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Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by phemray(m): 1:06pm On Jun 12
AMINDA:
Where will Tinubu's votes come from? In 2023, he got defeated by Obi in the South, winning only 4 Yoruba states out of 17 Southern states. He became president because of the 5.6m Northern votes. Atiku has barely lost a voter from his 6.9m votes in 2023 but he has made huge incursions into the North with the demise of Buhari and Tinubu's betrayal of the Northern allies that helped him to galvanise votes.
But always remember that 1+1 in politics is never equal to 2, it's always equals to the latest demographic facts. Wining only 4 does not mean he will not win 17 as if today. Tinubu case is like a saint devil that meant well for the masses and Nigerians in a hard way. So he will still be better than others with nothing to show as results.

I just they wonder if any of the previous presidents or present other candidates can ever achieved a bold decision like
1. Removal of fuel and naira subsidy with all the hardships that follows
2. New tax law to replace that of 1960
3.Local government autonomy for the grassroots leadership.
4. state police
5.6 geopolitical zones of development commission
6. Massive projects in roads and others well visible for all to feel

Insecurity and Power are issues since decades. But they will be overcome with time when corruption and hunger for money by all means by individuals are addressed.
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by IgOga(m): 1:06pm On Jun 12
Obi's position given to Amaechi grin grin grin grin

Atiku learning from his mistakes with Wike.

I just hope Supreme leader Dickson will not submit Kwankwaso as the presidential nominee if obidients continue to attack him and the NDC
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by seunmsg(m): 1:07pm On Jun 12
Lordhanzo:
all these are for ndc. Stop sleeping on top bicycle. Tinubu failure in insecurity is the reason he’s going
Atiku won Osun, Akwa Ibom, Bayelsa and Taraba in 2023 and got over 25% in Delta. So, how are those states for NDC?
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by Svoboda(m): 1:09pm On Jun 12
Akpakomiza2:
Tinubu will takeover Atiku votes in Osun, bayelsa and akwa ibom places he won 2023. Tinubu will bury Atiku in Kano which has the largest voting population in the north. Atiku can't recover from kano
Same way Atiku will take over Tinubus votes in the northwest. Tinubu is unsellable. A lot of APC chieftains in the north will play anti party. Their collective anger is against Tinubus govt.

In Kano, have senator kawu and co been settled?
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by zoedew: 1:09pm On Jun 12
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by seunmsg(m): 1:10pm On Jun 12
Svoboda:
In 2023, you didn't see the voters defy governors? Besides, what's Tinubus selling point? Every governing index seems to stand against him.

Besides, the Christian areas you're talking about are slippery. Let him just make sure he's in the good books of the Catholics as well as other northern Christian denominations. This is because once obis campaign gains momentum, it'd have the potential of upstaging Tinubu. Remember, the Mu-Mu ticket is still as much a factor as hunger and insecurity.
Atiku won Osun, Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom, Taraba etc in 2023 because of the PDP governors and structures. Those governors are now in APC and the PDP structures have been merged into APC. In 2027, Atiku wont get 10% in those states again. That's how powerful governors can be. You will understand better in 2027.
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by Tareq1105: 1:12pm On Jun 12
AMINDA:
Where will Tinubu's votes come from? In 2023, he got defeated by Obi in the South, winning only 4 Yoruba states out of 17 Southern states. He became president because of the 5.6m Northern votes. Atiku has barely lost a voter from his 6.9m votes in 2023 but he has made huge incursions into the North with the demise of Buhari and Tinubu's betrayal of the Northern allies that helped him to galvanise votes.
Where are the Govs that funded Atiku's campaign expenses in 2023?

Are these Govs still with Atiku?

Where would Atiku funding come from?

In all honesty, are those 6.9m votes you referred to still there considering the fact that he's lost all the states in the south even be4 electioneering?
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by omooba969(m): 1:13pm On Jun 12
Now, this will send Wike into panic mode...lol cheesy
Wike will work tirelessly to prevent this from becoming a reality...trust me. grin
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by fergie001(mod): 1:15pm On Jun 12
Akpakomiza2:
Obi was his choice in 2023? Since he has picked them, he is banking on them
Obi was his choice in 2027.
Obi was never his choice in 2023. He needed money and assured the Govs he will pick one of them. Ihedioha. Is going for Imo Gov under ADC. There are little or no options actually!
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by DatNiggaDaz: 1:16pm On Jun 12
omenka:
All of these and the drama in the ndc are meant just for our entertainment tbh. I see no one amongst these clowns who can upstage Tinubu at this point.
grin cheesy

The sai darling daddy are coming out after destr*ying the country with their sharia daddy Buhar
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by AMINDA: 1:16pm On Jun 12
Tareq1105:
Where are the Govs that funded Atiku's campaign expenses in 2023?

Are these Govs still with Atiku?

Where would Atiku funding come from?

In all honesty, are those 6.9m votes you referred to still there considering the fact that he's lost all the states in the south even be4 electioneering?
You all need to pick one struggle and stick with it. Is Atiku the dollar man that shares dollars to everyone or is he the brokeman that can no longer fund his election campaign? Pick one. Didn't Obi cite dollarisation of the direct primaries as a reason for why he left the ADC? So, an Atiku that could credit everyone's account with dollars in a primary is suddenly short of funds? How much did Obi spend in his last election when he defeated Tinubu in the entire South? Why did Okowa not deliver Atiku as an incumbent governor and VP candidate in Rivers despite having the funds? Did Tinubu lose Lagos and Osun because he didn't spend enough?
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by Tareq1105: 1:20pm On Jun 12
seunmsg:
Atiku won Osun, Akwa Ibom, Bayelsa and Taraba in 2023 and got over 25% in Delta. So, how are those states for NDC?
All the states you mentioned have slipped out of Atiku control going forward to 2027. Who'll spend for Atiku in those states?

Do you really know what it costs to fund presidential election in one state?
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by Svoboda(m): 1:22pm On Jun 12
seunmsg:
Atiku won Osun, Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom, Taraba etc in 2023 because of the PDP governors and structures. Those governors are now in APC and the PDP structures have been merged into APC. In 2027, Atiku wont get 10% in those states again. That's how powerful governors can be. You will understand better in 2027.
Now, you're imagining very big things when you say Atiku won't get 10% in Taraba.

If Atiku can't win any of those states because of the govs structures in 2027, is it safe to say that Obi winning Lagos, Delta, Ebonyi, Imo and Abia, with rival party governors, as well as Atiku winning Katsina and Gombe, was all because of the governors structures in their respective states or are you contradicting yourself?
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by Tareq1105: 1:26pm On Jun 12
AMINDA:
You all need to pick one struggle and stick with it. Is Atiku the dollar man that shares dollars to everyone or is he the brokeman that can no longer fund his election campaign? Pick one. Didn't Obi cite dollarisation of the direct primaries as a reason for why he left the ADC? So, an Atiku that could credit everyone's account with dollars in a primary is suddenly short of funds? How much did Obi spend in his last election when he defeated Tinubu in the entire South? Why did Okowa not deliver Atiku as an incumbent governor and VP candidate in Rivers despite having the funds? Did Tinubu lose Lagos and Osun because he didn't spend enough?
No need for debate, we shall see in the next 7 months.
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by Amarachieze(m): 1:31pm On Jun 12
What of Kenneth Okonkwo
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by Akpakomiza2: 1:32pm On Jun 12
simpleseyi:
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Meaning that you should stop whatever you just started smoking
I wanted to say can't not can. Amechi even gave 66k not 100k
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by Akpakomiza2: 1:34pm On Jun 12
Svoboda:
What political influence does the minister have? Has APC settled sen Leah? You don't know that Atiku currently dominates Kd north and central. Just ask around.
He is influential in kaduna south. I know Atiku dominates northern kaduna as of 2023 but we don't know as of now with the massive defections to APC of people like Sen Hunkuyi, Yero, Sambo.
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by Akpakomiza2: 1:36pm On Jun 12
Svoboda:
In 2023, Atiku didn't lose because Okowa failed to deliver delta state. He failed because northerners heeded buharis call to vote Tinubu. This was largely midwifed by El rufai and co. Atiku would be a fool to believe Amaechi can win the south for him. He'd only lose if he loses majority votes in the north, which is most unlikely. Has Tinubu won new voters in the north? Your guess is as good as mine.
You are not good in electoral calculations. Even if the north delivered Atiku, he still failed to get the spread in the south and necessary votes. In national elections, you need all the help you can. Atiku can't do it alone. All those around Atiku are liabilities. What is the need of picking a running mate who can help you achieve the spread? Even if shettima loses Borno/ Yobe, he will get Tinubu significant votes. This is a key difference
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by DMerciful(m): 1:38pm On Jun 12
This cannot be a solid ticket. Amaechi has no base
AMINDA:
Still conjectures but this will be a solid ticket. Congratulations in advance to Waziri Atiku Abubakar and Rt. Hon. Rotimi Chibuike Amaechi.
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by opes: 1:38pm On Jun 12
AMINDA:
Okay, let's address your ignorance one by one. In 2023, Binani was the APC candidate in Adamawa. Her leaving the APC is a loss for Tinubu. In 2023, Babachir Lawal left APC due to Tinubu's muslim-muslim ticket and supported Obi. That he temporarily joined the ADC coalition does not mean he's an Atiku ally. He has never voted for Atiku. As for Okowa, granted he's now in APC but he didn't deliver his state to Atiku as an incumbent governor and Vice presidential candidate. Obi won Delta. If Deltans didn't vote Okowa despite being a VP candidate, what will Tinubu promise them that will make them vote him in 2027?
Okowa is still a loss. Atiku will never get the numbers Okowa delivered for him in 2023 in the 2027 election in Delta state. What about Adeleke? He delivered Osun to Atiku. Can we boldly say that Atiku will win Osun in 2027?
How about the PDP governors? None again, that is also a loss.
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by omenka(m): 1:39pm On Jun 12
geoworldedu:
How many Igbos really want to vote for Tinubu? Let's be realistic.
And that justifies their industrial scale rigging? Besides, just hear yourself ask such a question with confidence, yet you people call Yorubas tribalist. Isn't that so cute? 🤡
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by Svoboda(m): 1:41pm On Jun 12
Akpakomiza2:
You are not good in electoral calculations. Even if the north delivered Atiku, he still failed to get the spread in the south and necessary votes. In national elections, you need all the help you can. Atiku can't do it alone. All those around Atiku are liabilities. What is the need of picking a running mate who can help you achieve the spread? Even if shettima loses Borno/ Yobe, he will get Tinubu significant votes. This is a key difference
He won't get the spread. Will Tinubu get the highest votes cast, or is our constitution blind to this scenario?
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by Akpakomiza2: 1:42pm On Jun 12
Svoboda:
Same way Atiku will take over Tinubus votes in the northwest. Tinubu is unsellable. A lot of APC chieftains in the north will play anti party. Their collective anger is against Tinubus govt.

In Kano, have senator kawu and co been settled?
The votes Tinubu will get in Kano will dampen Atiku's chances. Atiku has gotten weaker in north west .Tinubu won 2 states in north west so he doesn't need to stress himself much. Atiku is largely unsellable that is why he can't be president.
That strategy of banking on infighting or sabotage within a party has never worked, why not just build your party. Even if they want to work against Tinubu, Atiku doesn't offer much prospects. Obi is a no no. No one rewards loyallists like Tinubu. Tinubu can always settle kawu, how will atiku settle Binani and Abbo who are more dangerous
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by geoworldedu: 1:43pm On Jun 12
omenka:
And that justifies their industrial scale rigging? Besides, just hear yourself ask such a question with confidence, yet you people call Yorubas tribalist. Isn't that so cute? 🤡
I've never called Yoruba tribalist and I'm not Igbo as well. But when you look at Tinubu's achievement in his last 3 and half years, you should know nobody can do more poorly than him in the entire universe.
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by Akpakomiza2: 1:44pm On Jun 12
Svoboda:
He won't get the spread. Will Tinubu get the highest votes cast, or is our constitution blind to this scenario?
Tinubu will get all. When he beats Atiku in Kano, Yobe Borno, Taraba,north central, how will atiku surmount that? There is absolutely no big voting state Atiku has to turn the tide... When the election gets very tight, the difference may come down to what Atiku gets in south, what Tinubu gets in north, what the running mates deliver
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by SuperEagles: 1:45pm On Jun 12
Congratulations to your tears after the election in advance.

AMINDA:
Still conjectures but this will be a solid ticket. Congratulations in advance to Waziri Atiku Abubakar and Rt. Hon. Rotimi Chibuike Amaechi.
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by Akpakomiza2: 1:45pm On Jun 12
fergie001:
Obi was his choice in 2027.
Obi was never his choice in 2023. He needed money and assured the Govs he will pick one of them. Ihedioha. Is going for Imo Gov under ADC. There are little or no options actually!
So sad. Imagine you are stuck with people like ihediohw, Duke, nwajiuba, amechi
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by Svoboda(m): 1:46pm On Jun 12
Akpakomiza2:
He is influential in kaduna south. I know Atiku dominates northern kaduna as of 2023 but we don't know as of now with the massive defections to APC of people like Sen Hunkuyi, Yero, Sambo.
I'm talking of now. I'm telling you a lot of northern APC chieftains will do anti party. They did it to both Jonathan and Obj, but the danger for Tinubu is that unlike both Obj and Gej, he is so unpopular across the south that those who wouldn't want to vote either obi or Atiku would completely opt out of voting completely.
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by Svoboda(m): 1:47pm On Jun 12
Akpakomiza2:
Tinubu will get all. When he beats Atiku in Kano, Yobe Borno, Taraba,north central, how will atiku surmount that? There is absolutely no big voting state Atiku has to turn the tide... When the election gets very tight, the difference may come down to what Atiku gets in south, what Tinubu gets in north, what the running mates deliver
Fingers crossed.
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by Akpakomiza2: 1:48pm On Jun 12
Svoboda:
I'm talking of now. I'm telling you a lot of northern APC chieftains will do anti party. They did it to both Jonathan and Obj, but the danger for Tinubu is that unlike both Obj and Gej, he is so unpopular across the south that those who wouldn't want to vote either obi or Atiku would completely opt out of voting completely.
You are not in APC so you wouldn't know. They have always done it and failed. Tinubu is not banking on winning the north outright like Atiku so he can afford to fail here and there. He has a lot of cushion, Atiku doesn't
Re: Atiku Picks Amaechi As Vice President Nominee - The Guardian by Svoboda(m): 1:50pm On Jun 12
Akpakomiza2:
The votes Tinubu will get in Kano will dampen Atiku's chances. Atiku has gotten weaker in north west .Tinubu won 2 states in north west so he doesn't need to stress himself much. Atiku is largely unsellable that is why he can't be president.
That strategy of banking on infighting or sabotage within a party has never worked, why not just build your party. Even if they want to work against Tinubu, Atiku doesn't offer much prospects. Obi is a no no. No one rewards loyallists like Tinubu. Tinubu can always settle kawu, how will atiku settle Binani and Abbo who are more dangerous
Was abbo ever with Atiku until adc? Did Binani also tell you she's got problems with Atiku?

So Binani will abandon Atiku for obi or Tinubu?
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