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Expanse2020:
were scare to share your proof
Abi evidence no de 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Expanse2020:
K
According to bible he had a wife
Do continue about the others I mentioned too

Dtruthspeaker:
Since you already know about these people you mentioned then it means you and I have read the same source. So if you want to say that it is not True that God only started favouring them ONLY AFTER they were into polygamy, then show it 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

But, you can't because it is exactly as i said. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Dtruthspeaker:
A wife means "one wife" so case closed.

For the others i already pointed out that "All of them all got the favour of God BEFORE they went into polygamy."

Expanse2020:
answer my question first I was the one who asked you first

Expanse2020:
if he didn't abolished it so how come those that doing polygamy... Was said that one wife one husband of he didn't abolished it. How come swine, dog, pig that was forbidden was later be eatable to the christians.

Expanse2020:
You are just repeating a sentence
Alaye proof your point nii

Expanse2020:
proof your with scripture and let me proof mine with scripture too

Dtruthspeaker:
Bros, you are wrong here. Polygamy is a sin because it contains adultery.

What you fail to appreciate is that is an old sin like prostitution is to women. That is why Genesis even tells us who was the first to break God's Law of one man,one wife which now even became the tradition of the world which God destroyed. A tradition people keep unwisely boasting in saying "its our custom and tradition/I'm a traditional man".

You fail to see that it is a sin because it is the old pagan idolism that you have been accustomed to.

It is not for nought that Genesis shows us who started the tradition of polygamy and to think that he is even a seed of Cain. Now, you see why Christ lineage came through Seth, the people who called on God!i This clearly shows us that God never created nor ordained polygamy.

TenQ:
Who was speaking to David here?
What did He give to David?

2 Samuel 12:8.
"I gave your master's house to you, and your master's wives into your arms. I gave you the house of Israel and Judah. And if that were not enough, I would have given you even more."...

Dtruthspeaker:
And as i asked the Muslim guy who raised it, so do you say that therefore by this statement David was given everybody's wife wife in Israel and Judah? If it was so, how then did God charge him for taking Uriah's wife, since you say that God gave him everybody's wife?

Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the Lord, to do evil in his sight?

Count 1) thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword,

Count 2) and hast taken his wife to be thy wife,

Count 3) and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon.

TenQ:
I never said that God gave David everybody's wife but Saul's Wives.
I believe that God did NOT lie in saying that He gave Saul's Wives (plural) to David...

Dtruthspeaker:
Read it again it is not only Saul's wives he was given in that passage.

The passage expressly says that
"I gave your master's house to you, and your master's wives into your arms. i gave you the house of Israel and Judah."

So, by your understanding in the second attached leg of that passage, are you saying that even the men of Isreal and Judah too (homose) were given to David to wife or husband in addition to their wives, since God Said He even gave him their "house" also in addition to Saul's wife as you say?

Expanse2020:
Herod and heriad one example
Adam and eve according to bible too
What did they get is it favour or wrath from god

Expanse2020:
So Abraham fall to due to polygamy
Job fall too
Jacob fall too
Solomon fall too
Moses fall too right

TenQ:
I guess I should simplify it for you

For what purpose did God gave David
1. The House of Saul
2. The Kingdom of Saul (House of Israel)
3. The Wives of Saul?
etc

TenQ:
Khai!
When spiritual IQ is at sub freezing temperatures!

[

i]The meaning is that The fall of Adam made all humans to have imperfect natures that does things outside God's perfect will.[/i]

Ehen so the down fall of Adam course all your own sin... Since God didn't had the plan
How you take know God didn't have the plan
Did God said he didn't plan it that we will live on Earth before


[/i]
How many wives did God the originator of MARRIAGE give to Adam? Jesus returned us to that standard!
So Abraham
Jacob
David
Solomon
Moses they all made mistake by having more than a wife ... Especially Abraham and Moses right...
That Jesus come and return you to the nature ... Changing the law right

Mat 19:4-5:
"And he answered and said to them, Have you not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall join to his wife: and they two shall be one flesh?"

This is why ALL humans with no exception are sinners by nature: just as like pigs by nature are prone to filth humans are prone to sin!
SMH!!

Dtruthspeaker:
By asking me this question, do you now see and agree that your opinion here is wrong? For clearly, you are saying that God David Saul's wives, the men of Isreal and Judah too (homose things) in addition to their wives which you now find it difficult to say.

If you agree that you are wrong, then i can proceed to answer the questions you asked, so that we are both sure of what is right. And right you think you are right and i am just want to make certain that you are right. But if you agree you are wrong, then we can both examine my views to see if me too I'm wrong or right

Expanse2020:
what if the verse were addressing people following Sodom and Gomorrah and you misquote it ..
The foundation is Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve




[i]ehen so na everybody automatically a sinner even the small a day, month baby that died too he don get sin and will end in hell be that[I/]

The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.”* – Ezekiel
This what the God of bible said
Why would Jesus responsible for my sin
Why would I be responsible for Adam sin
🥱

TenQ:
I other words, your questions was wrongly perceived.

In context each of these were given to David for different purposes.

However,
You seem only to respond to snippets of my posts. You avoid issues that conflict with your views. This isn't good!

Any solid Theology must stand up to scrutiny!

Dtruthspeaker:
Scrutiny dictates that "By doubting we are led to question, by questioning we arrive at the truth". Peter Abelard

You already appreciate that i do not believe your view is right and therefore I have asked you questions on your view in which you say God gave David Saul's wives. And now i have pointed out that by your interpretation, in the second leg of that passage God gave David, the the men of Isreal and Judah too (homose things) and their wives for him to husband/wife them all.

And now that you see the second leg's interpretation contradicts you view on the first keg, you now seek to break your interpretation of that passage and depart from it, by moving post to plead different purposes.

This clearly proves that you are bending the passage according to your views. For the passage is already self explanatory and it's purposes are clear, which according to your interpretation, God gave David Saul's wives. the men of Isreal and Judah too (homose things) and their wives too.

So, after you have first given an interpretation to the passage, now the second leg of that passage points out that your interpretation of the first passage is wrong, you have now taken it upon yourself to divide and appropriate interpretations to them. A clear case of arbitrary selective judgement This is fraudulent and Wrong!

You can't interpret Akara as from beans and then say that moi moi is not from beans.

So, do you now see that you are very wrong and that the scripture does not support your view?

TenQ:
So, tell me!
Why did Allah chase Adam and his unborn descendants out of paradise when only Adam and his wife ate from the tree!


Adams descendants are being punished for his sins!?

MaxInDHouse:
If your Allah once allowed drinking alcoholic beverages but today forbids it then your question makes no practical sense. So answer the question if you are sincere with yourself!🤔




Did Jesus abolish any law?

Can you quote a law where God said a man should marry more than one wife?🤔

MaxInDHouse:
So you know the question makes no practical sense!🤔


Jesus was a Jew so he kept all those laws but now that

his disciples must go and make disciples of people from all the nations such laws no longer applies {Act 15:28-29} because it was meant only for the nation of Israel until the arrival of the Christ

! Deuteronomy 18:18-19

Expanse2020:
If God didn't allow it
Why would
Abraham
Moses
Jacob
Solomon..
The sons of god have more than a wife
While would God give law on wives and thier children inheritance if it not allowed 🤔

Expanse2020:
So the laws are for the Jew and Jesus practices Judaism right ...
He kept all the law, he followed all the law
But his followers throwed the law away ...
Keep the one meaningful (favour the west) to them
Through the God law away because not favour them right
That why Judeo-Christian was formed and later transformed to the Christianity. ..
Where you abandon God words and inscribe the one favour you

Expanse2020:
No
Father sin / father guilt are not proclaimed on son .
Everybody account for his sins. Ok
and that what bible also said that why I showed you the verse earlier..
The creation of Adam and his descendants (including us was said to have live here on earth initially that is our destiny not the guilty or punishment of Adam ... Adam was just a channel for us to be here) don't mixed it together..
Adam Sin on his own with her wife and also asked for forgiveness and he pardoned them also ..

MaxInDHouse:
The first man to have two wives in the Bible is Lamech {Genesis 4:19} and he set a bad example {Genesis 4:26} in many cases God allows some things for humans to learn on their own but when Jesus came he reminded his listeners that God has set the standard regarding marriage by giving Adam who is the world's richest man only one wife. Matthew 19:4
So that is the standard if we wants to live in Paradise!

Expanse2020:
,,🤣🤣🤣🤣🤔🤔🤔
Marry two wives is bad example
I don't needs to argue you told me already is out of z God plan...
What is the point 🤣🤣🤣