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Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by professore(m): 12:23am On Jun 12
Old but unwise person.
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by Mathewrichard99: 12:29am On Jun 12
But Ogun and Juju are the same now my brother??

tollyboy5:
Learn your sounds very well. Ogun in term of medicine not juju
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by Originalsly: 1:08am On Jun 12
I know two persons who fell victims to this. Mainly used in powdered form . Be wary of people asking you for directions ... the ones that will pull out a paper to show you where they see to go.. the paper has that drug... when you look to read... they'll blow the powder in your face... causing you to breathe it in ... and from that moment.... they control you.

I formative thread ...but too much information. Why name the drug? ...will it be if benefit to the victim? ..or to the criminal minded? As word get around in criminal circles.... we'll see a spike in crimes committed using this drug. Then what?


@ professore. ...... I suggest you edit this post
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by SIRTee15: 1:24am On Jun 12
But if a herbalist blow a white substance on your face and u become disoriented and confused, that's not juju or jazz.
That's the effect of herbs on you which can be explained, juju cannot be explained.
The herbalist simply came upon a substance that has a numbing effect and this can be replicated by someone else in another place. That is not juju, this is native medicine or whatever u want to call it.

Na the guy dey ignorant, he has no idea what is juju.
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by shortgun(m): 1:44am On Jun 12
Wotowotoman:
So why black man no fit use that same juju on white man wey come him own country and chain him and all him family and put them for boat to go sell to fellow white man for obodo oyibo? 🤔
I know people like you.
You want me to tell you the great secrets of African spirituality on the Internet. I won't ever do that.
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by shortgun(m): 1:46am On Jun 12
geoworldedu:
What is jujuic in yawning together, saying same things together like ten separate times, seeing a particular number every now and then? To me, being able to start talking is more jujuic than those things. Inventing great scientific equipments are more jujuic than all those stuffs. However, science don't say they did anything by juju, even when they do the greatest of the useful things on earth. But Africans, chai, Africans eh. Small being able to predict something right once in a blue moon like this.... Na juju grin
If you come to my shrine and I will gladly turn you into a goat to make you believe that there's juju in Africa.
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by terrezo2002(m): 3:13am On Jun 12
What do the kidnappers do so they are not affected by the substance since it is blown in the air
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by geoworldedu: 4:21am On Jun 12
shortgun:
If you come to my shrine and I will gladly turn you into a goat to make you believe that there's juju in Africa.
grin cheesy So you can turn things to goat and you're not a billionaire by now. What stops you from turning every grain of sand to goat so you can have a million herds of goat and become the richest billionaire like Job? You no get job aswear grin cheesy
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by Yvngex(m): 4:37am On Jun 12
Akinfemmy:
Bro, All this things are not mystery and they have explanations, just because you're too dull to grasp it doesn't make it supernatural. This world is scientific.
oya you wey fit "grasp," tell us the scientific meaning of the things he mentioned 🙄
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by smasher1(m): 5:34am On Jun 12
shortgun:
You never jam better juju
See dem advocates. Nothing like that. It can only affect you if you are greedy or believe it.
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by Franking: 6:00am On Jun 12
Anything Nigerians don't understand is juju. Very superstitious and gullible people.
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by Wotowotoman: 6:29am On Jun 12
shortgun:
I know people like you.
You want me to tell you the great secrets of African spirituality on the Internet. I won't ever do that.
Ogbeni, answer the question. Why una forefathers no use that juju to strike the oyibo man down? Imagine person coming to your own country to chain you and your family and pack una put for slave ship, upon all the juju wey una get. Come on gerrout of here angry
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by Dzzzz: 6:44am On Jun 12
Na so one white garment pastor do one magic trick for people eye,Omo dem think say na power from heaven..That same magic na him 419 use for me back then but they no see me scam..I just Dey laugh for mind say”White garment and juju na 5 and 6..
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by JoeEeL(m): 6:49am On Jun 12
shortgun:
You never jam better juju.

People who don't believe in spirituality are the most mentally static people to ever walk the surface of the earth.
Even the most advanced science can't explain the simple phenomenon why two people sitting close to each other yawn at the same time, intuition, why we dream or why the same camera in two different hands can produce entirely different photographs.
If these are ur points to argue for the supernatural, then this is a joke
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by 3kay945(m): 7:08am On Jun 12
AkpaMgbor:
Someone said earlier on this same thread that ignorance will fight back to maintain the status quo of the mind, and true to form it is fighting back. Trying to enlighten Nigerians is an exercise in futility.
No.. this your assertion isn't applicable here.

We have different experiences and beliefs so people will respond base on those and other factors.

So saying they fighting back based on ignorance is a fallacy.

You cant force what I don't believe or know about on me.

For me o.... juju dey, but it doesn't work on everyone and in every conditions or spaces why?! That i dont know!
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by jaephoenix(m): 7:12am On Jun 12
Wolexyoshi:
Might be right though, but dude should stop being delusional by saying "Juju no exit"

If only the Dude can come down to a Juju shrine and allow himself to be cursed.
Please tell your juju to curse me. After all,juju dey work even when person dey many miles away. Im ready
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by correctguy101(m): 7:19am On Jun 12
It remains juju to the uninformed.

Like I always argue. Everything under the sun could be just anything to any observer.

There was once a native doctor that told me about a plant that could make someone lose their way in the forests with it's scent. He warned that before going to get herbs, one has to fortify themselves against such plants as some could poison you with just a touch.

Imagine knowing such while others do not...

No be juju be that?

Lols
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by correctguy101(m): 7:27am On Jun 12
The legacy of our herbal men and women was probably bastardized and now distorted..

I believe it would have evolved to be greater than today's medical ways if it hadn't been cut off.

Those who knows today prefer to accept accolades of being representative of some God. They're simply common people who possess knowledge, uncommon knowledge.

There was once one old woman who could cure kidney problems with herbs and some selected parts of animal organs in the 90s. She died with her knowledge as I know the so-called inheritors are totally incapable of doing same but charge more than her.

We have those who use herbs to help the bones to heal in those years...

Our ways have been abandoned abeg.

We are a people with no legacy. Thoroughly colonized and defeated.
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by hegelian: 8:13am On Jun 12
Denko2721987:
See make una leave matter.. I am one of those people who would hardly relegate science for unknown believes or occurrences but there is black magic, like Serious ones for that matter and there are a whole lot of things which science may just never be able to explain becos they defeat every logical explanation, understanding or reasoning for their existence or how they function...Sometimes admitting and having the logical understanding that some things are just mysterious is true intelligence on its own not always trying to act like you know it all.. Humans can never know it all and I am saying this as someone who isn't a religious adherent
true intelligence is not always filling in the gap with black magic or juju once you dont understand something instead of simply saying i dont know and im willing to know is the realest true intelligence...years ago we dont understand blood group or genotype and people call it supernatural instead of simply saying they dont know and today we knoe whats called sickle cell, years past we dont know about smallpox and people call it supernatiral or sopana and today we understand and know what caused it and why....the greatest mental laziness is filling in the gap cos it put put a stop to the thinking process of a brain and god gave us a brain for a reason...
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by hegelian: 8:16am On Jun 12
correctguy101:
The legacy of our herbal men and women was probably bastardized and now distorted..

I believe it would have evolved to be greater than today's medical ways if it hadn't been cut off.

Those who knows today prefer to accept accolades of being representative of some God. They're simply common people who possess knowledge, uncommon knowledge.

There was once one old woman who could cure kidney problems with herbs and some selected parts of animal organs in the 90s. She died with her knowledge as I know the so-called inheritors are totally incapable of doing same but charge more than her.

We have those who use herbs to help the bones to heal in those years...

Our ways have been abandoned abeg.

We are a people with no legacy. Thoroughly colonized and defeated.
thank you..the hoarding of knowledge is what we call juju when its just knowledge that out to passed down, exposed to be made better and document for the future...every known juju or supernatural occurrence have explanation if the user is willing to explain it instead of tagging it mystery...if te guy that discovered antibiotics kept it as secret, there will still enough mortality of nursing mothers today
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by razzydoo(m): 8:23am On Jun 12
I agree because i have knowledge of pharmacology. There's something called anterograde amnesia.
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by InvertedHammer: 8:25am On Jun 12
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The African mind is limited to magic only. What they don't understand is miracle or juju. Scopolamine becomes jazz. Mixing white phosphorus with water becomes calling fire from heaven. An arranged testimony becomes plausible miraculous event. How can any group progress with such archaic mindset and intellectual dwarfism?

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Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by lailo: 8:32am On Jun 12
Ask him to allow juju ring or bante to be used on him and he will pick race grin grin grin
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by shortgun(m): 10:27am On Jun 12
Wotowotoman:
Ogbeni, answer the question. Why una forefathers no use that juju to strike the oyibo man down? Imagine person coming to your own country to chain you and your family and pack una put for slave ship, upon all the juju wey una get. Come on gerrout of here angry
You are just displaying dense ignorance on a subject you clearly know very little about. Most of you people have abandoned your history and heritage in exchange for empty wokeness.

Who told you that Europeans just landed in Africa and immediately began capturing natives to ship off to cotton and sugar plantations overseas?

Long before the arrival of Europeans, Africans were already engaged in slavery. Enslaved people were acquired through warfare, debt, punishment for crimes and even by birth.
My own grandfather had slaves. Go to your village and seat down with elders they'll tell you the history of slavery in your locality.


Europeans did not create slavery in Africa. They merely entered existing networks and increased the demand for enslaved people.
African rulers, merchants and middlemen captured, purchased and sold captives to European traders in exchange for firearms, textiles, metal products and other goods.

As the trade became more profitable wars and raids intensified in many areas, leading to the capture and sale of millions of Africans. European powers provided the ships, financing and overseas market that drove the trade on a massive scale while African leaders and traders participated by supplying captives.

Next time, I'll be taking fees
angry
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by waxxydude: 10:37am On Jun 12
brain54:
If it's derived from plants does that not make it herbalistic...


Most people lump herbal and supernatural together.


I don't believe there is no juju/ jazz though... you believe in God but not the supernatural. That doesn't add up!
yea the abrahamic god you believe in ain’t real either, neither is juju.
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by shortgun(m): 10:39am On Jun 12
geoworldedu:
grin cheesy So you can turn things to goat and you're not a billionaire by now. What stops you from turning every grain of sand to goat so you can have a million herds of goat and become the richest billionaire like Job? You no get job aswear grin cheesy
Una dey very funny grin grin
You are saying that if something exists it must be usable without limits for personal enrichment. That's like asking why is every mathematician not richer than everyone else or why every programmer is not a billionaire. grin grin

By that logic, if science is real every scientist should be a billionaire. If medicine works, every doctor should live forever. See your life grin grin
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by geoworldedu: 10:42am On Jun 12
shortgun:
Una dey very funny grin grin
You are saying that if something exists it must be usable without limits for personal enrichment. That's like asking why is every mathematician not richer than everyone else or why every programmer not a billionaire. grin grin

By that logic, if science is real every scientist should be a billionaire. If medicine works, every doctor should live forever.
You were shocked by my reply grin But you still haven't answered my question. I ask again, why can't you turn grains of sand to goats and have millions of goats. Then use them make money?
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by shortgun(m): 10:51am On Jun 12
geoworldedu:
You were shocked by my reply grin But you still haven't answered my question. I ask again, why can't you turn grains of sand to goats and have millions of goats. Then use them make money?
I've already answered your question.
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by geoworldedu: 11:07am On Jun 12
shortgun:
I've already answered your question.
You only asked me questions rather than answering my question na grin
Re: Not Juju Or Jazz. It's Scopolamine – The Drug Behind Nigerian 'one Chance' Magic by Dent(m): 12:49pm On Jun 12
But if science in itself shows that energy is needed for transformation of state, you ideally should expect there will be a price for any form of transformation including even the metaphysical/spiritual. There will always be a hidden cost whether he can explain it or not.

In the end everyone belief is shaped by what they've seen or learned including me and you. And science itself cannot explain everything, so any bold claim from you in itself, is shaped by what you know, and there are definitely things outside what you know/experienced that exist.

That you do not believe they exist is fine, but your insistence that something does not exist because you believe it does not exist in itself should be questioned. Same rule applies to me, you and everyone else, we always have the boundary of what we know/believe. But our mysterious world extend beyond this scope.

And finally there is still a possibility that whatever you belief today as absolute reality/truth can still be proven absolutely wrong by same science, just tomorrow. Tomorrow precisely because another scientific break through will proof it wrong, but imagine how long you would have called someone else ignorant based off that same believe that is supposedly quarter-to being proven wrong.
geoworldedu:
You only asked me questions rather than answering my question na grin
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