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Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by olola4(m): 1:52pm On Jun 21
The Nigerian power sector would soon be like the water sector, where everyone is in charge of their own electricity with the popularity of solar inverters.

Nigerians are not expecting any miracle in the power sector anymore, and unfortunately it would lead to more problems for the GENCOs in the area of revenue generation as fewer people are paying for electricity while the majority are opting for solar inverters.
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by Originalsly: 1:53pm On Jun 21
My bit is that provision of electricity should be local.... owned and operated by the private sector .. but regulated by the State. As in open bid to provide electricity for Lagos ... these are the requirements ... these are the penalties for disruptions.. etc. The bid goes up.. the winner gets the contract ... the price per KW agreed by the State and entity. Any price increase has to approved by the State. Laws governing theft of electricity... hefty fines etc.. will make everybody step in line. The country is too vast... too insecure to have a national network
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by Nefort: 1:54pm On Jun 21
Omi24:
As for me and my family we'll be managing our solar power till when Nigeria decides to get it right.

No doubt power is expensive we know and I believe people pay according to their consumption using prepaid meters. Make the power available, fix your tariff and watch if people will not pay and use it judiciously
Can it comfortably power ACs and freezers?
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by poiZon: 1:54pm On Jun 21
1stly Nigerians don't need free power.
Nobody hit the streets protesting n demanding free electricity.
2. Before buhari Left, be signed new electric bill into law where states can generate, transmit n distribute power.
That law is ineffective today across the country, a serious country with intelligent leaders would have worked towards seeing that law becomes reality. Instead some states prefer spending monies on mass wedding, feeding of citizens after fasting, other numerous frivolity that zap funds out of state purse. Monies that supposed to be utilized for serious n vital projects like electric Generation.
R u aware the previous nnpc board looted 210 trillion naira which they can't account for it, it is in their audited edition.
210 trillion can kick start the liberation of states depending on TCN from transmitting power to their discos.
We have 36 states, 6 or 7 already have functional power plants, invest 2Trillion naira each to the remaining 29 states as loans on 0 percent interest, in 5yrs we will be self sufficient in power generation.
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by nairalanda1(op): 1:59pm On Jun 21
LordReed:
Bro let's not sugar coat anything, there are powerful cabals invested in keeping things a certain way in this country because they are profiting heavily from the status quo. It's not a conspiracy theory, it's the reality. And it will take a strong-willed set of leaders to break this mind set or else no matter what plans are laid they'll never amount to anything.
Well, the phone and internet sector had the same issues as our electricity now, until companies were allowed to charge cost reflective tarrifs.

NO one is going to invest in a sector where over 80% of consumers are not paying for the power they consume at a cost reflective level. You won't see return on investment. And you will pull out.

That's why Glo is working, and indigenous discos are suffering.

And again, see what Prof Nnaji said. Has nothing to do with cabals.

And the West would even want us to have light 24/7. Because it would make Nigeria another place to outsource their manufacturing to, ditto China and Japan. Keeping costs of making things down.

Nothing like cabals...if there was cabals, why would they let us have working telecom, now petroleum, and not light?
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by Mrexcell(m): 1:59pm On Jun 21
I don't believe that same nigerians that spend heavily to fuel their gen sets daily and also install solar systems in their homes and places of work can't afford high electric tariffs just make the power available first to ordinary nigerians let's see if this ur theory is actually true.
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by chidiokay: 2:00pm On Jun 21
helinues:
I already come up with a solution but not mature yet for online discussion.

Acting is better than mouth running
whst do mean you come up with solutions, the solution templates are long in market naw.

we are a population of over200m people, our national power capacity is below 5MW and in the generation mechanism we have more obsolete that modern mechanism in place

the next is our transmitting network and transformers ... even if their is power generated in excess they can't transmit it for long with packing off

these are the core problem, Fix them and light will be stable
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by SonOfWords(m): 2:01pm On Jun 21
Nairalanda1, e no go better for you!
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by valentineuwakwe(m): 2:01pm On Jun 21
After the Siemens electricity contract sign during the COVID-19 era of 2020, we are yet to have improved power or megawatts above 10000watts......

This country tire me oo
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by chidiokay: 2:01pm On Jun 21
helinues:
I already come up with a solution but not mature yet for online discussion.

Acting is better than mouth running
whst do mean you come up with solutions, the solution templates are long in market naw.

we are a population of over200m people, our national power capacity is below 5MW and in the generation mechanism we have more obsolete that modern mechanism in place

the next is our transmitting network and transformers ... even if their is power generated in excess they can't transmit it for long with packing off

these are the core problem, Fix them and light will be stable
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by helinues: 2:03pm On Jun 21
chidiokay:
whst do mean you come up with solutions, the solution templates are long in market naw.

we are a population of over200m people, our national power capacity is below 5MW and in the generation mechanism we have more obsolete that modern mechanism in place

the next is our transmitting network and transformers ... even if their is power generated in excess they can't transmit it for long with packing off

these are the core problem, Fix them and light will be stable
Express your solutions independently without hiding under my comments.

Thank you
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by nairalanda1(op): 2:04pm On Jun 21
poiZon:
1stly Nigerians don't need free power.
Nobody hit the streets protesting n demanding free electricity.
Well, from the way over 60% of people on meters bypass electricity, and most of them are not even on Band A, I think otherwise
2. Before buhari Left, be signed new electric bill into law where states can generate, transmit n distribute power.
That law is ineffective today across the country, a serious country with intelligent leaders would have worked towards seeing that law becomes reality. Instead some states prefer spending monies on mass wedding, feeding of citizens after fasting, other numerous frivolity that zap funds out of state purse. Monies that supposed to be utilized for serious n vital projects like electric Generation.
States can't generate electricity profitably, unless they charged everyone about N210 or above per kwh. Also, they can't attract investors because government rules keep prices artifically low for the majority.

And then see my above point.

Result....problems.

TInubu was running away from reality with that law.
R u aware the previous nnpc board looted 210 trillion naira which they can't account for it, it is in their audited edition.
210 trillion can kick start the liberation of states depending on TCN from transmitting power to their discos.
We have 36 states, 6 or 7 already have functional power plants, invest 2Trillion naira each to the remaining 29 states as loans on 0 percent interest, in 5yrs we will be self sufficient in power generation.
[/quote]1.It takes time to recover lost money. See how the recovery of abacha loot has gone about. Meanwhile, are we to remain in darkness until we see the 210 trillion

2. We need something like 10 trilloon-14 trillion naira annually to fix electricity to a level where it would keep the lights on for those connected to the grid.

2 trillion no dey do shishi.

3. Cost reflective tarrifs, or sane investors no go drop money.

4. It's effing painful, but it is what it is. There is a reason why we have working GSM and why our markets and provision stores are full to the brim with product. No one is forcing them to sell below profitable price.
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by nairalanda1(op): 2:05pm On Jun 21
valentineuwakwe:
After the Siemens electricity contract sign during the COVID-19 era of 2020, we are yet to have improved power or megawatts above 10000watts......

This country tire me oo
Siemens was meant to improve transmission, not generation.
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by ceejay80s(m): 2:05pm On Jun 21
imagine news from leadership news paper,
a press that put up on their Facebook page that a hr manager of a company stole a car and the news is not on their website, it was removed, and U call leadership newspaper credible?
bunch of crackers ,
U expect Peter Obi to tell U how he's going to archive it so U will all steal his idea,
vote him first and if he doesn't deliver, we vote him out
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by gigabyte13: 2:06pm On Jun 21
Power generation in Nigeria is very very possible, we just have thieves and rogues at the helm of affairs.
Infact we have all it takes to generate 24hours power supply uninterrupted.
I lived in jebba, kwara state some years back, you will be shocked that , Nigeria can have uninterrupted power supply for a full week..
We used to off the fridge because of the freezing rate of the freezer.

Nigeria is so blessed with everything in this world but we have cursed leaders.
Once they attain power
They become cursed.
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by DeltaBachelor(m): 2:07pm On Jun 21
MR COST REFLECTIVE TARIFFS. That’s the only “English” they know. BoolShyte !
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by nairalanda1(op): 2:07pm On Jun 21
ceejay80s:
imagine news from leadership news paper,
a press that put up on their Facebook page that a hr manager of a company stole a car and the news is not on their website, it was removed, and U call leadership newspaper credible?
bunch of crackers
I have alternative sources that quoted Prof Nnaji.

Also, here is Prof saying the same thing in 2017, in the Guardian.
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by MrPresident1: 2:07pm On Jun 21
Op, everyone will pay for their crimes against the people, including you.

There is no escaping.
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by Image123(m): 2:08pm On Jun 21
bottlenecks are being removed and unbundled, and transmission, generation and distribution is now open to all. In few years, it'll be much better without anyone making silly promises of have faith in me like some divinity.
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by nairalanda1(op): 2:08pm On Jun 21
SonOfWords:
Nairalanda1, e no go better for you!
That all you got, George?

Muhammad Ali, 1974
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by Jakarta: 2:08pm On Jun 21
This op and his warped mentality. Who told you Nigerians are not ready to pay cost reflective tariffs for electricity? MTN once sold SIM cards in Nigeria for 30k+ and people bought them. But MTN invested heavily in infrastructure to make their services available in almost all nooks and crannies of Nigeria.

Electricity distribution companies wants to reap from where they did not sow. You want to collect cost reflective tariffs just like telecoms companies, but you want same customers to handle you responsibilities of providing meters, transformers, electric poles, and other infrastructural electric distribution materials by themselves no be juju be that?

Na customer dey fund or maintain network masts for MTN, Glo, and Airtel? Provide the infrastructure and people will be very much ready to pay for your services, because a cost reflective tariff of #209.50 per unit is still way cheaper, than fueling your generator.
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by MrPresident1: 2:08pm On Jun 21
nairalanda1:
So recently, Peter Obi made a comment that he was going to improve our power supply by 10000mw, which would take us up to 32000 mw...which should be enough for us to get light 24/7 (subject to the Siemens project working)...and the response was tinubu supporters making fun of Obi as a man without ideas, while Obi supporters praised their man as being wisdom incarnante.

Except that Obi did not tell us how he plans to do it.

Which essentially begs the question, how do we vote for a guy who promises us something, but does not tell us how to do it.

Which leads me back to Tinubu. IN 2023, tinubu said...if you vote me and I do not give you constant power supply, vote me out in 2027.

Naturally tinubu supporters were praising their man as being a tough minded leader, etc, etc....while Obi people are now calling in the receipts. Man has not done as promised so he should be kicked out.


Which leads me to my point.

Tinubu and obi never/have not told Nigerians how they intend to improve power supply.


The truth of the matter is, we have a plan, laid out by the experts, about power supply. A decent , strong plan....cost reflective tarrifs, ending power theft, and rolling out metering.

But neither tinubu nor obi, nor even atiku or any potential candidate would mention that because it does not win votes. (Sowore would probably announce a plan to give 24 hour light a day at N1 per kwh).


Nigerians , regardless of political party, like hearing populist language. If a leader came into office and started doing the things the experts have said we should do, he would be voted out. Or chased out. You will see the Fulani herdsmen marching with the Igbo farmer, the Yoruba trader marching with his Hausa counterpart, and there would be riots.


And the leader would be voted out.

That is why whoever takes office, won't be allowed to improve power because Nigerians think that electricity should be free of charge.

When in reality, it is not possible.

Electricity costs money. If you won;t pay for it in cost reflective tarrif, you will pay for it in generator and inverter monies. That is what Band A taught us.

And on that Band A, the idea of tinubu was not original. India has a similar system, present for decades, that commercial and industrial properties would pay a cost reflective tarrif and the profits would be used to pay for subsidising the poor farmers and rural people

And after doing that, has power supply in India improved? (No.).

Infact India is planning to make everyone pay cost reflective tarrfs in five years time.


SO, if it didn't work in India, how e go work in NIgeria?

The only way we can get free power is to take massive loans totalling nearly 2/3rd of our budgets for the next ten or more years...and while it may give us enough light, it would also put us in heavy debt for it.


In 2025, Prof Barth Nnaji, who is definetly not a Tinubu supporter put it well



SAUCE : LEADERSHIP NEWSPAPER


I have been saying the above for years, but people here abuse me, so I may as well quote the actual expert, who is a qualified engineer, a former ministar of power, and an owner of a GENCO.

And he is not the first or the last to state that this needs to be done. PwC have said it, several experts have been saying it, a BBC report said it, and so forth.

Yet, Nigerians and their candidates choose to believe the fiction of corruption or some evil Western zionist overmind does not want to give us light.

It is easier to believe conspiracy theory fiction

Like NIgerians, like candidates.


Good afternoon.

I expcet to be abused and to be told about other countries that somehow magically give free power(the macs won't add that those countries pay for it with heavy taxes, or heavy debt).
You will pay for your crimes against the humanity, against the people. Your inhumanity will find you out. You cannot escape punishment for your evil
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by poseidon12: 2:09pm On Jun 21
voortrekker966:
Truth is no black African leader can do better than the other. I'm not a Tinubu supporter but he is not doing anything different from his predecessors. Yaradua is praised for reducing the price of petrol during his time but the highest corruption in subsidy happened under him.

I agree with you that Peter Obi may not be able to change anything in Nigeria's power situation. Not because he will not be able to do it but because of the reasons you stated. South Africa is battling the same thing; black people feel electricity should be free.
I wonder why you Tinubu supporters are ashamed of admitting it publicly.
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by ceejay80s(m): 2:09pm On Jun 21
nairalanda1:
I have alternative sources that quoted Prof Nnaji.

Also, here is Prof saying the same thing in 2017, in the Guardian.
I trust guardian
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by DARLYNBOI: 2:09pm On Jun 21
benardtotti:
1. First let me address this popular propaganda that opposition have used to try and de-market Bola Tinubu about power.
Tinubu gave a caveat in that very video that they use for propaganda but it's either our education system has gone totally to zero or people just choose to be funny , at the end of that video he said " unless I come to you and give adequate reasons why I couldn't deliver "
Please see link to that clip below :
https://youtube.com/shorts/LPkRq5ooGKM?si=CqdsWHo5S0fClYKZ

2. I agree with all you have said about power but Nigerians dont want to pay what developed countries pay for electricity

3. Of all the candidates tinubu still gets my vote as he has shown courage to try new reforms that even though looked harsh have begun to bear fruit .
I expect you to quote the fruits especially on your number three points above ..
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by nairalanda1(op): 2:10pm On Jun 21
Mrexcell:
I don't believe that same nigerians that spend heavily to fuel their gen sets daily and also install solar systems in their homes and places of work can't afford high electric tariffs just make the power available first to ordinary nigerians let's see if this ur theory is actually true.
And that can only be possible if there is a cost reflective tarrif, because, it would bring investors running, like bees to sugar water.

Unless you want government to borrow half our current budget every year for the next several years...because that is what it takes to give us light 24/7, and only for the people on the grid, not for all Nigerians.
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by Image123(m): 2:10pm On Jun 21
gigabyte13:
Power generation in Nigeria is very very possible, we just have thieves and rogues at the helm of affairs.
Infact we have all it takes to generate 24hours power supply uninterrupted.
I lived in jebba, kwara state some years back, you will be shocked that , Nigeria can have uninterrupted power supply for a full week..
We used to off the fridge because of the freezing rate of the freezer.

Nigeria is so blessed with everything in this world but we have cursed leaders.
Once they attain power
They become cursed.
It's why you need to understand a bit of science. You're talking vibes.
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by Okechinwadike: 2:11pm On Jun 21
Give tinubu next 1000yrs Nigeria will even be worst, but i don't blame him i blame those urchins that sing his praises. You can't give what you don't have, tinubu is a superlative failure, fantastically good in failing
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by nairalanda1(op): 2:12pm On Jun 21
benardtotti:
1. First let me address this popular propaganda that opposition have used to try and de-market Bola Tinubu about power.
Tinubu gave a caveat in that very video that they use for propaganda but it's either our education system has gone totally to zero or people just choose to be funny , at the end of that video he said " unless I come to you and give adequate reasons why I couldn't deliver "
Please see link to that clip below :
https://youtube.com/shorts/LPkRq5ooGKM?si=CqdsWHo5S0fClYKZ

2. I agree with all you have said about power but Nigerians dont want to pay what developed countries pay for electricity

3. Of all the candidates tinubu still gets my vote as he has shown courage to try new reforms that even though looked harsh have begun to bear fruit .
So, why hasn't he made tarrifs cost reflective?

It's kind of ironic that in one breath you praise tinubu for removing fuel subsidy, which most nigerians opposed, then praise him for keeping power subsides that also were not working, due to 'it's what the people want'

Lack of consistency is not a vote winner.
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by anonimi: 2:12pm On Jun 21
wellmax:
Simple and straightforward. Thanks for sharing.
What is simple and straightforward about this story, which is at variance with what All Promises Cancelled, APC’s Tinubu and Buhari achieved since 2015, like Fashola bragged when Jagaban of Borgu was begging his fellow northerner to make Jonathan a one term president?

This was four years after the master strategist said that Buhari was an expired old soldier.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lba6Uf64Ogc?si=2rTkeRtgwi5hJF8q



pendy79:
Lagos State Governor, Mr. Babatunde Fashola, on Sunday evening boasted that he could provide uninterrupted power supply to Lagos residents between six and eight months.

Fashola spoke at the commissioning of 8.5 megawatts Lekki Independent Power Project (IPP), the fifth of such power projects in the last five years in the state.

The governor said the addition of the Lekki IPP was a testament to the fact that stable power does not require rocket science to achieve in the country.

While challenging power distribution companies in the state, Fashola said, “Let the Eko DISCOs sign a contract with me, giving part of their concessioning to the state government, in about six to eight months, there will be power in all homes in Lagos State,” Fashola said.

He added, “So, let no one say that he has no money to deliver power for the entire country. This is the limit to which the law allows us to do, but we have done this to make a statement that power can be generated. So, when they come with lies that power is impossible, you can tell them that we have power here; we make it possible”.

The project, courtesy of the state government, in partnership with Heritage Bank, is to serve Lagos State Water Corporations in Lekki Phase 1, Oniru, Victoria Island and Ikoyi, as well as over 25km of public lightening in the Lekki axis.

http://dailyindependentnig.com/2015/03/can-provide-stable-power-eight-months-fashola-boasts/

Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by Gboss247(m): 2:12pm On Jun 21
gigabyte13:
Power generation in Nigeria is very very possible, we just have thieves and rogues at the helm of affairs.
Infact we have all it takes to generate 24hours power supply uninterrupted.
I lived in jebba, kwara state some years back, you will be shocked that , Nigeria can have uninterrupted power supply for a full week..
We used to off the fridge because of the freezing rate of the freezer.

Nigeria is so blessed with everything in this world but we have cursed leaders.
Once they attain power
They become cursed.
Nigeria's electricity problem lies in transmission and not generation.
Re: Why Power Supply May Never Improve In Nigeria. by MrSly(m): 2:13pm On Jun 21
nairalanda1:
So recently, Peter Obi made a comment that he was going to improve our power supply by 10000mw, which would take us up to 32000 mw...which should be enough for us to get light 24/7 (subject to the Siemens project working)...and the response was tinubu supporters making fun of Obi as a man without ideas, while Obi supporters praised their man as being wisdom incarnante.

Except that Obi did not tell us how he plans to do it.

Which essentially begs the question, how do we vote for a guy who promises us something, but does not tell us how to do it.

Which leads me back to Tinubu. IN 2023, tinubu said...if you vote me and I do not give you constant power supply, vote me out in 2027.

Naturally tinubu supporters were praising their man as being a tough minded leader, etc, etc....while Obi people are now calling in the receipts. Man has not done as promised so he should be kicked out.


Which leads me to my point.

Tinubu and obi never/have not told Nigerians how they intend to improve power supply.


The truth of the matter is, we have a plan, laid out by the experts, about power supply. A decent , strong plan....cost reflective tarrifs, ending power theft, and rolling out metering.

But neither tinubu nor obi, nor even atiku or any potential candidate would mention that because it does not win votes. (Sowore would probably announce a plan to give 24 hour light a day at N1 per kwh).


Nigerians , regardless of political party, like hearing populist language. If a leader came into office and started doing the things the experts have said we should do, he would be voted out. Or chased out. You will see the Fulani herdsmen marching with the Igbo farmer, the Yoruba trader marching with his Hausa counterpart, and there would be riots.


And the leader would be voted out.

That is why whoever takes office, won't be allowed to improve power because Nigerians think that electricity should be free of charge.

When in reality, it is not possible.

Electricity costs money. If you won;t pay for it in cost reflective tarrif, you will pay for it in generator and inverter monies. That is what Band A taught us.

And on that Band A, the idea of tinubu was not original. India has a similar system, present for decades, that commercial and industrial properties would pay a cost reflective tarrif and the profits would be used to pay for subsidising the poor farmers and rural people

And after doing that, has power supply in India improved? (No.).

Infact India is planning to make everyone pay cost reflective tarrfs in five years time.


SO, if it didn't work in India, how e go work in NIgeria?

The only way we can get free power is to take massive loans totalling nearly 2/3rd of our budgets for the next ten or more years...and while it may give us enough light, it would also put us in heavy debt for it.


In 2025, Prof Barth Nnaji, who is definetly not a Tinubu supporter put it well



SAUCE : LEADERSHIP NEWSPAPER


I have been saying the above for years, but people here abuse me, so I may as well quote the actual expert, who is a qualified engineer, a former ministar of power, and an owner of a GENCO.

And he is not the first or the last to state that this needs to be done. PwC have said it, several experts have been saying it, a BBC report said it, and so forth.

Yet, Nigerians and their candidates choose to believe the fiction of corruption or some evil Western zionist overmind does not want to give us light.

It is easier to believe conspiracy theory fiction

Like NIgerians, like candidates.


Good afternoon.

I expcet to be abused and to be told about other countries that somehow magically give free power(the macs won't add that those countries pay for it with heavy taxes, or heavy debt).
I don't know where you got the assersio that nigerian see energy as a free stuff. We pay heavily for electricity. In fact I pay an average of 35k monthly on electricity. That is for my household only. So how is it free? Please stop giving us misleading topic to support your tinubu covertly. PO said he would improve power and that he would do using the revenue from the sector. Tinubu had increased electricity bill to 10time, yet nothing to show for it. Tinubu can't fix any single thing in nigeria.
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