₦airaland Forum

vanitybutiwanti:
Mr OP, Atiku has issues with funding. Obi cannot and would not provide the kind of Funds Amaechi has pledged for Atikus presidential bid. Amaechi doesn't talk about funds but people do not know that he is amongst the richest corrupt politicians in Nigeria. All his affiliated businesses in oil and gas, banking, real estate, hospitality and retail are doing extremely well and this is besides kickbacks from Chinese loans, NPA racket when he was minister and over bloated contracts awarded for rail projects. At the moment, his kastina to maradi rail project awarded at the tail end of his stint as minister for $1.3b is nearing completion, just imagine his kickback from that project alone.

Burob:
Gringory Obi seems to be the most unintelligent senior politician we have in Nigeria. What he lacks in political intelligence, he overcompensates for with excessive ego and stubborn self-confidence (delusion).

Instead of playing smart politics by stooping to conquer as it were, doing everything necessary to win over President Tinubu & his Oga Abubakar Atiku and his Obidient supporters - even if it means making public and explicit power-sharing commitments (e.g. Obi will be in charge of the economy and so on, I will serve only one term, and I will ensure that his vice presidency becomes a clear stepping stone to the presidency after four years), he chose to carry on with very silly, dismissive arrogance.

Of course that arrogance and lack of strategic negotiation/communication alienated President Tinubu and his agbadorian supporters, and here we are again with a three horse race. Atiku/Obi would have been an iron clad, rigging-proof, unassailable fait accompli. The bottom line would be that Obi would achieve his life long dream of becoming president. Is this not the ultimate goal? Or in which planet is arrogance a political strategy, for a non incumbent for that matter?

Now Obi is running with the virtually useless Andrews Liverpool Salt Kwakwanso. I don't understand the logic. How exactly does he plan to win the election?

He is not the incumbent, so he cannot plausibly rig the elections or have more resources to do vote buying. Neither does he have any governors to help him conjure some magic as was the case in 2023. And of course he has no organic supporters anywhere in Nigeria, just Obidients, not even in the so-called lamba (he is no Obasanjo), so what really is this man up to?

He cannot get 25% in the core political Northern state. Bloc, He cannot get 25% in any Northern belt state (e.g Sokoto , Benue, Kano and Kaduna). He cannot get 25% in Osun state. So what is the election logic for him, other than just an ego driven exercise in futility?

kokoA:
The only time Atiku arguably had a real chance was in 2019. By then, many Nigerians were already frustrated with Buhari’s first tenure. How Atiku still lost that election remains one of those questions only history may fully answer.

HIGHESTPOPORI:
The topic says Atiku but as usual Obi is your nightmare

AMINDA:
Nothing can pacify a man who kept saying "I must be on the ballot" from the get-go. In hindsight, for Atiku to stand a chance, Obi needs to be on the ballot. This is because Tinubu would have gotten sympathy votes from the South, if otherwise. With Obi on the ballot, he will as usual, mop Tinubu on the floor in the South. Meanwhile, the 5.6m Northern votes that came through for Tinubu in 2023 are all but gone. Once APC realises what they are up against, Obi might just get disqualified internally by the NDC. Dickson needs to be kept an eye on. The silence of the APC since Obi decamped to the NDC is very suspect.

AMINDA:
Nothing can pacify a man who kept saying "I must be on the ballot" from the get-go. In hindsight, for Atiku to stand a chance, Obi needs to be on the ballot. This is because Tinubu would have gotten sympathy votes from the South, if otherwise. With Obi on the ballot, he will as usual, mop Tinubu on the floor in the South. Meanwhile, the 5.6m Northern votes that came through for Tinubu in 2023 are all but gone. Once APC realises what they are up against, Obi might just get disqualified internally by the NDC. Dickson needs to be kept an eye on. The silence of the APC since Obi decamped to the NDC is very suspect.

brain54:
How else do people go about Monikas they choose to answer here...?


How do you go about your Monika?

Igbophobia:
If Buhari couldn't win after many tries with his socalled northern votes, Atiku wouldn't either. Not without the votes of SE, SS, and MB. Garrit now? The people that had traditionally voted PDP in the SE and SS won't vote Atiku now. So no hope for him.

Hedonisco:
"Obi got 95% of the votes from his region and that amounted to 6 million". You can imagine this kind of barefaced lie, spewed with disgust and condescension.

Peter Obi scored over 2 million votes from the north, 1.9 million votes from the South East, 1.2 million votes from the South South, and over 800, 000 votes from the South West. And these are severely suppressed votes.

Peter Obi also brutalized both Atiku and Tinubu in Abuja to the extent that neither of them could get up to 25%, in the nation's capital and seat of government.

Yet you have the audacity to claim, like your master Atiku, that the bulk of Obi's votes are from the South East. Desperately trying to reduce him to a South East local champion even with clear empirical evidence to the contrary.

Cut the grass low and the snakes will show. Thank God that the so-called partnership with Atiku did not work. I can't imagine people like you and your kind in Atiku's circle having anything to do with reasonable Nigerians behind Obi who genuinely want the country to succeed.

AMINDA:
Yet, Yar'adua became president after 8 years of Obasanjo/Atiku. This is why I keep saying that the best option for the Southeast is to support Tinubu in 2027 if the goal is to ensure that Atiku does not win. At least, this will ensure that the Southeast becomes V.P. to a Northerner in 2031. Voting Obi despite knowing his chances are slimmer than an anorexic patient will be tantamount to wasting your vote and putting Tinubu in a precarious situation. You may also end up losing the V.P position to the Southsouth. The North does not put all its political eggs in one basket and they do not play the victim card. Heads or tail, the North will not lose out in the power equation.

Igbophobia:
Words on marble.

Aminda, please do not become another soulless Reno because of Atiku. Atiku's arrogance and treachery to Obasanjo and Jonathan is why he hasn't completed his second term since after Obasanjo and Jonathan. At this twilight of his age, he seems never to have learned any lessons - that pride goeth before a fall.

AMINDA:
Should I even respond to this? What's your stake or my business in whether the partnership with Obi and Atiku works out or not? Are you going to be a member of Obi's cabinet if he wins? This is the emotions we speak about. Bottomline is that Obi got 95% of his Southeastern region, yet it wasn't enough make him president. Atiku got barely 50% of the Morthern votes but yet, he got 6.9m votes with a bulk of those numbers coming from the North. The North split its votes four ways (Atiku got 6.7m, Tinubu got 5.6m, Kwankwaso got 1.4m and Obi got 2m) and still managed to determine the winner of the election. That's real leverage and numbers don't lie. If anything, I have always held the view that for Atiku to win, Obi needs to run independently. Unlike in 2023, Obi running in 2027 will be a disadvantage to Tinubu more than it will be to Atiku. Politics is science, not emotions. Listen to Dele Momodu's analysis that he just gave today.

Igbophobia:
Atiku got that, not because he is popular but because PDP was still standing and had elected officials like governors and senators whose supporters voted along party lines. Obi had none of those and still secured more than 6 million votes. This time, Atiku won't make 4 million without active rigging.

AMINDA:
Continue to sabotage your region while playing the shortsighted game. The new goal for the Southeast is ensuring that Atiku never becomes president but even Atiku can live with that. He can at least die peacefully, knowing he has been a one-time Vice president. That's not something any of you can say for an entire region. The Southeast has no pathway to the presidency that does not involve going through the V.P route. This is not a tribal or condescending statement. Politics is science, not emotions and when you play it at the national level, the stakes are higher than just one individual man's ambition.

Igbophobia:
You see, the problem with you guys is that you are shortsighted and yet see yourselves as long-sighted. The same tribalism you're using in destroying the country is what you want Igbos to become. Sabotage your Region politics abi? Igbos want a working country and KNOW Atiku or Tinubu doesn't represent that. You guys either fall in line or destroy the country the way you've been doing. It's just one step at a time.

Igbos don't have the sort of midset you guys have - small-minded bigotry. Your region your region, why? Just because you want a chance to steal for your region, NOT that you want the country to work at all. That's why the country is in a mess.

AMINDA:
Continue to sabotage your region while playing the shortsighted game. The new goal for the Southeast is ensuring that Atiku never becomes president but even Atiku can live with that. He can at least die peacefully, knowing he has been a one-time Vice president. That's not something any of you can say for an entire region. The Southeast has no pathway to the presidency that does not involve going through the V.P route. This is not a tribal or condescending statement. Politics is science, not emotions and when you play it at the national level, the stakes are higher than just one individual man's ambition.

AMINDA:
We've gone back around in circles and arrived at the same cliché. "The Igbos are the only ones who know how to spot a good candidate and Obi is the best candidate among ALL aspirants". It's getting tiring and pathetic. Donald Duke is on the ballot and just like Obi, he has also been a governor for 8 years. Is Obi more competent than he is? Why are the Igbos not championing his presidency? Tinubu boldly declared that "it's my turn" and Northerners voted massively for him in 2023. What makes you think Nigerians won't vote Obi if the Southeast boldly cone out clean and declare that it's their turn? You only need to have invested first for you to be that bold.

P.S: Tinubu supported both Atiku and Ribadu for president but he didn't declare "Emi Lokan" until he supported Buhari and won. Politics is not taught in class.

Igbophobia:
Aminda, answer this question please. Why do your two regions like supporting corrupt people who don't care about the country? Why do you want people who can steal for your regions ONLY? Why do you want Igbos to also grab power to "steal for region?"
Why do you think you can gaslight Ndigbo to support someone we are CONVINCED is not competent just because we want an Igbo to be president?

Don't you people even have shame? Don't you see countries all over the world making progress while Nigeria and Africans are moving in circles because you can't get the basic things such as electing credible leaders right?

I mean this nonsense has been going on for half a century and you guys still believe that nation-building is having the "most corrupt man from my tribe steal for us"

AMINDA:
You only expose your hypocrisy when you go down this route. The Igbos supported Atiku in 2019. How did he suddenly become corrupt now even though he has never held any office between then and now? Perhaps, you did so because your tribesman, Obi was his Vice. Isn't it? Or did you do so because he was competent then?

Igbophobia:
Igbo this, Igbo that. What options did Igbos have in 2019 when two Fulani were the main contestants - one corrupt and the other an Igbo hater? Why won't they support the corrupt Atiku when Obi was on the ticket? Why won't they support Atiku when PDP was their preferred party and Atiku was the flag bearer, albeit a corrupt one?
https://www.politico.com/story/2010/02/report-revisits-jefferson-scandal-032593

AMINDA:
Lol. In other words, the notion that Igbos have always backed the most competent and incorruptible candidate on the ballot is hereby disproved. It has always been about tribal or party affiliation and interest, and there's nothing wrong with that. Case closed.