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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by airmark(m): 11:34pm On Jun 21
raumdeuter:
Abi oh. Is it better if Wahab didn't reply him at all nor reply anyone who asks questions about the success or failings of his duties as commissioner

This is the thread that shows how the conversation started, what is wrong with Wahab response

https://www.nairaland.com/8695288/gbadebo-rhodes-vivour-tokunbo-wahab-clash
It’s an issue of “won o fe ni ilu oun da Orin…” (They don’t want you around and you are starting a song to entertain your haters”. 😁
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 11:41pm On Jun 21
Roland17:
This particular refuse issue has been a recurring theme and a black spot for Sanwolu. This isn’t a case of something went wrong but something has been wrong for a very long time!

Remember the corper that talked about Lagos smelling and how it was politicized? Infact tribalism follow enter because she spoke up. So no, this isn’t a rare occurrence but the norm. It had not been working before now

The problem is Wahab things he is answering GRV, not realizing he is answering millions of Lagosians who have suffered through this over the last 7 years! Sanwolu is t seeking reelection so I am not sure why he felt compelled to politicize this issue.

Wahab should have addressed the issue in general, take ownership and start showing workings. A smart politician or public official should have seen the back and forth with GRV would backfire! All these back of forth isn’t necessary.

Lees talk, more action!
Is that not what he did?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 11:45pm On Jun 21
Roland17:
This particular refuse issue has been a recurring theme and a black spot for Sanwolu. This isn’t a case of something went wrong but something has been wrong for a very long time!

Remember the corper that talked about Lagos smelling and how it was politicized? Infact tribalism follow enter because she spoke up. So no, this isn’t a rare occurrence but the norm. It had not been working before now

The problem is Wahab things he is answering GRV, not realizing he is answering millions of Lagosians who have suffered through this over the last 7 years! Sanwolu is t seeking reelection so I am not sure why he felt compelled to politicize this issue.

Wahab should have addressed the issue in general, take ownership and start showing workings. A smart politician or public official should have seen the back and forth with GRV would backfire! All these back of forth isn’t necessary.

Lees talk, more action!
Did you read the thread I posted and that is exactly what Wahab did okay I will post it again. GRV asked a question as a concerned Lagosian and Tokunbo replied him, what do you think is wrong with Tokunbo replying,, Do you think he shouldnt have replied or you fault the explanation that he gave?


Dear Gbadebo @GRVlagos

A lot of people are genuinely concerned about the waste situation in parts of Lagos, and that concern is understandable. Waste is not something you can talk around. If refuse is sitting on your street, beside your market, close to your bus stop, or inside the drainage near your house, the only thing that matters to you is that it should be removed. And that is fair.

But it may also help to explain the scale of what is being managed, and what is actually being done.

Lagos generates about 13,000 tonnes of waste every day. Not weekly. Every day. In May alone, LAWMA and PSP operators evacuated about 418,500 tonnes of waste across the state, which comes to an average of about 13,200 tonnes daily. That is not a small operation. It involves hundreds of PSP operators, public waste teams, transfer and disposal operations, street sweepers, enforcement teams, customer service staff, drivers, loaders, supervisors and monitoring officers working across a very large and difficult city.

Just to mention, during the 2026 Hajj, Saudi Sanitation Authorities announced that a total of over 472 tons of waste were generated from Mina and Muzdalifah. This is total waste generated by pilgrims all over the world in 5 days.

Still, nobody is pretending that everything is fine everywhere. Some communities have had delays. Some PSP operators have not performed well. Some routes have grown beyond the capacity that was originally assigned to them. In some areas, road access is poor. During the rains, movement into disposal sites can become slower. Trucks break down. Diesel and spare parts are expensive. Payment compliance is also weak in many places, and when people do not pay for waste service, the operators struggle to maintain trucks, pay crews and keep to schedule. These are not excuses but the harsh realities that have to be fixed.

That is why LAWMA has been reviewing weak routes, replacing and sanctioning underperforming operators, increasing monitoring, and deploying evacuation teams to pressure points. As of last month (May), 442 PSP operators were active across Lagos while 27 routes were under review for service improvement. LAWMA also received 474 complaints and service requests that month, which are now part of how the agency is identifying weak spots and following up on operator performance.

There is also a daily blackspot operation that many people do not see unless it is happening near them. LAWMA clears 3,000 black spots every day across 57 routes. These are the road medians, market edges, illegal dumping points, bus stops, setbacks and open spaces where people keep dropping waste outside the normal collection system. Some are cleared in the morning and abused again by night. That is one of the hardest parts of the job.

This is why enforcement has become more serious. In 2025, LAWMA recorded 1,023 incidents of illegal dumping and other waste violations across the state. Out of these, 447 cases were referred for prosecution. The surveillance teams also identified 431 scavengers and reconciled 145 properties with their assigned PSP operators. The data showed that much of the illegal dumping happens between midnight and early morning, and the waste is not only household refuse. It includes construction debris and even hazardous waste in some cases.

So when people say “just clear it,” we agree. It must be cleared. But we also have to stop the same locations from being turned back into dumpsites again and again.

Street sweeping is another big part of the work. Lagos has thousands of sweepers working across hundreds of routes, including highways, medians and major public corridors. This work starts very early, and it is not easy work. Some areas are swept daily, but once people keep littering from vehicles, markets, shops and buses, the same routes look dirty again within hours. That is why the long-term answer cannot be sweeping alone. We need better behaviour, stronger enforcement, more mechanised sweeping on strategic roads, and safer working conditions for the sweepers.

The bigger reform is infrastructure. Lagos cannot continue with the old collect-and-dump model. That is why construction is ongoing for Transfer Loading Stations to replace the old landfill operations at Olusosun in Ojota and Solous III in Igando. These will be supported by Material Recovery Facilities in Ikorodu and Badagry, so waste can be moved out of the centre of the city to modern facilities where it can be sorted, recovered, recycled and repurposed.

The Olusosun system is expected to move about 2,500 tonnes of waste daily to the Ikorodu MRF, while the Solous III side is expected to move about 1,500 tonnes daily to the Badagry recovery facility. The target for this transition is 6 months. Once completed, it should reduce pressure on the old dumpsites, improve the flow of waste evacuation, reduce congestion around disposal points and give Lagos a more serious recovery and recycling platform.

There is also the organic waste side, which is very important because a large part of Lagos waste is food and market waste. The Ikosi Fruit Market Biodigester has now been launched to treat organic waste closer to source and convert it into useful outputs like biogas, electricity and fertiliser. The plan is to replicate that model in other markets that generate high volumes of organic waste, instead of moving everything across the city to landfill.

So yes, the complaints are valid. Some backlogs should not have happened. Some residents have not received the service they deserve. Some operators have disappointed. There is no need to deny any of that.

But the fuller picture is that waste is being evacuated daily, black spots are being cleared daily, operators are being monitored, weak routes are being reviewed, illegal dumping is being prosecuted, street sweeping is ongoing, and new infrastructure is being built to change the system from the ground up.

Government has a duty to keep improving the system. Residents, markets, estates and businesses also have a duty to use the system properly and stop illegal dumping. Both things are true.

Lagos is not where it should be yet. But it is not standing still either. The work now is to clear what has built up, fix the routes that are failing, hold operators accountable, and complete the infrastructure that will move Lagos from dumping to sorting, recovery, recycling, energy and circular economy.

So, for your nomadic self to jump on the Governor’s release for your political agenda without talking solutions speaks to who you really are.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 11:47pm On Jun 21
To the above, GRV replied with

Mr. Wahab,

Impact is felt, not explained in 1,578 words.

Your plastic policy has failed.

Your environmental policy, if one truly exists, has been ineffective.

Your waste management policy has been an unmitigated disaster.

The only area where you have consistently delivered is the demolition of the hard earned properties and livelihoods of ordinary citizens.

Not to mention your Bigotry and Gaslighting.

You have lost the moral authority to remain in office.

You should resign.


Today.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m):
izzou:
Is that not what he did?
He did that With the give and take with GRV?

Like I said earlier, his first response while justifying GRV’s position was sufficient enough and it should have ended there with him.

There is no evidence of work being done. They are still talking! Lagosians still have refuse staring at them! Workings is when your trucks are out and Lagosians start seeing a decrease in this eyesore..

Do I think GRV’s intentions were sincere? No, but, that is the job of the opposition in governance. This isn’t the first time Wahab is getting entangled with GRV. Wahab should be smarter, know when and how much to engage..
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 11:55pm On Jun 21
raumdeuter:
To the above, GRV replied with

Mr. Wahab,

Impact is felt, not explained in 1,578 words.

Your plastic policy has failed.

Your environmental policy, if one truly exists, has been ineffective.

Your waste management policy has been an unmitigated disaster.

The only area where you have consistently delivered is the demolition of the hard earned properties and livelihoods of ordinary citizens.

Not to mention your Bigotry and Gaslighting.

You have lost the moral authority to remain in office.

You should resign.


Today.
Once again Dayo, if you read my responses, you’d see I acknowledged his first response was perfect, despite being littered with explanations and excuses. I have no issues with his original response.

His subsequent responses were unnecessary, especially, if nothing has changed on ground. Worsestill, it is exchanged with someone who is a member of the opposition.

The Lagos State government has no leg to stand on here. We all know GRV’s intentions may not be pure but they are facts! Facts that Lagosians are living with. Facts that have been recurring through this administration.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 11:56pm On Jun 21
raumdeuter:
To the above, GRV replied with

Mr. Wahab,

Impact is felt, not explained in 1,578 words.

Your plastic policy has failed.

Your environmental policy, if one truly exists, has been ineffective.

Your waste management policy has been an unmitigated disaster.

The only area where you have consistently delivered is the demolition of the hard earned properties and livelihoods of ordinary citizens.

Not to mention your Bigotry and Gaslighting.

You have lost the moral authority to remain in office.

You should resign.


Today.
A smarter public administrator will not respond to this.. A smarter administrator has done his job with the original response. He should know when stuff is going to degenerate into public shaming/ name calling..

Move on, you are the one that needs to show working, not GRV!
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by CrystalTiger(m): 11:56pm On Jun 21
raumdeuter:
Is GRV not Chinedu? or what is wrong in calling him his name?
https://x.com/i/status/2068433201882644670

No be Una again? You wn gaslight people in 2026?

Decided to follow up the argument on X and he's already referred to GRV as Chinedu as I predicted attaching his opinions on Biafra.. Simple conversation on cleanliness of Lagos, Chinedu dn enter..
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 12:00am On Jun 22
CrystalTiger:
https://x.com/i/status/2068433201882644670

No be Una again? You wn gaslight people in 2026?

Decided to follow up the argument on X and he's already referred to GRV as Chinedu as I predicted attaching his opinions on Biafra.. Simple conversation on cleanliness of Lagos, Chinedu dn enter..
Exactly my point. Wahab should have just moved on from after the first round of Shalaye but he decided to engage in give and take.

Wahab lost his composure after a member of the opposition asked him to resign! Like what did you expect? A member of the opposition to sweet talk you on an obvious failure that has bedeviled your administration?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A40(m): 12:02am On Jun 22
CrystalTiger:
Before close of work tomorrow, e go call GRV Chinedu.. Just watch out..
He already did that yesterday
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by CrystalTiger(m): 12:12am On Jun 22
A40:
He already did that yesterday
I just decided to follow up the argument on X because of the discourse here and saw it..

Conversation started with Dear Gbadebo and when it looked like he was losing, it quickly became Dear Chinedu..

APC miscreants from top to bottom are very predictable..
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A40(m): 12:28am On Jun 22
CrystalTiger:
I just decided to follow up the argument on X because of the discourse here and saw it..

Conversation started with Dear Gbadebo and when it looked like he was losing, it quickly became Dear Chinedu..

APC miscreants from top to bottom are very predictable..
They pick the most razz among them and give posts. It's really crazy the level of mediocrity APC has foisted upon all of Nigeria
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by CrystalTiger(m): 12:44am On Jun 22
Roland17:
Exactly my point. Wahab should have just moved on from after the first round of Shalaye but he decided to engage in give and take.

Wahab lost his composure after a member of the opposition asked him to resign! Like what did you expect? A member of the opposition to sweet talk you on an obvious failure that has bedeviled your administration?
https://x.com/i/status/2067557654168318000

His boss( BSO) has already tweeted about the shortcomings of the waste management..So why engage in banger boy matters online instead of going to work immediately..
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 3:30am On Jun 22
CrystalTiger:
https://x.com/i/status/2068433201882644670

No be Una again? You wn gaslight people in 2026?

Decided to follow up the argument on X and he's already referred to GRV as Chinedu as I predicted attaching his opinions on Biafra.. Simple conversation on cleanliness of Lagos, Chinedu dn enter..
Wait.. Is Chinedu not GRV official name? If Chinedu enter then GRV should take it up and off his birth certificate or official records

His opinions on Biafra are what he made, so did they lie on him or what
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 3:44am On Jun 22
Roland17:
A smarter public administrator will not respond to this.. A smarter administrator has done his job with the original response. He should know when stuff is going to degenerate into public shaming/ name calling..

Move on, you are the one that needs to show working, not GRV!
When GRV read Wahab response and the best he could come up with his namecalling him a bigot that shows that GRV is empty and just trying to pick a fight. What Tokunbo showed him was his own recorded history of bigotry.

When you accuse someone of a thing ensure you don't have documented history of the same
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:35am On Jun 22
Roland17:
This particular refuse issue has been a recurring theme and a black spot for Sanwolu. This isn’t a case of something went wrong but something has been wrong for a very long time!

Remember the corper that talked about Lagos smelling and how it was politicized? Infact tribalism follow enter because she spoke up. So no, this isn’t a rare occurrence but the norm. It had not been working before now


The problem is Wahab things he is answering GRV, not realizing he is answering millions of Lagosians who have suffered through this over the last 7 years! Sanwolu is t seeking reelection so I am not sure why he felt compelled to politicize this issue.
I just tire! Anybody reading Tokubo's litany of excuses would think what we are talking about here is a minor issue that started May 2026 being blown out of proportion by members of the opposition.

How can a responsible government be fully aware and comfortable that people's waste have not been evacuated for months by the private operators the government imposed on them without the government coming up with immediate action plan to solve the issue since? How?

If you take a drive through private residential areas and estates you will literally see drums overflowing with refuse in front of people's houses beacuse the PSP operators have not been coming to collect refuse. The same government made a law against people burning their waste and also prohibited disposing waste through wheelbarrow pushers.

Now instead of finding ways to show workings, tbey are setting up task force to go about arresting those who decide to dump their refuse in public since their private space is already overflowing with waste. In matter of days now they will arrest some of them, post their videos online and those who want to run tribal or political agenda with the videos Will run with it as if that will solve any problem.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 6:04am On Jun 22
raumdeuter:
When GRV read Wahab response and the best he could come up with his namecalling him a bigot that shows that GRV is empty and just trying to pick a fight. What Tokunbo showed him was his own recorded history of bigotry.

When you accuse someone of a thing ensure you don't have documented history of the same
Wahab is the one in government, not GRV. Being a government official/ spokesperson comes with a lot of responsibility. If you know he is trying to pick a fight, why indulge him? I don't get it. Like I said, Wahab and the Lagos State Government don't have a leg to stand on this one. This is an unnecessary distraction that doesn't solve the issue Lagosians are grappling with.

I don't think this is Wahab and GRV's first tango. They have a history and something about GRV triggers Wahab. He started well but lost his composure. I mean, how did we go from "Dear Gbadebo @GRVlagos" to "Dear Chinedu @GRVlagos"? Isn't it obvious GRV got to him? They just need to focus on the issue and start addressing it.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 6:46am On Jun 22
Roland17:
Wahab is the one in government, not GRV. Being a government official/ spokesperson comes with a lot of responsibility. If you know he is trying to pick a fight, why indulge him? I don't get it. Like I said, Wahab and the Lagos State Government don't have a leg to stand on this one. This is an unnecessary distraction that doesn't solve the issue Lagosians are grappling with.

I don't think this is Wahab and GRV's first tango. They have a history and something about GRV triggers Wahab. He started well but lost his composure. I mean, how did we go from "Dear Gbadebo @GRVlagos" to "Dear Chinedu @GRVlagos"? Isn't it obvious GRV got to him? They just need to focus on the issue and start addressing it.
So you see no issues with the man who began by calling the other a "Bigot" and a "Gaslighter"?

I'm just asking oh.

Your issue with Wahab is that he lost his composure with his second response, but you are not looking at how GRV insulted him.

I am not defending Wahab and his explanations, but GRV obviously wanted to find trouble there. What has Bigotry and Gaslighting got to do with that response?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 6:49am On Jun 22
BlueRayDick:
The screenshot below is actually what fuelled my anger. They are talking about zero tolerance to dumping of refuse on roads, but they fail to collect refuse from people's homes despite paying for the service.

Who are they fooling?
I think this whole stuff is a cycle

When the government fails to provide a timely, structured way for disposing waste, people will find it for themselves. That's why we have a heap of waste on our roads

They should first create that structure, and then the Waste Police comes into play.

In a nutshell, Sanwo-Olu don tire
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 7:25am On Jun 22
I have read somewhere that the issue is diesel costs. I assume that the psps have a contract with Lasg and the current rate for diesel are no longer feasible for their business

As an example, I used to order water in a tanker once a week. Five years ago it was 1500 per trip. Today I think it is 12 to 15k. A large part of that cost is diesel.

So the same may be happening here. Especially with Iran war raising energy costs

Beginning of this year I was buying 5kg or gas for 5k. Now it is 9 to 10k
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:11am On Jun 22
izzou:
I think this whole stuff is a cycle

When the government fails to provide a timely, structured way for disposing waste, people will find it for themselves. That's why we have a heap of waste on our roads

They should first create that structure, and then the Waste Police comes into play.

In a nutshell, Sanwo-Olu don tire
Exactly! Why not address the root cause of the matter which is evacuation of waste from people's homes , then proceed with the whole waste police arrangement ?

If you don't collect people's waste despite paying the government appointed collectors, how do expect people to manage their waste disposal? Don't they know people will dump it in water ways, gutters and other public places either when it is raining or in the dead of the night?

I looked through Wahab's epistles, and I didn't see where he talked about how the refuse will be collected from people's homes within a specified time frame to solve the problem. All I see was him rambling and posturing like he had everything under control when in fact he doesn't.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:16am On Jun 22
GloriousGbola:
I have read somewhere that the issue is diesel costs. I assume that the psps have a contract with Lasg and the current rate for diesel are no longer feasible for their business

As an example, I used to order water in a tanker once a week. Five years ago it was 1500 per trip. Today I think it is 12 to 15k. A large part of that cost is diesel.

So the same may be happening here. Especially with Iran war raising energy costs

Beginning of this year I was buying 5kg or gas for 5k. Now it is 9 to 10k
I don't know about ur area, but in my area PSP in conjunction with LAWMA have progressively been increasing the waste disposal bill we pay. At least recently I needed utility bill to update KYC with my Bank and I saw the difference in what we were paying in the past to the current payment when I collected the LAWMA bill from a neighbor who handles the collection/payment.

We pay LAWMA bill months ahead, there's absolutely no justification for the nonsense one is experiencing from these operators and the ministry of environment that has failed to hold them accountable.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DeepSight(m): 8:28am On Jun 22
GloriousGbola:
I have read somewhere that the issue is diesel costs. I assume that the psps have a contract with Lasg and the current rate for diesel are no longer feasible for their business

As an example, I used to order water in a tanker once a week. Five years ago it was 1500 per trip. Today I think it is 12 to 15k. A large part of that cost is diesel.

So the same may be happening here. Especially with Iran war raising energy costs

Beginning of this year I was buying 5kg or gas for 5k. Now it is 9 to 10k
Such radical increases in prices are intolerable for any economy and barring the reason of war in the middle east, and what is thereby unavoidable, must be avoided by any sensible people-centric government.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by CrystalTiger(m): 8:51am On Jun 22
This Trump dey troublesome..Why not have the decency to allow the British PM make the announcement at his own time..

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:21am On Jun 22
This Imam of Ogbomoso is a very dangerous Jihadist

/video/1?s=46
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:28am On Jun 22
This is the situation of waste disposal in most parts of Lagos as we speak this morning.

Make Tokunbo Wahab dey there dey call GRV any of his birth names as if it changes the fact that hid ministry is currently failing woefully. Smh.

/video/1?s=46
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 9:53am On Jun 22
BlueRayDick:
This Imam of Ogbomoso is a very dangerous Jihadist
With every passing day, the reality of Sharia coming into play in Kwara and Oyo becomes clearer.

But to be fair, these Jihadists (Not really Muslims) never hid their agenda in 2023. It's just that to some gullible Nigerians, they couldn't see it.

I am not surprised by his comments.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:58am On Jun 22
izzou:
With every passing day, the reality of Sharia coming into play in Kwara and Oyo becomes clearer.

But to be fair, these Jihadists (Not really Muslims) never hid their agenda in 2023. It's just that to some gullible Nigerians, they couldn't see it.

I am not surprised by his comments.
Of a truth, they never did. One is just wondering why they still keep pushing the religious agenda even when the Muslim-Muslim ticket won. Do they want to set fire to the entire region or what exactly ?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:26am On Jun 22
BlueRayDick:
Of a truth, they never did. One is just wondering why they still keep pushing the religious agenda even when the Muslim-Muslim ticket won. Do they want to set fire to the entire region or what exactly ?
Who knows what the agenda is?
Who really knows?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 10:40am On Jun 22
BlueRayDick:
This Imam of Ogbomoso is a very dangerous Jihadist

/video/1?s=46
Shiekh lambastic grin grin grin grin grin
Man go chow na
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:56am On Jun 22
Wahab who is currently in London claims they have cleared Isheri-Idimu inwards egbeda of all refuse literring the axis.

Same yesterday someone decided to fact check him in real time by posting time stamp video of the same corridor with waste littering the road median



Most people would want to argue that the waste was most likely cleared as Wahab claimed but was replaced by the people who want to "spoil his work".

The truth is all of these points to current failure of the waste collection/disposal arrangement. The waste collectors have failed to go to people's homes to collect their waste for months now. So some of the people resort to placing their refuse in public places to force the hand of Wahab and his boys to show their failure in broad daylight.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:58am On Jun 22
iamoyindamola:
Shiekh lambastic grin grin grin grin grin
Man go chow na
But he can chop too without heating us religious tension na.
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