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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 1:17pm On Jun 13
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 1:26pm On Jun 13
Namaster:
At this point I FIRMLY believe that even if people crowdsource commonsense for them, they'd issue a FATWA against it and declare it HARAM.

grin
🤣😂😀

there is not enough common sense in the known universe that can make up for the gargantuan deficit

their reformist leaders are the newest species of humans
homo stupidus

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 1:46pm On Jun 13
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Alamkiir:
T So oil is falling to the tanks like waterfall. Where are you taking it from?
Even if it's true why not keep enjoying the oil? Why are you informing Iran?
Because it never happened.

Pedolf just trolling Iran to look tough and smart to its gullible supporters. I like the way Iran is ignoring his bogus claims since it changes nothing on the ground.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 1:51pm On Jun 13
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 1:52pm On Jun 13
⚡France may exit the Franco-German MGCS tank project — the third major bilateral defense program to collapse after the FCAS fighter jet was scrapped last week.

Rheinmetall CEO says France is considering cutting the budget to less than half, and the project has paid out just €25M total since 2017.

Franco-German defense cooperation is unraveling.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 1:53pm On Jun 13
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 2:07pm On Jun 13
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 2:18pm On Jun 13
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 2:36pm On Jun 13
⚡Airbus is increasingly considering partnering with Sweden’s Saab after the collapse of the Franco-German-Spanish FCAS next-generation fighter program.

Airbus and Saab have held exploratory talks for at least six months, supported by improving German-Swedish defense ties.

Airbus is also evaluating involvement in the UK-Italy-Japan GCAP fighter project, with Leonardo signaling Germany would be a welcome partner.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 2:38pm On Jun 13
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 3:04pm On Jun 13
⚡Qatar has proposed a $12 billion package for Iran to break the deadlock in talks: $6 billion would come from releasing Iran’s frozen funds in Qatar, while another $6 billion would be provided as a loan or credit line.

The previously agreed restrictions on the $6 billion released funds—limiting them to humanitarian spending under the 2023 Iran-U.S. framework—would remain in place.

Iran would be able to decide how to use the additional $6 billion credit facility.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 3:04pm On Jun 13
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 3:06pm On Jun 13
⚡A deal between the United States and Iran could be finalised within the next 24 hours, Pakistan’s prime minister has said.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 3:38pm On Jun 13
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 3:44pm On Jun 13
shoodboi2:
.

At the beginning of the Russia-Ukraine war, Russia repeatedly mentioned that the US was running bioweapon labs in Ukraine and planning to use these bioweapons on Russians in Russia and Russian-speaking people in the Donbass.

Ukraine and the US through the CIA and US media lied about this and turned around to claim that it was Russia that was creating a pretext to using bioweapons in Ukraine. Once Russia captured a bioweapons lab in Mariupol, the US media and Ukraine went mute.

And now, this is Tulsi Gabbard, the US Director of National Intelligence, confirming the US really has a bioweapons lab in Ukraine. The technique we saw US and Ukraine use is a well-documented propaganda technique called DARVO, which I have repeatedly mentioned here:

D = Deny - Deny the accusation just as they denied producing bioweapons in Ukraine

A = Attack - Attack the character of the people who accuse them just as they accused Russia of human rights abuses once Russia kept claiming they were producing bioweapons

RVO = Reverse Victim and Offender - Claim the victim is the offender and tag the offender as the victim, just as they tagged Russia, the victim of the would-be bioweapons, as the ones wanting to use bioweapons in Ukraine, while the offenders, Ukraine and the US in this case, were positioned as the would-be victims of these Russian bioweapons
They also have these labs in Nigeria. The Russians exposed it.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 3:50pm On Jun 13
shoodboi2:
That guy is a semi-autonomous human drone. Trump didn't even say he was mining Iran's oil out of the ground. What he said was that the US was guiding tankers and ships out of the strait of Hormuz at night, and that Iran couldn't detect them because Iran doesn't have radars and the ships had their lights out.

So, I wonder how this one concluded or got his own information that the US was mining and pumping Iran's oil? Funny enough, Energy Secretary, Chris Wright, stopped short of calling Trump a liar and just said he was unaware of this happening.
That guy is lost to reality. I bet he even doubt his own existence.

I have blocked him already.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 3:52pm On Jun 13
WriteerNg:
⚡The United Arab Emirates is set to unlock billions of dollars for Iran.

At least $10 billion will be released, with the first $3 billion already delivered, and the total could reach $20 billion in exchange for a halt to attacks and renewed economic and intelligence cooperation.

A UAE official said the country seeks de‑escalation and regional stability.
Like I said, everything will end on Iranian terms and conditions.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 3:58pm On Jun 13
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 3:58pm On Jun 13
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 3:59pm On Jun 13
⚡A tanker was struck by an unknown projectile 6 nautical miles east of Oman in the Gulf of Oman.

The crew is reported safe with no environmental impact. The vessel is continuing to its next port of call.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 4:04pm On Jun 13
WriterrNg:
⚡Qatar has proposed a $12 billion package for Iran to break the deadlock in talks: $6 billion would come from releasing Iran’s frozen funds in Qatar, while another $6 billion would be provided as a loan or credit line.

The previously agreed restrictions on the $6 billion released funds—limiting them to humanitarian spending under the 2023 Iran-U.S. framework—would remain in place.

Iran would be able to decide how to use the additional $6 billion credit facility.
under the 2023 iran-us agreement
iran released 6 us prisoners
in return the us released 5 iranian prisoners and released $6B of frozen funds

this deal was negotiated by the conservatives
when raisi was president

this was supposed to be a confidence-building deal for a new negotiation for reactivation of an amended jcpoa

night and day difference between the conservatives and reformists

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 4:06pm On Jun 13
LordAdam16:
iran should still insist on unfreezing their money

this settlement money with the gulf states is separate from the frozen funds




it is funny sha

the epstein 🤡🤡 told the emiratis to deploy their soldiers to seize two iranian islands
and they were like f*ck that
next thing they did was invite irgc generals to abu dhabi and made a deal

you want mk onlyfans sheikh dey carry ak for wetin
people wen dey enjoy soft life

-Lord
grin

Omo. That backdoor deal took the US by surprise. Trump acted like he authorized it to save face.grin

Now that the UAE, Saudi and Qatar are out, Iran can now have enough breathing space to concentrate its missiles on the rest, especially on the genocidal vipers.

But, things can change quickly. What if the US, given their level of treasury, starts relaunching attacks from those countries towards Iran, won't that force Iran to respond by hitting back at them despite the deal that has been struck?

Whatever, the US is only delaying the obvious: Iran will have everything end on its terms.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 4:20pm On Jun 13
⚡Iran's Foreign Ministry:

Our negotiating team has no plans to travel to Geneva or any other location during the next two days.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 4:25pm On Jun 13
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 4:26pm On Jun 13
WriteerNg:
⚡Ukrainian heavyweight boxing champion Oleksandr Usyk met with Trump at the White House.
Unfortunately military brain power is different from boxing and mere hand fight...

UK USA evil nato always want to push the narrative that Ukraine are tough lol... As if boxing is equivalent to military genius
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 4:28pm On Jun 13
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 4:29pm On Jun 13
⚡AfD MEP Alexander Sell:

We want nuclear power. We do not want to exit coal.

We also want to import Russian gas — we are not in favor of the sanctions.

The sanctions have hurt us more than the Russians.

The Russians are just exporting their gas and oil to China or to India, and India is selling us diesel and kerosene at much higher prices.


Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 4:31pm On Jun 13
⚡AfD MEP Alexander Sell:

Germany's bankrupt.

Last year the German federal budget — one quarter could not be covered without going into debt.

That situation is getting worse because tax estimations for this year are getting worse — because of the economic crisis, because of layoffs, less taxes coming in.

Germany cannot keep on paying for the European Union. Germany is paying the lion's share — one quarter.

Brussels wants twice as much, which will add up to 50 billion euros from Germany. It's not going to work."


Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 4:35pm On Jun 13
Appleyard:
grin

Omo. That backdoor deal took the US by surprise. Trump acted like he authorized it to save face.grin

Now that the UAE, Saudi and Qatar are out, Iran can now have enough breathing space to concentrate its missiles on the rest, especially on the genocidal vipers.

But, things can change quickly. What if the US, given their level of treasury, starts relaunching attacks from those countries towards Iran, won't that force Iran to respond by hitting back at them despite the deal that has been struck?

Whatever, the US is only delaying the obvious: Iran will have everything end on its terms.
there are bilateral/multilateral discussions happening in the background about a regional non-aggression pact

these money deals form part of preparatory moves toward that
there are ongoing tête-à-tête about how to manage tensions during the war/ceasefire

still, there are thresholds
the us will not hit iran's oil/gas infrastructure
and iran will refuse to hit uae, qatar, saudi infrastructure because of an "understanding" or a couple of billions




interestingly, the pact will have military and economic components

the firm participants are pakistan, turkey, iran, saudi, oman, and qatar
uae is the surprise addition and it is still unclear if they will want to be included in a broad pact or have a separate bilateral understanding with iran
egypt is still sorta pissed at iran because the houthis cost them billions in lost revenue from suez canal biz, so they aren't exactly enthusiastic about it nor are they opposed
kuwait, bahrain, and jordan have zero agency so they will not be part of the discussions, they'll only sign on after the details are ironed out or have their interests covered/introduced by a third party

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 4:36pm On Jun 13
LordAdam16:
under the 2023 iran-us agreement
iran released 6 us prisoners
in return the us released 5 iranian prisoners and released $6B of frozen funds

this deal was negotiated by the conservatives
when raisi was president

this was supposed to be a confidence-building deal for a new negotiation for reactivation of an amended jcpoa

night and day difference between the conservatives and reformists

-Lord


Omo these Americans no sabi make deals. They like to act tough but no really sabi anything.

There's no scenario where Russia will swap prisoners with anyone, still give you cash join.

It can never happen.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 4:43pm On Jun 13
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