₦airaland Forum

Emmabyte:
In a very simple words obi said he will remove the subsidy in an organized manner , and that is what you and your government don't understand, my friend leadership is not just all about grab it and run with it

explain what he meant by that organized manner n how he will get money to supplement the organized manner?

Is organized manner same thing as partial removal?

Lol, explain indeed. Just listen to your self

Counterigbolies:
explain what he meant by that organized manner n how he will get money to supplement the organized manner?

Is organized manner same thing as partial removal?

When I hear dis man speaks, i see his shallow depth of insights. Having a meeting with who? Labour unions or those enjoying oil subsidy. Meeting with them shows that you are weak and you will strongly be opposed after the meeting. Jonathan met with labour unions and trade union Congress and he was opposed in strong terms. Removing it outrightly was the best decision, Tinubu did.

Counterigbolies:
which organized manner?

Buhari paid till handover n where was tinubu suppose to see money to pay for subsidy immediately he became president?

Which organisation will borrow a new government money?

Where did he see the money he handed to governors after removal?

If your next comment is that he can't withhold a governor's allocations, then you're confirming that he failed to plan. He could've called all governors and stakeholders to decide how much of the allocation will be dedicated to providing cushioning effects directly to the citizens.

Trying to defend Tinubu is embarrasing, but we don't expect more, his supporters no get shame. No class.

givedemwotowoto:
Where did he see the money he handed to governors after removal?

If your next question is that he can't withhold governor's allocations, then you're confirming that he failed to plan. He could've called all governors and stakeholders to decide how much of the allocation will be dedicated to providing cushioning effects directly to the citizens.

Trying to defend Tinubu is embarrasing, but we don't expect more, his supporters no get shame. No class.

many of u started following politics in 2023

Can a governor withhold governor's allocation?

Hope u remember amaechi took Jonathan to court n won over this same issue?


U can see what I posted, savings from subsidy removal and exchange rate reforms earned him money given to governors

Counterigbolies:
The question any sane person should ask obi n his bunch of empty followers, where will obi get money to pay subsidy for first few months or how will he do it when the money wasn't even budgeted for?

Like seriously it's obvious obi doesn't even understand everything he's saying, he's just saying what emotional people wants to hear n not reality

what of our natural resources and our tax money and the company vats I want to understand something please

Counterigbolies:
Have u ever bothered to ask your governor's if their monthly allocation increased?


Check each state allocation n it has more than tripled n u still blaming tinubu?


So u expect tinubu to b d one to come n do state projects for governor's?the problem with many Nigerians is that we don't read and we ain't ready to read

Ordinary google search would have enlighten u more

like what are you really benefiting in this tinubu's government?

Counterigbolies:
many of u started following politics in 2023

Can a governor withhold governor's allocation?

Hope u remember amaechi took Jonathan to court n won over this same issue?


U can see what I posted, savings from subsidy removal and exchange rate reforms earned him money given to governors

The exact question I answered preemptively, you asked again.

Foolish man.

You think those marketers will not hoard their inventory that is being subsidized and paid for by the FG when you begin to hint on removal of subsidy ?

You will continue the subsidy and there will be scarcity.

And how about the marketers diverting the subsidized fuel to neighbouring countries ?

The same thing applies to FX .

If you slowly begin to devalue the naira , wont that send signals to the market that the naira is crashing due to the CBN slowly devaluing it?

And how do you even get to know the true value of the naira if it is not subject to market forces ?

Right now, the naira value is simply determined by market forces and is not arbitrarily set by the CBN as was the case since 1970.

The only way to end both subsidy on fuel was to immediately announce on it and remove it as Tinubu did.

Every other gimmick will only send signals to the market that both subsidy on fuel and devaluation of the naira was inevitable which will lead to massive dumping of the naira and fuel hoarding by markertes.

bigwig071:
what of our natural resources and our tax money and the company vats I want to understand something please

will he start digging natural resources in the first month?

Will he increase tax in d first month of getting to office?

Hope u know vat means value added tax, can all these b increased within a month?

Forget that it's tinubu that is d president, if it were to b obi will obi do all these within just one month?

bigwig071:
like what are you really benefiting in this tinubu's government?

wait first

Answer my questions first n I will list 10 reasons tinubu government is better but answer those questions first?

Will tinubu force governor's to embark on projects?

givedemwotowoto:
The exact question I answered preemptively, you asked again.

guy u have never answered the question, leave preemptive alone

Can a president withhold governor's allocation?

Yes or no


N what does the constitution say about it?


In case u want to argue blindly

DomPerignon:
Foolish man.

You think those marketers will not hoard their inventory that is being subsidized and paid for by the FG when you begin to hint on removal of subsidy ?

You will continue the subsidy and there will be scarcity.

And how about the marketers diverting the subsidized fuel to neighbouring countries ?

The same thing applies to FX .

If you slowly begin to devalue the naira , wont that send signals to the market that the naira is crashing due to the CBN slowly devaluing it?

And how do you even get to know the true value of the naira if it is not subject to market forces ?

Right now, the naira value is simply determined by market forces and is not arbitrarily set by the CBN as was the case since 1970.

The only way to end both subsidy on fuel was to immediately announce on it and remove it as Tinubu did.

Every other gimmick will only send signals to the market that both subsidy on fuel and devaluation of the naira was inevitable which will lead to massive dumping of the naira and fuel hoarding by markertes.

givedemwotowoto, bigwig071

Please answer these questions?

How do u remove subsidy slowly without sending d wrong signal to hoarders thereby creating artificial scarcity?

no

LordBiden:
Which means Buhari was responsible for removing subsidy and not tinubu.

But where I fault tinubu is that he doesn't know how to cut cost of running government,we can't feel the benefits of subsidy removal.

You are very correct. Tinubu didn't manage the subsidy gains. he should have not increase taxes for now and since the subsidy removal was already having a negative effect on cost of goods and services for a while. look at passport fees and others.

Peter Obi is just playing to the gallery.

From his speech these past few days.

He ain't gonna do anything different.

He is not that no nonsense leader we need.

Ya, he may try in the aspect of the economy by cutting out wastages...

But security won't be different under his rule.

The truth is... 2012, under Jonathan was the best and most convenient time period to remove this subsidy.

If Jonathan had been supported by everyone, including the opposition, we would be way past the necessary curve by now.

What Tinubu did along with Buhari, Soyinka, and others will never be forgiven in the history of this nation's economy.

So, Mr. Obi, leave this talk... It's always easier said than done.

There is no easy way to remove subsidy now... None at all.

this one just day dreaming, he should go and meet his daddy serike

givedemwotowoto:
Where did he see the money he handed to governors after removal?

If your next comment is that he can't withhold a governor's allocations, then you're confirming that he failed to plan. He could've called all governors and stakeholders to decide how much of the allocation will be dedicated to providing cushioning effects directly to the citizens.

Trying to defend Tinubu is embarrasing, but we don't expect more, his supporters no get shame. No class.

Yu lack depth on what our Federation entails. Federating states are autonomous entity and not appendage to the FG, FG doesn't have the constitutional right to discuss how state allocation should be spent.

Your proposition is dead on arrival because no governor will allow such

LordBiden:
Obi never said he would bring back subsidy, infact subsidy removal was his original idea which tinubu copied.
Obi plans is to cut down cost of running government and then channel the benefits of the removal properly.

Obi has absolutely nothing in his head to copy, Tinubu released his manifesto long before Obi. Your 3rd position is guaranteed again in 2027, easy with the lies

He'd do exactly.
He was among those singing; "remove fuel subsidy"

chicfarmer:
Correct 💯
No be to just remove am fiam without having any plans on how to soften the impact on citizens.

Besides, what have they done with the savings so far?

Ask your lunatic candidate to tell.us the organized.manner. moreover do u kno2.hoe many times obi has fliflop on subsidy. Pathetic Liar

Ask your lunatic Obi candidate to tell.us the organized.manner. moreover do u know how many times obi has fliflop on subsidy. Pathetic Liar

Oga stop talking too much

PO is clearly better than that Bulaban druggie.

chicfarmer:
Did he even look at the books?
You just dey for field where dem swear you in talk say you don remove subsidy. Wetin you know wey you dey remove?

Okay, the subsidy savings wetin you take am do? You just dey share am out to irresponsible governors while you're burdening the people with more loans. Dem take loan swear for una?

Tinubu is not like Peter Obi that said he doesn't know the problem of the country until he gets there. Tinubu knows the problem and hit the ground running on day one.

chicfarmer:
Correct 💯
No be to just remove am fiam without having any plans on how to soften the impact on citizens.

Besides, what have they done with the savings so far?

He would have continued paying the minute he continued from the month Buhari stopped and it would have been difficult because there was no budget for it.

Every candidates said lots of things from the outside but when they get in, they see that it wasn’t as easy as they said.

As always, talk remains cheap.

chicfarmer:
Did he even look at the books?
You just dey for field where dem swear you in talk say you don remove subsidy. Wetin you know wey you dey remove?

Okay, the subsidy savings wetin you take am do? You just dey share am out to irresponsible governors while you're burdening the people with more loans. Dem take loan swear for una?

Hypocrisy go wound you . No be the same Peter Obi said Subsidy will never last a day if he win election, which book did he looked at before making such vow ?

This guy is just too dull

frankson1:
He would have continued paying the minute he continued from the month Buhari stopped and it would have been difficult because there was no budget for it.

Every candidates said lots of things from the outside but when they get in, they see that it wasn’t as easy as they said.

As always, talk remains cheap.

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Tinubu said it, and he did it in his first 30 minutes in office right at his inauguration field. General Abacha couldn’t do it, General Abdulsalami Abubakar couldn’t do it, General Olusegun Obasanjo couldn’t do it, General Muhammadu Buhari couldn’t do it, Musa Yar’Adua foolishly increased the subsidy to please the gullible masses, Goodluck Jonathan doesn’t have the spin. Emilokan JAGABAN did it without blinking. Now we know who is the real General. Up till today, the fuel subsidy thieves are still sponsoring bandits and criminals, but JAGABAN will never blink nor bend

Counterigbolies:
obi that doesn't even know the meaning of government running cost

People like obi just talk for talking sake, they really don't understand how things works


This subsidy removal by bit line is highly annoying for someone as exposed as obi cos it's annoying.

Where will a new government get money to pay subsidy?

How can a new government cut down running cost within few days?

Obi must think running Nigeria is like arranging a room by a bachelor where he can do anything n nobody will query him

In a bid to push a narrative, you are exposing your mental limitations.

How do you claim tunubu has no where to source money for subsidy and still point that he immediately increased the allocation to governors. Where did the increment to governors appear from?

You keep commenting and responding to yourself on the front page, thinking everyone's suffering from deficiency of common sense like most you 30k crews do.

Boy, go learn a trade. This life you chose is not doing you any good.

No peace!

Counterigbolies:
Have u ever bothered to ask your governor's if their monthly allocation increased?


Check each state allocation n it has more than tripled n u still blaming tinubu?


So u expect tinubu to b d one to come n do state projects for governor's?the problem with many Nigerians is that we don't read and we ain't ready to read

Ordinary google search would have enlighten u more

The problem is not about the state government allocation increasing or decreasing. The problem is that people's salaries are still how it was and fiam, they could no more afford to eat twice in a day with it again.