₦airaland Forum

seppuku:
So every African country hates you just for being South African?

Why?

Probably.What's to you?

JaceBlaze:
Probably.What's to you?

Africans hate South Africans because we are South Africans.

Circular reasoning my friend. There is always a why. A cause and an effect.

seppuku:
You keep repeating this but cannot substantiate your claim.

Cognitive dissonance.

im talking to my compatriot JaceBlaze..he can relate better to what im saying... you have no clue

seppuku:
Hungry mischief makers much like your Dudula. You must come to Lagos and see what city boys are doing there. Yoruba and Igbo



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPYmVNtGqb4

Its more than just "hungry mischief makers" you and I know this.. they are the manifestation of a bigger triablism problem thats been there in your country for ages... you love playing down issues of your country but you amplifying South African ones..

IronGalaxy:
Its more than just "hungry mischief makers" you and I know this.. they are the manifestation of a bigger triablism problem thats been there in your country for ages... you love playing down issues of your country but you amplifying South African ones..

I am not a denialist my friend. Tribalism exists in Nigeria but your argument in reminding us of something that we already know exists and thus delegitimizing our ability or concerns about other evils that also directly affect us is neither here nor there. Sorry.

IronGalaxy:
im talking to my compatriot JaceBlaze..he can relate better to what im saying... you have no clue

just because the two of you join forces to aspouse a fallacy doesn't in anyway legitimize or make it true.

seppuku:
Africans hate South Africans because we are South Africans.

Circular reasoning my friend. There is always a why. A cause and an effect.

Seppuku would know a thing or two about circular reasoning.He's been at it.

seppuku:
I am not a denialist my friend. Tribalism exists in Nigeria but your argument in reminding us of something that we already know exists and thus delegitimizing our ability or concerns other evils that also directly affect us is not cutting it. Sorry.

You dont throw stones living in a glass house, ever heard of that saying? Thats my argument.. you cant be an anti-drug activist but do drugs in you spare time..

JaceBlaze:
Seppuku would know a thing or two about circular reasoning.He's been at it.

He just argues aimlessly

seppuku:
just because the two of you join forces to aspouse a fallacy doesn't in anyway legitimize or make it true.

both of us share the same experiences and observations only South Africans would know about. Its true enough for us

JaceBlaze:
Seppuku would know a thing or two about circular reasoning.He's been at it.

I have made no claims here.

Please focus on the below and try not to digress or strawman

"Africans hate South Africans because we are South Africans". This is circular reasoning.

IronGalaxy:
You dont throw stones living in a glass house, ever heard of that saying? Thats my argument.. you cant be an anti-drug activist but do drugs in you spare time..

Are you talking about as individuals or as a collective nation?

seppuku:
Are you talking about as individuals or as a collective nation?

collectively..

IronGalaxy:
both of us share the same experiences and observations only South Africans would know about. Its true enough for us

Yes you and your comrades "lived" experience argument which is anecdotal at best.

seppuku:
Yes you and your comrades "lived" experience argument which is anecdotal at best.

And yet it is true.. I cannot argue with Russians when they tell me abou that little spot that sells cheap vodka near the train station in Moscow can I? Only they know about those little nuances about their own country.. learn to dissociate yourself from certain topics. Youre not the all-kowing deity you think you are.

IronGalaxy:
collectively..

If so then what is incorrect with me claiming as an 'individual" that I perceive your country to be xenophobic.

seppuku:
If so then what is incorrect with me claiming as an 'individual" that I perceive your country to be xenophobic.

Nigerians are the ones that collectively decry xenophobia all the time arent they? They're also the ones that will collectively practice tribalism isnt so? So how do these people collectively lecture us about xenophobia?

IronGalaxy:
And yet it is true.. I cannot argue with Russians when they tell me abou that little spot that sells cheap vodka near the train station in Moscow can I? All them know about those little nuances about their own country.. learn to dissociate yourself from certain topics. Youre not the all-kowing deity you think you are.

Your truth tells us nothing about something.

If I make a similar statement and say "rape occurs everywhere in the known world and affects different types of people."That is meaningless.

Learn to put down the mic when you are not making sense.

seppuku:
I have made no claims here.

Please focus on the below and try not to digress or strawman

"Africans hate South Africans because we are South Africans". This is circular reasoning.

It's your statement,not mine.

seppuku:
Your truth tells us nothing about something.

If I make a similar statement and say "rape occurs everywhere in the known world and affects different types of people."That is meaningless.

Learn to put down the mic when you are not making sense.

Nope.. my truth tells you nothing because you want it to be nothing.. unfortunately, that's not how it works.. denying something doesnt make it untrue..

IronGalaxy:
Nope.. my truth tells you nothing because you want it to be nothing.. unfortunately, that's not how it works.. denying something doesnt make it untrue..

It exists in your head therefore it is true just like voices that exist in a schizophrenics head are also true. I get it now.

JaceBlaze:
It's your statement,not mine.

Right right.

seppuku:
It exists in your head therefore it is true just like voices that exist in a schizophrenics head are also true. I get it now.

Ah waste of time

IronGalaxy:
Nigerians are the ones that collectively decry xenophobia all the time arent they? They're also the ones that will collectively practice tribalism isnt so? So how do these people collectively lecture us about xenophobia?

Because "Nigerians' are being "collectively" being discriminated against in your country.

When last did you see Nigerians complain about any "individual" Nigerian criminal being caught and dealt with in South Africa.

SMH

IronGalaxy:
Ah waste of time

Indeed it is. It only works in your realm of reality, irongalaxy.

seppuku:
Because "Nigerians' are being "collectively" being discriminated against in your country.

When last did you see Nigerians complain about any "individual" Nigerian criminal being caught and dealt with in South Africa.

SMH

Nigerians are not being discriminated against in SA.. they are merely treated and perceived in the same way they present themselves. You are again assuming yourself to be some "victim"

seppuku:
Indeed it is. It only works in your realm of reality, irongalaxy.

Um no.. its a waste of my time because I can see aimless arguing is creeping in

IronGalaxy:
Um no.. its a waste of my time because I can see aimless arguing is creeping in

You cannot see past what you do not know.

seppuku:
You cannot see past what you do not know.

hahaha.. oh goodness

IronGalaxy:
Nigerians are not being discriminated against in SA.. they are merely treated and perceived in the same way they present themselves. You are again assuming yourself to be some "victim"

Yes , we believe you.

A mechanic "selling drugs" is victimhood. Since 2008


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgzUYpccpDM

seppuku:
Yes , we believe you.

A mechanic "selling drugs" is victimhood. Since 2008


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgzUYpccpDM

We perceive they way they present themselves to us.. what part of this is a lie?