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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:20am On Jun 18
TemporaryHansel:
Like bro this is literally the best time to finish off Iran, they've never been this weak and exposed.
Trump has made a very terrible decision because of fear of bad headlines and protests.
The useless Americans that have gotten used to soft life will regret this their softness when one of these dictators use their softness against their government in a major war.


I understand Netanyahu's frustration fr. Only option now is for Israel to crush Iran without the US, I believe they can do it. They should ignore whatever Trump says because they might not have this chance again after a while.
Americans love the soft life. The democracy and freedom is also the drawback because every small inconvenience is blown out of proportion. Trump is fighting Iran. Iranians can be 6months without electricity and their govt will be killing those who disagree while continuing the war while in America any small increase in prices, the whole nation is crying

Unlike other nations, the US has not faced war at least on its own homeland in generations . So any little deviation from normal life is blown out of proportion.

Its like me and you fighting while my own wife dares not complain your own wife is always screaming about how the fight with me is making the family suffer. If I know that then you are surely going to lose cos I am now aware that you cannot endure as you will be collecting heat from me and from your wife at the same time
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:38am On Jun 18
Warfare of these days you cannot have a total victory and complete surrender cos the opponent can continue to fight and you cant just kill everyone like wars of old otherwise you will get international community saying you are committing genocide.

The type of defeat and surrender of Nazi Germany with the tactics and atrocities that made them to surrender will never be allowed in modern warfare and politics

Mighty Russia is stuck with Ukraine for 4yrs, US was bogged down by Vietnam and Afghanistan for years. Israel was held down by Hamas

Its not like the superior power didnt have the might to annihilate the weaker but new world war conventions will not allow them to
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by monerozi5590: 5:40am On Jun 18
Trump has gone mad again. Mumu president. Running mouth like tap. Nonsense.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Realmrsean: 6:52am On Jun 18
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raumdeuter:
Otedola was minding his business in Monaco when Busybody paparazzi went to film him with a baddie



I have heard that he is in a kind of open marriage Sha where he dey chop outside steadily

See the woman wey these Gen Z weak guys dey call plus size. Men like Realseankafor no go fit mend this kain babe and claim she is plus size

Na only bonga fish skinny lekpa dey enter their eyes
life na once. Make ote💵 enjoy.
Na him turn
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by NinjaMetahuman: 7:59am On Jun 18
This is why you should never vote based on populism or emotions instead of common sense.

Never elect people who talk a lot but lack substance to back up their words.

See the clown they elected punch a hole in American invincibility?

If a small country like Iran can do this, imagine what a country like China will do if America decides to go beyond media campaigns.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by NinjaMetahuman: 8:03am On Jun 18
raumdeuter:
Warfare of these days you cannot have a total victory and complete surrender cos the opponent can continue to fight and you cant just kill everyone like wars of old otherwise you will get international community saying you are committing genocide.

The type of defeat and surrender of Nazi Germany with the tactics and atrocities that made them to surrender will never be allowed in modern warfare and politics

Mighty Russia is stuck with Ukraine for 4yrs, US was bogged down by Vietnam and Afghanistan for years. Israel was held down by Hamas

Its not like the superior power didnt have the might to annihilate the weaker but new world war conventions will not allow them to
A sensible leader, not out of touch with reality, would have known this, instead of believing the world is still in 1920.

The fact that he woke up, kidnapped the leader of a foreign country, and bombed countries that couldn't fight back made him think America is still invincible when we now live in a world where the global economy is one supply chain away from collapsing.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 8:04am On Jun 18
If Peter Obi's plan to end insecurity is to rehabilitate and engage bandits, then he's no different from the APC that he is condemning.

Every southern president/candidate must always bow down and please the North, even at the expense of the South where they come from.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 9:13am On Jun 18
izzou:
If Peter Obi's plan to end insecurity is to rehabilitate and engage bandits, then he's no different from the APC that he is condemning.

Every southern president/candidate must always bow down and please the North, even at the expense of the South where they come from.
Q: Will you negotiate with bandits?

Peter Obi: In uniting the country, anybody who wants peace I will talk with him, I will negotiate with him. Anybody who wants war, we will go to war.

Do you believe Boko Haram, Bandits and all other splinter orgs, at the scale they've grown to will be defeated solely through kinetic means?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 9:48am On Jun 18
Theflint1:
Q: Will you negotiate with bandits?

Peter Obi: In uniting the country, anybody who wants peace I will talk with him, I will negotiate with him. Anybody who wants war, we will go to war.

Do you believe Boko Haram, Bandits and all other splinter orgs, at the scale they've grown to will be defeated solely through kinetic means?
Absolutely, Yes.

I will never ever ever subscribe to the school of negotiating with a kidnapper.

At what point should we even draw the line as a country?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 9:56am On Jun 18
raumdeuter:
Americans love the soft life. The democracy and freedom is also the drawback because every small inconvenience is blown out of proportion. Trump is fighting Iran. Iranians can be 6months without electricity and their govt will be killing those who disagree while continuing the war while in America any small increase in prices, the whole nation is crying

Unlike other nations, the US has not faced war at least on its own homeland in generations . So any little deviation from normal life is blown out of proportion.

Its like me and you fighting while my own wife dares not complain your own wife is always screaming about how the fight with me is making the family suffer. If I know that then you are surely going to lose cos I am now aware that you cannot endure as you will be collecting heat from me and from your wife at the same time
If that world war 2 was fought in 2026, Europe would've been under Germans now, because these current Americans won't allow their Gov to enter the war, even if they do they'll pressure the admin to leave within a month once prices of goods and services go up as usual.


The current US should never try to fight a direct war against China and Russia sha, they'll lose before it even starts, unless they do something about their overly soft citizens.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 10:00am On Jun 18
NinjaMetahuman:
This is why you should never vote based on populism or emotions instead of common sense.

Never elect people who talk a lot but lack substance to back up their words.

See the clown they elected punch a hole in American invincibility?

If a small country like Iran can do this, imagine what a country like China will do if America decides to go beyond media campaigns.
The current US will lose a war with China before it even starts.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 10:16am On Jun 18
izzou:
Absolutely, Yes.

I will never ever ever subscribe to the school of negotiating with a kidnapper.

At what point should we even draw the line as a country?
Once they declare war on the country their should not be room for negotiation, the government should return the same energy in full force.
The reason these assholes are multiplying is because they can surrender later
Obi is foolishly acting on script because he needs the northern votes
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:42am On Jun 18
iamoyindamola:
Once they declare war on the country their should not be room for negotiation, the government should return the same energy in full force.
The reason these assholes are multiplying is because they can surrender later
Obi is foolishly acting on script because he needs the northern votes
No consequences for crimes anymore.

Someone is kidnapping people for money. You say you go negotiate with am.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 11:17am On Jun 18
izzou:
No consequences for crimes anymore.

Someone is kidnapping people for money. You say you go negotiate with am.
It's really frustrating
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:31am On Jun 18
Theflint1:
Q: Will you negotiate with bandits?

Peter Obi: In uniting the country, anybody who wants peace I will talk with him, I will negotiate with him. Anybody who wants war, we will go to war.

Do you believe Boko Haram, Bandits and all other splinter orgs, at the scale they've grown to will be defeated solely through kinetic means?
What's there to negotiate with Boko Haram and Bandits?

1. Boko Haram wants to fight a Jihad against western education and Islamize the entire West Africa. What is there to negotiate/dialogue with them? Will you tell them to drop extremist views and belief system? For what ? What will they be dropping it for ? What will you be offering them at the negotiation table?

2. Bandits are criminals who have set their mind to kidnap, plunder, extort and kill their fellow citizens all in the name of doing "business". They do not have any reasonable right or point they may say they are fighting for. What is their goal other than profiteering from criminality?
When Niger Delta militants were kidnapping expatriates and Nigerian oil workers in their region, they claimed they were fighting against environmental degradation, oil spillage and its attendant problem and marginalization of the region in the affairs of this country.

What will a bandit from Zamfara, Sokoto, Kebbi, Niger and Katsina claim they are fighting for which is reasonable ? This people would not embrace education that has potential of lifting them out of poverty. The farmers over there have FG through many intervention projects subsidize fertilizers for them. Why are they not engaging in agriculture like every other person instead of banditry, cattle rustling and kidnapping ?

It's not even like they have multi-billion dollars joint venture infrastructure like Niger Delta where FG gave the militants contracts to safeguard them from other thieves. Or are they(Bandits) going to expect FG to be paying them billions every month for being absolutely useless just because they have guns which they use for kidnapping and banditry?

The truth is any government that plans to or already negotiating with Bandits and Boko Haram is not a serious one at all. I share in Raumdeuter's sentiment that it is only a matter of time before such criminals and terrorists start demanding for political power like Hezbollah of Lebanon.

If indeed Obi made such reckless statement/proposition, then he's not going to be the solution to some of the problem we are presently facing under this APC administration.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by kodded(m): 11:31am On Jun 18
izzou:
If Peter Obi's plan to end insecurity is to rehabilitate and engage bandits, then he's no different from the APC that he is condemning.

Every southern president/candidate must always bow down and please the North, even at the expense of the South where they come from.
if Obi said that he will crush these terrorists and because of that statement, he loses northern support, does that mean the North are in support of these terrorists activities? huh
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 11:41am On Jun 18
kodded:
if Obi said that he will crush these terrorists and because of that statement, he loses northern support, does that mean the North are in support of these terrorists activities? huh
Majority of the attacks from the north were planned with insiders meaning these terrorists are people the villagers know.
Yes he will be losing their support, I still feel the best way is for the country to go there seperate ways one region can't be holding the country to ransom if not kill every last one of the terrorists with no opportunity to negotiate.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 11:41am On Jun 18
kodded:
if Obi said that he will crush these terrorists and because of that statement, he loses northern support, does that mean the North are in support of these terrorists activities? huh
I don't know, but I don't understand why this matter will always be pampered, especially by a Southerner.

The Oyo case is still fresh. A teacher was beheaded, and people, including children are still in captivity as we speak.

Thousands of Nigerian soldiers have lost their lives to this madness. Not just the life, but the investment and resources of the country on that soldier is lost too.

And then, we have a leader who thinks a man that kills another man for money deserves to be negotiated with?

At what point do we draw the line in Nigeria?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 11:44am On Jun 18
BlueRayDick:
What's there to negotiate with Boko Haram and Bandits?

1. Boko Haram wants to fight a Jihad against western education and Islamize the entire West Africa. What is there to negotiate/dialogue with them? Will you tell them to drop extremist views and belief system? For what ? What will they be dropping it for ? What will you be offering them at the negotiation table?

2. Bandits are criminals who have set their mind to kidnap, plunder, extort and kill their fellow citizens all in the name of doing "business". They do not have any reasonable right or point they may say they are fighting for. What is their goal other than profiteering from criminality?
When Niger Delta militants were kidnapping expatriates and Nigerian oil workers in their region, they claimed they were fighting against environmental degradation, oil spillage and its attendant problem and marginalization of the region in the affairs of this country.

What will a bandit from Zamfara, Sokoto, Kebbi, Niger and Katsina claim they are fighting for which is reasonable ? This people would not embrace education that has potential of lifting them out of poverty. The farmers over there have FG through many intervention projects subsidize fertilizers for them. Why are they not engaging in agriculture like every other person instead of banditry, cattle rustling and kidnapping ?

It's not even like they have multi-billion dollars joint venture infrastructure like Niger Delta where FG gave the militants contracts to safeguard them from other thieves. Or are they(Bandits) going to expect FG to be paying them billions every month for being absolutely useless just because they have guns which they use for kidnapping and banditry?

The truth is any government that plans to or already negotiating with Bandits and Boko Haram is not a serious one at all. I share in Raumdeuter's sentiment that it is only a matter of time before such criminals and terrorists start demanding for political power like Hezbollah of Lebanon.

If indeed Obi made such reckless statement/proposition, then he's not going to be the solution to some of the problem we are presently facing under this APC administration.
Thank you!

They have no agenda, other than to kill, and a sovereign nation has "Negotiation" on the table?

What kind of a cursed place is this?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by kodded(m): 11:58am On Jun 18
izzou:
I don't know, but I don't understand why this matter will always be pampered, especially by a Southerner.

The Oyo case is still fresh. A teacher was beheaded, and people, including children are still in captivity as we speak.

Thousands of Nigerian soldiers have lost their lives to this madness. Not just the life, but the investment and resources of the country on that soldier is lost too.

And then, we have a leader who thinks a man that kills another man for money deserves to be negotiated with?

At what point do we draw the line in Nigeria?
The government lacks the willpower to do something about this issue because you can't tell me that, in this era of drone technology, we still can't locate their hideouts in the forest as if we are living in the 18th century.

Even if it means partnering with Elon Musk and Starlink to find them in the forest, our government has refused to take meaningful action. Instead, all their focus is on next year's election.

Very shameful.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:01pm On Jun 18
izzou:
Thank you!

They have no agenda, other than to kill, and a sovereign nation has "Negotiation" on the table?

What kind of a cursed place is this?
There are videos of those Boko Haram guys beheading soldiers with their arms tied behind their backs. We all saw the video of that UNIJOS student that was tortured severely while in the custody of his captors and we also saw video of the Oyo school teacher that was beheaded.

How can a person see behold the visuals of such horrific sight and be talking about "Negotiation" with animals that carried out the acts?

It's just like patting murderers and robbers on the back for "job" done on their victims. Shame!
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:05pm On Jun 18
kodded:
The government lacks the willpower to do something about this issue because you can't tell me that, in this era of drone technology, we still can't locate their hideouts in the forest as if we are living in the 18th century.

Even if it means partnering with Elon Musk and Starlink to find them in the forest, our government has refused to take meaningful action. Instead, all their focus is on next year's election.

Very shameful.
That the government is shameless and irresponsible is an already established fact. Obi suggesting he will negotiate with the same criminals responsible for our insecurity challenge is he confirming he won't be doing things different than the current situation and that is also a shame!

I hope he will claim he was quoted out of context and that he will come out to publicly state expressly his position on addressing the insecurity challenge if he wants to be taken serious.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 12:14pm On Jun 18
NinjaMetahuman:
A sensible leader, not out of touch with reality, would have known this, instead of believing the world is still in 1920.

The fact that he woke up, kidnapped the leader of a foreign country, and bombed countries that couldn't fight back made him think America is still invincible when we now live in a world where the global economy is one supply chain away from collapsing.
Putin that went to war with Ukraine and stuck there, is he a sensible leader or out of touch with reality?
Bush that went to war in Afghanistan and got stuck there for 20yrs is he a sensible leader or out of touch with reality?
Obama that went to war in Libya and after killing Ghadafi further destabilized the whole region is he a sensible leader

You talk as if life is a script that we can determine the end from.the beginning
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 12:17pm On Jun 18
kodded:
if Obi said that he will crush these terrorists and because of that statement, he loses northern support, does that mean the North are in support of these terrorists activities? huh
When Gumi comes out to say you should be paying them because of one thing or the other

Or when El rufai claims that its genocide against the North

Should we ignore them
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m):
BlueRayDick:
What's there to negotiate with Boko Haram and Bandits?

1. Boko Haram wants to fight a Jihad against western education and Islamize the entire West Africa. What is there to negotiate/dialogue with them? Will you tell them to drop extremist views and belief system? For what ? What will they be dropping it for ? What will you be offering them at the negotiation table?

2. Bandits are criminals who have set their mind to kidnap, plunder, extort and kill their fellow citizens all in the name of doing "business". They do not have any reasonable right or point they may say they are fighting for. What is their goal other than profiteering from criminality?
When Niger Delta militants were kidnapping expatriates and Nigerian oil workers in their region, they claimed they were fighting against environmental degradation, oil spillage and its attendant problem and marginalization of the region in the affairs of this country.

What will a bandit from Zamfara, Sokoto, Kebbi, Niger and Katsina claim they are fighting for which is reasonable ? This people would not embrace education that has potential of lifting them out of poverty. The farmers over there have FG through many intervention projects subsidize fertilizers for them. Why are they not engaging in agriculture like every other person instead of banditry, cattle rustling and kidnapping ?

It's not even like they have multi-billion dollars joint venture infrastructure like Niger Delta where FG gave the militants contracts to safeguard them from other thieves. Or are they(Bandits) going to expect FG to be paying them billions every month for being absolutely useless just because they have guns which they use for kidnapping and banditry?

The truth is any government that plans to or already negotiating with Bandits and Boko Haram is not a serious one at all. I share in Raumdeuter's sentiment that it is only a matter of time before such criminals and terrorists start demanding for political power like Hezbollah of Lebanon.

If indeed Obi made such reckless statement/proposition, then he's not going to be the solution to some of the problem we are presently facing under this APC administration.
Regardless of how silly their reasons might be, at some point, non-kinetic approaches would have to be deployed, especially if the plan is to maintain the peace. 

Where Nigeria has failed so far is that the kinetic approach to the war hasn't been treated with the seriousness that's required. Buhari was soft on the crimes of his brothers, and possibly even complicit, while Tinubu has managed the security situation as an extension of politics. 

Any serious government would first fire the service chiefs, and their immediate replacements then promote some young field commanders that are ready to do damage to the terrorists. The defence budget will get increased, and the money actually spent on men and weapons so they can confront these guys with confidence, no be say dem go dey outgunned as is sometimes the case. If there's need to have mercenery boots on ground for speacial operations, bring them in. Increase the size and number of prisons to house terrorists and their supporters and allies, sharp sharp judgements, not the 4-10 years nonsense we've come to be used to.

While the victory is being won, give the chance for repentance for the less ideolgically stubborn ones. Women, children, and some of those that joined because of joblessness and hunger. Their ideological core, I'm sure they'd already be known, or would be known in the couse of the offensive, those ones can't be negotiated with, either kill them, or hand them lenghty-life prison sentences.

And it's not enough to just embark on the offensive (kinetic and non-kinetic) while things become business as usual. All the conditions that made Boko Haram grow the way it did up North will need to be addressed, through governance, education, employment and legislature that softens all of that extremism up North. 

It's not an easy task, certainly not one that Tinubu is equipped to handle, but a government that is serious about combating terrorism can do these things and negotiate from a position of strength, not the one we've grown to be accustomed to. 

And this isn't me saying this is what Obi has in mind when he says he will talk with those who want peace, it's up to him to say exactly what he means, or what his approach would be.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 12:46pm On Jun 18
izzou:
Absolutely, Yes.

I will never ever ever subscribe to the school of negotiating with a kidnapper.

At what point should we even draw the line as a country?
Even the US creates room for deal-cutting, both for domestic and foreign terrorists.

If na by how Donald Trump don dey shout all along, you go reason say e go commit those billions to Iran into their rebuliding efforts? Real life is quite different from movie rhetoric.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:01pm On Jun 18
Theflint1:
Regardless of how silly their reasons might be, at some point, non-kinetic approaches would have to be deployed, especially if the plan is to maintain the peace. 

Where Nigeria has failed so far is that the kinetic approach to the war hasn't been treated with the seriousness that's required. Buhari was soft on the crimes of his brothers, and possibly even complicit, while Tinubu has managed the security situation as an extension of politics. 

Any serious government would first fire the service chiefs, and their immediate replacements then promote some young field commanders that are ready to do damage to the terrorists. The defence budget will get increased, and the money spent on the men and weapons, so they can confront these guys with confidence, no be say dem go dey outgunned as is sometimes the case. If there's need to have mercenery boots on ground, they'd be brought in. Increase the size and number of prisons to house terrorists and their supporters and allies, sharp sharp judgements, no be the one dem go dey drag am for enternity. 

While this victory is being won, we introduce chance for repentance for the less ideolgically stubborn ones. Women, children, and some of those that joined because of joblessness and hunger. Their ideological core, I'm sure they'd get to be known in the process...those ones should be killed or given life prison sentences, no negotiation. 

And it's not enough to just embark on the offensive (kinetic and non-kinetic) while things become business as usual. All the conditions that made Boko Haram grow the way it did up North will need to be addressed, through governance, education, employment and legislature that softens all of that extremism up North. 

It's not an easy task, certainly not one that Tinubu is equipped to handle, but a government that is serious about combating terrorism can do these things and negotiate from a position of strength, not the one we've grown to be accustomed to. 

And this isn't me saying this is what Obi has in mind when he says he will talk with those who want peace, it's up to him to say exactly what he means, or what his approach would be.
To be sincere everything you've written here actually lack substance. The points I can pick from your post are

1. You despise Tinubu and his government, yet you've not given any clear difference between Tinubu's current approach and Obi's proposed approach to the security situation
2. You are re-echoing the very talking points we criticized Sheikh Gumi for(Most likely in your bid to make it look like Obi's suggestion isn't silly)
3. You are living in Utopia for thinking there's any position of strength the government can be that would make Fulani Jihadists and bandits listen and negotiate with them.

In simple terms without unnecessary word salad, pray tell what exactly will the government use as bargaining chip to "negotiate" with extremist groups and hardened murderers who have caused several families pain and sorrow.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by monerozi5590: 1:12pm On Jun 18
raumdeuter:
When Gumi comes out to say you should be paying them because of one thing or the other

Or when El rufai claims that its genocide against the North

Should we ignore them
El Rufai is against rehabilitation of bandits and all. El Rufai is for kill them the bad guys. He is very vocal about it.

Gumi is a mad man. He doesn't represent the North in any capacity. So many people here are against what he is saying.

This banditry is affecting everyone here, be it Hausa, Fulani and other tribes.

You have people with guns, what will you do?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 1:14pm On Jun 18
BlueRayDick:
To be sincere everything you've written here actually lack substance. The points I can pick from your post are

1. You despise Tinubu and his government, yet you've not given any clear difference between Tinubu's current approach and Obi's proposed approach to the security situation
2. You are re-echoing the very talking points we criticized Sheikh Gumi for(Most likely in your bid to make it look like Obi's suggestion isn't silly)
3. You are living in Utopia for thinking there's any position of strength the government can be that would make Fulani Jihadists and bandits listen and negotiate with them.

In simple terms without unnecessary word salad, pray tell what exactly will the government use as bargaining chip to "negotiate" with extremist groups and hardened murderers who have caused several families pain and sorrow.
Gumi advocated negotiating with bandits from a position of sympathy and without military pressure, that is different from what I advocated for.

And I said the hardened commanders should be killed or given lenghty prison sentences...how is that the same thing as what Gumi is advocating for?

Has the Nigerian government over the years handled insecurity like it's an existential threat, and done their best to combat it through generous and judicious allocation of resources?

Whether we like it or not, at some point, non-kinetic approaches will be deployed, especially targeted at women, children that were born into a life of crime, and economically-motivated recruits. Some of them would get light sentences, and plans would be put in place to ensure there's no recividism.

This isn't a 4 year plan, it's a plan that should look decades into the future.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter:
Theflint1:
Even the US creates room for deal-cutting, both for domestic and foreign terrorists.

If na by how Donald Trump don dey shout all along, you go reason say e go commit those billions to Iran into their rebuliding efforts? Real life is quite different from movie rhetoric.
Why are you stealing my lines Ogbeni

When I say it you all claim its the worst statement ever. When I said govt should meet the demands of the Oyo kidnappers for now, people said everything in the book, So you now realize it too
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 1:20pm On Jun 18
Theflint1:
Even the US creates room for deal-cutting, both for domestic and foreign terrorists.

If na by how Donald Trump don dey shout all along, you go reason say e go commit those billions to Iran into their rebuliding efforts? Real life is quite different from movie rhetoric.
So if I kidnap people in the US and kill them if I am not paid ransoms, you actually think Donald Trump will create a room to cut a deal with me?

How can you even look at this situation and compare it to the US and Iran? Are they the same?

Is Iran kidnapping Americans for ransom?

I am still asking anyone who cares to answer, where we as a country, should draw the line?

Asian countries are going tough on drug offences. A small milligram of cocaine fit give you life imprisonment, yet they are not cutting deals up and down.

Where exactly should we draw the line as a country, if someone who wants to kill for money can get a seat at the table?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 1:22pm On Jun 18
BlueRayDick:
To be sincere everything you've written here actually lack substance. The points I can pick from your post are

1. You despise Tinubu and his government, yet you've not given any clear difference between Tinubu's current approach and Obi's proposed approach to the security situation
2. You are re-echoing the very talking points we criticized Sheikh Gumi for(Most likely in your bid to make it look like Obi's suggestion isn't silly)
3. You are living in Utopia for thinking there's any position of strength the government can be that would make Fulani Jihadists and bandits listen and negotiate with them.

In simple terms without unnecessary word salad, pray tell what exactly will the government use as bargaining chip to "negotiate" with extremist groups and hardened murderers who have caused several families pain and sorrow.
No be small.

Since when Katsina and Zamfara has been paying bandits, how peaceful has those places been?

Nonsense!
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