them to win presidential election for one major reason, they fail to factor in the type of people Nigerians are in general which is Nigerians love respect for the elderly and hierarchical structure, Obidients want to erase this and they will have to sweat blood before this can come to reality unless they are ready for revolution.

Senator Dickson is a product of a political system we run in Nigeria, why you guys will expect him to be different from his peers is what baffle me the most. The existing political parties, politician and ideology won't change for you guys unless you start from scratch and work your way up to the top after several years of continuous effort in your new method of solution to Nigeria problem, if you persist to keep merging with the old order I can assure you that you will not win any major election simply because kerosene and water will never mix.

In summary, stop working with old order if you want to change Nigeria political landscape or else they will keep telling you that you met them there.
This is not about old order.
NDC was well positioned, Obidients just came in and want to decide.

The reason Obi choose the party is because it was the most reliable at that time, so why change something that was working, when you couldn't make ur own LP work?

LP, PDP and ADC took everything from u and gave u nothing, u cried and NDC welcomed u, gave u the highest seat and u still want to collect everything.
What sort of selfish and ungrateful people are they?
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by ABBkelvin(m): 8:52pm On Jun 11
givedemwotowoto:
Obidients have been in existence under PDP since 1999 and the party thrived with them for 16 years. The principle I described worked for the PDP. You're trying to impose a crude principle alien to their core values.
90 percent of people in Obidients right now are born after year 1996, what do you mean that Obidients are following PDP old mantra? Haha this is very funny to me sha. Forget about PDP here and look more inward on how to proffer solution to Nigeria problem from the perspective of getting effective change on how Obidients conduct their ideology in way that quickly either surrender to the old order by pretending to be on their side or do the strenuous work of building a political platform from scratch which will take years before, it materialize to expected future shaping leadership in all ramifications when it comes to pushing political ideology.

Obidients are not PDP members, they are young adult with blood boiling reality due to trash they met on ground.
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by Kanwulia: 8:58pm On Jun 11
Yes! Because OBIKWAN was the NDC choice unopposed. Where was NDC before OBIKWAN?🙄


We joined NDC because of OBIKWAN, NOT YOU!🌹


Why did Dickson not run as presidential aspirant in NDC against OBI if he is so popular? After collecting bribes like Abure did to substitute candidates at midnight, you want to hang it on OBI’s neck.😂

You fail! If you give US candidates we did not nominate, WE WILL VOTE AGAINST THEM!😍

Now you want obidients and kwankwasiyas to be integrated into NDC? How?😁

Obidients and Kwankwasiyas are only supporting Obi and Kwankwaso because THEY ARE THE PEOPLES’ CHOICE.

Anyone imposed on us WILL FAIL. LP will not happen to us TWICE.

If you don’t gerrit, forget abourrrrit.🍷
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by SixSeven: 9:01pm On Jun 11
ABBkelvin:
The thing is Obidients will never have their way with the politics they practice in Nigeria. They will always turn up high in any election outcome, but it will be difficult for them to win presidential election for one major reason, they fail to factor in the type of people Nigerians are in general which is Nigerians love respect for the elderly and hierarchical structure, Obidients want to erase this and they will have to sweat blood before this can come to reality unless they are ready for revolution.

Senator Dickson is a product of a political system we run in Nigeria, why you guys will expect him to be different from his peers is what baffle me the most. The existing political parties, politician and ideology won't change for you guys unless you start from scratch and work your way up to the top after several years of continuous effort in your new method of solution to Nigeria problem, if you persist to keep merging with the old order I can assure you that you will not win any major election simply because kerosene and water will never mix.

In summary, stop working with old order if you want to change Nigeria political landscape or else they will keep telling you that you met them there.
I hear you and I think this is why they are different. The same type of politics we have done for years and has gotten us nowhere better, if they are consistent with their standards I will respect them for that. At least they are known for something. The EFF in South Africa, I don't like every of their style but I know them for something. The one I don't like is the ones who will pretend to be something else and when the situation changes, they look the other way.

There is no generation that did not go aluta including the ones we have in power today when they were young so when people criticise the young ones, I smh because the hypocrisy stinks. Moreover ever since APC came to power, organized labour has died. From student unions to labour unions to civil society, they have all been infiltrated.
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by SixSeven: 9:07pm On Jun 11
richmond500:
This is not about old order.
NDC was well positioned, Obidients just came in and want to decide.

The reason Obi choose the party is because it was the most reliable at that time, so why change something that was working, when you couldn't make ur own LP work?

LP, PDP and ADC took everything from u and gave u nothing, u cried and NDC welcomed u, gave u the highest seat and u still want to collect everything.
What sort of selfish and ungrateful people are they?
You and I know that NDC was not well positioned nationally until both Obi and Kwankwaso moved there. Let's be honest at least with that. It's one of the reasons Akpabio could mock the party.
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by DomPerignon: 9:08pm On Jun 11
ABBkelvin:
90 percent of people in Obidients right now are born after year 1996, what do you mean that Obidients are following PDP old mantra? Haha this is very funny to me sha. Forget about PDP here and look more inward on how to proffer solution to Nigeria problem from the perspective of getting effective change on how Obidients conduct their ideology in way that quickly either surrender to the old order by pretending to be on their side or do the strenuous work of building a political platform from scratch which will take years before, it materialize to expected future shaping leadership in all ramifications when it comes to pushing political ideology.

Obidients are not PDP members, they are young adult with blood boiling reality due to trash they met on ground.
Hot blooded youngsters led this country into a bloody civil war.

If you think you know better than the older wiser ones, who are guided by the very delicate and fragile multicultural nature of Nigeria that is akin to navigating a field filled with landmines then I have a shocker waiting for you.

Down south, we have this unrestrained and unrealistic liberal mentality to impose change and adopt every western rubbish.

The north may appear backward to you, but you will be shocked how northern conservative approach has saved you countless times from being another victim of neoliberal foolishness. Northern conservatives have acted as a counter balance to save you from your own foolish device .

Take COVID pandemic as an example. The northerners were highly skeptical about the whole thing and it was only northern governors that refused to implement the foolish lockdowns and never enforced vaccine compliance unlike in the south that our governors were trying to overdo each other on who is more successful in enforcing the draconian lockdowns.

What of the LGBT rubbish that southern woke youths were advocating shamelessly for?

We even have the likes of bobrisky pushing transgenderism. How about the shameful thriving porn industry in the south, baby mama syndrome , high divorce rates , high paternity fraud, adultery ,prostitutuon and every sordid rubbish that is just a mimicry of what they see as liberating from western decaying society?

Don't let me even begin to talk about the disgraceful campus cultism. We claim we are educated down south but our highest institutions of learning are killing grounds and we have same effontrg to paint northerners as barbaric over the actions of their crudest and lowest criminals.

I don't think in anyway that southern woke left youth that populate the obidient movement are in any way or shape ready for leadership roles not even in a hundred years until something is done to change their outlook .

If they are so smart, why will they even choose the abysmal fraud and vapid empty headed dunce that is obi ?
Re: What Is Wrong With Obidients? by richmond500(op): 9:09pm On Jun 11
Kanwulia:
Yes! Because OBIKWAN was the NDC choice unopposed. Where was NDC before OBIKWAN?🙄


We joined NDC because of OBIKWAN, NOT YOU!🌹


Why did Dickson not run as presidential aspirant in NDC against OBI if he is so popular? After collecting bribes like Abure did to substitute candidates at midnight, you want to hang it on OBI’s neck.😂

You fail! If you give US candidates we did not nominate, WE WILL VOTE AGAINST THEM!😍

Now you want obidients and kwankwasiyas to be integrated into NDC? How?😁

Obidients and Kwankwasiyas are only supporting Obi and Kwankwaso because THEY ARE THE PEOPLES’ CHOICE.

Anyone imposed on us WILL FAIL. LP will not happen to us TWICE.

If you don’t gerrit, forget abourrrrit.🍷
are u aware he can also not submit Obi name to INEC?
So all ur rant will end.
People will still win in NDC if they are popular in their state, but Obi won't be on the ballot.

Make ona deh do ona rubbish
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