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favor914:
Ok, of what use is that to us?

So it doesn't bother you that a presidential candidate tells lies even when he doesn't have to

For those asking how does this concern what's happening in Nigeria now.... I can only say we deserve the kind of leaders we get...

You criticise those who support tinubu but you support someone who tells lies even when he doesn't need to.......

Why on earth would you make such a claim

What do you stand to gain

Werin dey sup for Nigeria sef.....

One go come promise heaven and earth wen e no go fit deliver...

The other go come dey lie anyhow even when he doesn't need to lie....

Not once... Not twice.... Not 3 times... Haba!!!!

Drfernandez:
I wonder when people will understand that Grok - like any AI chatbot - is not always correct and that the results it produces any given time, which it can also change within a twinkle of an eye, are human entries. For example, if you, the nobody reading this comment now, should make an entry that you are the new president; especially doing so for a repeated number of times, Grok will automatically assume you are.

OK.... Now without using grok, prove to us that what Peter obi said is accurate... Prove that all the professors in a faculty in any major university in the world are all ex convicts..... Let's leave the misinformation of grok as you call it....

stuffs2002:

Peter Obi is a pathological liar and he can't help himself.


Peter Obi should seek the help of a psychiatrist because his case is a mental case

He is a pathological liar

CharlesCNG:
Peter Obi has a serious problem with careless exaggeration.

USC does have a Prison Education Project, where students and faculty engage incarcerated people through academic programmes. But that is not the same thing as claiming USC has a faculty where “everyone” is an ex-convict, with a dean and registrar who spent years in jail.

That is not analysis. That is storytelling without discipline.

A man who wants to be President must be careful with facts, especially when speaking publicly. Leadership is not motivational speaking. It requires accuracy, judgment and intellectual honesty.

This is the recurring problem: Obi hears a powerful anecdote, stretches it into a grand moral lesson, and expects applause before anyone asks for verification. [color=#990000]

Presidents cannot govern by vibes, half-truths and emotional illustrations.

If you cannot describe a university programme accurately, how do you expect people to trust your description of national policy?
Anecdotes are not evidence, and exaggeration is not leadership.

At the red bolded :
Could you cite other instances where he has made similar careless exaggerations ?

By the way, we all (as humans) have the tendency to exaggerate to some degree when we don't have all the facts (and having all the facts is difficult most times). Obi's focus when making the speech was not about describing the faculty, but rather to cite an example of how ex-convicts are being transformed into valuable parts of the society and how we can emulate that in Nigeria too.

The problem is that you guys see Obi from a perfectionist's prism and criticise anything he doesn't do (or say) perfectly.

AlbertNewton:
At the red bolded :
Could you cite other instances where he has made similar careless exaggerations ?

By the way, we all (as humans) have the tendency to exaggerate to some degree when we don't have all the facts (and having all the facts is difficult most times). Obi's focus when making the speech was not about describing the faculty, but rather to cite an example of how ex-convicts are being transformed into valuable parts of the society and how we can emulate that in Nigeria too.

The problem is that you guys see Obi from a perfectionist's prism and criticise anything he doesn't do (or say) perfectly.

You his supporters made us to believe he is

favor914:
Ok, of what use is that to us?

Meaning Peter Obi is fake and unintelligent person. Never do the right things or find out about genuine information therefore not qualified as a leader in all ramifications.

AlbertNewton:
At the red bolded :
Could you cite other instances where he has made similar careless exaggerations ?

By the way, we all (as humans) have the tendency to exaggerate to some degree when we don't have all the facts (and having all the facts is difficult most times). Obi's focus when making the speech was not about describing the faculty, but rather to cite an example of how ex-convicts are being transformed into valuable parts of the society and how we can emulate that in Nigeria too.

The problem is that you guys see Obi from a perfectionist's prism and criticise anything he doesn't do (or say) perfectly.

Obi claimed he got a loan from a UK Bank by simply walking into their premises and showing them his business plan and how he can repay the money.

Obi claimed the bank gave him the loan without need for any collateral simply based on his business plan.

He dropped this lie a few weeks back in one of his useless public speeches which he used to condemn the Nigerian banking sector and their insistence on collateral backed loans .

The number of lies obi has dropped just this last 2 months plenty .

If you want, I will create a separate topic for that alone and other posters here will freely contribute to that topic on the innumerable lies obi has been dropping over the years

Pious101:
Are U asking of what use is a model which he has observe?

If U had listen with open mind U will know that he is stating that going to prison shouldn't being the end of ones career, ambition or desire of what one should be.

He is stating that institution create an avenue where ex-convict who have been rehabilitated can also work within an environment without stereotype.

Now as a presidential candidate who have studied d model, he intend to introduce such a system in Nigeria.

Oh, ok like repentant bandits, IPOB and bokoharam? But why did he and his followers condemned the ones Buhari did.

He just mixed up the names of the schools. That's not necessarily a lie nau. Honest mistake.

Jayhome24:
You guys just love wasting your time replying a bloody okrika trader who knew nothing about politics.

He is calling people who went to university of Califonia ex convict he forgot this statement can seriously put him in trouble. This statement is very heavy and may carry serious consequency cus if all the ex student and the current students stand against him for defaming their institution wallahi obi go melt.

Why is this obi don't reason before he talks? I said this man lack character and lack leadership quality.

Funniest thing is he obi is hidden his UNN degree with Sunday Date, only obi under the sun got "Sunday Date" on his degree tell him if I lie he should bring it out, then who is a criminal here?

Sunday Date?

Hope I read that well?
Or should I really care because every blunder don be like normal for this we country

Peter Obi was right after all, search Google...Unchained Scholars

Very unintelligent and shameful comment, must someone openly lie even without a prepared speech?
I don't understand

happney65:
Okay,let your tinubu come out and address Nigerians like that with no prepared speech or anything and I'll give you 100K

If he can do it this month

Your time starts NOW.

GreenCovering:
Sunday Date?

Hope I read that well?
Or should I really care because every blunder don be like normal for this we country

If I lie about obi UNN degree Dated Sunday I challenge him to produce it let the public see it.

It boils me UP when a real ciminl pointing fingers. Tell Obi I said he should provide that 3rd degree he claimed he got from UNN.

UNN is not in Florida or Aukland its here in Nigeria. UNN(Unversty of Nigeria, Nsukka)

Dennisochampa:
OK.... Now without using grok, prove to us that what Peter obi said is accurate... Prove that all the professors in a faculty in any major university in the world are all ex convicts..... Let's leave the misinformation of grok as you call it....

I am not the cause of your lack of comprehension and frustration in general. I suggest you look for your mates to engage because I don't have spare time for nonsense.

negbike:
He just mixed up the names of the schools. That's not necessarily a lie nau. Honest mistake.

Utter nonsense

So an entire faculty in a US college is populated by ex convicts .

Tell us the university that has this envious record .

yarimo:
Very unfortunate man always speaking like he is suffering from too much intake of tramadol, of what use is that to Nigeria and Nigerians?

Shey you sef get 5 billion naira and fit publish apology for 5 national dailies including court appearances in Onitsha?. Seyi go deny you o.

Flangelo12:
And they have a faculty made up of ex-convicts?

Yes

Pious101:
Are U asking of what use is a model which he has observe?

If U had listen with open mind U will know that he is stating that going to prison shouldn't being the end of ones career, ambition or desire of what one should be.

He is stating that institution create an avenue where ex-convict who have been rehabilitated can also work within an environment without stereotype.

Now as a presidential candidate who have studied d model, he intend to introduce such a system in Nigeria.

Oga the Nigerian open university has been accepting current and ex convicts for years. So we actually have a medium for such

Drfernandez:
I wonder when people will understand that Grok - like any AI chatbot - is not always correct and that the results it produces any given time, which it can also change within a twinkle of an eye, are human entries. For example, if you, the nobody reading this comment now, should make an entry that you are the new president; especially doing so for a repeated number of times, Grok will automatically assume you are.

Oga USC doesn't have such s program if it did you'll see it on their website.

Pious101:
Are U asking of what use is a model which he has observe?

If U had listen with open mind U will know that he is stating that going to prison shouldn't being the end of ones career, ambition or desire of what one should be.

He is stating that institution create an avenue where ex-convict who have been rehabilitated can also work within an environment without stereotype.

Now as a presidential candidate who have studied d model, he intend to introduce such a system in Nigeria.

If he is looking for guinea pigs ,a set is just about to or has arrived from Ethiopia... what is the afdress of his lsboratory?

AlbertNewton:
At the red bolded :
Could you cite other instances where he has made similar careless exaggerations ?

By the way, we all (as humans) have the tendency to exaggerate to some degree when we don't have all the facts (and having all the facts is difficult most times). Obi's focus when making the speech was not about describing the faculty, but rather to cite an example of how ex-convicts are being transformed into valuable parts of the society and how we can emulate that in Nigeria too.

The problem is that you guys see Obi from a perfectionist's prism and criticise anything he doesn't do (or say) perfectly.

Yes, I can cite other examples, and that is exactly the point.

Nobody is saying human beings do not make mistakes. The issue is that Peter Obi has built a whole political brand around “Go and Verify,” data, figures, examples and global comparisons. Once you make statistics your selling point, accuracy stops being optional.

This is not about one harmless slip. He once claimed that almost 100 out of 150 NBA players were Nigerians. That was fact-checked as false. He claimed Nigeria’s total exports in 2021 were below $30 billion. That was also fact-checked as false, because the figure was closer to $47 billion. He claimed Nigeria had only two million vehicles in 2018. NBS data put the figure at over 11 million. He has also made misleading comparisons on African trade, bank credit to GDP, and even HDI categories involving China, Indonesia, Vietnam and Nigeria.

So please, let us not pretend this is one innocent exaggeration about a faculty.

The problem is the pattern: Obi often uses dramatic examples and loose figures to create moral authority. Then when the facts are checked, his supporters say, “That was not the main point.” But if the details are not important, why use them to sell the point?

A man asking to govern over 200 million people cannot be defended with “everybody exaggerates.” Governance is not motivational speaking. Policy is built on facts, not vibes.

So yes, prison reform is a valid point. Ex-convict rehabilitation is a valid point. But a valid message does not excuse careless embellishment.

When your campaign slogan is “Go and Verify,” you should not be offended when people actually verify.

freshvine:
Peter Obi intellectual capacity compared to Tinubu's incoherent diatribes is like north pole to south pole of the earth gravitational pull

This is the standard Obidient deflection: once Obi’s record or claims are questioned, they quickly drag in Tinubu’s speaking style as if that automatically proves Obi’s intellectual depth.

But intelligence is not measured by speaking in smooth sentences alone. A man can sound polished and still be careless with facts. A man can speak calmly and still build arguments on wrong figures. So let us not confuse presentation with substance.

Peter Obi’s supposed “intellectual capacity” must also be tested by accuracy, depth, consistency and policy seriousness. And on that score, he has questions to answer.

This is a politician whose public claims have been repeatedly fact-checked. He once claimed almost 100 out of 150 NBA players were Nigerians; that was false. He claimed Nigeria had only about two million vehicles in 2018; NBS data showed over 11 million. He claimed Nigeria’s 2021 exports were below $30 billion; fact-checkers put the figure much higher. His 2018 vice-presidential debate claims were also reviewed, with several found false, exaggerated or only partly true.

So when you talk about intellectual capacity, please define it properly. Is it the ability to drop figures dramatically without verifying them? Is it the ability to repeat global comparisons that collapse under scrutiny? Is it the ability to say “Go and Verify” while making claims that fail verification?

Tinubu’s communication style can be criticised. Nobody is denying that. But that does not automatically turn Obi into Einstein of Onitsha market.

The issue before us is Obi’s own credibility. If his data is wrong, [i]his polish becomes packagin[/i]g. If his figures are careless, his confidence becomes performance.

So please, stop hiding Obi’s loose statistics behind Tinubu’s grammar. We are discussing facts, not elocution class.

Drfernandez:
I wonder when people will understand that Grok - like any AI chatbot - is not always correct and that the results it produces any given time, which it can also change within a twinkle of an eye, are human entries. For example, if you, the nobody reading this comment now, should make an entry that you are the new president; especially doing so for a repeated number of times, Grok will automatically assume you are.

1. Can you give us a figure for the "repeated number of times" before AI like Grok "assumes" you are the president?

2. How come you haven't claimed presidential status since you have the formula to make AI assume you are the president? So that when we Google the president of Nigeria, your face and details show up everywhere?

3. Are you Peter Obi?

4. Stop lying abeg! Please stop it!

CharlesCNG:
This is the standard Obidient deflection: once Obi’s record or claims are questioned, they quickly drag in Tinubu’s speaking style as if that automatically proves Obi’s intellectual depth.

But intelligence is not measured by speaking in smooth sentences alone. A man can sound polished and still be careless with facts. A man can speak calmly and still build arguments on wrong figures. So let us not confuse presentation with substance.

Peter Obi’s supposed “intellectual capacity” must also be tested by accuracy, depth, consistency and policy seriousness. And on that score, he has questions to answer.

This is a politician whose public claims have been repeatedly fact-checked. He once claimed almost 100 out of 150 NBA players were Nigerians; that was false. He claimed Nigeria had only about two million vehicles in 2018; NBS data showed over 11 million. He claimed Nigeria’s 2021 exports were below $30 billion; fact-checkers put the figure much higher. His 2018 vice-presidential debate claims were also reviewed, with several found false, exaggerated or only partly true.

So when you talk about intellectual capacity, please define it properly. Is it the ability to drop figures dramatically without verifying them? Is it the ability to repeat global comparisons that collapse under scrutiny? Is it the ability to say “Go and Verify” while making claims that fail verification?

Tinubu’s communication style can be criticised. Nobody is denying that. But that does not automatically turn Obi into Einstein of Onitsha market.

The issue before us is Obi’s own credibility. If his data is wrong, [i]his polish becomes packagin[/i]g. If his figures are careless, his confidence becomes performance.

So please, stop hiding Obi’s loose statistics behind Tinubu’s grammar. We are discussing facts, not elocution class.

After spewing this beautiful nonsense of hatred, kindly balance your perceptions with what he has done right. Give us his accurate statistics too.

You remember a man that said 20 million youths should be recruited into the Army and their meal will be cassava and agbado? He's currently your President.

Your President, someone who cannot keep a conversation without gaffe.

He was recently asked about insecurity and he went brain dead muttering incoherent statement to the consternation of Nigerians.

favor914:
Ok, of what use is that to us?

🤣🤣 For folks who needs to know their messiah is full of lamba

freshvine:
After spewing this beautiful nonsense of hatred, kindly balance your perceptions with what he has done right. Give us his accurate statistics too.

You remember a man that said 20 million youths should be recruited into the Army and their meal will be cassava and agbado? He's currently your President.

Your President, someone who cannot keep a conversation without gaffe.

He was recently asked about insecurity and he went brain dead muttering incoherent statement to the consternation of Nigerians.

My friend, I am beginning to think you people are determined to prove my thesis better than I ever could.

I discussed Peter Obi.

You replied with Tinubu, cassava, agbado and gaffes.

You asked for balance, but immediately changed the subject.

If Obi’s record is strong, defend it.

Give the statistics.

You asked me to balance my perceptions. Fair enough.

But tell me, why must balancing Peter Obi's record involve changing the subject to Tinubu?

“what about Tinubu?” is not a defence of Peter Obi.

It is deflection.


The inability to discuss Peter Obi without immediately [b]suffering a Tinubu reflex [/b]should be studied by psychologists.

Okay.. So he mentioned the wrong University but the one he spoke of is still in California.

As an educationist who is always in and around tertiary institutions around the world, one can understand such minor mistakes.

Pious101:
Are U asking of what use is a model which he has observe?

If U had listen with open mind U will know that he is stating that going to prison shouldn't being the end of ones career, ambition or desire of what one should be.

He is stating that institution create an avenue where ex-convict who have been rehabilitated can also work within an environment without stereotype.

Now as a presidential candidate who have studied d model, he intend to introduce such a system in Nigeria.

Stop talking trash talk... It has been confirmed that he lied!