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Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by P1PrinceKT(m): 10:16am On Jun 16
State Police is a tool state Governors may used to oppress their critics and crush opposition.
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by wolebest: 10:17am On Jun 16
Madam Ezekwesili, at least our fate will be in our own hands with each state having its own police department maned by its indigenes, while the Federal Police will be a support.
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by Kobicove(m): 10:17am On Jun 16
Ten06:
The checkpoints for eguje collection will increase. All of them will still come to the road to collect. No one will go and rescue kidnapped victims or fight bandits among them
Just imagine the nightmare one will face when travelling by road...you might encounter policemen from 6 or 7 different states then also have to deal with federal policemen.

If there is an accidental discharge by a policeman and it results in death, finding the culprit will be virtually impossible because all the states will deny culpability!
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by Kobicove(m): 10:22am On Jun 16
wolebest:
Madam Ezekwesili, at least our fate will be in our own hands with each state having its own police department maned by its indigenes, while the Federal Police will be a support.
Meaning that if an indigene of the state has a quarrel with a non-indigene of that state the state police will automatically support their brother? angry
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by frog12: 10:55am On Jun 16
na sharia. ask the governors that introduced it

seunmsg:
The constitution is why Boko Haram are killing people? The constitution is why Ipob are killing people and eating human flesh? The constitution is why fulani terrorists are kidnapping people and displacing villages?

The duplicitous character of this woman is worse than that of Peter Obi. What exactly is the definition of restructuring in Nigeria's context if not what Tinubu is doing? Local government autonomy, regional development commissions for all regions, decentralization of electricity generation and distribution, tax reforms to give states and LGA more revenues, now state police. So, what's restructuring if not all these?

When Oby was in bed as minister with Obasanjo, what restructuring did she put in place other than messing up the secondary school system? When Jonathan was president, what restructuring did he introduced? Now that someone is finally getting things done, they are still hating on him. Sigh!
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by Kunlemac: 10:59am On Jun 16
It will reduce it by 90%
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by MORhodes: 11:04am On Jun 16
seunmsg:
The constitution is why Boko Haram are killing people? The constitution is why Ipob are killing people and eating human flesh? The constitution is why fulani terrorists are kidnapping people and displacing villages?

The duplicitous character of this woman is worse than that of Peter Obi. What exactly is the definition of restructuring in Nigeria's context if not what Tinubu is doing? Local government autonomy, regional development commissions for all regions, decentralization of electricity generation and distribution, tax reforms to give states and LGA more revenues, now state police. So, what's restructuring if not all these?

When Oby was in bed as minister with Obasanjo, what restructuring did she put in place other than messing up the secondary school system? When Jonathan was president, what restructuring did he introduced? Now that someone is finally getting things done, they are still hating on him. Sigh!
If you no mention Peter Obi u no fit sleep
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by SmartyPants(m): 11:12am On Jun 16
This lady is an attention seeker. Is it now that the push for state policing is gathering momentum that one should be talking about restructuring? Is it not wiser to take it one step at a time?
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by SmartyPants(m): 11:14am On Jun 16
Kobicove:
Just imagine the nightmare one will face when travelling by road...you might encounter policemen from 6 or 7 different states then also have to deal with federal policemen.

If there is an accidental discharge by a policeman and it results in death, finding the culprit will be virtually impossible because all the states will deny culpability!
How is that possible - there is obviously territorial jurisdiction. There's no reason for policemen from Lagos to be found on the roads in Ogun. And I don't see how any state would allow such.
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by martinmiller: 11:21am On Jun 16
treesun:
https://punchng.com/state-police-wont-fix-insecurity-ezekwesili-warns-urges-full-restructuring/
The nigerian problems are foundational and I want to beleive we are so backwards as a nation but then eyes are beginning to open up to woes, reality about the evil 😈 bedeviling the nation. Dr obi is right that Nigeria claimed to be running a fedrating style of governance then shift the focus away from the center - restructuring is the way for discentralised public services and allocation and address the constitution, the constitution we are currently running is not fit for daily living for the masses. We can adopt from confab done in 2016.

This led administration is just a joke, it is a deliberate attempt by them to keep the masses poor and survive on crumbs. Millions of Nigeria are on survival mode, nothing more. If the foundational problem are not addressed, followed by restructuring then these rogues called politicians will not stop their evil agendas.
The problems of Nigeria are Nigerians, the politicians, their colonial masters and the civil service, no nation will ever prospered either without a great leader or a popular revolt.
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by 2mch(m): 11:42am On Jun 16
Ma, when you have no knowledge of what you are speaking of you need to keep your mouth shut
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by dequir: 11:43am On Jun 16
Let's separate for once into at least 6 nations, and relocate each tribe to their region. Peace will reign, tribalism and violence will cease or be almost eliminated, and economic development and positive competition among the separated nations will speedily start.
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by bjdon: 11:48am On Jun 16
Nigerians always like to chase the big mountain, when the solution to their problem is the little stone right in front of them.
Yes the country needs to be restructured, anyone with a half a working brain cell can see that, but such an exercise is going to take time, and will most likely be carried out in small steps.
Meanwhile the security issue is here with us RIGHT NOW! We need action NOW. Even state police while welcome, will take time to set up. My suggestion would be for 2 Bills to be passed by National Assembly,
Bill I: To give authorisation for Private Armed Security firms to be set up in the country. Employees in such firms would be fully vetted (most likely ex forces), and they can be deployed around schools and other high risk areas like buses, trains...
Bill2: Give legal backing to Nigerian citizens right to carry arms. We don't have to go down the same road as US(God Forbid) The arms allowed for private citizens will be regulated and must be kept at home.
If we can do these 2 things it will help very quickly to deter the kidnappers. Other measure can then follow in short order.
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by bjdon: 11:50am On Jun 16
dequir:
Let's separate for once into at least 6 nations, and relocate each tribe to their region. Peace will reign, tribalism and violence will cease or be almost eliminated, and economic development and positive competition among the separated nations will speedily start.
Dream on bro. If you do that, you will suddenly see Tiv fighting Fulani, Ijebu fighting Ibadan, Esan fighting Bini, Ijaw fighting itsekeri, Anambra fighting Ebonyi....
Tribalism is deeply ingrained in us sadly
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by dederocs(m): 11:55am On Jun 16
She means we need true federalism, which includes state police, full resources control, state autonomy. She is right. But state police is a good first step.
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by lawani(m): 11:59am On Jun 16
If insecurity is the problem then restructuring is just grammar. What is needed is the decentralization of security

State police
Local government police
University police and etc
And private security firms for profit
All armed with military grade weapons

Restructuring can not by any means solve the security challenge of the country if the proliferation of security outfits is not part of it..

Then the main fault in the constitution is how the representation at the center is shared followed by the issue of security. The natural resources not put there by anybody is not something worth fretting about that much. There are other faults though. However the issue of security is very urgent
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by meedoLock(m): 12:03pm On Jun 16
Well, i can barely see any president in today's Nigeria that could bring Nigeria into 100% in terms of restructuring. But from analysts perspective, it could be done in components, not by fiat. So, the push for state policing is a step in good direction, but the implementation must be good, precise and devoid of executive control.
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by BrickandLace(f): 12:07pm On Jun 16
She's right !

If truly northern governors are part of the insecurity up there. State police will be useless.
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by Honestey: 12:18pm On Jun 16
Is there anything you can do to make people who naturally hate you to appreciate your efforts?
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by dequir: 12:24pm On Jun 16
bjdon:
Dream on bro. If you do that, you will suddenly see Tiv fighting Fulani, Ijebu fighting Ibadan, Esan fighting Bini, Ijaw fighting itsekeri, Anambra fighting Ebonyi....
Tribalism is deeply ingrained in us sadly
Not in Yorubaland, they won't fight each other.
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by PigTormentor: 12:50pm On Jun 16
seunmsg:
The constitution is why Boko Haram are killing people? The constitution is why Ipob are killing people and eating human flesh? The constitution is why fulani terrorists are kidnapping people and displacing villages?

The duplicitous character of this woman is worse than that of Peter Obi. What exactly is the definition of restructuring in Nigeria's context if not what Tinubu is doing? Local government autonomy, regional development commissions for all regions, decentralization of electricity generation and distribution, tax reforms to give states and LGA more revenues, now state police. So, what's restructuring if not all these?

When Oby was in bed as minister with Obasanjo, what restructuring did she put in place other than messing up the secondary school system? When Jonathan was president, what restructuring did he introduced? Now that someone is finally getting things done, they are still hating on him. Sigh!
Ask her to lay out what she mean by restructuring and she will start stuttering. The word is fancy for anyone trying to get some cheap public attention.
What and what is restructuring, what does it entails?
Let her put it on paper what exactly she mean by that.
Tinubu has already removed some many power from the center back to the Local government. State police is another step in that direction. Each state is now allowed to generate their own power. These are real steps that will impact people's lives.
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by integrity16(m): 1:11pm On Jun 16
seunmsg:
The constitution is why Boko Haram are killing people? The constitution is why Ipob are killing people and eating human flesh? The constitution is why fulani terrorists are kidnapping people and displacing villages?

The duplicitous character of this woman is worse than that of Peter Obi. What exactly is the definition of restructuring in Nigeria's context if not what Tinubu is doing? Local government autonomy, regional development commissions for all regions, decentralization of electricity generation and distribution, tax reforms to give states and LGA more revenues, now state police. So, what's restructuring if not all these?

When Oby was in bed as minister with Obasanjo, what restructuring did she put in place other than messing up the secondary school system? When Jonathan was president, what restructuring did he introduced? Now that someone is finally getting things done, they are still hating on him. Sigh!
She meant full autonomy to federating units, let state control their resources while they remit taxes to the centre. That has been their song since time immemorial.
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by commoditiesnig(m): 1:15pm On Jun 16
Spot on Seun. I was also wondering what other “restructuring” is Oby talking about again after all this admin has already been putting in place.

Well I like the productive discourse around State Police, restructuring and the likes.

We need more intelligent deliberations like this to move the country forward.


seunmsg:
The constitution is why Boko Haram are killing people? The constitution is why Ipob are killing people and eating human flesh? The constitution is why fulani terrorists are kidnapping people and displacing villages?

The duplicitous character of this woman is worse than that of Peter Obi. What exactly is the definition of restructuring in Nigeria's context if not what Tinubu is doing? Local government autonomy, regional development commissions for all regions, decentralization of electricity generation and distribution, tax reforms to give states and LGA more revenues, now state police. So, what's restructuring if not all these?

When Oby was in bed as minister with Obasanjo, what restructuring did she put in place other than messing up the secondary school system? When Jonathan was president, what restructuring did he introduced? Now that someone is finally getting things done, they are still hating on him. Sigh!
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by blackpanda: 1:40pm On Jun 16
zoedew:
In one breath you are asking for your girls to be brought back while in another breath you say State Police is not it🧐. Truth is, no one knows the terrain better than State Police. Everywhere in the world that policing g has been properly done community and state police has been the way to go! The Sheriff knows almost everyone in his town and they know him. In the typical Borough it is not a secret that your next door neighbour is a police man or woman who will help tell your folks back home when the day's work is done that he just locked you up for some infraction and that your folks get dinner across to you in the cell!😅
And who will fund the State Policehuh States that are owing months in salaries to their workers or the Federal Governmenthuh
if its Federal Government, then it means nothing has changed. if its States , from where will they get the funds
In the end the State police will enventually become more unknown gunmen
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by blackpanda: 1:41pm On Jun 16
integrity16:
She meant full autonomy to federating units, let state control their resources while they remit taxes to the centre. That has been their song since time immemorial.
Who is stopping states from controlling their resourceshuh
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by blackpanda: 1:41pm On Jun 16
Kobicove:
Just imagine the nightmare one will face when travelling by road...you might encounter policemen from 6 or 7 different states then also have to deal with federal policemen.

If there is an accidental discharge by a policeman and it results in death, finding the culprit will be virtually impossible because all the states will deny culpability!
WISDOM!!!
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by blackpanda: 1:42pm On Jun 16
Gotocourt:
I'm a northerner and there are lots of vast ungoverned territories. I believe arming rural communities with automatic tools or employ them as LGA security should be the best approach. The federal, state police and military will come as back up 📌💯.
And who will fund the State Policehuh States that are owing months in salaries to their workers or the Federal Government?
if its Federal Government, then it means nothing has changed. if its States , from where will they get the funds
In the end the State police will enventually become more unknown gunmen
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by lawani(m): 2:08pm On Jun 16
blackpanda:
And who will fund the State Policehuh States that are owing months in salaries to their workers or the Federal Government?
if its Federal Government, then it means nothing has changed. if its States , from where will they get the funds
In the end the State police will enventually become more unknown gunmen
Is that your headache? It shouldn't be. Let those who are ready to spend money on security do so while others continue to spend money on unnecessary things like Hajj and etc. Nobody is saying all states should have police by force
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by femoree2(m): 2:09pm On Jun 16
Can she just keep quiet? When Peter obi gets there then she can tell him what will work
treesun:
https://punchng.com/state-police-wont-fix-insecurity-ezekwesili-warns-urges-full-restructuring/
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by integrity16(m): 2:19pm On Jun 16
blackpanda:
Who is stopping states from controlling their resourceshuh
Do states control their resources as we speak?
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by atobs4real(m): 2:58pm On Jun 16
zoedew:
In one breath you are asking for your girls to be brought back while in another breath you say State Police is not it🧐. Truth is, no one knows the terrain better than State Police. Everywhere in the world that policing g has been properly done community and state police has been the way to go! The Sheriff knows almost everyone in his town and they know him. In the typical Borough it is not a secret that your next door neighbour is a police man or woman who will help tell your folks back home when the day's work is done that he just locked you up for some infraction and that your folks get dinner across to you in the cell!😅
I will also suggest the local government areas have security system and be monitored.
Re: State Police Won’t Fix Insecurity, Ezekwesili Urges Full Restructuring by Babanah: 3:22pm On Jun 16
We have to be a bit creative about this lingering problem. We don’t need state policing . What we need is a decentralised Nigerian Police. Power should be devolved to the Police Commissioners in the states. The IG cannot run the police from Abuja. Second funding should come from the three tiers of government. So the state police commissioner will prepare his budget based on funding input from the three tiers of government.The federal government may pay salaries, the state governments in charge of building infrastructure and local governments could maintain for the benefit of the local population. Also the state police commissioner will only be appointed after prior consultation with the state government, conversely if the state police commissioner is not up to the job, the state governor can publicly declare that he has lost confidence in the state police commissioner. In that case there are checks and balances.
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