₦airaland Forum

MusaChukwudi:
Shebi you are young and naive. I hope you don't find out the hard way that Nigeria is a tribal nation where everybody seeks the interest of their own first and foremost. Obi is not coming to do anything for you, or the masses. That is just a smokescreen. Igbo just want an igbo president and that is all - don't be fooled. Do they deserve the presidency? Yes, because they are Nigerians but don't give them your vote cheaply without getting something in return. I hope you hear!!!

Tinubu has bleeped up, I cant trust obi considering my conversations with the average igbo man, so i go atiku

DeltaBachelor:
The idiot wants to start a tribal war abi ?

He only voices out what is in the minds of all their tribes men

Kalulu44:
Honestly eh! I don tire for this our tribal division.
We have Igbos and Yorubas who are very tribalistic, but at the same time we still have majority who are not.
When did everything go wrong? Back in the 90s and early 2000s it wasn't like this. Or did social media caused it too.
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I'm an Igbo man born and brought up in Lagos. Anytime I see stuffs like this, it really breaks my heart. I have Igbos and majority Yorubas as friends, so should I bcus of what I read on social media then start hating on my Yoruba friends. I'm honestly wishing this hatred between most of us will stop sooner than later. It's well o

As a northerner and a Muslim, I can tell you that no tribe comes close to Igbos when it comes to tribalism. Even the last presidential election proved it 100%

No tribe have shown me deep and consistent hatred just because I am Muslim and a Northerner like the Igbos

JoeEeL:
I wish too. But there is no time it wont keep happening. Both tribes are strong tribes, have a similar attitude to wealth and societal values, vibrant and spread. If one beats the other in one field, the other will beat the other in another field.

Yorubas keep beating Igbos in politics and even though Igbos may whine that they dont care about presidency, their behaviour suggests otherwise. And since Igbos dont get there and Yoruba do, that tension will always reignite.

Its either the whole Nigeria agrees for Igbo man to enter there or we just kukuma find way to share d country. Cos Igbos will throw even more tantrums if Tinubu is elected next year 😃

* We will not give Igbo Biafra neither will we allow them get to the presidency
* There is absolutely nothing anyone can do about the above apart from online noise

stuffs2002:
As a northerner and a Muslim, I can tell you that no tribe comes close to Igbos when it comes to tribalism. Even the last presidential election proved it 100%

No tribe have shown me deep and consistent hatred just because I am Muslim and a Northerner like the Igbos

Your opinion though

Kalulu44:
Your opinion though

This is the experience of every northerner.

Another trait of your people is inability to accept the truth. Even my secondary school teachers that hated us for absolutely no reason were Igbos. Just having a Muslim name is enough to trigger their deep hatred.


Go back and look at the presidential election results for the entire south east and compare the percentage of Atiku and Tinubu to what Obi got

stuffs2002:
This is the experience of every northerner.

Another trait of your people is inability to accept the truth. Even my secondary school teachers that hated us for absolutely no reason were Igbos. Just having a Muslim name is enough to trigger their deep hatred.

I repeat again your opinion. I live in Lagos and I know the hatred Yorubas have for Igbos, but I won't then say Yorubas are the ones that hate Igbos the most cus I know Igbos that hate Yorubas too.
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With what you said, do northerners love Igbos? I will leave that to you

stuffs2002:
* We will not give Igbo Biafra neither will we allow them get to the presidency
* There is absolutely nothing anyone can do about the above apart from online noise

Nigeria is a multi ethnic nation and no one group can determine who will be President alone and no group in Nigeria can give another group independence too. If they want it they will fight for it and get it. Then if Nigeria remains one, no one can prevent an Igbo from becoming President because it is not the decision of any one group. If an Igbo man had contested in 2023 against only a Northerner or Northerners then people would have been sentimental and voted in the Igbo man since a Northerner just finished two terms

Kalulu44:
I repeat again your opinion. I live in Lagos and I know the hatred Yorubas have for Igbos, but I won't then say Yorubas are the ones that hate Igbos the most cus I know Igbos that hate Yorubas too.
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With what you said, do northerners love Igbos? I will leave that to you

You expect Northerners to love those who hate us.

I just gave you my secondary school experience with Igbo teachers and the hell we went through in their hands. Mind you this happened in Kanduna.


I get along with Yorubas and other tribes easily except your tribe and this is the story of northern people.

* Did Peter Obi not demolished the Onitsha central mosque in Anambra?
* Did Peter Obi not deport Northerners from Anambra?
* Did Peter Obi not create a register to register Northerners effectively restricting their movements within Anambra?
* Did Peter Obi not destroy the Hausa market and then rebuilt it only to give the stores to his Igbo brothers?
* Did Peter Obi not used instruments of government to frustrate and destroyed a lot of Hausa businesss all over Anambra?


I have lived and worked outside northern Nigeria and I can tell you that Enugu remains the state I felt so much insecure that I had to resign and leave the state.

stuffs2002:
You expect Northerners to love those who hate us.

I just gave you my secondary school experience with Igbo teachers and the hell we went through in their hands. Mind you this happened in Kanduna.


I get along with Yorubas and other tribes easily except your tribe and this is the story of northern people.

* Did Peter Obi not demolished the Onitsha central mosque in Anambra?
* Did Peter Obi not deport Northerners from Anambra?
* Did Peter Obi not create a register to register Northerners effectively restricting their movements within Anambra?
* Did Peter Obi not destroy the Hausa market and then rebuilt it only to give the stores to his Igbo brothers?
* Did Peter Obi not used instruments of government to frustrate and destroyed a lot of Hausa businesss all over Anambra?


I have lived and worked outside northern Nigeria and I can tell you that Enugu remains the state I felt so much insecure that I had to resign and leave the state.

Why will I like the people that hates me?
You see this statement, it makes you a hypocrite. You hate them just as they hate you, but you're claiming the victim here.
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See let me tell you a little about myself.
There's nothing on this Earth that will make me hate anybody or tribes.
For example, here in Lagos. Many people have turn the meaning of "Aboki" which naturally means my friend to another thing.
And the northerners too has noticed they make jest of them with that word aboki.
And they have started rejecting been called that by outsiders except their own people.
Ever since I noticed it too, there's no northerners be it shoemaker, kiosk sellers e.t.c that I ever call "aboki" again.
Once I want to buy something or interact with them, I call them "my friend" to avoid wahala and respect to them.
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But to you now as you just admitted, you still hate Igbos. Which doesn't make you different from most of them that hates you.

Kalulu44:
Why will I like the people that hates me?
You see this statement, it makes you a hypocrite. You hate them just as they hate you, but you're claiming the victim here.
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See let me tell you a little about myself.
There's nothing on this Earth that will make me hate anybody or tribes.
For example, here in Lagos. Many people have turn the meaning of "Aboki" which naturally means my friend to another thing.
And the northerners too has noticed they make jest of them with that word aboki.
And they have started rejecting been called that by outsiders except their own people.
Ever since I noticed it too, there's no northerners be it shoemaker, kiosk sellers e.t.c that I ever call "aboki" again.
Once I want to buy something or interact with them, I call them "my friend" to avoid wahala and respect to them.
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But to you now as you just admitted, you still hate Igbos. Which doesn't make you different from most of them that hates you.

Stop being dishonest. I never said Northerners hated your people. You are only fraudulently trying to twist my statements and that is not new to your people.

It is 100% human nature not to love someone who has deep hatred for you. That we avoid your wahala does not mean you are hated.

lawani:
Nigeria is a multi ethnic nation and no one group can determine who will be President alone and no group in Nigeria can give another group independence too. If they want it they will fight for it and get it. Then if Nigeria remains one, no one can prevent an Igbo from becoming President because it is not the decision of any one group. If an Igbo man had contested in 2023 against only a Northerner or Northerners then people would have been sentimental and voted in the Igbo man since a Northerner just finished two terms

* Did I say Nigeria was not a multiethnic country?
* We can and will determine who will be president and we have excluded Igbos from those who can be president of Nigeria.
* They have always wanted to lead Nigeria since the days of Abubakar Tafawa-Balewa and it will always elude them. Even Aguyi-Ironsi was a short lived mistake that was quickly corrected. They can fight all they want but it will not change anything.
* Nigeria will remain one and no one can change that but we will still not let them near the presidency of Nigeria

stuffs2002:
Stop being dishonest. I never said Northerners hated your people. You are only fraudulently trying to twist my statements and that is not new to your people.

It is 100% human nature not to love someone who has deep hatred for you. That we avoid your wahala does not mean you are hated.

Hahahaha, be deceiving yourself you hear.
With all the hate speeches flying around on social media by Yorubas and Igbos, has it made me as an Igbo man join the bandwagon to hate Yorubas who I have as friends more than my own tribe, No.
But you're hating on Igbo according to you just bcus you have felt hatred among some of them.
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Now let me ask you this. When doing business, trading, working, money transaction. Do you ask the other person if they're Igbo or Yoruba or do you say bcus you're an Igbo person I won't do business with you, if not. Then you are an hypocrite of the highest order

stuffs2002:
* Did I say Nigeria was not a multiethnic country?
* We can and will determine who will be president and we have excluded Igbos from those who can be president of Nigeria.
* They have always wanted to lead Nigeria since the days of Abubakar Tafawa-Balewa and it will always elude them. Even Aguyi-Ironsi was a short lived mistake that was quickly corrected. They can fight all they want but it will not change anything.
* Nigeria will remain one and no one can change that but we will still not let them near the presidency of Nigeria

This just shows you're the real hateful person here claiming victim all the while we were interacting.
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Can you just hear yourself talk?

stuffs2002:
* Did I say Nigeria was not a multiethnic country?
* We can and will determine who will be president and we have excluded Igbos from those who can be president of Nigeria.
* They have always wanted to lead Nigeria since the days of Abubakar Tafawa-Balewa and it will always elude them. Even Aguyi-Ironsi was a short lived mistake that was quickly corrected. They can fight all they want but it will not change anything.
* Nigeria will remain one and no one can change that but we will still not let them near the presidency of Nigeria

You don't get it. No single bloc has the means to say anybody can not be President and if today only an Igbo man contests against a Northerner, the Igbo man will likely win.

Then if any group wants to leave Nigeria they can seek help and do so as South Sudan left Sudan. Bigger and more significant countries than Nigeria have broken up

lawani:
You don't get it. No single bloc has the means to say anybody can not be President and if today only an Igbo man contests against a Northerner, the Igbo man will likely win.

Then if any group wants to leave Nigeria they can seek help and do so as South Sudan left Sudan. Bigger and more significant countries than Nigeria have broken up

You don't study political history that is why you don't know that a region of Nigeria have never lost before and a region in Nigeria is always being crushed by the majority because they always go against the traffic.


Try and educate yourself on Nigerian politics

stuffs2002:
* We will not give Igbo Biafra neither will we allow them get to the presidency
* There is absolutely nothing anyone can do about the above apart from online noise

You don't talk like this if you're truly running a country. It's an insult, something like when some of them foolishly say Lagos is no man's land. It's better to say if they continue so so and so, they wont ever be president. That's better as you point to the cause and the result.

It is painful to let someone know that something for them is unachievable solely because of where they come from. Fulanis, despite the atrocities they've committed, you can't even tell them they can never be president.

Then what does that make you?

Can a tribe be like these people and not invoke anger on their heads as been seen all over?
Most times it is good to be cultured.
Funnily enough,it is the Yorubas that have always stood for them,stuck out their necks for them,but what do they get in return....hate,envy,pull them down etc.
Since time they have always been working against Yoruba interests and only God knows why.
It is very easy for Yorubas...through their governor....to revoke the few lands that they have in Lagos and there is nothing they can do about it.
In Nigeria,you work against Yorubas and also work against Yorubas in Lagos when you know that they own the houses,shops,lands etc that you are utilizing in the state.
Our brothers should better change their ways before it is too late.
No other tribe can take what our brothers have been "dishing" out to Yorubas.
Please,let us eschew all these negativities and live amicably together for as long as we are still together.

Kalulu44:
This just shows you're the real hateful person here claiming victim all the while we were interacting.
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Can you just hear yourself talk?

Your lame and weak attempt to twist my words into what I didn't say is laughable.

I never claimed to love Igbos. That I don't love them doesn't mean I must hate them. What I said was that I avoid them which is in line with my statements that we will not let them near power.

Avoiding a man doesn't mean you hate that man. You just don't want to have anything to do with him

Maybe you should work on your poor diction so that you will understand simple English

JoeEeL:
You don't talk like this if you're truly running a country. It's an insult, something like when some of them foolishly say Lagos is no man's land. It's better to say if they continue so so and so, they wont ever be president. That's better as you point to the cause and the result.

It is painful to let someone know that something for them is unachievable solely because of where they come from. Fulanis, despite the atrocities they've committed, you can't even tell them they can never be president.

Then what does that make you?

They can't hold power. The can't manage power and it was evidenced in the January 1966 coup

Kalulu44:
Hahahaha, be deceiving yourself you hear.
With all the hate speeches flying around on social media by Yorubas and Igbos, has it made me as an Igbo man join the bandwagon to hate Yorubas who I have as friends more than my own tribe, No.
But you're hating on Igbo according to you just bcus you have felt hatred among some of them.
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Now let me ask you this. When doing business, trading, working, money transaction. Do you ask the other person if they're Igbo or Yoruba or do you say bcus you're an Igbo person I won't do business with you, if not. Then you are an hypocrite of the highest order

Being dishonest is one of the biggest reason I avoid Igbos and you keep proving to me why I should keep on avoiding them with seriousness because you keep trying to twist what I didn't say even when you kept on failing to achieve your aim.

I generally avoid using the word hate because it doesn't belong in my everyday vocabulary but you are very comfortable with it because it is your stock in trade. That i avoid a man doesn't mean I hate that man, it only means I want to avoid his wahala but that is a very difficult thing for you to comprehend.

Yes, I 100% avoid Igbos when in the market or transacting business because of my past experience with them and this is a general norm all over the country. You can insult me all you want but it will not change the truth.

Go and ask Bianca Ojukwu to show you the list of the 136 Nigerian prisoners that Tinubu asked to be released from Ethiopian and you will find your answer why people avoid your tribe

stuffs2002:
Being dishonest is one of the biggest reason I avoid Igbos and you keep proving to me why I should keep on avoiding them with seriousness because you keep trying to twist what I didn't say even when you kept on failing to achieve your aim.

I generally avoid using the word hate because it doesn't belong in my everyday vocabulary but you are very comfortable with it because it is your stock in trade. That i avoid a man doesn't mean I hate that man, it only means I want to avoid his wahala but that is a very difficult thing for you to comprehend.

Yes, I 100% avoid Igbos when in the market or transacting business because of my past experience with them and this is a general norm all over the country. You can insult me all you want but it will not change the truth.

Go and ask Bianca Ojukwu to show you the list of the 136 Nigerian prisoners that Tinubu asked to be released from Ethiopian and you will find your answer why people avoid your tribe

Don't speak for others, speak for yourself. You and few people avoid them but some majority still interact and do business with them.
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Without mincing words, I know of countless Yorubas in Lagos here that praises Igbos for uplifting them both in business and financial standing.
Honestly, you're being economical with the truth. You don't want to admit hate but you're avoiding them and even as far as not doing business with them. My friend just admit it, that's pure hate.

stuffs2002:
Your lame and weak attempt to twist my words into what I didn't say is laughable.

I never claimed to love Igbos. That I don't love them doesn't mean I must hate them. What I said was that I avoid them which is in line with my statements that we will not let them near power.

Avoiding a man doesn't mean you hate that man. You just don't want to have anything to do with him

Maybe you should work on your poor diction so that you will understand simple English

My friend I am the one that will teach you English you hear. You're trying to stand on the fence between love and hate which is not possible.
You either love/like or hate, there's nothing like avoiding or in-between.
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You're not interacting with a kid.
Your statement again is: you will never let them near power. That's pure hatred. Don't sugarcoat it

Ofemannnu:
Can a tribe be like these people and not invoke anger on their heads as been seen all over?
Most times it is good to be cultured.
Funnily enough,it is the Yorubas that have always stood for them,stuck out their necks for them,but what do they get in return....hate,envy,pull them down etc.
Since time they are always been working against Yoruba interests and only God knows why.
It is very easy for Yorubas...through their governor....to invoke the few lands that they have in Lagos and there is nothing they can do about it.
In Nigeria,you work against Yorubas and also work against Yorubas in Lagos when you know that they own the houses,shops,lands etc that you are utilizing in the state.
Our brothers should better change their ways before it is too late.
No other tribe can take what our brothers have been "dishing" out to Yorubas.
Please,let us eschew all these negativities and live amicably together for as long as we are still together.

Things will be better.

stuffs2002:
They can't hold power. The can't manage power and it was evidenced in the January 1966 coup

OK they can't hold power. Fulani nko? Fulani that is kpaing everybody everywhere nko? Why are they in power?
Then also ensure they too are prevented from power, then I will know your opinion is balanced.

JoeEeL:
OK they can't hold power. Fulani nko? Fulani that is kpaing everybody everywhere nko? Why are they in power?
Then also ensure they too are prevented from power, then I will know your opinion is balanced.

Abeg goan sit down

Na Una people bring those violent crimes to Nigeria because, kidnapping and beheadings started with Otokoto in Owerri in Imo state in the 1990s before it was spread to other regions.

lawani:
In 1960 the west had a revenue of 55 million pounds the East 12 million pounds and the North 7 million pounds. Was it the British paying the taxes? The west became independent in 1951. You can't develop as a nation without joining hands together to pay tax which has been happening in Yoruba land for thousands of years. There were huge cities before the colonial era in Yoruba land and infact Yoruba land contained eighty percent of the cities in Nigeria early in the twentieth century and it should still contain up to fifty percent today. You can't run any civilization without revenue and it was not the British that taught the Yoruba to collect revenue. All towns had markets and markets were sources of revenue and all farmers paid a produce tax called isakole.

Ibadan had an army of over 100k in the nineteenth century. The Oyo at it's peak was said to have had calvary alone at up to 300k. Was it the British funding all that? Or Nigeria?

You keep saying Nigeria helped the Yoruba to stand up which is an insult because Nigeria is a set back for all members and not even only the Yoruba

What is 1960 ? The British made Lagos the capital in 1914. They Annexed Lagos in 1861. That means the British where in Lagos for 101 years. They lived in Lagos, Portharcourt and Jos extensively. I'm talking History and you are talking politics. Ask yourself why Ogun state, Oyo State has lagged behind in development. Why did Ogun state get it's Flyover bridge under Amosan in just 2013.

If the Yoruba were so good at development why is Lagos such a sharp contrast to places like Kogi, Oyo, Ondo ?

For vehicular infrastructure, the Odo-Ogun Bridge along the Oyo–Iseyin road is one of the oldest major river bridges in the state. Originally constructed around 1950 by the British colonial administration, it underwent a comprehensive reconstruction and expansion by the Oyo State Government.Additionally, while it is a road rather than a bridge, the Ibadan–Oyo Town road built in 1906 holds the historic title of the first road for motorized vehicles

Kalulu44:
My friend I am the one that will teach you English you hear. You're trying to stand on the fence between love and hate which is not possible.
You either love/like or hate, there's nothing like avoiding or in-between.
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You're not interacting with a kid.
Your statement again is: you will never let them near power. That's pure hatred. Don't sugarcoat it

The bolded is very doubtful but since you are an OBIDIENTS I will just accept it for what say it is.