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Joe Jackson is the worst father anybody can wish for, the movie portrait him like he was a good person; he wasn't
All his children hated him

dauntless15:
What i noticed about his father is different though, yes he was a hardworking, ambitious, doting father, but he's the central figure in Michael's demise, most of the insecurities Micheal has stems from him, first he made him alter his nose/appearance so many times by bullying the way he looks (big nose as he calls him often) this is why Micheal is obsessed with having a pointed nose, he never lets him be a child or have a childhood, hence his obsession with children and playtime this is why he built Neverland ranch and got so close to children leading to his child molestation accusations, he forces Michael to do things and made sure he doesn't make decisions on his own as an adult, which is why he lost his strong will and ability to say no to people, he did the Pepsi commercial that burnt his hair and made him a junkie because he couldn't say no to joseph his father, and without that burn he wouldn't be addicted to pain meds and he'd still be alive, he had no friends growing up so he surrounded himself with animals and toys, and this followed him to adulthood making him an extremely shy and misunderstood person who often craves connection, most of the things that went wrong in his life is because of his controlling and abusive father, the only thing wrong with the movie is the fact that they didn't exploit his love life, i grew up thinking he's attracted to men, this was because of several rumors, I didn't know he had kids and liked girls, alot of people thought so too, the movie should've cleared that, and the story of how he passed.

Well, part two is 40% complete. You don't expect a single movie to do justice to the biography of the most famous person who ever lived. Some called him the second most famous person after Jesus Christ.
That movie within its 5 weeks of thetrical release had become just the highest grossing music biopic of all time on the planet and it's about to become the best selling biographical film ever, musical or otherwise. Part 2 will shed more light about other aspects of his life including the sexual allegations.
Joe Jackson turned his sons into money making machines. I didn't see him as a monster until few days after Michael died and Joe went out on air and told the press that he was about to release albums from few artists he recently signed under his new label and he equally told the press that his dead son's old records were about to sell very well worldwide after his death. Can you imagine anyone on earth saying that crap few days after the death of his son? I was shocked, really shocked. Michael's former bodyguard said two days ago that there was a time Joe Jackson came to visit but Michael asked the bodyguard to demand that his dad present an appointment before he could visit. He also said there was a time his siblings came to visit probably to get him to rehab but Michael refused to see the female siblings including Janet Jackson but only opened his door to the Male siblings.
All in all, we don't know if any human could have handled such a fame, such an abuse from a father and such unnecessary controversy (Someone suffering from vitiligo but his people hated him because they thought he bleached his skin) such a talent than Michael.
It is easy to criticize when you are an anonymous Olusola in the village of Ogbomoso but can you compare that with a man who was the second most popular thing on the planet after Coca Cola?

amaridigital:
Well, part two is 40% complete. You don't expect a single movie to do justice to the biography of the most famous person who ever lived. Some called him the second most famous person after Jesus Christ.
That movie within its 5 weeks of thetrical release had become just the highest grossing music biopic of all time on the planet and it's about to become the best selling biographical film ever, musical or otherwise. Part 2 will shed more light about other aspects of his life including the sexual allegations.
Joe Jackson turned his sons into money making machines. I didn't see him as a monster until few days after Michael died and Joe went out on air and told the press that he was about to release albums from few artists he recently signed under his new label and he equally told the press that his dead son's old records were about to sell very well worldwide after his death. Can you imagine anyone on earth saying that crap few days after the death of his son? I was shocked, really shocked. Michael's former bodyguard said two days ago that there was a time Joe Jackson came to visit but Michael asked the bodyguard to demand that his dad present an appointment before he could visit. He also said there was a time his siblings came to visit probably to get him to rehab but Michael refused to see the female siblings including Janet Jackson but only opened his door to the Male siblings.
All in all, we don't know if any human could have handled such a fame, such an abuse from a father and such unnecessary controversy (Someone suffering from vitiligo but his people hated him because they thought he bleached his skin) such a talent than Michael.
It is easy to criticize when you are an anonymous Olusola in the village of Ogbomoso but can you compare that with a man who was the second most popular thing on the planet after Coca Cola?

Wtf are you talking about? Why you write all this thing to me instead of the op, and i don't even know what you're rambling about because my replies doesn't correlate with this textbook of yours.

flexyrule:
Been trying to download this... But I haven't had the time.

Modified

Bia OP, was the movie about Michael Jackson or his father?

You spent the whole month writing about the father, when the movie was meant to be centred around the son - Michael.

I should go read reviews on Rotten Tomatoes or at YTS forum.

please ignore him and watch the movie..it was a nice and beautiful movie and you would actually learn alot

Wetin u dey talk self

Codes151:
sir. If you don’t watch after 1month. Make we hear word. You get mind type all this. Smh

dauntless15:
What i noticed about his father is different though, yes he was a hardworking, ambitious, doting father, but he's the central figure in Michael's demise, most of the insecurities Micheal has stems from him, first he made him alter his nose/appearance so many times by bullying the way he looks (big nose as he calls him often) this is why Micheal is obsessed with having a pointed nose, he never lets him be a child or have a childhood, hence his obsession with children and playtime this is why he built Neverland ranch and got so close to children leading to his child molestation accusations, he forces Michael to do things and made sure he doesn't make decisions on his own as an adult, which is why he lost his strong will and ability to say no to people, he did the Pepsi commercial that burnt his hair and made him a junkie because he couldn't say no to joseph his father, and without that burn he wouldn't be addicted to pain meds and he'd still be alive, he had no friends growing up so he surrounded himself with animals and toys, and this followed him to adulthood making him an extremely shy and misunderstood person who often craves connection, most of the things that went wrong in his life is because of his controlling and abusive father, the only thing wrong with the movie is the fact that they didn't exploit his love life, i grew up thinking he's attracted to men, this was because of several rumors, I didn't know he had kids and liked girls, alot of people thought so too, the movie should've cleared that, and the story of how he passed.

God bless you

I absolutely agree with you. Father's tough love gets the job done in this life. Imagine if the father was absent and the kids were left to their mother's soft love, they'll not have become stars.

I refuse to demonize Joe Jackson, to me he was the hero.

Sonofgod1990:
Please how many times can person donate blood per year

As many times as possible until e remain 1 litre for your body.

I believe Joe Jackson loved his children the only way he was taught to love and that is through tough love, apart from that he also saw them as his ticket out of the projects. I believe the motivation was more on financial success for him than the tough love aspect because you can be strict with your children without being abusive at the same time and your children would grow up to love you for it.

Personally I love my parents more now since I’m now a grown up with children who understands better now why they were strict raising us. I look at my children and want them to also become successful in life so I keep a bit of that strictness on while also showing them love.

Host78:
It's hard to compress a lifetime into a few hours.

And this is what the movie hoped to achieve: capture the whole life journey of the legend into a few hours.

Hence it was fast paced. A few missing pieces that leaves you desiring to know more about Michael Jackson.

You do will not see his development properly. The character development was mostly empty.

One aspect I would have loved to see is his relationship. As a star Micheal probably have more female admirers than anyone else.

How did he deal with those fans? We saw very little except for a girl, who was not actually his girlfriend.

Also you'll almost learn nothing new from the movie about Michael Jackson. Which begs the question, why create a biopic at all?

But something that really stood out to me most is the portrayal of Micheal Jackson's father.

He played a very central role in the movie and no doubt in Micheal Jackson's life and career.

And so I really do not understand why they tried to paint him as this cold and almost devilish figure.

At some point, his father figure role was almost designed to make you hate him and only love the mother.

But I don't think he is the villain of this story but instead a hero.

He was a mere factory worker and wanted his children to end up better than him.

"if you do not work hard, there's every guarantee that you'll end up right here in this small town as a factory worker. Now would you want that?"

He pushed the kids to be good at something. Not many fathers can see their kids and see the future ahead.

More so, actually push them to fly when the odds are stacked against them.

How a steel factory worker trained 5 boys to become the greatest music bands ever showed someone who deeply cared about his children more than a strict and wicked father.

Of course he could have pampered them like the mother and let them go to school, then join one of the boys in the hood and become nothing.

And it's so sad that towards the end of the movie, they try to portray him as the villain when everyone suddenly turned on him simply because they are now rich.

I mean, he built everything from the ground up. Mr Jackson not only gave the world micheal Jackson, he did the job of moulding him, shaping him up and developing his talent.

And worst still, every night when other fathers are too tired from work, he gathers the boys to practice.

That's not hate. That's tough love.

Another thing I love is the young man who played micheal Jackson. While you can clearly see the mimics in his moves, I think he did very well.

Overall, I think it's a good movie, worth watching but you'll learn nothing new from it.

And that's another angle, it tells you nothing new about the legend.

As a biopic we expect to see the legend in a different light, see aspects of his journey probably gathered from family members and close associates.

But the movie is more or less based on publicly available info. It's like watching what you already know.

There's absolutely nothing to learn new from the movie if you already read a few articles about the singer before.

Much time was spent rather on the making of his music videos such as thriller, beat it and wanna be Startin something.

In this regard, the movie actually lack substance.

There are so many direction this could have gone. I wonder why the dynamic between his father becomes the central role of the movie.

I'm not buying it that his father is bad or terrible.

Any human will be happy to have such a father who not only see them as other kids but as stars.

But not only see them as stars. That's the easier part and every father and mother think their kids are special.

But how many actually take the extra step to put that belief into work? How many fathers today will buy music instruments from their "factory" labor salary, come back from work and make their kids practice even when tired and exhausted?

How many will take their kids around town to book them for gigs, stay up while they play and look for ways to improve them?

Yes, he did beat them. But beating is not killing them. Little discipline goes a long way.

And I think this is a central role to almost any great person in history.

Serena Williams father was also strict with his children in their biopic. And like Micheal Jackson's father, he took his girls to practice regularly even when they don't want to.

He book their games as well finding as many opportunities for them as he could so they can shine.

Sorry Hollywood, but I'm not buying the idea that Jackson was a terrible father to his kids.

I think you did not do much research before the write up.

Why did Janet pull out? Because the mr Jackson’s real abuse was not captured and some life altering situation with his father and how it affected was cut out. Some other family members felt that way.


Also, the decision to just focus on celebrating his music to one stage with the later challenges in his life was due to legal constraints.

It is a very feel good move that focus on his view of life and his personality

Sonofgod1990:
Please how many times can person donate blood per year

Three times!

chidi2003:
Three times!

I'm planning to go and donate. Sapa wan finish me aswear
I hear say na 7k per pant of blood

I don't think I need to research a movie before reviewing it. It's watch and review what you saw.

Kayautojun:
I think you did not do much research before the write up.

Why did Janet pull out? Because the mr Jackson’s real abuse was not captured and some life altering situation with his father and how it affected was cut out. Some other family members felt that way.


Also, the decision to just focus on celebrating his music to one stage with the later challenges in his life was due to legal constraints.

It is a very feel good move that focus on his view of life and his personality

I fully understand your sentiments and I must say I share the same,.. not to talk down the movie but sorry I don't see anything special,.. just a famzing stuff ,... I probably know about MJ more than what I'll see in that movie.

Why would you want to watch a film that glorifies a pedophile?

He abused likely hundreds of boys for decades.

He actually stated in an interview that he admired the fact that in India, parents allowed their 10 year old daughter to marry an adult.

And his family members are/were aware of it, and did nothing to stop it.

It's so incredibly sick and dumb that some people will excuse all manner of depravity in a person because of wealth, fame, or because they like some shitty song. What kind of mental illness is that?

Originalsly:
I definitely wouldn't enjoy it... that I know! It's like if there's a Mike Tyson movie ... I'm not going to watch it .

Saw an interview with Janet Jackson .... she was pissed at her siblings for "selling out". She claimed they upturned everything Michael worked and sacrificed to make and protect. The Beatles catalog he owned and rumoured the cause of his "murder"... has been sold along with other "rights" he owned... for $60 million? Then the movie had not put certain things in perspective. It has made $800 million last time I heard. They are smiling all the way to the bank.... full control of Michael Jackson's brand.

You are right though, MJ is the family cash cow. MJ was the famous one and the richest among the brothers hence why his family depended on him for everything.

And also I don't think the music biopic is wrong, just like the Queens Bohemian Rapsody wasn't wrong too. the biopic was made so that we the fans of MJ can celebrate MJ.

Lastly the biopic has grossed $930 million for now, $1 billion is close already.

Image123:
Are you his dad?

He doesn't like that name, stop calling him that. respect his decision.

I thought I'll see him shag Debbie Rowe.

Authoreety:
Part 2 and 3 suppose dey na

The part 2 is already in works.

We movie was made for we his fans to enjoy nobody send una nonsense low shallow review.

To tell you that he will always be the innocent king of pop the movie is heading for $1b despite the war affecting the middle east where he has a huge fan base and the rush digital release.

Like he would always say "Good art never dies."

Pastoshizzy:
I thought I'll see him shag Debbie Rowe.

Debbi was his ex wife and mother if his first two children.

dauntless15:
What i noticed about his father is different though, yes he was a hardworking, ambitious, doting father, but he's the central figure in Michael's demise, most of the insecurities Micheal has stems from him, first he made him alter his nose/appearance so many times by bullying the way he looks (big nose as he calls him often) this is why Micheal is obsessed with having a pointed nose, he never lets him be a child or have a childhood, hence his obsession with children and playtime this is why he built Neverland ranch and got so close to children leading to his child molestation accusations, he forces Michael to do things and made sure he doesn't make decisions on his own as an adult, which is why he lost his strong will and ability to say no to people, he did the Pepsi commercial that burnt his hair and made him a junkie because he couldn't say no to joseph his father, and without that burn he wouldn't be addicted to pain meds and he'd still be alive, he had no friends growing up so he surrounded himself with animals and toys, and this followed him to adulthood making him an extremely shy and misunderstood person who often craves connection, most of the things that went wrong in his life is because of his controlling and abusive father, the only thing wrong with the movie is the fact that they didn't exploit his love life, i grew up thinking he's attracted to men, this was because of several rumors, I didn't know he had kids and liked girls, alot of people thought so too, the movie should've cleared that, and the story of how he passed.

As for his father I am in-between. He was abusive yes but raising almost 10 kids to be successful as a black father then wasn't easy, we all know Africa parents are tough.

He had a fallout with his father but Joe was there for him all though his court cases and false accusations. The last case where they thought MJ would be convicted Joe was the only bold person in court room and guarded MJ from reporters while leaving the court premises after his victory.

Rumors also has it that MJ requested to involved Joe in his last concert when he felt they were closing on him few days before they succeeded in eliminating him.

I personally feel that if Joe was there they wouldn't have succeed in carrying out MJ murder.

I am cutting his father some slacks.

iamL:
As for his father I am in-between. He was abusive yes but raising almost 10 kids to be successful as a black father then wasn't easy, we all know Africa parents are tough.

He had a fallout with his father but Joe was there for him all though his court cases and false accusations. The last case where they thought MJ would be convicted Joe was the only bold person in court room and guarded MJ from reporters while leaving the court premises after his victory.

Rumors also has it that MJ requested to involved Joe in his last concert when he felt they were closing on him few days before they succeeded in eliminating him.

I personally feel that if Joe was there they wouldn't have succeed in carrying out MJ murder.

I am cutting his father some slacks.

Who murdered him? Someone overdosed on propofol you call it murder with a straight face? Negligence and carelessness doesn't equate deliberate murder, joe should have realized he's pushing mj to catastrophe, he just kept pushing anyway, he wouldn't have all these problems if it weren't for joe in the first place so being present in court cases or no, he's merely compensating for his abuse.

iamL:
Debbi was his ex wife and mother if his first two children.

By mentioning her surname you should assume I know. But apart from artificially inseminated babies, DID THEY SHAG (that's the question)

iamL:
Debbi was his ex wife and mother if his first two children.

By mentioning her surname you should assume I know. But apart from artificially inseminated babies, DID THEY SHAG? (that's the question)

dauntless15:
Who murdered him? Someone overdosed on propofol you call it murder with a straight face? Negligence and carelessness doesn't equate deliberate murder, joe should have realized he's pushing mj to catastrophe, he just kept pushing anyway, he wouldn't have all these problems if it weren't for joe in the first place so being present in court cases or no, he's merely compensating for his abuse.

If you feel so. I feel different that's all.

dauntless15:
Wtf are you talking about? Why you write all this thing to me instead of the op, and i don't even know what you're rambling about because my replies doesn't correlate with this textbook of yours.

His response confused me too

Pastoshizzy:
By mentioning her surname you should assume I know. But apart from artificially inseminated babies, DID THEY SHAG (that's the question)

Why do you want to know?

Miggs:
Folks have got to stop trying so hard to white-wash Michael Jackson's real legacy.His music isn't even that good.

Michael Jackson was a kiddie fiddler nothing more,nothing less.

The End.

Is that all?

Now go jump off a cliff!

SamuraiXXX:
Why do you want to know?

C'mon, we're talking Wacko Jacko here. Why shouldn't I?