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Meanwhile 55,000 doctors only for over 200 million Nigerians without houses of their own. This life ehn?😂

swaggerific:
Welfare package for Appeal Court judges? Who are they trying to deceive? Average Nigerians are struggling to eat, buy fuel, or afford basic rent, but the executive arm has billions to gift luxury mansions to the judiciary. No true democracy allows judges to accept massive financial favors from the very government whose policies and elections they are supposed to scrutinize. Dr. Baba-Ahmed is 100% right, this is likely a systemic inducement disguised as charity. You cannot expect a judge to be blind to justice when they are looking at the executive with gratitude for a free mansion.

Your argument sounds emotionally appealing, but it collapses under scrutiny.

First, you have quietly moved from "bribery" to "average Nigerians are suffering." These are two different arguments. The existence of poverty does not mean institutions should be weakened. By that logic, we should abolish legislators' salaries, military barracks and presidential security because many Nigerians are poor.

Second, you speak as though judges are receiving secret gifts from Bola Tinubu's personal account. They are not. These are institutional provisions funded through public resources, just like the salaries, vehicles and official residences provided to the Executive and Legislature.

Third, your phrase "free mansion" betrays a misunderstanding. A judge does not become compromised because he occupies an official residence any more than a senator becomes compromised because he lives in legislative quarters.

Fourth, no serious democracy relies on impoverishing judges to guarantee impartiality. Quite the contrary. Mature democracies understand that adequate remuneration and welfare are anti-corruption measures. A desperate judge is easier to intimidate, easier to induce and easier to compromise.

Fifth, gratitude is not the basis of judicial ethics. If judges cannot distinguish between constitutional duty and official welfare, then we have a problem much deeper than housing.

And finally, I find it amusing that some people trust judges with election petitions involving trillions of naira, but suddenly believe an official residence is enough to buy their conscience.

That says more about their view of judges than it does about the houses.

As the proverb says:

"You do not strengthen the roof of a house by removing its pillars."

A vulnerable judiciary is not an independent judiciary.

Poverty is not judicial reform.

And welfare is not bribery.

Kushites:
Fantastic logic and truth by AI ChatGPT.

Thank you. It is comforting to know that even AI can distinguish between welfare and bribery.

Unfortunately, some natural intelligence still appears to be buffering. 😁

Indeed. When facts become inconvenient, some people attack the keyboard instead of the argument.

Apparently, logic becomes "ChatGPT" when it refuses to cooperate with feelings. 😁

Kalulu44:
I have been reading all your epistles and all what I can say is that you're trying to be clever by half.
Who says the judiciary shouldn't be taking care of by the executive, but when the taking care of becomes extraordinary than normal. Then meaning must be read into it.
You expect a Judge who the executives rewarded hansomely more than he deserves to go against that executives in anything that they have interest in.
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My brother, all these your talks are just bobo juice and doesn't hold waters. You're paying and rewarding judges extravagantly, what happens to Doctors, Soldiers, Police Teachers and other government workers. Are they not deserving of same extravagant upgrade of lives. Make una dey deceive una sef by trying to defend this us*less government

My brother, thank you for reading my "epistles." At least unlike some comments, they contain arguments.

Now to your points.

First, an official residence for judges is not "extravagance." By your logic, military barracks are extravagant. Legislative quarters are extravagant. Presidential villas are extravagant. In every serious country, certain offices come with institutional accommodation.

Second, you say judges are being rewarded "more than they deserve." According to who? A Court of Appeal judge handles election petitions, constitutional disputes and multi-billion-naira cases. You want such a person worrying about rent and landlords?

Third, if a judge's conscience can be bought by an official residence, then your problem is not with the house but with the judge. By the same logic, legislators and ministers should be incapable of scrutinizing the executive because they too enjoy official perks.

Fourth, your "what about doctors, soldiers, police and teachers?" argument is a classic case of false choice. Improving judges' welfare does not require worsening that of others. In fact, I support better welfare for doctors, soldiers, police and teachers too. One good policy is not invalidated because another group also deserves attention.

Finally, I find it amusing that you describe official quarters as "extravagant." Apparently, in your ideal democracy, judicial independence is best protected with leaking roofs and overdue rent notices.


A judiciary weakened by financial vulnerability is far more dangerous than one strengthened by institutional dignity.

And please, if my "epistles" do not hold water, kindly stop drinking from them. 😁

Jamesclooney:
ChatGPT man strikes again 😂 Oga please use your brain. You’re embarrassing yourself

Interesting.

You have contributed exactly zero facts, zero arguments and zero rebuttals.

But somehow, I am the one embarrassing myself.

Apparently, intellectual bankruptcy now comes with a sense of humour. 😂

I just googled it and it looks like they get CofO of the houses! Wow. So it’s their own. It belongs to the judges. This is insane.

adenigga:
To add to your stand, at their retirement they will vacate the building then next promoted judge will pack in.

Nice attempt at gaslighting, but you completely missed the point.

My arguments are passionate because I actually want Nigeria to work. Nobody is asking for the judiciary to be impoverished. We, the unbiased Nigerians, are asking for Separation of Powers.

In a proper democracy, the Executive branch doesn't directly manage and hand out luxury real estate to the Judiciary as welfare packages. The judiciary's funds should be statutory and independent so they can build or buy whatever they need themselves. They won’t need Tinubu to approve and build them houses.

Let me break it down to you so you understand why giving houses to judiciary is bad. Who knows if those houses were bugged so the executive branch can completely listen into everything the judiciary does? Who knows if the executive put secret cameras in those homes to track the judges and their families? These are some of the things we Nigerians worry about when we say we want judiciary independence.

When Nyesom Wike and the Presidency act as the direct real estate agents by distributing mansions to judges, it creates a toxic culture of dependence. I heard that the judges get the CofO so that means the houses belong to them even at retirement.

A judge who owes their retirement luxury to the goodwill of the Executive cannot be trusted to be fully impartial when that same Executive is a party or litigant in the same courts the judges preside over. So my friend, its about institutional integrity, not poverty.

CharlesCNG:
Your argument sounds emotionally appealing, but it collapses under scrutiny.

First, you have quietly moved from "bribery" to "average Nigerians are suffering." These are two different arguments. The existence of poverty does not mean institutions should be weakened. By that logic, we should abolish legislators' salaries, military barracks and presidential security because many Nigerians are poor.

Second, you speak as though judges are receiving secret gifts from Bola Tinubu's personal account. They are not. These are institutional provisions funded through public resources, just like the salaries, vehicles and official residences provided to the Executive and Legislature.

Third, your phrase "free mansion" betrays a misunderstanding. A judge does not become compromised because he occupies an official residence any more than a senator becomes compromised because he lives in legislative quarters.

Fourth, no serious democracy relies on impoverishing judges to guarantee impartiality. Quite the contrary. Mature democracies understand that adequate remuneration and welfare are anti-corruption measures. A desperate judge is easier to intimidate, easier to induce and easier to compromise.

Fifth, gratitude is not the basis of judicial ethics. If judges cannot distinguish between constitutional duty and official welfare, then we have a problem much deeper than housing.

And finally, I find it amusing that some people trust judges with election petitions involving trillions of naira, but suddenly believe an official residence is enough to buy their conscience.

That says more about their view of judges than it does about the houses.

As the proverb says:

"You do not strengthen the roof of a house by removing its pillars."

A vulnerable judiciary is not an independent judiciary.

Poverty is not judicial reform.

And welfare is not bribery.

There’s NJC. If judges want cars they can get it through them. Imagine if frequent litigants start buying houses and cars and flights and expensive gifts for judges, how would you feel? Please don’t defend this nonsense.

If they paid you to defend them please go give it back to them because it’s not worth the destruction of the country you love.

CharlesCNG:
My brother, thank you for reading my "epistles." At least unlike some comments, they contain arguments.

Now to your points.

First, an official residence for judges is not "extravagance." By your logic, military barracks are extravagant. Legislative quarters are extravagant. Presidential villas are extravagant. In every serious country, certain offices come with institutional accommodation.

Second, you say judges are being rewarded "more than they deserve." According to who? A Court of Appeal judge handles election petitions, constitutional disputes and multi-billion-naira cases. You want such a person worrying about rent and landlords?

Third, if a judge's conscience can be bought by an official residence, then your problem is not with the house but with the judge. By the same logic, legislators and ministers should be incapable of scrutinizing the executive because they too enjoy official perks.

Fourth, your "what about doctors, soldiers, police and teachers?" argument is a classic case of false choice. Improving judges' welfare does not require worsening that of others. In fact, I support better welfare for doctors, soldiers, police and teachers too. One good policy is not invalidated because another group also deserves attention.

Finally, I find it amusing that you describe official quarters as "extravagant." Apparently, in your ideal democracy, judicial independence is best protected with leaking roofs and overdue rent notices.


A judiciary weakened by financial vulnerability is far more dangerous than one strengthened by institutional dignity.

And please, if my "epistles" do not hold water, kindly stop drinking from them. 😁

If the new houses to the judiciary are bugged then we are finished. Are they bugged? What if the executive branch is doing this to completely capture the judiciary then which branch would become the last hope of the common man? To be fair, if I were the president…and I want to be a dictator, the first thing I would do is capture the courts so no one would issue any unfavorable rulings. Then next thing is make the National Assembly super docile and completely subservient to me and my cronies. Nigerians really need to start seeing Nigeria as their own cherished property.

Kanwulia:
Meanwhile 55,000 doctors only for over 200 million Nigerians without houses of their own. This life ehn?😂

And people are here defending this nonsense

DatNiggaDaz:


Data boi don drop quote

From their Co.. ents, they will surely be known

I can conveniently pay the whole data boys put together. Them no reach to pay me

swaggerific:
Imagine calling a multi-billion naira Abuja mansion 'welfare.'

If the executive is so passionate about
welfare packages, let them extend that same luxury energy to the doctors, teachers, and civil servants who are actually keeping the country alive on starvation wages.

They only look after the judges because they know they'll need them when election petitions roll in. It looks exactly like institutional bribery, plain and simple, and it has probably completely eroded public trust in our courts. Nigerians really need to band together to stop this systemic corruption. No one else will come fix Nigeria for us…it’s us alone oh and the earlier we recognize that the better.

Judges no reach 40 all over
Doctors are over 40000
Judiciary is an arm of government
Only executive legislators and feeding fat b4
When we have 3 arm

All arm of government should hv government quarters

Macphenson:
You are the illiterate here. Why will Wike be building houses for judges? The judicial commission should be incharge of everything judiciary including the welfare of judges.

Wike is the FCT minister. Even with all these rubbish, Tinubu is still winning 2027 election

NJC is supposed to do it for the judges not directly from the executive branch. Which branch of government gives houses directly to its members?

Even legislators don’t get CofO of their quarters unless or until the legislature sells those properties to them. Wike is handing CofO directly to the judges right from the get go. So they are gifts.

Gifting luxury homes to a judge, any judge, creates a tough situation for that said judge to be impartial. If 40 vs 4000 is your argument then can start small by gifting other people the same welfare but on a smaller scale. Build them room and parlor and dash them. They’ll take too.

That’s an absurd argument. Please don’t support someone using your tax dollars to clearly curry favor from the judiciary. If you sue the government the same judge that received those houses would preside over your case. You would think they would do the honorable thing and recuse themselves from the case? No they would preside over that case and you, the individual, would expect a fair judgement?

Think of these things carefully people!

Menclothing1:
Judges no reach 40 all over
Doctors are over 40000
Judiciary is an arm of government
Only executive legislators and feeding fat b4
When we have 3 arm

All arm of government should hv government quarters

Misterone:
Wike is the FCT minister. Even with all these rubbish, Tinubu is still winning 2027 election

In a free and fair election he should not win because the suffering in the land is just too much. Don’t let them gaslight you into thinking your votes don’t count. They should count.

Misterone:
Wike is the FCT minister. Even with all these rubbish, Tinubu is still winning 2027 election

Also what exactly do you call rubbish? People complaining about the blatant subversion of the judiciary?

swaggerific:
There’s NJC. If judges want cars they can get it through them. Imagine if frequent litigants start buying houses and cars and flights and expensive gifts for judges, how would you feel? Please don’t defend this nonsense.

If they paid you to defend them please go give it back to them because it’s not worth the destruction of the country you love.

I am sorry but you are confidently wrong.

The NJC is not a construction company. It does not build judges’ houses, procure official quarters, award housing estates or manufacture vehicles.

The NJC’s core constitutional functions are appointment recommendations, discipline, removal processes, control and disbursement of judiciary funds. It is also involved in pensions/gratuities for retired federal judicial officers. Its powers are set out under Paragraph 21 of Part I of the Third Schedule to the 1999 Constitution.

So saying “let them get houses through NJC” sounds neat, but it misunderstands how government infrastructure works.

Also, comparing official judicial residences to “frequent litigants buying judges gifts” is a false equivalence. A litigant secretly buying a judge a car is bribery. Government providing institutional accommodation tied to judicial office is welfare.

One is private inducement.

The other is public institutional provision.

If you cannot distinguish between the two, then the problem is not the house; it is the reasoning.

Judges should not collect gifts from litigants. Agreed.

But judges should also not be left economically vulnerable in the name of fake purity.

Judicial independence is protected by transparent welfare, not by poverty.

swaggerific:
Nice attempt at gaslighting, but you completely missed the point.

My arguments are passionate because I actually want Nigeria to work. Nobody is asking for the judiciary to be impoverished. We, the unbiased Nigerians, are asking for Separation of Powers.

In a proper democracy, the Executive branch doesn't directly manage and hand out luxury real estate to the Judiciary as welfare packages. The judiciary's funds should be statutory and independent so they can build or buy whatever they need themselves. They won’t need Tinubu to approve and build them houses.

Let me break it down to you so you understand why giving houses to judiciary is bad. Who knows if those houses were bugged so the executive branch can completely listen into everything the judiciary does? Who knows if the executive put secret cameras in those homes to track the judges and their families? These are some of the things we Nigerians worry about when we say we want judiciary independence.

When Nyesom Wike and the Presidency act as the direct real estate agents by distributing mansions to judges, it creates a toxic culture of dependence. I heard that the judges get the CofO so that means the houses belong to them even at retirement.

A judge who owes their retirement luxury to the goodwill of the Executive cannot be trusted to be fully impartial when that same Executive is a party or litigant in the same courts the judges preside over. So my friend, its about institutional integrity, not poverty.

My brother, please stop abusing the word "gaslighting." Disagreeing with you is not gaslighting. The word has become the intellectual equivalent of a smoke bomb: throw it when the arguments become inconvenient.

Now to your points.

First, separation of powers does not mean separation of funding. If it did, the judiciary would collect taxes, issue bonds and generate revenue independently. That is not how constitutional democracies work. The three arms are separate in function, not in the source of public finance.

Second, you say the judiciary should "build or buy whatever they need themselves." With what? The judiciary does not print money. It receives appropriations from the same public treasury that funds the Executive and Legislature.

Third, your argument about bugged houses and secret cameras is astonishing. We have now left constitutional law and entered the realm of spy movies. By that logic, judges should not use official cars, official phones or official offices because microphones might be hidden there too.

Fourth, if the houses are tied to office and acquired through lawful public processes, they are institutional provisions, not personal gifts from Bola Tinubu or Nyesom Wike. The President does not withdraw money from his personal account to buy judges mansions.

Fifth, your argument proves too much. If official residences compromise judges, then salaries compromise judges. Pensions compromise judges. Security details compromise judges. At some point, your theory collapses into absurdity.

Finally, separation of powers was never intended to mean hostility between the branches of government. It means checks and balances, not economic isolation.

As the proverb says:

"A man who fears rain should not suspect every cloud of conspiracy."

Institutional integrity is important.

But institutional paranoia is not constitutionalism.

And no, disagreeing with you is not gaslighting.

It is simply disagreeing with you.

Oga - Your attempt to play smart by saying "the NJC is not a construction company" is a malaria infested argument. Im sure you went to school and I’m sure you know that nobody said the NJC should buy cement and lay blocks. You literally listed their function yourself:
control and disbursement of judiciary funds."

If Tinubu and Wike wanted a truly independent judiciary, those multi-billion naira housing funds would be moved directly into the judiciary's autonomous budget. The head of the Court of Appeal would award the contracts and manage the procurement.

Instead, the Executive (via Wike and the FCTA) chooses to hold the cash, award the contracts, build the luxury estates, and physically hand over the keys as discretionary gifts to the judges.

You keep hiding behind the word "welfare" to justify a compromised institutional structure. It’s not welfare. Judges are very well paid! And a lot of them hold jobs for a very long time in a Nigeria where it’s hard to get jobs so they have job security. So don’t bring up that welfare nonsense.

When a frequent litigant (the Executive) directly controls and gifts luxury properties to the people meant to judge them, it is a conflict of interest, full stop. Quit making excuses for the government that put Nigeria in bad shape and face the constitutional reality.

Legislators don’t get free mansions as soon as they become senators. Ministers don’t get free mansions as soon as they become ministers. Only the president gets to live in Aso rock with his team but it’s still not a free house with CofO to the president. So only these judges get free mansion with clear CofO just for being a judge in a court of law where the federal government frequently goes to. Shameful.

CharlesCNG:
I am sorry but you are confidently wrong.

The NJC is not a construction company. It does not build judges’ houses, procure official quarters, award housing estates or manufacture vehicles.

The NJC’s core constitutional functions are appointment recommendations, discipline, removal processes, control and disbursement of judiciary funds. It is also involved in pensions/gratuities for retired federal judicial officers. Its powers are set out under Paragraph 21 of Part I of the Third Schedule to the 1999 Constitution.

So saying “let them get houses through NJC” sounds neat, but it misunderstands how government infrastructure works.

Also, comparing official judicial residences to “frequent litigants buying judges gifts” is a false equivalence. A litigant secretly buying a judge a car is bribery. Government providing institutional accommodation tied to judicial office is welfare.

One is private inducement.

The other is public institutional provision.

If you cannot distinguish between the two, then the problem is not the house; it is the reasoning.

Judges should not collect gifts from litigants. Agreed.

But judges should also not be left economically vulnerable in the name of fake purity.

Judicial independence is protected by transparent welfare, not by poverty.

And no one is saying the 3 co equal branches of government need to be hostile to each other. What Nigerians are saying is making one branch subservient or subordinate to the executive branch should never happen.

CharlesCNG:
My brother, please stop abusing the word "gaslighting." Disagreeing with you is not gaslighting. The word has become the intellectual equivalent of a smoke bomb: throw it when the arguments become inconvenient.

Now to your points.

First, separation of powers does not mean separation of funding. If it did, the judiciary would collect taxes, issue bonds and generate revenue independently. That is not how constitutional democracies work. The three arms are separate in function, not in the source of public finance.

Second, you say the judiciary should "build or buy whatever they need themselves." With what? The judiciary does not print money. It receives appropriations from the same public treasury that funds the Executive and Legislature.

Third, your argument about bugged houses and secret cameras is astonishing. We have now left constitutional law and entered the realm of spy movies. By that logic, judges should not use official cars, official phones or official offices because microphones might be hidden there too.

Fourth, if the houses are tied to office and acquired through lawful public processes, they are institutional provisions, not personal gifts from Bola Tinubu or Nyesom Wike. The President does not withdraw money from his personal account to buy judges mansions.

Fifth, your argument proves too much. If official residences compromise judges, then salaries compromise judges. Pensions compromise judges. Security details compromise judges. At some point, your theory collapses into absurdity.

Finally, separation of powers was never intended to mean hostility between the branches of government. It means checks and balances, not economic isolation.

As the proverb says:

"A man who fears rain should not suspect every cloud of conspiracy."

Institutional integrity is important.

But institutional paranoia is not constitutionalism.

And no, disagreeing with you is not gaslighting.

It is simply disagreeing with you.

The constitution as amended in 1999 set up NJCs funding precisely so the Judiciary wouldn't have to go to beg the President or his ministers for money, cars, or buildings or luxury houses.

NJC is directly funded by the federation to manage all capital and recurrent expenditures for federal courts, the money to build judicial housing already belongs to the Judiciary. By having the executive branch step in, withhold those infrastructure funds from the judiciary's direct control, and use the FCT Ministry to build and hand out personal CofO luxury mansions, they are completely hijacking a process that should be handled independently through the NJC's statutory allocation. It is a deliberate choice calculated to foster personal dependence on the Executive branch instead of upholding institutional autonomy.

Does Akpabio ask minister Wike for free duplex? Have other ministers received free duplex? Are they also not part of the government? People should really stop defending this nonsense

You wrote all this heavy oyibo/queens English just to completely dodge the most critical fact of this entire conversation.
1. The Private CofO nonsense: You keep trying to sound smart by comparing these mansions to standard salaries, pensions, or office desks. Judges earn salaries…they do not earn free mansions from the executive branch. They need office desks to work…they do not need free mansions to work. Why do they deserve salary annnd free mansion?

That's a massive false equivalence. There’s news online that Wike unabashedly hands over the CofO of the houses to the judges on national tv. So these luxury potentially bugged mansions are issued directly in the personal names of these individual judges for permanent private ownership.

A judge's salary doesn't buy them a lifetime luxury estate in Abuja. Comparing a massive, real estate asset transfer to standard statutory welfare is the real absurdity here. The National Assembly (representing the people) appropriates funds to all 3 branches of government (national assembly, executive, judiciary) but the executive branch turns around to use its own allocation to build mansions for judiciary. How does that make sense? Could it be that they are doing it because they frequently want favorable treatment from that said arm of government?

2. Autonomous Procurement: Nobody said the judiciary should collect taxes or print money. The public treasury funds the entire government, but the Executive doesn't physically award contracts, construct, and hand out private houses to legislators, do they? The National Assembly gets its statutory allocation and handles its own internal procurement.

CharlesCNG:
My brother, please stop abusing the word "gaslighting." Disagreeing with you is not gaslighting. The word has become the intellectual equivalent of a smoke bomb: throw it when the arguments become inconvenient.

Now to your points.

First, separation of powers does not mean separation of funding. If it did, the judiciary would collect taxes, issue bonds and generate revenue independently. That is not how constitutional democracies work. The three arms are separate in function, not in the source of public finance.

Second, you say the judiciary should "build or buy whatever they need themselves." With what? The judiciary does not print money. It receives appropriations from the same public treasury that funds the Executive and Legislature.

Third, your argument about bugged houses and secret cameras is astonishing. We have now left constitutional law and entered the realm of spy movies. By that logic, judges should not use official cars, official phones or official offices because microphones might be hidden there too.

Fourth, if the houses are tied to office and acquired through lawful public processes, they are institutional provisions, not personal gifts from Bola Tinubu or Nyesom Wike. The President does not withdraw money from his personal account to buy judges mansions.

Fifth, your argument proves too much. If official residences compromise judges, then salaries compromise judges. Pensions compromise judges. Security details compromise judges. At some point, your theory collapses into absurdity.

Finally, separation of powers was never intended to mean hostility between the branches of government. It means checks and balances, not economic isolation.

As the proverb says:

"A man who fears rain should not suspect every cloud of conspiracy."

Institutional integrity is important.

But institutional paranoia is not constitutionalism.

And no, disagreeing with you is not gaslighting.

It is simply disagreeing with you.

Even the Wike that’s using our tax money to do free giveaway to judges, does he get free land and mansion from the government?

CharlesCNG:
My brother, thank you for reading my "epistles." At least unlike some comments, they contain arguments.

Now to your points.

First, an official residence for judges is not "extravagance." By your logic, military barracks are extravagant. Legislative quarters are extravagant. Presidential villas are extravagant. In every serious country, certain offices come with institutional accommodation.

Second, you say judges are being rewarded "more than they deserve." According to who? A Court of Appeal judge handles election petitions, constitutional disputes and multi-billion-naira cases. You want such a person worrying about rent and landlords?

Third, if a judge's conscience can be bought by an official residence, then your problem is not with the house but with the judge. By the same logic, legislators and ministers should be incapable of scrutinizing the executive because they too enjoy official perks.

Fourth, your "what about doctors, soldiers, police and teachers?" argument is a classic case of false choice. Improving judges' welfare does not require worsening that of others. In fact, I support better welfare for doctors, soldiers, police and teachers too. One good policy is not invalidated because another group also deserves attention.

Finally, I find it amusing that you describe official quarters as "extravagant." Apparently, in your ideal democracy, judicial independence is best protected with leaking roofs and overdue rent notices.


A judiciary weakened by financial vulnerability is far more dangerous than one strengthened by institutional dignity.

And please, if my "epistles" do not hold water, kindly stop drinking from them. 😁

Tell yourself the truth, can you compare those Judges quarters to any military barracks in Nigeria?
You said you support better welfare for doctors and others, are they getting it?
And talking about legislators and ministers, are they scrutinizing the executive the way they should? Is it not yes sir to everything the executive throws at them.
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Take a case of the governors, are all of them not praising and standing on the mandate of the president, just bcus more money than usual is been thrown at them to buy their conscience.
My guy, Baba Ahmed is spot on with what he said and most Nigerians supports him

coleon:
I don't have time for your delusional response pls. If you can't see the plethora of useless inconsistent judgements being given with deregistration of parties, different courts contradicting themselves.

The joke is on you 🤡

How? I think the Judges should reject this gifts. And publicly come and and prove to Nigerians that their independence has not been compromised.

Parachoko:
The joke is on you 🤡

CharlesCNG:
My brother, thank you for reading my "epistles." At least unlike some comments, they contain arguments.

Now to your points.

First, an official residence for judges is not "extravagance." By your logic, military barracks are extravagant. Legislative quarters are extravagant. Presidential villas are extravagant. In every serious country, certain offices come with institutional accommodation.

Second, you say judges are being rewarded "more than they deserve." According to who? A Court of Appeal judge handles election petitions, constitutional disputes and multi-billion-naira cases. You want such a person worrying about rent and landlords?

Third, if a judge's conscience can be bought by an official residence, then your problem is not with the house but with the judge. By the same logic, legislators and ministers should be incapable of scrutinizing the executive because they too enjoy official perks.

Fourth, your "what about doctors, soldiers, police and teachers?" argument is a classic case of false choice. Improving judges' welfare does not require worsening that of others. In fact, I support better welfare for doctors, soldiers, police and teachers too. One good policy is not invalidated because another group also deserves attention.

Finally, I find it amusing that you describe official quarters as "extravagant." Apparently, in your ideal democracy, judicial independence is best protected with leaking roofs and overdue rent notices.


A judiciary weakened by financial vulnerability is far more dangerous than one strengthened by institutional dignity.

And please, if my "epistles" do not hold water, kindly stop drinking from them. 😁

Were the Judges living on trees or hanging in the air before Wike (a frequent litigant) bribed them with houses and cars?

Why are you trying to justify this moral and unethical anomalies with fake objectivity?

swaggerific:
Exactly my question. If they care so much for the welfare of Nigerians they should be building these houses for other sectors too not just judiciary! And the crazy thing is that the judiciary is supposed to be independent! Wow this is absurd. I can’t believe people are defending this obvious/transparent gift to the judiciary. How will the judiciary reward the government for this house they received from the FG? What leverage does the judiciary have that they could pull to benefit any group?

We all know this houses are "bribes" in disguise. And the resultant effect can be seen in the likes of Lifu "rushing" to force INEC to deregister opposition political parties, even when there was an Appeal Court order against such verdict. And sadly, many more of such are coming, unless... 😎

It’s so obvious! And you have people on nairaland unabashedly defending this impunity. God will reward everyone based on their deeds.

Breaker001:
We all know this houses are "bribes" in disguise. And the resultant effect can be seen in the likes of Lifu "rushing" to force INEC to deregister opposition political parties, even when there was an Appeal Court order against such verdict. And sadly, many more of such are coming, unless... 😎

CharlesCNG:
Calling judges’ official accommodation a “bribe” is cheap sensationalism.

First, welfare is not bribery. Proper housing for judicial officers is part of strengthening institutions. A judge handling multi-billion-naira disputes should not be living in uncertainty or begging landlords.

Second, judicial independence is not protected by poverty. A poorly housed, poorly paid and economically vulnerable judge is easier to compromise. Welfare is actually an anti-corruption tool.

Third, these are not private gifts secretly handed to judges in envelopes. They are official government-provided residences tied to office and institutional welfare. That distinction matters.

Fourth, if improving judges’ welfare is now bribery, then salaries, official cars, security, medical care and retirement benefits must also be called bribes. That is absurd.

Fifth, perception matters, yes. But perception cannot replace logic. The solution is transparency, not hysteria.

Baba-Ahmed’s argument sounds clever, but it collapses under scrutiny. You cannot demand an independent judiciary while opposing the material conditions that make independence possible.

Judges should be well paid, well housed and well protected — not because they are above citizens, but because justice itself must be insulated from desperation, intimidation and inducement.

Poverty is not judicial reform.

A vulnerable judge is a dangerous judge.

Story story story

You are the one trying to be clever by half and not Baba Ahmed

Top legal luminaries have condemned it and insisted that such welfare should be backed by the NJC thru a method designed by them

It's a bribe ..you know that but just pretending to be asleep

You know who also know that? The 10 year old child in your street

sucess001:
Like you ba?


https://njc.gov.ng/index.php/profile-of-NJC

Bros u no know anything.