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Jlow2:
give ten problems tinubu has solved in nigeria since he assumed office in 2023

Since you asked. 12 more. Remember i promised 100. here is an additional 12 focus on infrastructure. Please sray tuned

Twelve Road Reasons I Will Be Voting for President Tinubu in 2027

1. He is not just announcing roads; he is commissioning them.
That matters in Nigeria, where too many governments speak in signboards and leave potholes behind.

2. Abuja now has visible, completed road projects, not only drawings.
The N20 arterial road was completed and commissioned this week , adding a major new carriageway to the capital’s road network.

3. The Ushafa–War College road in Bwari is completed and in use.
That is important because it shows infrastructure is reaching beyond the glossy city centre into the wider FCT.

4. The Kuje corridor has been transformed from a death trap into a working route.
That kind of project affects commuters, workers, and airport access in real life, not just in speeches.

5. The Outer Southern Expressway corridor has moved from long talk to commissioned carriageways.
That is practical urban expansion, not ceremonial politics.

6. The Enugu–Port Harcourt road has seen real completion, not endless excuse.
Its Enugu–Lokpanta section was commissioned, ending years of frustration on one of the South East’s key corridors.

7. The collapsed New Artisan bridge in Enugu was reconstructed.
That is the kind of intervention that restores safety and economic movement, not just optics.

8. The Akpoha bridge in Ebonyi was delivered as a replacement for a near-collapsed structure.
That is infrastructure as rescue, not just politics.

9. The Lagos–Calabar Coastal Highway has moved beyond argument into visible execution.
Its first section was commissioned, and work on the opening stretch reached high completion levels before inauguration.

10. The Abuja–Kaduna–Kano corridor is no longer frozen.
The Zuba–Jere section has been reported as fully completed, showing movement on a road of major northern economic importance.

11. The administration is building roads as economic corridors, not isolated patches.
That is the logic behind the coastal highway and the Sokoto–Badagry superhighway: connect trade, reduce logistics cost, and tie regions together.

12. The pattern is now clear: completion, commissioning, and continuity.
No government is perfect, but this one has enough completed roads and measurable progress to show that its infrastructure story is no longer theory.

1Alex:
1. "He inspires emotion, not order."
Politics in Nigeria, and any developing context, usually derive order from party structures and alliances. One single individual personality rarely brings "order", rather party discipline, alliance-building with other politicians and groups and existing government structures contribute to order. Supporters argue that he attempted to foster discipline through campaigning style that focused more on issues and less on old style patronage networks.Also, system in Nigeria usually weakens president with attempts to have direct personal command over the entire system. This is a collective issue not a personal issue of a president.

2. "He shifts platforms too easily."
Arguments of proponents would claim this isn't about inconsistency of opinion, but rather about Nigeria's highly unstable political party system. Every politician and group scrambles from one platform to another due to lack of party democracy within Nigeria's internal party mechanics. His followers say that he never deviated from the message ofanti-waste and governance reforms in Nigeria, even when the party's platform has changed.

3. "He has enthusiasm not enduring structure."
The argument is that he was able to build a grassroots and youthful oriented movement from a very scratch within short period of time, which is a form of structure. Structure can also mean ability to mobilize large number of people. Whether such movement can be sustained in the long term or can transmute to sustainable organization remains the question.

4. "His support base repels allies."
Every major wave that emerged in Nigeria had hyper supporters whose behaviors may alienate others. This is not unique. Nigeria's coalition politics is often characterized by opportunism, and such "allies" usually come because of political bargaining and deals not because they feel a sense of fellowship with supporters of presidential candidate. Accusing supporters alone would be failing to understand the workings of elite politics.

5. "He speaks like a lecturer and not a coalition builder."
An alternative reading is that he communicates clearly through policy and facts instead of vagaries characteristic of Nigerian politics. Coalition building in Nigeria often relies on compromitory rhetoric which leads to opportunities for corruption and vague policy promises. His style could be simply different rather than ineffective.

6. "He rode a wave in 2023 but did not know how to carry over that momentum to structure."
The electoral machinery and state institutions did not work for him in 2023 elections, in terms of winning parliamentary seats for his party, for example. Successfully continuing a movement demands access to established political structures and this candidate, or the structure that propelled him to victory, was limited in such access. The argument is that the system limited his capacity not that the president personally failed to structure that movement.

7. "He can't rein in supporters."
Very little evidence shows direct presidential command and control over a highly structured party machinery. Supporters in loosely structured movements have far more latitude than those within traditional, hierarchal party machines. What seems like excesses might not necessarily imply lack of organizational control on the part of the presidential candidate.

8. "Protest energy is not governance."
The assertion that the energy used to protest does not translate to good governance is a valid one. However, a protest movement does transform into governing personnel upon gaining power from protests and entering formal political structures. It is not about the origin of the energy, but the capacity of those who wield it to bring in qualified technocrats to run the government, which should only be assessed once they have entered power and governance process begins.

9. "Regional intensity as opposed to broad spread."
The 2023 election results indicated that he enjoyed significant votes in several regions not just one specific area. Nigerian political context is always accompanied by regional patterns in votes for all major candidates; hence the contention would be about his ability to spread and build more alliances across other regions of the country with time.

10. "He criticizes more than he offers proposals."
His documents and campaigns in 2023 did address issues of fiscal policy, expenditure rationalization and the restructuring arguments that many would call proposals. Individuals may disagree on the detail, viability and implementation methods but it cannot be asserted that there are no proposals at all. It's simply that individuals might argue that such proposals aren't as concrete as they should be, or aren't practical.

CharlesCNG
Here's a response you've not been able to counter though
You simply shifted to another round of gibberish about why you will vote Tinubu never mind his glaring incompetence

TemplarLandry:
He speaks like an imbẹ́cile. Add that.

Thank you for proving the point of my article. When Obidients cannot answer substance, they quickly switch to abuse. “slowpoke” is not an argument; it is what people use when they have run out of one. If my ten reasons are weak, address them one by one. But once you abandon the issues and start attacking the writer, you have already confessed that the facts are heavier than your response. There is a proverb: when a man cannot untie the knot, he begins to curse the rope. Insult may satisfy anger, but it never defeats substance. In the end, the empty drum makes the loudest noise, but it still remains empty.

CharlesCNG:
Thank you for proving the point of my article. When Obidients cannot answer substance, they quickly switch to abuse. “slowpoke” is not an argument; it is what people use when they have run out of one. If my ten reasons are weak, address them one by one. But once you abandon the issues and start attacking the writer, you have already confessed that the facts are heavier than your response. There is a proverb: when a man cannot untie the knot, he begins to curse the rope. Insult may satisfy anger, but it never defeats substance. In the end, the empty drum makes the loudest noise, but it still remains empty.

It's obvious this is a bot account
Seun take note

Please I'm please stop disturbing us go and vote for tinubu 1 million times I don't care


As long as dollar crosses the 2,000 naira mark I support you with destroy your country

TemplarLandry:
He speaks like an imbẹ́cile. Add that.

Thank you for proving the point of my article. When Obidients cannot answer substance, they quickly switch to abuse.

“slowpoke” is not an argument; it is what people use when they have run out of one. If my ten reasons are weak, address them one by one.

But once you abandon the issues and start attacking the writer, you have already confessed that the facts are heavier than your response.

There is a proverb: when a man cannot untie the knot, he begins to curse the rope. Insult may satisfy anger, but it never defeats substance. In the end, the empty drum makes the loudest noise, but it still remains empty.

Kukutente23:
It's obvious this is a bot account
Seun take note

Thank you . but it is not. i sometimes repost a standard response for nincompoops who cannot address issues frontally.

CharlesCNG:
Thank you . but it is not. i sometimes repost a standard response for nincompoops who cannot address issues frontally.

Exactly what a bot would say
The post you quoted was actually on your side and insulting Obi not you as you concluded. So it's definitely not an Obidient account
If you were not a bot you'll see that
What constitutes a standard response if I may ask

Kukutente23:
Exactly what a bot would say
The post you quoted was actually on your side and insulting Obi not you as you concluded. So it's definitely not an Obidient account
If you were not a bot you'll see that
What constitutes a standard response if I may ask

I no get time to dey shalaye. If that particular account no be Obidient, no wahala. But the pattern remains the same: less substance, more insult, more distraction. If you have a counter, drop it. If not, no need for long grammar.

BigCowHornn:
Please I'm please stop disturbing us go and vote for tinubu 1 million times I don't care


As long as dollar crosses the 2,000 naira mark I support you with destroy your country

You are free not to care, but anger is not an argument.
I am not “disturbing” you; I am stating my political position, just as you are stating yours. And if your only response is to wish economic disaster on the country because you hate Tinubu, then you have already exposed the weakness in your own politics.
Serious citizens do not pray for Nigeria to burn just to prove a partisan point. We all buy fuel, pay rent, and feed families. That is exactly why some of us support reforms that may be painful now but are meant to stop a bigger collapse later.

You can disagree, but do not confuse bitterness with patriotism. A man who says he loves the village should not pray for the market to catch fire because he hates the chief.

CharlesCNG:
*You are proving my point.
I assume you have no real response to what I stated. Otherwise, you would have addressed the reasons one by one instead of dancing around them. There is a proverb: when a man has no answer, he begins to chase shadows. Silence in the face of substance is often the loudest confession of weakness. He who cannot untie the knot should stop pretending he holds the rope. In the end, the empty drum makes the loudest noise, but it still remains empty.

You're not worth a response because you failed to make sense. Arguing with a kitchen table makes no sense 😕

ngmgeek:
You're not worth a response because you failed to make sense. Arguing with a kitchen table makes no sense 😕

Calling someone a kitchen table does not answer a single point. It only confirms that you came to the discussion without argument and are now trying to leave with insult. Empty heads often borrow big mouths.

A serious mind responds to points. A shallow one responds to people. Thank you for showing the difference.

Ojuntana:
You're still saying the same thing in a different way

You summarily consider Op to be intellectually superior to you

Not at all, that's your interpretation of what I said and definitely not what I said.

It's OK for you to believe what you want though, after all this is a faceless forum.

CharlesCNG:
You are free not to care, but anger is not an argument.
I am not “disturbing” you; I am stating my political position, just as you are stating yours. And if your only response is to wish economic disaster on the country because you hate Tinubu, then you have already exposed the weakness in your own politics.
Serious citizens do not pray for Nigeria to burn just to prove a partisan point. We all buy fuel, pay rent, and feed families. That is exactly why some of us support reforms that may be painful now but are meant to stop a bigger collapse later.

You can disagree, but do not confuse bitterness with patriotism. A man who says he loves the village should not pray for the market to catch fire because he hates the chief.

Omo carry your useless epistle and go to the market. I no send you

CharlesCNG:
I no get time to dey shalaye. If that particular account no be Obidient, no wahala. But the pattern remains the same: less substance, more insult, more distraction. If you have a counter, drop it. If not, no need for long grammar.

There's no need to counter a meaningless tripe

Kukutente23:
There's no need to counter a meaningless tripe

Fifty Problems Tinubu Has Solved or Seriously Addressed Since 2023 PART 1

A. Economy and Public Finance — 10

1. He ended the petrol-subsidy drain.
The subsidy regime had become a huge fiscal leak; ending it removed a major structural burden from the treasury.

2. He tackled the multiple-exchange-rate distortion.
The old FX system was opaque and distortionary; reforms moved Nigeria toward a more transparent market.

3. He helped move Nigeria back into external surplus.
Nigeria posted a $6.83 billion balance-of-payments surplus in 2024, showing that the external account stopped bleeding the way it had.

4. He strengthened foreign-exchange buffers.
Net FX reserves rose sharply to $34.8 billion by end-2025, improving Nigeria’s external safety cushion.

5. He narrowed the fiscal deficit.
Tinubu said the fiscal deficit fell from 5.4% of GDP in 2023 to 3.0% in 2024, helped by stronger revenues and reforms.

6. He improved investor sentiment.
Reuters reported that reforms helped revive investor confidence, with foreign investors returning to local-currency bonds and other instruments.

7. He won ratings improvement.
Moody’s upgraded Nigeria’s rating in 2025, citing stronger external and fiscal positions.

8. He reduced the old FX-backlog problem.
A big part of the reform agenda was clearing backlog pressures and restoring market credibility after years of FX rationing.

9. He improved state finances through higher shared revenues.
Higher federation inflows after subsidy removal gave states more money to work with.

10. He attacked oil-and-gas revenue leakages.
Tinubu directed that oil and gas revenues owed to government be paid directly into the federation account, reducing the old deduction-heavy system

CharlesCNG:
Fifty Problems Tinubu Has Solved or Seriously Addressed Since 2023 PART 1

A. Economy and Public Finance — 10

1. He ended the petrol-subsidy drain.
The subsidy regime had become a huge fiscal leak; ending it removed a major structural burden from the treasury.

2. He tackled the multiple-exchange-rate distortion.
The old FX system was opaque and distortionary; reforms moved Nigeria toward a more transparent market.

3. He helped move Nigeria back into external surplus.
Nigeria posted a $6.83 billion balance-of-payments surplus in 2024, showing that the external account stopped bleeding the way it had.

4. He strengthened foreign-exchange buffers.
Net FX reserves rose sharply to $34.8 billion by end-2025, improving Nigeria’s external safety cushion.

5. He narrowed the fiscal deficit.
Tinubu said the fiscal deficit fell from 5.4% of GDP in 2023 to 3.0% in 2024, helped by stronger revenues and reforms.

6. He improved investor sentiment.
Reuters reported that reforms helped revive investor confidence, with foreign investors returning to local-currency bonds and other instruments.

7. He won ratings improvement.
Moody’s upgraded Nigeria’s rating in 2025, citing stronger external and fiscal positions.

8. He reduced the old FX-backlog problem.
A big part of the reform agenda was clearing backlog pressures and restoring market credibility after years of FX rationing.

9. He improved state finances through higher shared revenues.
Higher federation inflows after subsidy removal gave states more money to work with.

10. He attacked oil-and-gas revenue leakages.
Tinubu directed that oil and gas revenues owed to government be paid directly into the federation account, reducing the old deduction-heavy system

I really did not want to counter your thread as it seems more like a paid writeup drawn from AI but it seems you're beginning to believe your own falsehood which is a most dangerous thing. Lest you go to town with it feeling funky, take note of the following:

1. Fuel subsidy removal is not an achievement. Previous govts have tried to remove subsidy since 1999 most notably in 2012. Ironically, this same president mobilised people against the move then. And it was a popular move mainly because subsidy removal is an antisocial move. The cost of preventing the removal in 2012 and hypocritically removing it on the first day in office ultimately being borne by the masses. In 2012 when subsidy was removed, petrol price moved from 87 to 145 which is 85% increase. Conversely, in 2023, it moved from 197 to 630 at first instance and is now over 1300 which represents around a 700% increase. The difference in percentages (an alarming 615) is the opportunity cost of delaying that removal by 11 years which Tinubu is directly responsible for in the final analysis. So in actual fact, he should be apologising to Nigerians for making them lose 615% cushion over 10 years only to cluelessly throw them in the deep end. More importantly, the removal of subsidy has led to an increase in poverty rate by 10points from 51% to 63% in the space of 3 years. A policy that increases poverty can't be said to be a good economic move in the final analysis after all the idea behind an economy is meeting the needs of the people with the minimum cost.

2. As for multiple exchange rate, he can take credit for that but only so far as the fact that the mess was created by his fellow party man and former political ally Buhari whom he supported all through the creation of the mess. So it comes across again as hypocrisy if he supported his ally to mess up the forex and kept mute only to do an about turn when he got into office. Again, the currency devaluation was so badly mismanaged that the exchange rate was nearing N2000 to $1 before his govt reacted to bring things under control. This led to massive cost push inflation as manufacturers grappled with high input costs and led to price inflation at the shelf leading to shrinkage in real household income and massive high cost of living the likes that have never been witnessed in this country. Imagine an inflation rate of over 30%!!

3. False. Nigeria has been having a favourable BoT and BoP since 2021. Go and check your facts. More importantly, Nigerians positive Balance of Trade is not due to increased export activity but a massive fall in import demand due to weak currency which has seen our neighbours currency rise in value above ours for the first time since independence. Today, 1 CFA Franc is 2 naira. Meanwhile I'm 2022, the year before this regime, 1 CFA Franc was 0.68 naira. That's an over 200% gain over the naira in just 2 years. How is that something to celebrate? This has led to imprt being more expensive leading to a lot of manufacturing companies that depend on foreign inputs closing shop.

4. The fundamentals for the reserves rise is more foreign loans and a lot of foreign portfolio investments. These are being driven by Nigeria’s high interest rates which means high yield for bonds. This fundamentals are not really one to build an economy with. The focus should be on FDI which has remained weak and export proceeds which have also not been on the rise especially commensurate with the fall in imports as well. Of course, the effect is seen in the high debt servicing rate which has led to poor capital releases for the Federal budget, a situation that has led to 30% budget performance over 3 cycles and multiple budgets running and even rollovers. A strong external reserve should ordinarily lead to stronger imports but that's not seen to be the case here.

5. This is another lie. The fiscal deficit has widened. The budget performance of 30% and rollovers already shows weak fiscal performance so how can fiscal deficit be reduced when your budget is performing poorly. Where did you learn your economics from Op?

6. What is driving investor confidence is high interest rates and not the fundamentals of a thriving economy. That's why the investments is basically in portfolios and not real investments. This is not a serious progress for the economy. You can't build economic resurgence on portfolios that can disappear in a twinkle of an eye

7. Ratings are good but only so far as ease of getting loans and portfolios investments. They have no effect on the real economy or the average household income which incentivizes savings and investments in SMEs that should drive an economy

8. The Fx backlog inherited from the mismanagement by his political ally whom he supported and encouraged were cleared with loans. Nothing special here. The loans have to be repaid and some will be with our crude oil like the Afreximbank loan

9. State finances improved but at a high cost to households finances. Nigerians are poorer today than they've ever been in their lifetime. 63% poverty rate with attendant massive insecurity is no joke. Robbing Peter to pay Paul or being a robinhood for looting governors is nothing to applaud.

10. Oil and gas contributions to the Federation account is actually at its lowest ebb compared to the pre-covid era. The irony is that oil is selling at a premium presently and while Nigerians are feeling it at the pumps, while they are not seeing any improvement in national income especially from oil which used to be the main contributor. Oil income has massively plummeted through mismanagement inherited from his political ally some of which he has replicated or even taken up a notch.

In essence, Nigerians are actually worse off economically in this govt. Thank you

Kukutente23:
I really did not want to counter your thread as it seems more like a paid writeup drawn from AI but it seems you're beginning to believe your own falsehood which is a most dangerous thing. Lest you go to town with it feeling funky, take note of the following:

1. Fuel subsidy removal is not an achievement. Previous govts have tried to remove subsidy since 1999 most notably in 2012. Ironically, this same president mobilised people against the move then. And it was a popular move mainly because subsidy removal is an antisocial move. The cost of preventing the removal in 2012 and hypocritically removing it on the first day in office ultimately being borne by the masses. In 2012 when subsidy was removed, petrol price moved from 87 to 145 which is 85% increase. Conversely, in 2023, it moved from 197 to 630 at first instance and is now over 1300 which represents around a 700% increase. The difference in percentages (an alarming 615) is the opportunity cost of delaying that removal by 11 years which Tinubu is directly responsible for in the final analysis. So in actual fact, he should be apologising to Nigerians for making them lose 615% cushion over 10 years only to cluelessly throw them in the deep end. More importantly, the removal of subsidy has led to an increase in poverty rate by 10points from 51% to 63% in the space of 3 years. A policy that increases poverty can't be said to be a good economic move in the final analysis after all the idea behind an economy is meeting the needs of the people with the minimum cost.

2. As for multiple exchange rate, he can take credit for that but only so far as the fact that the mess was created by his fellow party man and former political ally Buhari whom he supported all through the creation of the mess. So it comes across again as hypocrisy if he supported his ally to mess up the forex and kept mute only to do an about turn when he got into office. Again, the currency devaluation was so badly mismanaged that the exchange rate was nearing N2000 to $1 before his govt reacted to bring things under control. This led to massive cost push inflation as manufacturers grappled with high input costs and led to price inflation at the shelf leading to shrinkage in real household income and massive high cost of living the likes that have never been witnessed in this country. Imagine an inflation rate of over 30%!!

3. False. Nigeria has been having a favourable BoT and BoP since 2021. Go and check your facts. More importantly, Nigerians positive Balance of Trade is not due to increased export activity but a massive fall in import demand due to weak currency which has seen our neighbours currency rise in value above ours for the first time since independence. Today, 1 CFA Franc is 2 naira. Meanwhile I'm 2022, the year before this regime, 1 CFA Franc was 0.68 naira. That's an over 200% gain over the naira in just 2 years. How is that something to celebrate? This has led to imprt being more expensive leading to a lot of manufacturing companies that depend on foreign inputs closing shop.

4. The fundamentals for the reserves rise is more foreign loans and a lot of foreign portfolio investments. These are being driven by Nigeria’s high interest rates which means high yield for bonds. This fundamentals are not really one to build an economy with. The focus should be on FDI which has remained weak and export proceeds which have also not been on the rise especially commensurate with the fall in imports as well. Of course, the effect is seen in the high debt servicing rate which has led to poor capital releases for the Federal budget, a situation that has led to 30% budget performance over 3 cycles and multiple budgets running and even rollovers. A strong external reserve should ordinarily lead to stronger imports but that's not seen to be the case here.

5. This is another lie. The fiscal deficit has widened. The budget performance of 30% and rollovers already shows weak fiscal performance so how can fiscal deficit be reduced when your budget is performing poorly. Where did you learn your economics from Op?

6. What is driving investor confidence is high interest rates and not the fundamentals of a thriving economy. That's why the investments is basically in portfolios and not real investments. This is not a serious progress for the economy. You can't build economic resurgence on portfolios that can disappear in a twinkle of an eye

7. Ratings are good but only so far as ease of getting loans and portfolios investments. They have no effect on the real economy or the average household income which incentivizes savings and investments in SMEs that should drive an economy

8. The Fx backlog inherited from the mismanagement by his political ally whom he supported and encouraged were cleared with loans. Nothing special here. The loans have to be repaid and some will be with our crude oil like the Afreximbank loan

9. State finances improved but at a high cost to households finances. Nigerians are poorer today than they've ever been in their lifetime. 63% poverty rate with attendant massive insecurity is no joke. Robbing Peter to pay Paul or being a robinhood for looting governors is nothing to applaud.

10. Oil and gas contributions to the Federation account is actually at its lowest ebb compared to the pre-covid era. The irony is that oil is selling at a premium presently and while Nigerians are feeling it at the pumps, while they are not seeing any improvement in national income especially from oil which used to be the main contributor. Oil income has massively plummeted through mismanagement inherited from his political ally some of which he has replicated or even taken up a notch.

In essence, Nigerians are actually worse off economically in this govt. Thank you

Thank you for this . i will be responding to your points one by one and be asking pertinent questions. i will appeal that we keep this issue based debate civil.
here is the first point i will like to respond to.
YOU WROTE
1. Fuel subsidy removal is not an achievement. Previous govts have tried to remove subsidy since 1999 most notably in 2012. Ironically, this same president mobilised people against the move then. And it was a popular move mainly because subsidy removal is an antisocial move. The cost of preventing the removal in 2012 and hypocritically removing it on the first day in office ultimately being borne by the masses. In 2012 when subsidy was removed, petrol price moved from 87 to 145 which is 85% increase. Conversely, in 2023, it moved from 197 to 630 at first instance and is now over 1300 which represents around a 700% increase. The difference in percentages (an alarming 615) is the opportunity cost of delaying that removal by 11 years which Tinubu is directly responsible for in the final analysis. So in actual fact, he should be apologising to Nigerians for making them lose 615% cushion over 10 years only to cluelessly throw them in the deep end. More importantly, the removal of subsidy has led to an increase in poverty rate by 10points from 51% to 63% in the space of 3 years. A policy that increases poverty can't be said to be a good economic move in the final analysis after all the idea behind an economy is meeting the needs of the people with the minimum cost.

MY RESPONSE

Subsidy removal was not presented as painless. It was presented as necessary.

By 2022, Nigeria was spending about ₦4 trillion on petrol subsidy — money that could not go to roads, schools, hospitals, security or states. Even the World Bank warned that the reform would hurt at first, but was needed to avoid a fiscal crisis.

The real question is not whether subsidy removal caused pain. It did.

The real question is: should Nigeria have continued borrowing trillions yearly to subsidise petrol, including for smugglers and richer consumers?

Also, blaming Tinubu alone for an 11-year delay is convenient politics. PDP, APC, labour, civil society and almost every major politician played politics with subsidy at different times.

So here are my simple questions:

If your candidate became President in 2023, would he have kept petrol subsidy?
More importantly, what is your candidate's plan for 2027?

Because elections are about the future, not merely anger over the past.[i][/i]

5. I ask the another question:

How will your candidate pay for it?

Where will the money come from?

And if yes, with what money?

If no, what exactly would he have done differently?

Finally , Finally. Who is your candidate?
Remember, let's keep this civil. no insults.
Next i will respond to your second point and promise to respond to all your points.

CharlesCNG:
Thank you for this . i will be responding to your points one by one and be asking pertinent questions. i will appeal that we keep this issue based debate civil.
here is the first point i will like to respond to.
YOU WROTE
1. Fuel subsidy removal is not an achievement. Previous govts have tried to remove subsidy since 1999 most notably in 2012. Ironically, this same president mobilised people against the move then. And it was a popular move mainly because subsidy removal is an antisocial move. The cost of preventing the removal in 2012 and hypocritically removing it on the first day in office ultimately being borne by the masses. In 2012 when subsidy was removed, petrol price moved from 87 to 145 which is 85% increase. Conversely, in 2023, it moved from 197 to 630 at first instance and is now over 1300 which represents around a 700% increase. The difference in percentages (an alarming 615) is the opportunity cost of delaying that removal by 11 years which Tinubu is directly responsible for in the final analysis. So in actual fact, he should be apologising to Nigerians for making them lose 615% cushion over 10 years only to cluelessly throw them in the deep end. More importantly, the removal of subsidy has led to an increase in poverty rate by 10points from 51% to 63% in the space of 3 years. A policy that increases poverty can't be said to be a good economic move in the final analysis after all the idea behind an economy is meeting the needs of the people with the minimum cost.

MY RESPONSE

Subsidy removal was not presented as painless. It was presented as necessary.

By 2022, Nigeria was spending about ₦4 trillion on petrol subsidy — money that could not go to roads, schools, hospitals, security or states. Even the World Bank warned that the reform would hurt at first, but was needed to avoid a fiscal crisis.

The real question is not whether subsidy removal caused pain. It did.

The real question is: should Nigeria have continued borrowing trillions yearly to subsidise petrol, including for smugglers and richer consumers?

Also, blaming Tinubu alone for an 11-year delay is convenient politics. PDP, APC, labour, civil society and almost every major politician played politics with subsidy at different times.

So here are my simple questions:

If your candidate became President in 2023, would he have kept petrol subsidy?
More importantly, what is your candidate's plan for 2027?

Because elections are about the future, not merely anger over the past.[i][/i]

5. I ask the another question:

How will your candidate pay for it?

Where will the money come from?

And if yes, with what money?

If no, what exactly would he have done differently?

Finally , Finally. Who is your candidate?
Remember, let's keep this civil. no insults.
Next i will respond to your second point and promise to respond to all your points.

So where is the N4trn now? Has the borrowing stopped? Where is the effect of the borrowing now in the economy?

I have not blamed Tinubu alone for the anti-subsidy removal protest. What I'm calling attention to is the hypocrisy of preventing previous govts from carrying out a policy only for you to turn around and attempt to take credit for the same policy. It's like Judas being responsible for the killing of Jesus and then turning around to say he is responsible for the work of salvation that was done by the death of Jesus. Judas should be ashamed not pompous.

I find the questions about what my candidate will do most annoyingly absurd. Tinubu has not done anything different from those he criticised and you adulate him. Yet you're asking me to tell you what my candidate will do different. Why didn't you ask Tinubu what he'll do different when he was protesting against subsidy removal in 2012? Have you asked him what he's doing differently in terms of loans compared to previous govts? So why are you asking the same questions you refused to ask him from others? Besides, he's the one on seat now and should be the one telling us how he's handled the ship of state economy-wise instead of gaslighting the opposition about what they'll do. If you're in a vehicle being driven by a drunk driver, do you ask what the next driver will do differently before kicking the drunk dude out of the driver's seat? A failure should be removed. Not manufacturing excuses.
Thank you

Kukutente23:
So where is the N4trn now? Has the borrowing stopped? Where is the effect of the borrowing now in the economy?

I have not blamed Tinubu alone for the anti-subsidy removal protest. What I'm calling attention to is the hypocrisy of preventing previous govts from carrying out a policy only for you to turn around and attempt to take credit for the same policy. It's like Judas being responsible for the killing of Jesus and then turning around to say he is responsible for the work of salvation that was done by the death of Jesus. Judas should be ashamed not pompous.

I find the questions about what my candidate will do most annoyingly absurd. Tinubu has not done anything different from those he criticised and you adulate him. Yet you're asking me to tell you what my candidate will do different. Why didn't you ask Tinubu what he'll do different when he was protesting against subsidy removal in 2012? Have you asked him what he's doing differently in terms of loans compared to previous govts? So why are you asking the same questions you refused to ask him from others? Besides, he's the one on seat now and should be the one telling us how he's handled the ship of state economy-wise instead of gaslighting the opposition about what they'll do. If you're in a vehicle being driven by a drunk driver, do you ask what the next driver will do differently before kicking the drunk dude out of the driver's seat? A failure should be removed. Not manufacturing excuses.
Thank you

This is a thoughtful response, but I think it misses a few important points.

First, nobody said the ₦4 trillion previously spent on subsidy magically disappeared poverty or eliminated borrowing. The point is that an unsustainable fiscal leak was removed. Stopping a leak does not instantly make a house beautiful; it simply prevents further damage.

Second, on hypocrisy, I agree that politicians should be held accountable for their previous positions. Tinubu can be criticised for his 2012 position. But inconsistency is not unique to him. Many who supported subsidy removal then oppose it today, while many who opposed it then support it now. Politics is full of ironies.

Third, I completely agree that the incumbent must be judged. That is the essence of democracy.

But democracy also requires comparison.

Removing a driver is not enough. Someone else must take the wheel.

And that is where your analogy breaks down.

Before removing the driver, any responsible passenger would want to know:

Who is the replacement?

Can he drive?

Does he have a destination?

Does he have fuel?

Or are we merely changing drivers because we are angry?

That is why the question of alternatives is not absurd. It is essential.

No serious electorate chooses between perfection and imperfection. They choose between available alternatives.

So yes, judge Tinubu.

But also tell Nigerians:

Who is your candidate?

What exactly would he have done differently in 2023?

What is his plan for 2027?

How does he intend to pay for it?

Because elections are not referendums on anger.

They are choices between competing visions.

And every vision must eventually submit itself to the test of practical reality.

Kukutente23:
I really did not want to counter your thread as it seems more like a paid writeup drawn from AI but it seems you're beginning to believe your own falsehood which is a most dangerous thing. Lest you go to town with it feeling funky, take note of the following:

1. Fuel subsidy removal is not an achievement. Previous govts have tried to remove subsidy since 1999 most notably in 2012. Ironically, this same president mobilised people against the move then. And it was a popular move mainly because subsidy removal is an antisocial move. The cost of preventing the removal in 2012 and hypocritically removing it on the first day in office ultimately being borne by the masses. In 2012 when subsidy was removed, petrol price moved from 87 to 145 which is 85% increase. Conversely, in 2023, it moved from 197 to 630 at first instance and is now over 1300 which represents around a 700% increase. The difference in percentages (an alarming 615) is the opportunity cost of delaying that removal by 11 years which Tinubu is directly responsible for in the final analysis. So in actual fact, he should be apologising to Nigerians for making them lose 615% cushion over 10 years only to cluelessly throw them in the deep end. More importantly, the removal of subsidy has led to an increase in poverty rate by 10points from 51% to 63% in the space of 3 years. A policy that increases poverty can't be said to be a good economic move in the final analysis after all the idea behind an economy is meeting the needs of the people with the minimum cost.

2. As for multiple exchange rate, he can take credit for that but only so far as the fact that the mess was created by his fellow party man and former political ally Buhari whom he supported all through the creation of the mess. So it comes across again as hypocrisy if he supported his ally to mess up the forex and kept mute only to do an about turn when he got into office. Again, the currency devaluation was so badly mismanaged that the exchange rate was nearing N2000 to $1 before his govt reacted to bring things under control. This led to massive cost push inflation as manufacturers grappled with high input costs and led to price inflation at the shelf leading to shrinkage in real household income and massive high cost of living the likes that have never been witnessed in this country. Imagine an inflation rate of over 30%!!

3. False. Nigeria has been having a favourable BoT and BoP since 2021. Go and check your facts. More importantly, Nigerians positive Balance of Trade is not due to increased export activity but a massive fall in import demand due to weak currency which has seen our neighbours currency rise in value above ours for the first time since independence. Today, 1 CFA Franc is 2 naira. Meanwhile I'm 2022, the year before this regime, 1 CFA Franc was 0.68 naira. That's an over 200% gain over the naira in just 2 years. How is that something to celebrate? This has led to imprt being more expensive leading to a lot of manufacturing companies that depend on foreign inputs closing shop.

4. The fundamentals for the reserves rise is more foreign loans and a lot of foreign portfolio investments. These are being driven by Nigeria’s high interest rates which means high yield for bonds. This fundamentals are not really one to build an economy with. The focus should be on FDI which has remained weak and export proceeds which have also not been on the rise especially commensurate with the fall in imports as well. Of course, the effect is seen in the high debt servicing rate which has led to poor capital releases for the Federal budget, a situation that has led to 30% budget performance over 3 cycles and multiple budgets running and even rollovers. A strong external reserve should ordinarily lead to stronger imports but that's not seen to be the case here.

5. This is another lie. The fiscal deficit has widened. The budget performance of 30% and rollovers already shows weak fiscal performance so how can fiscal deficit be reduced when your budget is performing poorly. Where did you learn your economics from Op?

6. What is driving investor confidence is high interest rates and not the fundamentals of a thriving economy. That's why the investments is basically in portfolios and not real investments. This is not a serious progress for the economy. You can't build economic resurgence on portfolios that can disappear in a twinkle of an eye

7. Ratings are good but only so far as ease of getting loans and portfolios investments. They have no effect on the real economy or the average household income which incentivizes savings and investments in SMEs that should drive an economy

8. The Fx backlog inherited from the mismanagement by his political ally whom he supported and encouraged were cleared with loans. Nothing special here. The loans have to be repaid and some will be with our crude oil like the Afreximbank loan

9. State finances improved but at a high cost to households finances. Nigerians are poorer today than they've ever been in their lifetime. 63% poverty rate with attendant massive insecurity is no joke. Robbing Peter to pay Paul or being a robinhood for looting governors is nothing to applaud.

10. Oil and gas contributions to the Federation account is actually at its lowest ebb compared to the pre-covid era. The irony is that oil is selling at a premium presently and while Nigerians are feeling it at the pumps, while they are not seeing any improvement in national income especially from oil which used to be the main contributor. Oil income has massively plummeted through mismanagement inherited from his political ally some of which he has replicated or even taken up a notch.

In essence, Nigerians are actually worse off economically in this govt. Thank you

MY RESPONSE TO REASON NUMBER TWO

YOU WROTE
2. As for multiple exchange rate, he can take credit for that but only so far as the fact that the mess was created by his fellow party man and former political ally Buhari whom he supported all through the creation of the mess. So it comes across again as hypocrisy if he supported his ally to mess up the forex and kept mute only to do an about turn when he got into office. Again, the currency devaluation was so badly mismanaged that the exchange rate was nearing N2000 to $1 before his govt reacted to bring things under control. This led to massive cost push inflation as manufacturers grappled with high input costs and led to price inflation at the shelf leading to shrinkage in real household income and massive high cost of living the likes that have never been witnessed in this country. Imagine an inflation rate of over 30%!!

MY RESPONSE

Nobody disputes that the unification of the exchange rate came with pain. Inflation rose sharply and households and businesses felt the impact.

But let us separate two questions:

Was the multiple exchange rate regime unsustainable?

And if so, what was the alternative?

The old system encouraged arbitrage, corruption and rent-seeking. Those with privileged access bought dollars cheaply from official windows and sold them at huge profits while ordinary Nigerians and genuine manufacturers suffered. Virtually every serious economist, the IMF, the World Bank and many opposition figures agreed that the system was unsustainable.

So yes, there was pain in dismantling it.

But delaying reforms does not make them easier. It often makes them more painful.

The more important question is this:

What exactly would your candidate have done differently in 2023?

Would he have maintained the multiple exchange rates indefinitely?

Would he have continued rationing dollars and subsidising privileged access?

If not, how would he have unified the exchange rate without an initial adjustment?

More importantly:

What is your candidate's plan for 2027?

How does he intend to pay for it?

And finally, who exactly is your candidate?

Because criticism is easy.

But governing requires choices, and every choice has costs.

CharlesCNG:
This is a thoughtful response, but I think it misses a few important points.

First, nobody said the ₦4 trillion previously spent on subsidy magically disappeared poverty or eliminated borrowing. The point is that an unsustainable fiscal leak was removed. Stopping a leak does not instantly make a house beautiful; it simply prevents further damage.

Second, on hypocrisy, I agree that politicians should be held accountable for their previous positions. Tinubu can be criticised for his 2012 position. But inconsistency is not unique to him. Many who supported subsidy removal then oppose it today, while many who opposed it then support it now. Politics is full of ironies.

Third, I completely agree that the incumbent must be judged. That is the essence of democracy.

But democracy also requires comparison.

Removing a driver is not enough. Someone else must take the wheel.

And that is where your analogy breaks down.

Before removing the driver, any responsible passenger would want to know:

Who is the replacement?

Can he drive?

Does he have a destination?

Does he have fuel?

Or are we merely changing drivers because we are angry?

That is why the question of alternatives is not absurd. It is essential.

No serious electorate chooses between perfection and imperfection. They choose between available alternatives.

So yes, judge Tinubu.

But also tell Nigerians:

Who is your candidate?

What exactly would he have done differently in 2023?

What is his plan for 2027?

How does he intend to pay for it?

Because elections are not referendums on anger.

They are choices between competing visions.

And every vision must eventually submit itself to the test of practical reality.

How is subsidy payment a leak in one breath and in another breath its removal is not expected to improve anything just stop a leak and that's it. Do you even know what a leakage means? It means waste. If you stop waste, you should have plenty in return. Saying you stop waste but still in lack shows maybe there was no waste in the first place or your focus is wrong.

Is subsidy removal a political question or an economic question? When you start reducing serious economic issues to politics and political games, what you get is a broken economy like ours. Economics does not respect political games or brinksmanship. It has its own laws. If Tinubu can't separate a political question from an economic one then h has no business governing a country like Nigeria with its complex problems

It is meaningless waste of time to ask what my candidate looked like in 2023 or asking what he would have done differently since 2023. That's an academic question since he wasn't named President and therfore we can't judge him on a position he has not attained. The fulcrum of your article is too justify why Tinubu deserves a second term. Stop digressing to what the opposition will do differently. That's a waste of time. Let's focus on whether Tinubu has justified the mandate given him and should seek a renewal or not. Ab attempt to drag the opposition into this discussion is purely diabolical

YOU AND YOUR GENERATION WILL SUFFER

CharlesCNG:
1. He inspires emotion, but he does not impose order.
A president must control a coalition, not just excite a crowd.

2. He changes platforms too easily.
A man still searching for a stable political roof should not be asking for the keys to Aso Rock.

3. He has enthusiasm, not enduring structure.
Hashtags can trend, but only structure wins power and sustains it.

4. His support base often repels the allies he needs.
A movement known more for abuse than alternatives shrinks its own coalition.

5. He speaks like a lecturer, not always like a coalition builder.
Nigeria needs persuasion, not just presentations.

6[b]. He rode a wave in 2023 but could not preserve the gains.[/b]
Winning seats is one thing; keeping them under one roof is another.

7. He struggles to discipline loyalists.
A man who cannot manage followers will struggle to manage a federation.

8. He benefits from protest energy, but protest is not governance.
Anger can launch a campaign; it cannot run a country.

9. He is strongest in passion-heavy zones, weaker in broad national spread.
Regional intensity is not the same as national viability.

10. He criticizes loudly, but the alternative often sounds thin.
A president must offer more than complaint.


Peter Obi may still inspire a passionate following, but passion is not preparation, noise is not nation-building, and excitement is not executive capacity. Nigeria needs more than a protest candidate in a polished shirt. It needs a leader with structure, discipline, coalition depth, and the hard temperament to govern a difficult federation.

CharlesCNG:
1. He inspires emotion, but he does not impose order.
A president must control a coalition, not just excite a crowd.

2. He changes platforms too easily.
A man still searching for a stable political roof should not be asking for the keys to Aso Rock.

3. He has enthusiasm, not enduring structure.
Hashtags can trend, but only structure wins power and sustains it.

4. His support base often repels the allies he needs.
A movement known more for abuse than alternatives shrinks its own coalition.

5. He speaks like a lecturer, not always like a coalition builder.
Nigeria needs persuasion, not just presentations.

6[b]. He rode a wave in 2023 but could not preserve the gains.[/b]
Winning seats is one thing; keeping them under one roof is another.

7. He struggles to discipline loyalists.
A man who cannot manage followers will struggle to manage a federation.

8. He benefits from protest energy, but protest is not governance.
Anger can launch a campaign; it cannot run a country.

9. He is strongest in passion-heavy zones, weaker in broad national spread.
Regional intensity is not the same as national viability.

10. He criticizes loudly, but the alternative often sounds thin.
A president must offer more than complaint.


Peter Obi may still inspire a passionate following, but passion is not preparation, noise is not nation-building, and excitement is not executive capacity. Nigeria needs more than a protest candidate in a polished shirt. It needs a leader with structure, discipline, coalition depth, and the hard temperament to govern a difficult federation.

11. He has no bullion vans to offer you .which is the most important thing to you
You will now receive 87 bullion vans from the CEO bullion vans manufacturing company for this write up to use hold body this weekend. When I told you the devil is a liar you will think it's an insult

CharlesCNG:
MY RESPONSE TO REASON NUMBER TWO

YOU WROTE
2. As for multiple exchange rate, he can take credit for that but only so far as the fact that the mess was created by his fellow party man and former political ally Buhari whom he supported all through the creation of the mess. So it comes across again as hypocrisy if he supported his ally to mess up the forex and kept mute only to do an about turn when he got into office. Again, the currency devaluation was so badly mismanaged that the exchange rate was nearing N2000 to $1 before his govt reacted to bring things under control. This led to massive cost push inflation as manufacturers grappled with high input costs and led to price inflation at the shelf leading to shrinkage in real household income and massive high cost of living the likes that have never been witnessed in this country. Imagine an inflation rate of over 30%!!

MY RESPONSE

Nobody disputes that the unification of the exchange rate came with pain. Inflation rose sharply and households and businesses felt the impact.

But let us separate two questions:

Was the multiple exchange rate regime unsustainable?

And if so, what was the alternative?

The old system encouraged arbitrage, corruption and rent-seeking. Those with privileged access bought dollars cheaply from official windows and sold them at huge profits while ordinary Nigerians and genuine manufacturers suffered. Virtually every serious economist, the IMF, the World Bank and many opposition figures agreed that the system was unsustainable.

So yes, there was pain in dismantling it.

But delaying reforms does not make them easier. It often makes them more painful.

The more important question is this:

What exactly would your candidate have done differently in 2023?

Would he have maintained the multiple exchange rates indefinitely?

Would he have continued rationing dollars and subsidising privileged access?

If not, how would he have unified the exchange rate without an initial adjustment?

More importantly:

What is your candidate's plan for 2027?

How does he intend to pay for it?

And finally, who exactly is your candidate?

Because criticism is easy.

But governing requires choices, and every choice has costs.

It's good to see you now agree that delaying reforms only make them more painful. You're only echoing what I started with about fuel subsidy removal which you tried to rationalise.
You didn't respond to the posers I raised though. You seem to be permanently fixated on who my candidate is and what alternative he offers. That's a waste of precious time
Your topic says 50 problems Tinubu has solved. How does who my candidate is add or remove from that topic

CharlesCNG:
Calling someone a kitchen table does not answer a single point. It only confirms that you came to the discussion without argument and are now trying to leave with insult. Empty heads often borrow big mouths.

A serious mind responds to points. A shallow one responds to people. Thank you for showing the difference.

Dealing with business matters and working on some projects here in Yankee 😅 Look for something better to do with your life ok. You may be dealing with a curse for mentioning people. Be guided. 🤔

ngmgeek:
Dealing with business matters and working on some projects here in Yankee 😅 Look for something better to do with your life ok. You may be dealing with a curse for mentioning people. Be guided. 🤔

Thank you. I wish you success in your business ventures in Yankee.

However, the moment we replace arguments with curses, we have abandoned politics and entered theology.

I presented ten reasons why I will not vote for Peter Obi.

You presented zero reasons why I should.

Instead, you warned me about curses.

That tells me everything I need to know.

Presidential candidates are not deities, and disagreement is not blasphemy.

I am doing very well, thank you.

And I suspect I shall continue to do very well by thinking critically, asking questions and refusing to outsource my conscience to politicians.

Be guided too.

ogolemati:

11. He has no bullion vans to offer you .which is the most important thing to you
You will now receive 87 bullion vans from the CEO bullion vans manufacturing company for this write up to use hold body this weekend. When I told you the devil is a liar you will think it's an insult

I brought ten reasons.

You brought ten hallucinations.

I discussed politics.

You discussed bullion vans.

I raised issues.

You raised demons.

And you wonder why people speak of the cult-like tendencies of a section of the Obidient movement.

Some movements produce arguments.

Others produce outrage.

Some produce facts.

Others produce emotional stampedes.

The inability to answer criticism without resorting to fantasies, insults and mob tactics is not a sign of intellectual confidence.

It is a sign of insecurity.

My reasons remain.

Your gibberish changes nothing.

CharlesCNG:
I brought ten reasons.

You brought ten hallucinations.

I discussed politics.

You discussed bullion vans.

I raised issues.

You raised demons.

And you wonder why people speak of the cult-like tendencies of a section of the Obidient movement.

Some movements produce arguments.

Others produce outrage.

Some produce facts.

Others produce emotional stampedes.

The inability to answer criticism without resorting to fantasies, insults and mob tactics is not a sign of intellectual confidence.

It is a sign of insecurity.

My reasons remain.

Your gibberish changes nothing.

i understand you .when you get your B back let me know

CharlesCNG:
Thank you. I wish you success in your business ventures in Yankee.

However, the moment we replace arguments with curses, we have abandoned politics and entered theology.

I presented ten reasons why I will not vote for Peter Obi.

You presented zero reasons why I should.

Instead, you warned me about curses.

That tells me everything I need to know.

Presidential candidates are not deities, and disagreement is not blasphemy.

I am doing very well, thank you.

And I suspect I shall continue to do very well by thinking critically, asking questions and refusing to outsource my conscience to politicians.

Be guided too.

Stop writing what you know nothing about. You don't know Peter Obi, and that's why you need to focus on what you know 😉 okay. You created this problem and not me and others.