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nairalanda1:
Yeah, as much as I hate to say this, part of the way out of this crisis would involve rehabilitation.

Back in the 1990's Sierra Leone and LIberia had brutal civil war. The war was perpetrated by some of the most brutal people ever like Foday Sankoh and several others. Many of these guys not only killed, they cut off people's limbs, raped, and so forth

At the end of the war, many of them were rehabilitated. And even given money.

Yes, the big dogs were to a large extent jailed but some got away.

I know that people are going to abuse me, and call me names, but the alternative is

1. We shoot most of them, which is going to spark Boko Haram 3.0

2. We jail them in prisions that are not able to cope with the population.

I HATE WHAT I AM SAYING RIGHT NOW.

But that's how the world is. A lot of brutal war criminals have gotten away because quite simply there is no where we can kill every evil person in the world.

Keep in mind that Boko also pressgangs people into their armies. Many don't join because they want to join, they join because they have no effing choice.

I wisn this is not so. If it was up to me, I would send every boko guy to the great beyond. But we are not dealing with fantasies here


Yes, we have to face cold effing reality.

The fact that you're comparing a civil war with banditry and terrorism shows you deserve every insult you get.

Sagay can now find his voice, he was silent during bubu tenure

Before knko??! Only a dullard and their sponsors will accept that!! The truth of the matter be say they want more terrorists to come and cause havoc so that elections go dey somehow

Sagay should keep his mouth shut and hold his peace forever.

He was a staunch buharist who lost brain cells in 2015..

He should be ashamed of himself..

omenka:
What does Sagey know when Obi has said that's the best course of action to take against the killers, and his supporters couldn't agree more.

One of his ardent supporters even went as far as saying aggressively countering the activities of the murderers would amount to taking food out of peoples mouths, and that to become the president, one has to accommodate and pamper terrorists:



This, ladies and gentlemen, if the character of Gringori and his supporters.

May Obi NEVER happen to Nigeria.

How far about Tinubu that is already happening to us??
No wonder I heard half of your population are residing in IDP camp

People of the middle belt and south should never trust the nigerian security system again.
Infiltration of the country by terrorist is what the govt is promoting.

Open your eyes.

nairalanda1:
Yeah, as much as I hate to say this, part of the way out of this crisis would involve rehabilitation.

Back in the 1990's Sierra Leone and LIberia had brutal civil war. The war was perpetrated by some of the most brutal people ever like Foday Sankoh and several others. Many of these guys not only killed, they cut off people's limbs, raped, and so forth

At the end of the war, many of them were rehabilitated. And even given money.

Yes, the big dogs were to a large extent jailed but some got away.

I know that people are going to abuse me, and call me names, but the alternative is

1. We shoot most of them, which is going to spark Boko Haram 3.0

2. We jail them in prisions that are not able to cope with the population.

I HATE WHAT I AM SAYING RIGHT NOW.

But that's how the world is. A lot of brutal war criminals have gotten away because quite simply there is no where we can kill every evil person in the world.

Keep in mind that Boko also pressgangs people into their armies. Many don't join because they want to join, they join because they have no effing choice.

I wisn this is not so. If it was up to me, I would send every boko guy to the great beyond. But we are not dealing with fantasies here


Yes, we have to face cold effing reality.

I’m actually from Sierra Leone. All what you said happened because the rebels decided to sit at a table with the government and have a truce conversation. The leadership of the rebels was not fragmented. They had a central governance system that was approachable.
The govt didn’t play politics with the crisis by papering the rebels. It went full force on the rebels with all the support required including the use of ECOMOG forces and these weakened the rebels leaving them with no choice but to come to the negotiation table.
The govt did not outrightly pampered the rebels by giving them amnesty or rehabilitating them indiscriminately. Their rehabilitation didn’t come during the active war. It only came after they voluntarily surrendered and gave up fighting the war. They weren’t just integrated just like that after their disarmament and rehabilitation. They had to face their victims in a face-to-face encounter and their victims decided to whole-heartedly forgive them before they were then integrated into various communities. That was the job of the TRC you mentioned. The perpetrators were arrested and tried and some of them are running life sentences. This was the role of the special court in Freetown and the International Criminal court in the Haque.

The issue with what is happening in Nigeria is that the terrorists groups are too fragmented and it will be difficult to get a peace deal in such situation. The government will only be negotiating from a position of weakness at this point.
The govt is also giving amnesty to terrorists with religious extremism mindsets now mixed with the hunger to kidnap for ransom when the crisis is still very active without any form of accountability from these benefliciaries and at the expense of their victims.
Also, there are many foreign interests especially from the Middle East funding the crisis. There is also a component of greed through illicit mining fueling it.
So for now, the govt should first try to decimate these miscreants to the lowest as possible and watch them come out to ask for peace.

AMKAG66:
I’m actually from Sierra Leone. All what you said happened because the rebels decided to sit at a table with the government and have a truce conversation. The leadership of the rebels was not fragmented. They had a central governance system that was approachable.
The govt didn’t play politics with the crisis by papering the rebels. It went full force on the rebels with all the support required including the use of ECOMOG forces and these weakened the rebels leaving them with no choice but to come to the negotiation table.
The govt did not outrightly pampered the rebels by giving them amnesty or rehabilitating them indiscriminately. Their rehabilitation didn’t come during the active war. It only came after they voluntarily surrendered and gave up fighting the war. They weren’t just integrated just like that after their disarmament and rehabilitation. They had to face their victims in a face-to-face encounter and their victims decided to whole-heartedly forgive them before they were then integrated into various communities. That was the job of the TRC you mentioned. The perpetrators were arrested and tried and some of them are running life sentences. This was the role of the special court in Freetown and the International Criminal court in the Haque.

The issue with what is happening in Nigeria is that the terrorists groups are too fragmented and it will be difficult to get a peace deal in such situation. The government will only be negotiating from a position of weakness at this point.
The govt is also giving amnesty to terrorists with religious extremism mindsets now mixed with the hunger to kidnap for ransom when the crisis is still very active without any form of accountability from these benefliciaries and at the expense of their victims.
Also, there are many foreign interests especially from the Middle East funding the crisis. There is also a component of greed through illicit mining fueling it.
So for now, the govt should first try to decimate these miscreants to the lowest as possible and watch them come out to ask for peace.

At the end of the day, we can;t afford another repeat of boko haram...hence we got to use a combination of amnesty, and dealing with the resistant ones.

Also, sitting down with government does not mean sierra leone rebels violence was somehow better than nigerian boko violence.

Like I said, I don't like saying what I said, but the world's not black and white.

erad:
The fact that you're comparing a civil war with banditry and terrorism shows you deserve every insult you get.

So, atrocities in civil war are better and good, while atrocities in banditry and terorism are somehow bad, because they are not civil war?

So, when a guy rapes women in civil war, it's all good, he can get rehab, because he is better than the guy who does it in the name of allah or something?

Thanks for educating me.

geoworldedu:
So it means that the armed forces of a nation is not capable of fighting against a set of people who are hellbent on making the country unbearable for the citizens. That's a big shame.

Yes, I don't think I ever would disagree with that, son.

nairalanda1:
Yes, I don't think I ever would disagree with that, son.

You thought you're speaking with Heung Son Min Bro wake up, you're not in South Korea

geoworldedu:
You thought you're speaking with Heung Son Min Bro wake up, you're not in South Korea

Yeah, keep your hat on, daughter.

nairalanda1:
Yeah, keep your hat on, daughter.

Poo, you gat no monopoly.

geoworldedu:
Poo, you gat no monopoly.

It's all right, grandmother.

nairalanda1:
It's all right, grandmother.

okay grand poo poo

nairalanda1:
So, atrocities in civil war are better and good, while atrocities in banditry and terorism are somehow bad, because they are not civil war?

So, when a guy rapes women in civil war, it's all good, he can get rehab, because he is better than the guy who does it in the name of allah or something?

Thanks for educating me.

I'm not educating you, I'm pointing out your stupidity.

erad:
I'm not educating you, I'm pointing out your stupidity.

Ah, the abuse starts.

Thanks. IN your mind one atrocity is less worse than the other, because ...

Grow up, son.