₦airaland Forum

tanigororo:
How is that your own business?

OAkanni001:
Quote a verifiable and unbiased media company not one single individual that has taken a side in the conflict. Boko Haram released them just like they did to the Muslims among the Chibok girls right or other kidnapped victims.

Don't just accept every cock and bull story you read from the internet. You've got a brain to investigate not a dummy up there.

Quote a verifiable media or newspaper outlet in Nigeria.

Nextjs:
It became our business when people are killed, children and women killed, land disposessed

By a particular set of people and barbaric faith believe

Nextjs:
Why should u banned Christians Who are followers of jesus Christ?

Jesus never encouraged violence
He told us to pray for our enemies
When they wanted to arrest him he told Peter to put away his sword.
He forgive the thief on the cross of calvery.
Prayed for those who killed him.


Compared him to Muhammed teachings who forbid moslems from wishing peace to the jews n unbelievers.
Muhammed lived by the sword and encourage his followers to be on military campaigns to spread his teachings

CannibalEast:
I will tell you why bible should be ban after you answer my questions.

Do you believe jesus is God?

Nextjs:
Yes jesus is God.

He is our saviour who came to redeem us to salvation.
. Jesus is not a prophet rather a God, the word of God himself.

The way to God. He said
John 10vs 1
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

CannibalEast:
So who order the killing in 1 Samuel 15:1 to 7?

Nextjs:
According to that verse. The isrealies went to war with the Amalakite who had attacked them previously when they left Egypt.

CannibalEast:
Who order the killing is what I asked?

dettolgel:
Not that I cared about what the op said, but please these are old testament.

Christ came and provided us with new instruction of love. So can you show us any of such quote from you since the time of Jesus Christ?

Nextjs:
Why should u banned Christians Who are followers of jesus Christ?

Jesus never encouraged violence
He told us to pray for our enemies
When they wanted to arrest him he told Peter to put away his sword.
He forgive the thief on the cross of calvery.
Prayed for those who killed him.


Compared him to Muhammed teachings who forbid moslems from wishing peace to the jews n unbelievers.
Muhammed lived by the sword and encourage his followers to be on military campaigns to spread his teachings

Ebenezer2021:
exactly.
Christians are Christ followers so he should post where Christ ordered us to kill disbelievers abi wetin Quran dey call am

davillian:
All bandits are Muslim
All terrorist are Muslim

Nextjs:
The average northern doesn't see the yorubas as true moslems

The average Arabs don't see black moslems as true moslems.

Boko haram don't see moderate moslems as moslems.

For an example in kwara state when they attack woro communities. The king or emir said they came and told them that they are coming to preach their version of moslems when they refused they launched their attack

Edojoma:
Ur whole argument is void from d beginning, cos u don't even understand wat u r saying.. Religion is in practice not texts... Assuming Muslims are not killing people in Allah' s name, most people wouldn't know these verses exist, Islam in practice is a time bomb n not good for any society...

Mind u, d verses u quote from d old testament l, when Jesus came in d new testament, it all changed. It's no longer an eye for an eye, no longer d law of Moses, but just one

LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS UR FATHER IN HEAVEN LOVED YOU...

TURN THE OTHE CHEEK WEN U ARE SLAPPED

NO GREATER LOVE A MAN HAS FOR HIS NEIGHBOR DAN TO LAY HIS LIFE DOWN FOR HIS NEIGHBOR....

That's y u don't see Christians go haywire like Muslims, cos there are no verses dat support killing, instead forgiveness...

That's y wen u c or hear a Christian or pastors commit atrocities, dey always say it's d devils work... But a Muslim will never say dat, cos dey have justification in d quran...

And a book (quran) dat is believed by muslims to be dictated by allah, directly to prophet Mohammad, n such it's content can't be altered, edited or revised, cos dey believe it's revealed by allah...

U c d problem now..

A religion dat believed in dat if someone leaves he should be killed, Jihad, sharia, nikka mutah(which I call prostitution), yizia, fatuas n all... U still here defending such in dis modern era....

A religion dat makes up 90% of terrorists in d world, yet u defend it.. a religion dat uphold itself above humanity, yet u believe it.. baba, u must be sick

A religion dat rapes, kill, behead, give out kids for marriage, makes women second class citizens, commits suicide, a religion believed to b above d constitution of any country dey reside... Dats madness

Surah At-Tawbah (9:5): Often referred to as the "Sword Verse," it states: "But once the Sacred Months have passed, kill the polytheists wherever you find them, capture them, besiege them, and lie in wait for them on every way.

Surah Al-Anfal (8:12): Describes divine intervention in battle: "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. So strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip." 

Thanks be to God who says: "O Prophet, fight the infidels and the hypocrites and be harsh with them. Their abode is hell, and what an unfortunate fate ...

Surah An-Nisa 4:24
"So for whatever you enjoy (istamta'tum) of marriage from them, give them their due compensation as an obligation. And there is no blame upon you for what you mutually agree to beyond the obligation." (This is nikka mutah, temporary marriage in Islam,it can be for a hours, den u pay) Wats d difference with prostitution, cos both gets paid..

Let me end here.... If u wanna debate Islam, just let me know, so we arrange n bring facts from ur Quran n surah

Nextjs:
Eye witnesses who survived often says the first shout they here is allah ku aba and then u see killings.


Its important we critically examine the teachings from the quran. Although some moderate moslems will try to distance themselves.

But the truth remains the truth.

U hardly see moslems preach their messages by doorstep. It has always been by swoord and conquest

OAkanni001:
I don't need to read beyond your first sentence to know the whole of your argument is not worth my time.

All religious practices must derive their legitimacy from the a sacred religion book they believe to be divine from which practices are established.

The fact that a lot of Nigerians all over the world are known for pushing drugs does not means it has a constitutional or moral backing in our society.

Secondly, we will rather advocate for the particular individuals be punished rather than stereotype a whole country for the crime of few.

Islam also advocate love in numerous texts which you and your biased media will intentionally ignore. Let me serve you some to educate you.

"None of you [truly] believes until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself," (Saheeh Bukhari)

"....whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely." Quran 5:23

I want you to note where it says "soul" and not "Muslim" because are souls are sacred before Allah and you only where necessary and with the backing of those in authorities.

Under Islamic law, those bandits and Boko Haram that claim to advocate for Shariah would be its first to be brought to book because their conduct is totally against the Shariah.

So you mean if I slap you now, you will turn the other cheek back to me?

Well, we both know how foolish that sounds.

Islam will tell you to take revenge and ensure you don't trespass. But if you forgiveness is the best option.

"If you punish, then punish with the like of that with which you were afflicted. But if you endure patiently, verily, it is better for the patient" Q42:40


The fact that few people choose to misinterpret the Qur'an to suit their whims and desires does not represent what Islam is.

I will also want you to know that most of the crimes happening in the name of Islam have political undertones. This has been well established by lot of American officials confessing live on camera to sponsoring terrorism.

Now give me those justifications, so we can both have a look at it.

I don't want to talk about the bible or the pastors or whatever.


Those things you listed there shows you lack understanding of what Islam is. I put it to you, What is Jihad and What is Shariah?

You just keep parroting whatever you heard online.

Do you know it part of Shariah to do good to your parents, establish family ties, be good to your neighbors and never consume each other's wealth unlawfully except in a lawful manner e.g trade?

And as for Nikkah Mut'ah, Sunni Muslims (i don't know if you will understand) are against it. It was once permissible but later abrogated.

There's nothing wrong with them only that you lack understanding of what it entails and rather than sit and learn from authentic sources, you choose to be blinded by your ignorance and desire to be woke.

That 90% you quoted now was from which source please? I'm educated and I don't entertain unsubstantiated proof. Quote a source to back it up and then you establish the accuracy of your source.

If you can't do that, I repeat you're better off putting down that lie you wrapped up there as a fact.

For each one of those claims you make, come up with the evidence as we Muslims back up our practices from the Qur'an. We don't take our practices from daddy GO or missioner or one founder.


You just displayed your ignorance once more. Surah means chapter and Tawbah means repentance. How does that correlate with the sword verse?

Those verses you quoted were taken out of context.

I will give you a brief context and I believe if you're sincere, you will understand but if you choose to be blinded by your hatred, then know all you spew there are lies.

Those verses were revealed to battles ongoing between the Muslims and the unbelievers then. After so much persecution, they were allowed to retaliate as found in the verse below:

"Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged. And indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory." Q22:39


For the last part, The verse was talking about Mahr (bridal dowry) not that definition you gave to it. This is the view I hold and other billions of muslims except for rare minority who have a distorted view of the Qur'an.


I won't dignify you with a response anymore because it shows you lack knowledge of what Islam entails. All you did was some copy and paste from some website some where. I'm better off ignoring you.

stuffs2002:

Christianity is the only religion in the world that was spread with the sword

stuffs2002:
First your story about Northerners or Arabs not accepting others as Muslims is not true. Maybe one or two instances of discrimination but the vast majority of Muslims accept one another without issues. The issue of discrimination in Islam is being spread by Christians hoping to use that to cause division amongst Muslims


Secondly, Islamic mindset is totally different from Christian mindset because in Islam, you don't need any approval from any northerner or Arab or anyone else to be a Muslim because every Muslim worship his lord directly without any intermediary

stuffs2002:
You don't know your Bible

“Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.
--- Mathew 10:34

Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.
----- Mathew 5:7

Nextjs:
You haven't travel. They said travel is part of Education.

Travel to this arab countries and get first hand treatment

Nextjs:
Can you point to one reference?

Christianity was spread through peaceful preaching.

Have u seen moslems going from door to door preaching??

stuffs2002:
Roman empire
British empire
And all the empires


Christianity was spread on the back of empires and those empires were created on with swords, blood and pain

stuffs2002:
I live in Oxford London.

I have visited six countries

Nextjs:
Why do u say soo? Because the Bible didn't tell us to kill anyone.

If u are referring to events that happened when the isrealite left Egypt into canaan land where they are instructed to desposess the inhabitants.


We Christians the Bible taught us that we fight not against flesh n blood but against spiritual weakness in high places.




But why is boko haram beheading soldiers

Tingotoe:
But your God did order the children of Israel to commit horrific crimes of genocide and mass murder against the Canaanites. Now tell me how different is your God from the Islamic Allah?

Nextjs:
Download timestamp from play store and use it to snap the street of London

Nextjs:
Did jesus told u to kill anyone? Jesus christ our lord and savour is the lord of peace.

Tingotoe:
According to you isn't Jesus Christ God? Or was it a different God who ordered a genocide in the old testament?

Nextjs:
Mr man here u go again

Tingotoe:
But your God still ordered the killing of innocent children even their livestock right? Didn't he?

Nextjs:
From the passage the LORD God